Sen. Ted Kennedy

" We have Senator Kennedy on the line which is great honor and privilege for us here at WR KO demonic Senator Kennedy. -- Tom -- you. You sound very clear and alert -- all the odd issues on talk radio issue where there and that in the state. Well -- you've kind of been up since 330 preparing for you senator -- voiced. So much -- you getting up earlier this job that you did with your politics."

" Just a little bit and about a joint GA you know that we have on the error in as my co host and co pilot senator we have -- in -- you know -- from the massacres there are going to senator absolutely we know we only have you for a few minutes -- The immigration bill which was set aside several days ago appears to be -- you know generating some new momentum tell us first and foremost of -- can't every tolerant listener and I KO was interested in. Border security and whether you do that with a fence with -- do that with a virtual fence arrayed out what is the thinking down here in the Senate that event pop up."

" Well first of all our our security at the borders are broken and our immigration lawyers are broke it we understand that additional ought to be able to have. The security we ought to have yet -- immigration outlawed as well and if we don't capacity at this legislation now. Well we know is this situation is going to deteriorate and get worse this may not be the perfect legislation but it is good it is top legislation. It is practical legislation and it's fair legislation and it's consist -- our national security I think. The -- most -- start off by say what is the overarching issue at one of the overarching issues is security of our country that we you have an open border mania of the south -- you have people that are overstayed their visas we don't have a secure patient so we need a security at the border about we need internal security as well we got to know who -- in this country. And we -- bring people out of the shadows we do exhibit 12 out they give people their living in the -- And we we know that this happens in other countries states to open become dissolution that not only debate but their children become disillusioned because their parents or beat exploited and then -- because it they they begin to go in intense interest that direction so -- bill is about national security it's about them. Where people that work -- work art it's about it's said not about day amnesty was that 1986 they'll that top. At that was the least six bill that that was President Reagan signed that I opposed it. So people ought to get their facts straight -- 86 still didn't work with regards to enforcement. And -- west amnesty. This requires anybody that is here hard working that wants to go to the back of the -- paid verify its demonstrate. That their their -- their taxes learned English. Maybe it apparent that one of those 78000 young people that are serving in Afghanistan and Iraq -- can tell you that we get 70000. And we're reminded -- Jimenez who is over there and embassy now we think about. -- bravery and it is very it is courage these are so often people that are working hard devoted to their fate. Devoted to their families. And there are drawn to this country debt by the job market and so we get that this is a complex issue but the one thing I think we understand as we don't -- simple slogans and simple -- cliches I hope everybody that's complaining about our bill is going to get very upset because that's what we need we need to answer is not just complaint."

" That's -- and that's one of the reasons I wanted to have volley on and yet good to join us senate let me ask you specifically because imagine 86 the 86 bill signed by Reagan. Turned out to be an amnesty you -- that he dimension an open southern border. Will this bill. Closed the border and if so how would it do that has its 2000 miles long it's not an easy thing to do."

" It's 18 -- you're right 1800 miles long at the border in the south 4200 miles in the north 4200 miles in the north so but it's 1800 miles and the way we're going to we have be Homeland Security chertoff -- atop law enforcement person who has set out eight away here but do we did in terms of variety of different ways the increase in the border guards the entries in detention beds the increased in terms of virtual security aerial drones radars and other cut back but. As long as you have beep beep magnet of jobs here in this country you're going to have people that are -- to could be drawn two of this nation. And so what you have to do you have to have some kind of but temporary program. For job sent Americans won't take these -- jobs that'll be advertised they ought to be outfitted by -- American I would take care as somebody's job but some of these jobs. Well not be taken any of the people are going to come through the front door or they're going to come in the back door if you say you're not going to bring anybody else in the period the United States to do jobs that Americans won't do. -- the fact is people will find you could build a 40 put Spence says Janet the pilot on a -- The epic governor of Arizona pointed out some it'll build up 41 foot ladder. You've got to have a way up -- atop. A border and then you have to have a way where you let people -- upkeep duke -- people come on in better go and take jobs Americans won't take -- that will stop the people hopefully. From try to come across at the border and causing a disruption an and you gotta make sure that equipment working in the workplace and are going to be exploited their exploited doubt. We saw that -- into bed that where people were being exploited they they if they had took more than two minutes to go into the bathroom they were penalized that they talk to each other they are penalized. And a bit therefore they're being have you know exploited it."

" Yeah I am I understanding that -- senators that the employee here -- at least it's alleged in and one of the globe articles the employers may have even been actually encouraging people to avail themselves of from bad documentation I have to ask -- in the new bill that you're discussing and perhaps voting on over the next week at ten days. Will -- have a strict sanctions against employers in which would include. A government issued let's say bio metric caused some other type of tamper proof ID so that if Ali and I good faith employers. This something we can rely upon as being legitimate so we have not prosecuted as being as -- as being unscrupulous."

" You have you're absolutely right that time they have to have a tamper proof that it cart and that's actually essential. If they don't have cards you know they're there is an have a person now and in the great bush scenario they can't kept false document by night to spice up a dot tonight. There's a person in their. Anyone can get those false documents or have a system that doesn't which need them which is included in this legislation. Is the requirement that anybody comes -- they haven't tamper proof card. If an employer employee somebody that doesn't have a -- card there a risk of getting. You know 25000 dollars and -- at 75000000 by. So that this is this just part of the system fit to make sure what we gotta get back to law. Respect for the law we gotta get back to law at all what are we going to get back to a secure border we can say well we don't pass this legislation will do it sometime in two -- three years because it's got problems. Look if we pass this legislation we ought to continue the day after its side it'll all work on the problems that it's got what -- the idea of throwing in the towel say no no we can't do it this is too complex this is too weak this is too bad this is too -- we know that we're going to happen more and more the trouble attention and and exploitation and less security but security of the United States. Let me just five wind up with this an -- my comment not a we have 900000 people that are born in Massachusetts. That -- other countries 200000 of them are undocumented that represents almost almost 10% that -- represents almost 10% of our Pakistani population and yet there are 70% of our employment base. So what this -- do that to us is that the best physical bulk working population may want to work they want to work every work and work debt and coming over -- per pre election coming over it'll work. And -- They've got kidnapped 3000 businesses in the greater Boston area they're responsible for the employment a 30 -- thousand people -- they have 500000 dollars. In -- in taxes and sales taxes an excise at taxes a year so this is working crowd a crowd of -- its taxes and many of them their their children are serving in the military. So you know we read this -- not be the perfect answer but at least it's -- a way -- proceeding and I populist as well drop us a note let us -- know what they think it will be glad that your."

" I certainly recognize that senator is a good start question why will the bill have eight tilt in terms of looking at a balance in favor of Thea -- reunification all would have a bell -- a tilt in favor of the pursuit of skills. That we do not have here in Massachusetts the United States -- mathematicians engineers scientists and like -- and I had this discussion -- A little while before he came money out. And he talked about it finding a balance in a lot of people worried about the chain migration -- fairly -- I keep -- every time I talk to people around here they talked about we need more mathematicians scientists engineers how will the bill address that."

" let me give it into it true you into in the in in two parts the first of all with when -- the new bill will have 51% they have -- the pieces 70% well have four or refugees in the sight least set 68%. You know probably have 30% or skill based. A that is when the fit the bill is a functioning and working in -- five or seven years. But the next six years it'll be 80% -- based because they're going to reunite families that have that are in the backlog. And it'll be about 2020 -- three of 4% skill based but after that it'll be as -- designate a indicated earlier. Are there still -- up there -- skill base Europe to find out that our nation needs eight out of the ten occupations that are necessary for sound economy. Are basically of the lower skills but they are necessary for our sound economy. And to the other so the high skilled so we wanted to have a balanced the treatment of skills to beat -- to be weighted towards the skills that are necessary as well as I still I don't think it took that fair criticism to say. There's 12 tipped this to higher skill rather than the lower scale I think that's a fair criticism will try and work on that we. Course -- some in Massachusetts think that that's that's by because all the high tech. A couple of these that we have but I think fairness where -- the economy we ought to have some -- skills every every ought to have the the at this skills Richard necessary for our economy that are basically considered to be the that they be tied to medical technicians assistant peaches those people who work in nursing."

" Healthcare ritual art that's okay senate he'll -- army specialist Alex administers the my last question I know you've got to go that's an -- I was very supportive of what Senator Kerry is -- you intervening and that issue as well to try to make sure that his bride. His wife is not deported while he's MIA and while."

" Its status absolutely and we have we're gonna we're working with the attorney we're going to work every side is everywhere possible to do that if there's any kind of agitation I'll introduce private legislation that prohibit the the United States from -- there."

" Well excellent Senator Kennedy you've been great -- given us a lot of time in a lot of information it's a hot topic as you know."

" Okay I would help especially in allowed -- come back on some 11 sock there's still a lot of aaliyah I would tell your best he has he has a -- this is a fellow that works incredibly I have enormous respect for a you know I know he's got problems and concerns about this legislation. And he has been so constructive because I he has -- concerns any express system and it works at these concerns rather just sort of I tried the politicize it and he has been enormously constructive I have enormous admiration format these great credit toward."

" Thank you very much for the kind words center and we were being -- having -- be in this fight as far as we are without thanks so that you've been listened as senator Kennedy's senate candy you are always welcome back here on WR KO and when we come back. Interested in your reaction to senator Kennedy's comments he's given us a lot of information as to what's going on what's current what's hot. Where he's disappointed ways enthusiastic where -- archive it's my commentary Ali's expertise in a moment on AM 680 WR KO"