Obamacare Won't Go Away

" How can it be that we're hearing yet another beautiful but they would tell us going up the upper forty's. And the sun rising deceiving us once again rising in the -- in these tough tough tough. -- I feel betrayed by almost almost directly to use almost always while we do not lose I was raised -- told it rises the biggest."

" Yet it moves all -- that's sky's the euros by we have this tiny window so we can measure the movement of Sunday by day -- by -- really went up against yeah against the -- backdrop of the city Boston skyline is perfect Hebrew to beautiful thing I remember you did that in -- it really in the dead of winter. How Arafat to the south that is and then of course the height of some of it's really migrated considerably to the -- I love the city they love the city of Boston Rosalynn and I were driving unit driving out death. We were usually drive rarely say there's our city or your on the ramp up for the Tobin bridge and -- this beautiful view of it you say there's our city that we love so much in -- quickly sketch of the suburbs it's. How how -- a beautiful skyline it's a beautiful -- and I like coming up I like coming in over the sake. Yeah stickam is funny I was very excited makes us feel like we're visiting this function. Reagan knows all about the city skyline now -- tomorrow knows all the buildings international play deals -- building -- Chile's international players they have this -- have this -- and not in common -- and she -- from -- well I've already told the -- in the it's the subtle come in and visit to you around Kelly and then not. We'll run you and I'll run through the the thing together will stay out of one -- will run very quickly -- with -- about it right through while. So are out there that Democrats are back -- this is mind boggling to me. If they don't learn their lesson they're back -- it's like. Then what what was it the thriller in Manila what was the one. -- It -- like Groundhog Day we."

" Talked about this little bit last week when we had professor professor Cutler and we'll talk about it some more sure. How the summit is on the 25. Tony fifty when he felt that says three days televised. The president will be the Republicans Democrats are gonna tried to. Provide some transparency to what his uniform then murky I think to the -- ordinary American citizen you and I try to shed some light on -- from time to time in. We share our opinion so they're gonna see what they can now salvage and of course this there's an increase saying oh. Racing if you will of the rumors that the Democrats will resort to up reconciliation."

" He's always been as our column entry my new book to -- this so that's one of those go ahead make my day things for the Republicans if they do write a reconciliation every time. They start a new push they always talk about reconciliation. And I think it's a well wages to screw with the mines of of Americans who. I think they can't pull this off."

" Well it's amazing to me that anybody in politics either presently holding office are considering a run for office. It's amazing that anybody would conclude that that is going to lead to an acceptable outcome. Either on policy. Are on politics well how about that I mean F the American people he -- whether there well informed like you'll inform them let's assume with terribly uniformed. But right now the American people have said. Wait a minute. Slow. Down we don't sensed a crisis we don't sense the urgency -- the drama and some of the things maybe not all the things but some of the things we have heard. All learned about. We don't agree with so slow down how in the face of that now this study when I've talked about this goes back to -- somewhat. We -- begin to develop slowly in May and June and July it accelerated and August typically a month when no American is paying attention to anything other than. What time to stem the tide today show we would shall we grill shall we go out. You Israel -- let's grow. And dead and a paid attention and yet town hall meetings exploded given that -- dashed well that's what's so ironic now that's. And in in in the face of that in increasing. Public opposition to the proposals. The Democrats are -- ram something through using an obscure parliamentary maneuver what."

" they do agree conciliation not. It is a second question to -- discussion but. The idea that there are proposing this again Democrats struck out Virginia they struck out in the New Jersey they struck out of Massachusetts with Scott Brown. And guess what they're back they wanna fourth out. That's your site is retired get out of our faces what health care or should the Democrats fell summit SB TUP. And all this is gonna be as some media that. -- as a preamble to show through Obama -- 2.0 that's Mike Pence a congressman from Indiana. Who was on one of the talk shows yesterday complained -- that this summit that's happening in three days is designed to trick every gentler -- by political vein in his opinion but Republicans must have -- up their sleeves to for way to turn this around -- the fact that Obama's coming in with a health month. This is his first health plan to remember the whole thing that started in August was done with congress striding the plan that's right so this is. If you'll look at and I was -- recognition that it would be on his desk before -- went -- on his mission. Utter disaster his presidency -- in a tailspin. And he thinks somehow the way to save it. Is still force healthcare finally down everybody's throats how does that save Democrats to me this sets the Democrats up to be added a party. That can't win a national election for years."

" There's been a feature of cannibalization. That within the democratic party for many years I do not believe that the left the left wing of the Democratic Party. Particularly cares. Other than getting the majority that they need for many other things. They don't particularly care about the political survival of moderate or centrist Democrats anybody heaven forbid. Anybody the Democratic -- is actually to the right somewhat to the right of the political center Reagan Democrats however you mark column lunch pail Democrats. The justice and drove them out of the product and so they think hey. You either true Democrat -- not an end the definition of a true Democrat you can't be for anything but. This type of maneuver maneuvering that we've seen all the so I don't plan Shura are getting essentially they actually see. Even public option as a sellout because they're actually in favor of single Payer. But they'll take what they consider it to be that tainted compromise of public option. Because obviously that is that is better in their mind then the present system is over but this a political center."

" six months later the president is trying to do right here they're posting it on the Internet. They are having a summit with Republicans are trying to outflank Republicans by appearing to be part bipartisan. And he's compromising the -- there are so public option in the presence plant. And he's pandering by putting in this panel that would have the right to control rate increases from insurance companies. And they're using the anthem story from California the church -- there that wants to do an average 25% rate increase in -- in some cases as much as 39%. To make the argument that we need the government setting the prices on The -- which to me that's unconstitutional. What right does. It does the federal government have to tell some ensuring California or rates."

" Can church will literally be telling them out on Medicare and Medicaid would they not."

" I think is it means today I don't believe there would have the right to save. You know I don't ever have -- but I haven't seen it differentiated that is only on in Medicare or Medicare I know it originated with a Medicare thing and you and I have to talk."

" About this quite a bit in terms of political philosophy and political principles that under -- that under that Milosevic in the political principle is. Even the private sector in the marketplace. That it's probably not a good thing to have government saying that what you can sell -- fought. What cooks he can do the what you -- can charge for concert the marketplace determines all of those things in a beating another exchange I transactions."

" Among NB -- there's not even a constitutional prerogative for the federal government if a product is being sold just in one state if it's interstate then they can. Maybe it intervene here's a source from the LA times president Obama's new health -- overall plan would give the federal government greater authority. Two star rating creases imposed by health insurers the proposal. To be posted on the White House website today. Would give the health and Human Services Secretary power to block premium increases that were deemed. Excessive it would also set up a panel experts charged with a evaluating the health care market each year. And determine what would constitute a reasonable rate increase this and more big government. More take over from Washington of that which is supposed to happen on the state level how does this help Democrats I know it's a kind of a popular expand our."

" Oh it's -- it's a very very populist pander. There's no there's no question about that people look at ten of fifteen -- lost 20/20 5% increase were probably gonna have John Hurst on later this week he's the head of the mass retailers association of Massachusetts his small business members are getting killed they're getting hammered by twenty that's."

" Closet at a cost of health care and a -- look a cost of health insurance that is like you got -- your house springs a leak. And the way you solve it as you run outside a new tape up the house a little water comes out of the house I mean haven't solved the problem if you're forcing. The thing back down. Right and if it costs of Hillary -- is driving -- health insurance costs."

" And whether it's the second is so -- in the legislation to describe that will be filed later today by the White House. So what's the secretary of HHS she's a presidential appointee IU is anybody -- gonna tell me with a straight face. That the decisions made by that person I'm not going to be based first and foremost on presidential politics who's running for what. How a reelection campaign is shaping up. Is up 5% increase. Something we can get by with her we're gonna have to do 2% to take a real populist I don't -- in the real populist position when in fact the reality might be. The real cost might be 12% who's gonna go along what the real cost of 12% with -- system by the way here in Massachusetts remember you the old system. The -- automobile insurance right. And they were -- they would do those rates were determined. By the attorney general if I recall. After an elaborate rader may be losing insurance commission with the AG involved after an elaborate rate setting process and finally the decision was made in this as we have to give the -- a little a little clap I think. Now let's -- competitive and what people shocked us that what's dark. The speaker simulate clap."

" How how hot -- why does have a hot hot hot hot June 6 a little applause I was down a little too hot hot hot hot. Obama's going back -- again now is gonna -- I think this a trick the idea that the federal -- it would set the rates for the insurance it's another way to drive them out of business before they wanted to drive them out of business use in the public option they don't have then Nelson -- setting up a -- panel. To drive the insurers out of business then after they get a few enough insurers a -- have to start a public option because. There just aren't enough options out there what do you think of the new proposal. -- your WR -- Thomas taught here."

" Well I'd like USA and I think this is just as set out to get rid of British storage companies. Quite probably as I don't know why we don't do what I get the name of this date I don't know -- Iowa. But NN ticket and all our guys by. -- sixty million illegal aliens it's all we schools being the cost. If we had some -- program we have that controls citizenship to get free care. Cost would come down hospitals trying to recoup the costs of free kids are they put it --"

" So Jay -- you saying that does -- stayed out the end that is actually."

" Yes. Yeah yeah -- to post a hundred million dollars in the first advice think before you get any type of social service -- You have to prove citizens just up and say -- million adult already. I don't know why this channel on how much -- care we're getting out what's going until got to stop that that would save money."

" All right thank you know -- play -- good to hear from you might you're on WRK I'd like."

" Our requirement for folks and about you should go out. I think -- was to try to offset the free care pool go to work either underinsured or hot -- short at all. And I don't think that's really accomplish much -- the goal was to help the hospital. Subsidized by yelled creature going down but the -- increase this artist. You know Deval Patrick shell or even Obama show more more choice in messages that there are short there's Robert blue cross trial and try option united. We wish choice if you look at message you -- typically highest -- helpful at all -- I traded -- clipper nation. Right here where you sit there were like 88 chancellor Dahl 88 cents goes back debatable Obama has. Well I think the company on one just 3% profit margin. -- I don't -- could survive on that they're not for profit."

" All right thank you might call you up my my brother Roy Mike knows this stuff and II guys I agree I am thrilled that he called. And emphasize the point of the existing competition that exists and the quality of the health kid that we received you can go one of the cost out and it's appropriate. The the problem here from my perspective isn't this. We expect. Tomorrow's health here at yesterday's. Prices it does not. Work healthcare today is ten times better than it was fifteen years ago because of the explosive. Progress in imaging. In medicines in surgical and medical devices and surgical techniques just the accumulation of knowledge. And we're trying to hold back a tie -- Because of the cost. At some point something has to give I realized. But win -- at talking the way Obama wrist today we're gonna have this commission the secretary is gonna be -- to do certain things inevitably the innovation which benefits all of us. We'll begin to --"

" Line if you look at the health insurance argument -- we have -- competition here Rhode Island does not. And then has to be because they've regulated in such a manner. That the insurance companies say we don't -- here we can't afford underwrite the debt that's a problem with what the government has done to screw up the system. It's not a problem with the competitive marketplace and that's the big. Trek of what they're talking about let's go to Joan Jackson WRKO high jump."

" good morning. It's quite all failed policies on the past -- eight. Join the air head through this administration. What has prices. Dick -- war -- ever. That's my only question -- dealt."

" I think we all know the answer that it does not work. It does not worth it either. That kills the innovation and restarting about before -- sucks money out of our creates -- black markets know would they be black markets and help get I suppose if you and I were highly skilled doctors and columns sometime we find out we're gonna be paid sixty cents on the dollar. We'll go down a set up shop in Bermuda and saint Selig and you know what we'll do will cater to wealthy clients who wanted to -- commuter and in in developed cells -- sense of death."

" Even to assure moderately. Wealthy people. John you're on WRK -- high."

" Good morning gentlemen artist today. You know -- car you know right on the head and the guy before I -- the added numbers that's when nobody was talking about. It does companies operate on a very small margin. On small companies such they have forty employees they're gonna lose money if somebody gets really stick. You know they and that's got spare risk they've got sucked actuaries bacon when they -- they keep their fingers crossed that you know somebody in a group of 25 -- to get. Some sort of catastrophic illness but based they'll pay the -- are obligated under the law they can't say we're not gonna eighty failed they can't drop accompanied they can get you. I mean -- up toward getting insurance commissioner -- didn't serve the most. You know but nine types of things it died you know somebody has watched forty chiropractic visit their contract based we're very that they go to the insurance commissioner. You know they get rated by how many complaints are generated against their company every year not by whether or not they're right Iraq. So would it be used them to keep people happy. To make administrative exception and they claim. They do their best that they can to keep the premiums down."

" All right John thank you for the call 617266. Succeed succeed -- the Democrats are back up to bat even though they've struck out 37 times in a row. They say they're the only side that gets ahead. Once again Obama. It's bush and helped during this time he's actually there's no plan how scary is that."

" From okay. Police voting isn't scared that's brewers -- totaled over the student visas and they estimate how long. -- all babies look at Matt's hair. They say and -- better government had a comfortable and amid -- and might end up like Matt and I know enough. Nor anywhere we're here Todd and Todd Monday morning enemy and I stay low forties today for temperatures sunny day and then we have rain and so for the rest of the week so. This nice part is it sounds like it's going to be mostly rain and it's going to be more spring like weather than which are likened. Are are cut streak here continues on the whether it's good there would then have pretty lucky although the that you and others say the storm is a very unpredictable -- to. -- or whether people we don't wanna succumbed to the hype crazy hype that's all around us totally predictable that is the Obama administration which only has one piece of legislation apparently it's planning on trying to get past the rest of his presidency. And that is health care reform which once again is on the table. With a plan written by the administration this time a new plan and it's going to be posted online. And it's got to play populist -- to try to get you excited because they wanna curb insurance increases by having a panel to approve them."

" There a couple of numbers had to keep in mind and it it makes the this this this latest push. Even more astounding politically astounding to make. One of the numbers that I carry in my mind is that somewhere around eighty to 85% of the American people happy all very happy they reasonably content. Within health -- you can put a little asterisk on that says they worry about the costs and all the rest of the stuff. But they are happy with the health care system and they don't see it as in need of an intervention and urgent crisis driven intervention. I would say that another us some one number 80% of the American people are very concerned with the economy I mean. Hyped up the death about it. Looking over their shoulder think and that heaven forbid I get laid off for I don't know what what do you know people don't know what will happen there ability to keep a roof over their head north to keep their family going -- millions and millions of people unemployed. And it seems to be. I almost indifference lip service but beyond lip service. I almost under a different style Washington while we keep how in the walls on healthcare where 8085%. Say they reasonably contend. And apparently ignoring almost oblivious to the economic anxieties of people out there no wonder Obama's poll ratings have gone from. We're every -- rough in January of washed -- High sixties low seventies and a lot of goodwill I mean just a ton of goodwill. And is numbers suggest cascading down woods it's unbelievable I am really not unbelievable when you put those two. Things together 80% of people like healthcare 80% of people who opposed the economy he's concentrated on the one and how worried about."

" I have a number swells and your -- numbers I wanna be on the meddling in 45. 45 -- number -- when his favorability rating all right don't know that is the number of the next president of the United States who will be number 45 I'm excited about that Arafat can also have a serial number of battles that Apollo -- has won in the -- hot hot hot hot talk about -- thanks we got a lot of stuff going on 672666. -- what do you think of the new health -- push. Do you think they're ever gonna quit these Democrats say they're just guys they keep get bruised. And they keep coming back for more Bruce's Barbera WRQ good morning. Hi Bob."

" Hello good morning welcome MA. About a however crypto while -- to get my control system could be achieved by."

" I can't thank you Bob thanks to listen and for those of you Ellison earlier he has to be hives down on the Cape Town does and one that is no more it looks like one has has -- we held a funeral earlier this hour's hot."

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" I think he would have rather very dangerous guy who might die impeachment becoming well a couple years."

" You know lets us talk that way in the inferno mister speaker got some nerve Mossad --"

" When you know why does Bob it's great call that -- in I would talk in between the break and -- cooks he said. I don't I don't get it. How does when the when the American public has seen overwhelmingly. We don't lie we don't want we don't support and anyway this major overhaul and rewrite about healthcare. And a guy whose numbers approval numbers and now down somewhere in the maybe mid to high forties. How does he keep pushing this what type of money into a type of mentality. Doesn't say okay I just know I know in his State of the Union Address he said okay we're gonna reorient the focuses on jobs the focus on the economy. But what are the what are these one and again all this hype all this hullabaloo over health kidneys last a few weeks since the state of the union."

" What do you think of Obama's new healthcare push Mike you're NW RKO."

" I guess they are good good a couple I wanted a child a couple quick hook up this morning why you know I think -- Republican Party to certain general. Keep talking about. There it built up. Special healthcare like you know it's Communist followed up 80% of people duck -- helped you ever worried about the economy. What quieter they're people can't understand these churches got to be exact same quiet healthcare is the economy health care is bankrupt Medicare -- going bankrupt. And it also cost health health care costs are writing and unpredictably. That's being borne by small business. Something about helped get into doing something about economy both didn't get it got that."

" two good points too good points Mike Hsu let me ask your question. I wanna ask you do on Medicare indicted in Medicare Medicaid in the sort of bankrupt and entitlements. There are some pretty obvious solutions. But I don't know that Obama has a President Obama has proposed any of them and with three got to the increases that small businesses are facing. Do you want the solution to be our new government. Six. So that because I must say applied to healthcare still applies to your business let's say -- so if let's say you sell widgets or automobiles. Why should the government come in and say what the price that widget is going to be."

" real big different between acute danger talking about first of all. Acute shortage saying that all the old -- I think it is the possibility uninsured increase logistical healthcare. Just complete completely -- There are huge profit that we can't I don't understand what does go a lot -- there with a health care industry at all about the insurance industry."

" Or -- a huge drop hew our way out will. --"

" Amongst the administration. And there's there's bargaining there's huge bet that -- look at the district about -- like thirteen -- dollar going to study it. So borrow off a bit like you're not even within -- thing world."

" While I have we've had -- baker -- pretty well respected public health I mean health care professional. I think he said ten to twelve cents and how the pilgrims have been rated the number one."

" administration marketing and had completely completely you look I not to argue that Charlie Baker served up the case that. They're insured them but if you average them out across the nation you're not gonna find. That 10% goes right -- person kind of premium goes back healthcare. I am willing to wager on that pretty certainly. It's gonna be in it are much much smaller number like it back into healthcare system. I'm very large number Michael does the 840%. But it goes so like you know administrative leave. --"

" Mike can I run usage through some numbers because I I I have an honest question about this I'd like to hear your answer to we have on last week -- none -- him professor color. From Harvard who advises the Obama administration on health care in all for this plan. He said. And then bid into the first why I just wanna say the reason we're having a conversation about health care is because it's too expensive. And people could afford it. Then we wouldn't be trying to tell cut in the government that it should take it over because we can't pay for trying he says a third. -- health care costs are waste and inefficiency. Well yes did money so before we do anything else why would you not attack that waste."

" Okay let me bring your generic question if I -- because you better come up but he -- all the time. And it showed that be like it's it's sort of question about right now in this country. Yeah millions of people are gonna -- senior doctors. There's gonna be -- conversation that takes place it's gonna be like well we tried everything you know I I'm not really sure there's drug is gonna work. Onyx really well well then what you've done everything else wanna try it let's go forward. Don't struggle there are a couple of 100000 -- ER or you don't try to change -- Lola questions and answer. -- quickly answer is like if you really want to control costs that are. I think the status but it Russia cannot just paper every direction so if you what what inoperable brain tumor -- You wanna go -- get all the -- happily endorse surgery. What that is gonna push our innovation -- got -- shot lead --"

" Mike you're talking about a worst case scenario to go to rationing. In order and government takeover in order to lower costs we had a guy who's godless socialist bandwagon who's an expert on health care economist and armored. Who told us a third. Of the costs are wasted. Dollars forget about having to go rationing you attack that waste because the problem is the cost of healthcare is too high. You if you squeeze out half of that let's just say could squeeze out how are lower yards point 8% this 18% -- my column makes a great point there's always going to be the the remote possibility of some miraculous outcome once on that nobody's talking about that we went you'd would you seem to be talking about Todd. Is the obvious bread and butter that's on the plate. According to professor -- and others. That you could what I'm saying is that why you could put two or 3000 dollars back into the pockets of every family in America by fixing what is broken. This solution is not about fixing what's broken it's about using an opportunity. To trick the American people into going along with socializing 17% of the US economy the fact of the matter is there is no health insurance. This is guaranteed. Care coming from a government it is a social program it is another entitlement it is guaranteed. Kerry it's not insurance the reason it's out of art affordable insurance and because it's not insurance insurance just protection against some unpredictable. Unexpected. Doesn't happen to everybody occurrence everybody -- to go to the doctor. We're in charge for go to the doctor it's oxymoron act what we need is take the cost problems out of health care. And then. Make available to people reasonably priced catastrophic plans bang affects the whole thing. There as you don't need the socialist take over so they can watch the solace takes always going to be in the definition aren't EI had to be holders to what is catastrophic or what is basic and minimum. And you and I could I -- to look house -- the people different options on it you did you give them a 100000 dollar deductible of 50000 all you whatever you want right now they don't want to buy those plans because their goal is senate socialized."

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