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" Thanks -- here on the Howie -- show up. What's the what what's your take on what's quality BC have you seen the miniseries."

" I've -- that few controversial scenes but I if I was just -- Tim Graham from the research center facility entire I think from back -- on instead. An accurate but basically conservative film alone -- fact that the conservatives have been recognizing their legacy of the Clinton and the Bush administration where the Democrats have been and now I think that -- point it appears they've actually drawn from one of my books are losing their mom for some of their material."

" We just come on lieutenant colonel abuzz Patterson and he said die if anything they go they go easy on the clintons from what he saw during his time at the White House when they had to. During his two years he said they were there were at least three chances and I believe that I I've read elsewhere that. -- many more than three chances to get bit how many chances that the clintons have to get bin Laden"

" I am going to put him in Lubbock basically -- because doesn't I'm counting the other Sudanese offered to arrest the blonde turned over the United States in February 1996. I'm jumping BS three times in which the predator spot bin Laden on the ground close -- in in 1992 the month convoy it was doing -- not. In the wilds of Afghanistan with the UAE defense minister and the CIA -- by the administration not to get them out of that I'm -- they're afraid they might kill the defense minister the UAE economic clout troubled police."

" Can understand that about that decision and get your."

" Frankly I can't there's no -- our allies should be consortia with terrorists. Who already have American blood on our -- remembered by 1999 224 people had been killed that the US embassies and not start salaam Tanzania and Nairobi Kenya thousands -- they're only 12 American of their most people were African Moslems who killed those tax and also don't forget the attack on the world trade. -- in 1993 for the attacks in the US forces in Somalia which is backed by Al Qaeda we now know that in October 1993 don't forget the -- plot to assassinate Bill Clinton in the Philippine fellow penal -- plot in 1994 to blow up 11 airliners over the Pacific. Don't forget the November of 1995 attack on the -- superb administrator Riyadh Saudi Arabia which killed five Americans into Indian national. And don't -- in June 1996 that killed 19 permanent -- on Saudi Arabia so there's a lot of American blood on the month and by 1999."

" Anyway -- minister doing their as I read it now they they're counting on the UAE to be part of this soon he bulwark against Irene and should they get nuclear weapons."

" But -- it is -- he's famous for playing both sides confederation of smaller emirates and that is one of these government particularly in about 20 continue to. I would not put them down at the most reliable ally but because we are superpower they can decide what more often than not elected but with the winner but they were the UN defense minister was falcon hunting with bin Laden and allegedly in in exchange for the wild falcon captured in high above sea level Al Qaeda and passed ball to the regularly Villa on trucks people's money for Al Qaeda. So we're not just socializing without they're materially supported."

" And now. Bin bin Laden is he. Did they -- they had a chance he too was it whenever Clinton went after bin Laden -- made the there was it was always connected to something with Monica Lewinsky wasn't -- the eve of the MP they went after us Saddam Hussein on the eve of the impeachment vote in December 1998. They went after bin Laden and the the so called aspirin factory in the Sudan. On the the day that Clinton appeared before the a federal grand jury in August of 1998 he committed perjury correct"

" you can you -- is correct but I disagree -- analysis I think he couldn't justify the attack on Saddam Hussein that was called operation desert fox and the 1998 be contested by the crystal cruise missile attacks. On August 20 1998 on -- foreign policy ground. Looked even -- embassies had been bombed that doesn't American diplomat had been killed and an attempt to kill many more -- usually you have to respond militarily no matter what domestic situation is Alex wouldn't let terrorist group declares war you have to -- it six times by the way before that attack. And then -- killed Americans in large numbers and blood of sovereign territory to what an embassy here. Are you going to respond militarily"

" 18774694322 witnesses -- Richard minutes or the author of disinformation 22 medium Mets that undermined the war on terror. You take a few calls were Richard John you're next with high if you want to call the number is 8774694322 John go ahead your next -- Richard minute dark"

" alive. Good good I like it when things like that happened because -- Jewish those who these people really are. Hanging a pitcher rob the basically says we can do what we want and we can have people on our side when the lights come with something they won't take their ball and go home."

" I don't they just not used to two minute media scrutiny if any. Well I think it very telling that distributor it's coming it's coming from ABC entertainment not for babies in this."

" I used to think that stood for Arab broadcasting company nonstop I think definitely. I thought people like you and the blogs and people like how -- because. The only thing that's keeping the glued together as far as I'm concerned."

" Before -- Senate John. One at thanks for the call 18774694322 Bob you're next with Howie Carr and Richard minutes -- author of disinformation go ahead Bob."

" Richard I can't remember our road losing that Ronald quite awhile ago did you have the -- story that was after couldn't turn down bin Laden three times he brought over an unconditional offers share their intelligence files two. It is the committee have right now being very generous in April."

" You can now it's defamatory to use her own words."

" My parents and finally choose sides of September the 28 that so what's the deal -- from both want to get in on the operation. It took two people to -- to get David butler -- whether the operation three days later on October 1 those two people were wrong -- never heard of her name is well aware that infamy Susan Rice -- the east African section of the National Security Council. And local -- whether to get butler pull --"

" Richard Clarke you've got you did I didn't go great I don't general agreement on a robot that they will. The world in 97 about that --"

" I reported that for the first time it has been reported by the people I'm going to -- an -- quoted at -- an -- by name in the book. I don't justification that I was she thought stopping up I was naive but the more important -- she wanted to bring down the government again meanwhile today and wanted to become our ally they wanted to shift away from the radical. Which should take over the country in 1989 that they wanted to develop oil and they were tired of being poor -- athletic opportunity it would loss."

" We run that that does sound Bite from Clinton every once while the new we -- from that was max and I mean with the ability to run it again people heard a million times at this point. But you know been beaten then when Clinton Clinton denies that he said it -- says it was taken out of context I don't know failure taken out of. A context they are he said that Sudan offered them Osama bin Laden and they didn't take it because there was an outstanding warrant. On him like he felt like they had him for a running a stop sign and not paying the traffic fine."

" Well I'll two point quickly one is actually that's not true there was an indictment of bin Laden either in the work sort -- depending on that they admitted it was secret at the time to the president certainly must've known about it. Four under attack on the World Trade Center and -- an economic straight. That this could have Mary Jo white what the other US attorney for the southern district of New York at the time and she had done brought before a grand jury and I appreciate having indictment I was very close -- gotten me that that that that excuses it's just yes. Actually what about the obstacles in addition Regis -- got into custody"

" keep keep your stick around is Figaro for more segment okay hold on to want to talk to Richard minutes are author of this information when he to medium is that undermined the war on terror give us a --"

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" 18774694322 that's the toll free number of the how we are -- if you like to join us. Welcome back -- us in just a moment -- which administer the terrorism expert and author and his purple is distant."

" Formation 20 to meet media myths that undermine the war on terror we're talking to about this ABC special let's it's on the ropes now. Under via bludgeoning of the Clinton administration former Clinton administration officials such a stall warts -- ethics as a CNB burglar. And it Bruce Lindsey the keeper of the secrets in the at joining you know we now have Richard minutes about -- Richard isn't it ironic that that they the first point guy here and I've I've made the point several -- and so's everybody else that that the first point man and this is sandy Berger. A guy who copped the plea to stealing national security documents and destroying them for --"

" Talk let's talk about what he's stolen why that revealing the most informed understanding of what he talks and -- the -- we didn't -- it be important only to copy. That is technically true but the most of what is generally took that he took copies what's called the millennium after action report this is after they stopped the millennium attacks in 1990 not credit except for the United States friends and that Jordan elsewhere. They would say a list of and that we should the government should follow up and do you keep you know -- tax cut. One version of that Betsy ring binder was given to -- another was given to bill and Bill Clinton made handwritten notes what all every military suggestion that would put out bullet points he wrote no no no no that's why Burke took that copy. I doubt that there's no evidence at all that Clinton turned out most military option in the year two out."

" So he he took Clinton's -- the so a lot of -- I don't have to open and ready don't have."

" No no no beside every option military option and that's the and that's the one that he destroyed. He never did he -- in the plea bargain he admitted he destroyed these documents correct."

" I think -- been misplaced the -- amount for the same thing yeah."

" He missed. He he's he's this brilliant guy were told the Woody he was a brilliant ivy league lawyer in the smartest guy in the world except for Bill Clinton and -- Telerate and now --"

" How he went to a labor lawyer what does that tell you about national security. Allegedly union about what that deal."

" Well -- well that is what tells me more about the guy is that he was willing to to basically torches own career. To what do away with these these embarrassing documents for his boss and that's all the boss cared about was a guy who would when he had told them the jump what do say how high. That was -- right."

" Exactly -- popular doesn't make him look particularly good either because he -- not they'll argue what the president he he thought Bill Clinton on a daily basis a couple of national security. Very often he could have gone the president but I really think daughter -- think -- military options here there's also protect you don't."

" and -- into colonel Hodges said Berger is also a draft dodger."

" That is why I don't have -- noted that that would. It is it is it would it would Brooklyn in 1960 Democrats -- that."

" Kevin you're next with Howie Carr and Richard minutes -- author of this information 22 media myths that undermine the war on terror go ahead Kevin."

" Showed today rips -- the -- books are here. You know Clinton also edit CIA director lugging an AOL -- state secrets on his own computer but that's another issue attribute the Greek government complexes BI director could but by computer oh yeah brilliant. Accords and you know I think ought to restrict made mistakes both born and 11 -- made up a -- more talk a little bit Richard if you put upon. Since 911 I think that's what's most important source now as Americans trying to be protected what at this crowd of the Madeleine Albright to Indian burglar crowd what they say pre 911 and they've been saying states and what does that say about that."

" Well I mean look understated -- put out for the Clinton that they actually did prevent a series of attacks the millennium plot. The big question for me -- after that there that's that's that's that's -- 99 water that you keep the pressure -- why they just drop the ball and let it go. And I think also frankly a former president where the Al Qaeda threat emerged on his watch amber Al Qaeda its first attack on American. I happen to double -- an argument grew at the World Trade Center. I was an -- attack in Yemen but in that December 1980 to demonstrate knowledge -- bill Clinton's watch and he basically did nothing about it. And I think he's got a lot to answer for I think we have an obligation as a former president Albert -- that war could -- be supportive of of of the nation as that war. I have this fight about whether wars just better not after the a conflict is over."

" What -- the breaking of the millennium plot though more just a bit of good block. Then than any kind of a sustained intelligence."

" Actually noted this was that put model what we should have been doing what you're they've forced Richard -- the FBI and the guys at work together they create secret war room where all information was -- They temporarily broke down a wall of separation -- shared intelligence for law enforcement it's all FBI and color across the country they work -- Jordanian and European intelligence and other Arab intelligence services. It to collate information tracked these guys down on them got a got a lot of them so it's so good about supposed to work and it worked for about a month but -- an understandable effort OK we're done. And that's a problem that they kept up that never would have been an analog in my view."

" thanks for the call Kevin another Kevin you're next with cowboy car and Richard minutes or author of this information 22 -- this would undermine the war on terror you can order from our website how -- dot com go ahead Kevin."

" Guys up Richard I love it when you're around -- show will be nice site he wants Scarborough the other night at night I. I didn't expect you to be -- suspicious."

" like the one who was watching that show you're the one who was watching that --"

" Well I I I rarely watch because Richard was you know all right so basically I was cannot chastened but but I tell you write your -- a former assistant to Richard Clarke. Basically was calling Richard -- a liar on national television because Richard was just. Think back like he's saying right now and I how do you -- I mean how do you why don't people idea what these people the way they treat everybody else."

" Richard what they're good question your Alley directed a moment here yet there's been great beat -- I gotta tell you I would -- salad just go out there that about Camacho and you know look they set me up by they had could see out there are laying up he's got raided targets. Then -- repeated billion and then get on the second question what is this I could always take security got my sources could be wrong my sources or Richard -- you know is crappy network and you know and those who were very close to you know what I mean and you know oh -- well you know there is little protege mentor you know but does whatever the Greeks called the US."

" In case you didn't get a the first doctor. Definitely."

" Let's look some people -- equipment that's. And that fellow -- that the operators and -- I'm not going to leveled attacks anyway look. It was under an unfair shot an -- it given the chance to respond. -- Carlos spin you don't have to be a totally unrelated question. And it looked like he'd get back entries Democrats try to cut to -- A newsman two I was supposed to be a one on one debate with Gretzky they had a third character -- that -- television all around an insidious little studio on Richmond Virginia wrote down billion event. Could barely that is really bad sound quality. So well maybe they told -- not that I was there are real."

" That answer your question Kevin. Thanks for the call 187746943 to two James you're next with Howie Carr and Richard minutes -- author of this information go ahead James."

" I just wanted that you just Opel booked this information to him by the way here interviewing yours your all your force -- forthright and too many people and they talked about these chuckle that's. Try to be fair and high minded in all kinda wimpy you're coming right -- telling it like it is an article -- book reasons for airplay curiouser --"

" Thank you James so I'm I'm glad I'm glad you came on the show -- Richard"

" la mode -- I don't know right at the elementary channel."

" Happened happened to Joe Scarborough by the way."

" I don't know maybe go to -- producers or maybe he just does well in the ratings and so is moving left but nobody showed more than a year when he and beyond earlier this weekend it was a totally different feel. It was with a total -- David thank crappy elaborately at the end and that this guy is either Republican or Democrat in the trees centrist or somewhere that affect. -- quite the National Security Council the Bush White -- pollination the war to go volunteer military campaign that should reveal something about of ideological bias."

" Thanks for the Karl thanks for the call -- James. It -- you're next with how we car and Richard minutes or go ahead Laura."

" Well all right -- where is the AC LU won the censorship issue."

" Yeah -- summer ironically -- gas."

" Yeah I. What do we -- the democratic senators put across on the letter they sent ABC that'll get the AC LU interest that."

" If you don't think it is democratic whether they were essentially threatening to take away the -- he likened the broadcast. We talk about -- correct but that even then jokingly said by Republicans who carried out if nothing else."

" I -- horrible when John Mitchell said that -- Katie Graham matter you know what caught in a ringer. You know what they basically say they were going to take away the Washington post's TV licenses if people are still talking about it 35 years later right."

" Yeah I don't broadcast legend that ought to be made private properties so the government can't threaten to take them away"

" it which you know this is this is what people always worry about with with big government you know what's in and again that all the Warsaw they were so terribly concerned when Colin Powell son came down on -- came down on the networks CBS for Janet Jackson mean what more serious -- at the Janet Jackson crackdown that's."

" And so I'd be people -- is essentially an entertainment program it's just way over the top that it shows at least the leadership of the Democratic Party is totally out of cultural reality and they seem to have but I don't hear all they they delighted in all the inaccuracies and -- bit of -- at all about that CBS the -- film which was filled with malicious inaccuracies in -- but I would certainly that pursued on the other foot they're raging mad."

" Thanks for the call our failure next with how we car. And Richard minutes or go ahead fell."

" amended or how we wrote a book to an if you want to make a lot of point should get back to his program you can buy is."

" Don't worry if I could take care of my own self promotion field when I appreciate your help on that in that regard."

" My question for -- admitted it seems like a lot of stuff that happens in this administration reached out to the New York Times search for the sick and for congress but maybe he'll. And my question to you is do you have any indication that any at this step that was gore runs during this period I've got out to the deal work to the newspapers and if it didn't like it."

" Well quick answer -- bureaucracy is again the president and the civil service Starr -- a lot of this stuff to the press. And then go for their own ideological agenda which opposes that the president."

" Got to stop you there Richard manager thanks for being with us his book is this information -- we --"