Howie Carr Show 8-14-2007 Hour Four

" And now there's time. Forma colleagues cars show. Since President Bush think without the man they call it rained about all those great ideas like dividing the country over Iraq and leaving New Orleans to drop into the safe. A country without Karl Rove calling the shots. Let's hear for the republic lord help those who -- it goes it goes into every day with such majesty was almost regal today they like you tonight and -- guy and and he says he's going to take care it is. Bump the most expensive car on our little hot olive orange shop a role."

" All of the guys that really inspired when the school which is and elected Bloomberg. Very -- believe the message in fact."

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" Welcome this is Saudi Nelson filling in -- rally car as the man said the numbers 87746 4322 that's the toll free number Christians and politics. To marched up and doing some -- through the moves up we had has an important point -- being under the real politics of it. -- hopscotching around. Taliban freed a couple of South Korean hostages remember they kidnapped 23 they've murdered two. They released two women because they said the women were -- that -- 19 that there are holding this was a Christian mission mission to Afghanistan. And the reason their holding them is because they want some of their. Their compatriots some other terrorist -- released from prison being held by Afghan authorities. What's the moral of the story moral of the story is that if you arrest terrorists and put them in prison you. Are going to motivate more terrorism. So he should at capital punishment the terror should be executed terrorism should be capital offense. And the execution to be done quickly and national. With regard to the politics of the weekend. We -- Iowa 14000 people voted in the straw poll in Iowa. You know they have to pay 35 dollars to go and vote that usually covered by the candidate thought about buying votes. That's why the straw poll is not necessarily any real indicator of what's going on 9000 fewer people vote in Iowa this Sunday then did in the equivalent Sunday on the weekend 1999. The last time this thing was an open process for Republicans. The only thing that is important about Iowa the Iowa straw poll is it gets all -- tension. And I'm I'm not really complaining about that -- part of the process and that's why Mitt Romney was smart spend a ton of money. And ended up with the most votes. Got 32% of the vote and that's running strategy run me is clearly doing well in New Hampshire. If he does well Iowa and does well in New Hampshire and he's got and -- for German money. That means she's going to be a moral force and that's the strategy that's certainly one legitimate strategy to get the nomination literally forced the other people out. As it is Tommy Thompson has dropped out of the race. And huckabee governor huckabee and did well finishing second and apparently was griping about whether or not. The the vote counts right should we got a call I guess from congressman tancredo also wondered about he finished what third or fourth Europe and they were bunched at -- here. He -- she finished fourth with year old second third fourth were pretty close. So we now move on but everybody was talking about Iowa that propelled Mitt Romney's name into the forefront. Interesting sidebar by the way on this Mitt Romney's name also surfaced in a memo I guess in 1994. We're clean knees were discussing a trip to Boston and then First Lady Hillary Clinton was going to appear to fund raising event. For Senator Kerry that's when Ronnie was running against Canada. The memo reads quote Romney a millionaire business consultant with no political experience is a Mormon. His religion is a delicate issue which Kennedy himself has not raised but other Democrats now. On quote. This in the context by the way that whole bunch of the records of Hillary Clinton when she was First Lady. Are locked up they're not accessible to the public disarming like two million pages of material that are not being made available. Now remember Hillary Clinton when she was in the White House. What's the matter of social calendar and going to -- rose gardens and ribbon cuttings. She was very much involved in the health care program -- for the clintons try to -- on the country -- to sell the American people a terrible program. And we should have a right to know what Hillary Clinton was saying back then before she was candidate for president. So far they've been hiding behind the staff has to go through -- and they have to be careful about confidentiality. In our whole bunch of freedom of information petitions being filed. But the material remains secluded away. Hillary Clinton's diaries telephone -- planned schedule memos Shapiro. You know we have we have a right to know this if you want to be president what she was thinking about when she was talking about health care back then. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama you remember him. Under fire Tuesday for saying that US troops in Afghanistan are quote just it are raiding villages and killing civilians on quote. Nice nice. Yeah I wonder if there's a question here about experience RL or -- he's a bright guy does need any experience it's like -- 40s for an -- We've got to get the job done there she is quoting him and that requires -- to have enough troops other weren't just not. We're not just -- raiding villages and killing civilians. Which is causing enormous pressure over there. On -- Mitt Romney took issue with that this is troubling on many levels spokesman who were on the campaign said. Emblematic of Obama's lack of experience. And yes indeed it is. Just three weeks you are remember Obama promise if he were elected president he. Would meet without preconditions with the leaders of Iran Syria Venezuela Cuba and North Korea. Hillary Clinton said that that was irresponsible and 90 because it could be used for propaganda purposes. Eight days later Obama said that is present might send troops into Pakistan to fight terrorist not targeted. By the Pakistan president. Quote if we have actionable intelligence about high value terrorist targets and president musharraf won't act we will on quote. Well I got criticized for not being overly hawkish -- said the next day. Quote I think could be a profound mistake for us to use nuclear weapons in any circumstance in any circumstance unquote. Involving civilians he added let me scratch that there's been no discussion of nuclear weapons that's not on the table. -- jumped in on the island through I don't believe that any president should make any blanket statement. With respect to the use or non use of nuclear weapons quote that from Hillary Clinton let's -- rationalized that. You don't take options off the table. Unfortunately for Hillary Clinton. -- made a statement about Iran last year where she -- quote I would certainly take nuclear weapons and weapons off the table on quote we just can't wait for the Democrats to be in power they're going to -- the country really well. Yes well at least Mitt Romney did. Respond to that -- this just this is emblematic of somebody who has does not have the experience well maybe. -- that a little bit the danger in politics is when you plain pure stereotype. So when bush commits a gap with the language people focus on it because it plays into the stereotype that he's in articulate. When Gerald Ford which stumble. It played into the stereotype of him falling down stairs. If John Kerry were to make a they remark in and stumble over the language nobody would pay attention to it because John Kerry does not is not perceived as having a problem with the language. The problem here with Obama. Is one of the eruption on him. Is that he is inexperience so when he says something that couples and to that concern. It gets elevated and talked about in the news it becomes a news story. Less so with Hillary Clinton Nolo -- does is a few more times where she ends up with he reversal of herself. It'll become part of the problem as it is with -- As it is -- Giuliani. Both of whom have taken positions on important issues on one side and then later changed their position. Shelf for example now Giuliani is vowing to stop illegal immigrants. He says quote we can end illegal immigration I promise you we -- illegal immigration. -- abolition of the when he was in New York. He instructed city workers not to provide information to the federal government that would allow them to enforcing anti immigration laws. And he was softer on illegal immigration back when he was mayor and so now he's scrambling to make a change. Big of John Kerry speaking -- talking about Carl rose resignation. Which is an an important story in in the country because rove was a major adviser. This is Kerry speaking now it's a tragic that in the administration promised to unite Americans has instead left us more divided than ever before. Without doubt -- architect of that political strategy was Karl Rove who approved the politics of division. May win some elections but cannot govern America. You know I'm tired of hearing about people bombing does this all the time talking about uniting the country. -- works the country isn't united when you talk about controversial issues the country is divided. Now you may want to govern the country by -- yourself -- is the one that should prevail. But it is not a matter of uniting the country the country's not going to be united over the Iraq war. Nor over abortion or capitol punishment or illegal immigration. She -- give these people stand up and say I want to unite the country -- you're saying I want their way to do it my way. That's not uniting the country. -- an existing sidebar issue that I just want to throw in and then we go back to the politics of failure your thoughts on the politics are -- are welcome. We should do little more with Karl Rove because it's be he was and still is an important figure. But as a sidebar story here is my -- falls on it. Homelessness in Chicago. There was talk about how with a -- decide take a look at the shelves of big city right. God knows what third largest city in the country after New York and Los Angeles. So the two months ago the Chicago sun times reported at city hall was conducting searches of people living on downtown streets. With a -- toward getting them permanent housing and support services as needed. Now they give 15 week foot pole as they went around -- to try to -- How many people in the city of Chicago would you -- Homeless that is to say sleeping out in the street downtown. Well the grand total was 24 and I kid you not not 2444. And the acting housing commissioner. Made an understatement the public perception is that should've been -- higher number -- we couldn't find it and quote. I think it's remarkable of course some people. The a coalition for the homeless etc are outraged they're outraged because of course if they really are that few people who are homeless. Then they're not going to get as much funding for. Chicago is doing pretty well sidebar -- the digression out of Karl wrote. Remarkable achievements in terms of electoral politics George Bush elected twice to the governorship in. In Texas twice to the presidency. Interesting that his fall he faltered on the strategic initiatives he started in this last term. Social Security reform immigration reform. He was the engineer of the tax cuts threaten to talk about making them permanent. I find it interesting news demonized by the Democrats having mainly because he was successful. But Social Security reform where he most moving toward privatization and he may even immigration reform. For all. That is the criticism of the bill that went down to defeat recently supported by the president which involve both securing the borders and some kind of amnesty. I predict that history will some day. Move in that direction on both of those issues she may have been a little ahead of his time Social Security needs some kind of reform an immigration. I know other people were polarized. But the fact is a majority of the American people do support some kind of of dealing with the people war over already here. And of course people do support a should cure border which we have not been we have not been attentive. Your thoughts are welcome 8774694322 is the phone number. This is on the Nelson filling in for how -- turning our attention out politics. And a broadly construed all away from the Iowa. I'll pre primary caucus is a straw poll as it was called. To Hillary Clinton to Karl Rove to John Kerry here's your opportunity to weigh him. And if you blow want to make at a local call instead of a a toll free call 6172666860 it is -- them. It's interesting in this long political season as early as the campaign started we don't know all the candidates are in the good Fred Thompson. We don't know peace in the he's going to be in the in the political campaign or not maybe it's gotten too late for him to be there. His time may have come and gone. Nonetheless as we move toward these interesting political theater issues. It's it becomes fun for the political social bonds and even those were just on the side and stroke as go to the phones go -- good afternoon rush."

" That's been an army -- well there's no question history -- brilliant man. And a note that the president throw a lot of rock --"

" Yeah outright fears a break he's a great political analyst and strategist and you know I guess in a way. If your highest accolade when your -- enemies demonize you when they villain -- and they want a meal make you the target. That's that's the ultimate compliment I suppose."

" It is a special look at in the media that. Biggest target as art form about on the plane made an idea."

" That's right a gut tell you something if you had US George Bush and George Bush were probably has some virtues to be said for him but as a candidate. He's not the best in the world. And if you had been told in 1993 hey we're going to take this guy to be governor of Texas for two terms and then to the presidency. You're -- is gonna take a miracle worker right. -- and that's what Colorado did. Tell it it shows you that you know -- them -- until the ancient question now is. What is he going to do now that he stepped away from the the center of the vortex of of politics thanks for the call. And each it's clear of course that for a time being you'll probably go often make speeches and write books. But I wonder if you can stay away from the 2008 campaign whether you want to. Because in reality. A mind like his can be very effective and one of the things he did not achieve that he wanted to achieve was the establishment of an enduring Republican majority. Remember the Republican Party actually gains --"

" money Nelson this is how -- What about this is -- Nelson filling in for -- week phone number. Like usually if you will toll free 8774694322 that we're talking politics if people want to do that. Well broadly construed all the stuff that's been going on over the weekend. Karl Rove resignation and and more gas by Obama. So join in this good time have you have you splash or in the water you're as good as the pundits is why nobody can predict -- results of elections. Nobody -- any better than that kind street we -- afternoon -- you're next on the program."

" I have AO RX listened I I happen that's the adults CI a democratic debate. I was our house was bought for our people and one of them happens Arnold that would watch normally. So we watched it and and I was engaged. And how impressive that's percentage -- that's that's the biggest and -- the biggest -- Is point to impressive and what it would solve its bad is that the that understood sit there okay what if they want Obama Clinton. I mean it was like what -- they have. I just can't get all the other media although I want to talk about -- Obama and Clinton and maybe a little Edwards. In every -- that the debate -- suspect we're not seeing could senate while he's. I mean it as far as the Democrats -- against the war that he voted against it is events of Eric the Patriot Act. He's got some really good players ever helped ask them without the group insurance companies stick all the money. And they don't even talk Abbas."

" not only that -- two things shippers -- Dennis commission that you spot left I mean even some extent the movement loony but it. But your point is a different one and then Lebanon where it. Because it erupted demonstrations you know. Not all of that what happened. As -- changed it again when it comes to town as posse sleep on our studio and drink water and strange people. Are not well the -- but the other thing in the."

" Point -- making an interest -- chemicals Kucinich is is far left in terms of point of view. But the point -- making is that when you are not in the top tier is very hard to be taken seriously. And that this whole thing on the Republican side you take it people look at the people who are considered to be though. The second tear us at work. And they just don't get the kind of attention I think Duncan hunter hunter for example says. From some really. Compelling films about foreign policy but each is very hard to breaking into that perception of being a contender."

" They're all part about it all and boat -- in most money as if with a -- race is that it's an important issues but you know I wouldn't say -- followed up. I universal health care is not bat file that it's it's pretty mainstream getting out Iraq war. Is not file let it's pretty mainstream and are I think that well private look. I think we're getting 1000 applies -- all these people I don't know I'm that's missing in the file that 37 movie the reporter packet about."

" Listen there's a characterization of the weapons -- usually -- point. Now that -- submit including. Well let him in his -- she's coming in here it's jumping in with that he sleeps in the but extreme change in Africa are. Oh over the years there's is Christian has taken very long position that there are two different issues one is politics and one is -- there's little bit strange. And -- But that's okay and if you applause from the Alcee L. -- grounds war supporting candidate that's functions here the it's the most applause. From the AFL CIO is a guy probably want to support reached. --"

" that there are concerned about a different laws are about two. Start at about just what you are doing out dismissing him without discussing the merits of its -- He's -- I'll let. What the -- does all the aren't yeah I'm Alice the population is supposed to. Able it would elegantly set that you know if if immediate people who have -- might. I have -- I'll just say you people -- it again about."

" That is the personality. And strangeness -- something you do vote for president. Somebody who's camping on the street when they're running for campaign to be president in the house that's part of which. No matter what his views and to expect that."

" Our objective well you're saying you don't like it. But whatever you -- well -- not only his views in the -- Philly that's right. Because character and behavior and image all important in the leader of the free world. And that was -- Eric -- yeah."

" And -- in -- crucial inches case both -- issue I have philosophical disagreements with him but he aren't than any he's been out there along time. People -- had a chance to find out who Dennis Kucinich is he's not a newcomer to politics you're -- as well take it with regard to. -- how the media handles. The of the campaign to any of nine candidates out there. In -- chart 2% the points of view on the other hand the media attention -- in the media tend to be lazy right the focus too much on the horse race aspect animal raising money. And not enough on the particulars of the people's platform I'm not sure that the minister since he's going to rise is no cream rises to the top. Percentages in that category but I'm glad you like him. And if you like someday we'll do a careful analysis. Of when he's not on sleeping on the on the floor of what his politics thanks for the call."

" And by the way happy points out and I think it's area in particular discussion. And Howard dean's behaviors were ruined his campaign he was a front runner until he lit up that streak in the and that was the end of his campaign. Effectively."

" Was she good point -- happening in sandy will say addition Howard dean's defense and who's dying in -- are surprisingly who got it right that scream wise and missed misconstrued by the media. If you took it in the context of where he was he was in a roomful of supporters he just lost Iowa. And they were saying okay we're gonna go on anyway and everybody was applauding and cheering and so he went yeah I'll like gotten in effect that 88 Iran Iraq. The reason it got me is played he's because he had a microphone on and the way the story got played is they took the soundtrack just from his microphone. Virtually screaming out all the rest of the people in the room shorts I would like is scream out of context."

" Necessarily true we played a whole thing we've itself before and after it and it was just -- bizarre. Contacts if you I don't know what -- was played on the on this program when it comes down to my my dad was an area was oh Kennedy campaign. Operative cane for Bobby Kennedy and the reason we're in the thinks is that there are very successful campaigns. Was that they one of their -- was never wear a funny. Meaning don't ever make yourself look like a fool under any circumstances and if Howard dean had followed that you were funny. That's that's essentially what it was making himself look like a -- was wearing -- funny."

" knew that if you have the scream in the context of the audience as I've heard that tape he does not sound out of context it was just to sort of dealing with within. The the overall atmosphere eight cheering crowd however tactic and it's it's just it's always -- that's a problem that mr. 87746 43222 politics inspires debate even among people who were used to lift it next to rich afternoon rich."

" I'll -- got. A good. Eddie out or it Miguel could Benedict was running now wait Baghdad did -- want to put our it department at the bad and replace it was a department of peace or something like that."

" It sounds like something he would do well you know I I must confess that I read about -- long enough ago and found that he could be dismissed he was just you know cultural left wing in a little bit kooky in terms of his politics to say nothing of you know whether he sleeps on the floor or whatever. Sell you know he's just not I don't know why these people are perennial candidate she's not going anywhere. Dennis Kucinich is not somebody who's got a political future at the White House level. --"

" I got a -- question about car world how he -- fighting it. Actually got it does he have to work or any retire."

" I've -- I don't know his personal financial status. I'm sure he was making good money along the way but I doubt whether he's a multi millionaire the supposition is that that's why is leaving -- that it -- 18 months -- inflation opposite title implies that he can make some money now well I don't know but it -- influential or you know he'll he will he's speaking fees will be quite substantial and he will be able to write a book. And for most of us. It's it's not a matter of do we have enough money we always wants more money you know I've never even billionaires continued to 21 augment their. Their personal coffers I have no idea luck I don't know Karl Rove and it's easy enough to him. Impugn his motives. If you don't like him I just don't know you have to take at face value what he's going to do but I don't always personal financial status."

" Well I wonder what got you got a guy elected president what do you do not court I don't like Neil Armstrong -- first oh what do you do you spell afterward."

" Well -- coming life does go on and it's I suppose you know they are the people who achieve success in -- and then decide what you gonna do with the rest of your life. It may be -- to point out Hillary Clinton. Yeah I would hate to point two a be happier if there -- senator Carl rove that the senator Hillary Clinton. I don't know what he's going to do a lecture he does I think the first email -- do just unwind and step away from. The the -- world and the tension that must accord every day life when you're in that position in the white Josh. -- we shall see. Thanks for the call 8774694322 we take another call before we did okay we'll go next -- and good afternoon --"

" Yes hello all my main point is that -- happily conservatives at this point should be more concerned. Where the Republican Party they're not the Democrats and their political correctness -- Republican Party had been expected by this political correctness. To a great degree as well I mean you have this spectacle god like Trent Lott supporting. The fairness doctrine which it's not a Nazi Germany Bush Administration would -- you know. -- support for illegal aliens come in here exploiting our country they turned their back on soldiers in Iraq who have done their jobs. I mean they they very. Agree with that Democrats on the clay -- like underwear over -- heads of these prisoners I was abuse did so not just things like that I really don't that they didn't they represent. A true conservative base anymore."

" Well you know in my part of -- saying sure doesn't apply to all Republicans there's division among the -- I think you have -- point. That look at that the president himself has been not nearly as as careful -- some of us would've -- in terms of a budget expenditures she used. He has been as as tight in with a -- as we -- like there thinking it would have been better shirt and he focused on the building of the pension terms of illegal immigrants. Is Social Security initiative which I think was well intentioned well directed that didn't go anywhere -- You know the Republican Party is not monolithic any more than the Democrat party so I mean look at you get Joe Lieberman on one side even Bill Clinton is more moderate than some of the liberals in the in the Democratic Party we have two parties. That dominate the country they are by their nature they have to be umbrella organization."

" It is and I I believe -- molding them calling it one more relaxed. Maybe that is basically going about the same agenda just you know there are different years at all. I mean that all lawless party people do not happen nationalist concern. There's economy independent. It -- they've they've sort of stop trying to I I don't see much difference between the two anymore I honestly don't."

" Well they're actually there are some differences that we do take that that's why there's a presidential campaign and you look at the differences. Among the candidates and between the parties you'll find substantial differences. The leader Republicans are much more concerned about. About -- about having stronger America and protecting against terrorism and the Democrats are more concerned about having you know national health care socialized medicine. And and worrying about whether people's rights are going to be compromised by by a terrorist activity."

" Sorry I honestly believe the Republican Party. What station in which I would voice support that they didn't they are actually were concerned. But the protection for America they were taken more stronger in the media actions. I mean like on September 12 2001 they -- cut the border problem rectified. Within 72 hours with the National Guard down that we need to do what I think some -- lotion are actually more simplistic but people want to admit. We just don't have the fortitude to do these majors and that that part because the potential political."

" I don't know well IE you agree with you that there are supposed to much political correctness I'm holding on 912 are concerned with the southern border. But thanks for the call money -- this is valley car program. How about this is Bobbie Nelson billion valley college will be back tomorrow. Our phone numbers 8774694322. We're talking politics and they get -- other things to me remainder of the program let's go to the telephone line we go next to -- good afternoon Tim."

" Yes I'd. Speak with you one thing I know that oh the talks and nothing had been -- about what the -- that movement will be in -- should be in the dollar. There's a party going -- In the Wall Street in politics. Get away and nobody gonna take away the punch if they do go up to. -- for spot. You --"

" I think -- might improve ephedrine the -- behavior they gave me some gin and vodka."

" Don't increase the rate in battle decrease the dollar instruments it will next time don't think they should not. It it like the boy now there's too many people living thing you'd say I am a hard"

" off the -- the -- the in any event -- well you know you and I guess -- a different point of view. I have appreciate the thought I haven't I think that the Federal Reserve board. Is meddling will be better off without the -- interest rates float Federal Reserve board comes in their messes things up and they frequently don't get it right. Every once in awhile infusion of money into the system it's hopefuls on the stock Mark was having a much trouble a few days. But other than that just as soon take my chances with the marketplace and not with the but the handful of people who are. Who somehow self anointed to -- on the economy thanks for the call him out of deference of the person who talked about Dennis Kucinich and we didn't we never talk about what he stands for okay here's what Dennis Kucinich stands for. He is in favor socialized medicine he wants to repeal the Patriot Act. This is one where we do a little bit of shall -- to try to catch terrorists before they commit terrorist act. In former fostering a world of international cooperation and whatever that means. You want to abolish the death penalty. Oppose privatization of Social Security is in favor of creating a cabinet level called the department of peace -- callers mentioned that he wants to end the war on drugs. In favor of legalizing same sex marriage. He wants to create a balance between workers and corporations I don't know what that means but I fears not good. He is in favor of strengthening gun control and this one which to me makes it the most when you ball. He is in favor of reparations for slavery. So he wants to give away ton of money all of our money to people who for generations ago or five generations ago. Can say it and ancestor who was actually afraid -- it. And felt you know if you if you think that that is. Centrist American politics at that qualify -- or support them by all means you should and should support him but for the rest of us that's left wing fringe. In politics why he wants to continue to run for our progress I don't know which -- get a lot of attention. One subject I didn't get to that I wanted to. Tax free weekend this past weekend here there were lying to people waiting to buy. All sorts of products and I guess you could get to 2500 dollars you've got a tax exemption and they may be some justification. At the high ticket items but I wonder how many people. Spend more time in line. Disabled small amount of money. There's -- gas station that I actually use it to its near war. And every Thursday -- the gas stations good prices anyway every Thursday they -- five cents off all the brands. And when I go by there's always a line of people. And just for the heck of it one Thursday -- which you know long time so I got online and took about 15 minutes now. Do the calculations you probably have an average. Of ten gallon that you gonna put in your -- right you really can't they can't go in their -- fumes every Thursday whenever you're gonna get cash. Well we can do with 20 gallons if you want that ten gallons he unit -- five cents its 50 censorship. For the 15 minutes of time that you are in line. You'll do the arithmetic that's in terms of dollars per hour it's not even close to the minimum wage is two bucks an hour. And I talked to the owner and I shed I beyond annoying if -- drug divisions but I don't get it. Do you understand it he says now I don't understand. But it it's great work every week you go by there are third sometimes you have -- there's a drive -- you life forget it. It's with the christmas tree shops motto everybody loves a bargain. And people want a slave of love -- you know you just level barring people are willing. To really deny themselves the value of the bargain just by staying in line to get the bargain. Chilean even if you double that -- or 20 gallons of national importance of -- save a buck. And you spend 15 mission now I went to these people online. On them at their homes and hey I want are ranked you for 15 minutes I want you stay right here and I'll pay you 50 says to do that. I'd be lucky if I didn't get assaulted for saying something like. And you hear diligently they line up. No wonder how much of that took place on -- free weekend. It says something about human psychology doesn't. -- it's always easier to point fingers at other people when they're doing foolish things and -- we all do them a little bit idiosyncrasies. But the reality is that sometimes organs are really worth -- And I suppose I don't know what that the profit margin is a gallon nationally maybe maybe the the the guy who owns the gas stations making out well. But for the rest of us it it doesn't make a lot of sense. Most of the time."

" Them in any case that's going to do worked on this guy but deep philosophical mode of loving a bargain that's been doing for me it's been fun. Thank you for him being part of the program how we will be back tomorrow this is Bob Nelson the food and"