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" After putting a contract to quadruple the deficit that proposed spending freeze. -- Ending don't just simply hold down spending spree and we got -- the -- first second. The first happens even in measured at 86 after I told -- some senator."

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" Welcome Sarah Palin was talking about you can she -- a charismatic guy with a teleprompter. I guess so there was an -- the only. No teleprompter. So it's definitely okay. He is the chosen one Thomas Finneran. And I'm just here -- Had your shirt so ahead and I don't -- hanging out JF for the Super Bowl lots of."

" People love so we just have that warm glow that we -- Super Bowl off yup. A wonderful game last night the right team was a nice adds some nice the Aston -- the ads are becoming irrelevant it's gone back to the way it should be -- give -- good games we don't care about the surprise because you really do focus you do your homework you like to be prepared to vote for any show. And I am I am surprised that you would not have focused a little bit mall. On the ads because -- national -- nice try and I want you don't go online you can go on and about pay ten dollars I didn't move that everybody else was walking around talking and acting like the ads were something you should ignore initially be watching the Gambia and I kept saying no it's about the ads is about half -- there are trying to. It really in the end it really is about the some in the whole NFL is based upon. How much revenue can we squeeze out of this idea that whole thing is such a money machine that everything is designed. Will you watch a pregame likely -- of the -- the actual game. They do two minutes and then you go to commercials and they come back and they do three menacing your commercials. And then Carrie Underwood sings the national anthem then you go to commercial so wave LaToya good coin toss. Do you know they had a new calling -- so -- of -- new commemorative coins and it's just warmed my heart I don't do you do legend in the pregame stuff. No I would not bother yesterday morning now and just show that broke down with two teams a little bit okay because I don't watch I don't want to -- and there are ESPN's parent wanting us there every -- every show -- and on. Public television no I think -- the family channel was doing now. The thing on the brutality of the super -- something like -- the -- anyway it was not a plausible to. So in the the story of The Herald yesterday. In the wake of Governor Deval Patrick avoiding a union convention dear Brothers last week SA did the AFL CIO's haven't a big meeting got to sell short I think it was right I think -- the governor was supposed to speak. And a bunch of Boston cops went down there to pick it -- We should 'cause they're upset they're very upset because they expect Democrats to do exactly as they're told. And that's normally -- politics works and Democrats do exactly what the unions. Demand of them but we're gonna -- cold air here or politicians are aren't seeing that voters actually matter almost as much as the unions do."

" There's some there's some union folks. We do expect to collect and half officeholders to kind of take the script on the agenda. And follow it while the latter that's while -- learn from experience. No it actually is not what department -- but there rouse some in the union movement to expect that. There are others who know what understandably that this going to be give and take -- not gonna get. A 100% -- sometimes -- 50% of what they seek to stop what they seek to advance. What the police I believe. Up are upset about is this. The changes to the Quinn bill legislation that's where cops get. A little boost to their pay based upon having gone to college and either got to cut and associates degree bachelor's degree master's degree even a law degree. And so they get bumps is that that's -- benefit which -- many police officers have. Was. Determined through collective bargaining over many years and many police offers us. Gave up pay raises for considerable period of time in order to get that concession. From this town so well in Boston the -- bill was not always in place. It finally came into place after the unions gave. Many many concessions on health and -- retirement and hey -- all the rest that stuff in order to have that. That opportunity to get when bill benefits so they look upon it. As the breaking of a contract. A contract that they had entered into in paid -- they made they made their contractual obligation they gave up things. In return to get this concession and other concessions but ripped away from them so they're angry they're angry at the --"

" About many -- still have the Quinn bill benefits the state is defund then. Their share -- yet has ends our employees I think don't have it in their contracts. That they get it no matter what right I think that's -- so passionate varies from town to town depending upon what the specific language was in that particular -- But this is what's this is why bad economies are very important things to have because that makes everybody honest. Then what happens in good economies is the Democrats who control the state absolutely. Make these cozy deals with the unions make sure they'll have their allegiance and then we get into a bad time like this. And the glaring inequity. And cruel -- of the voters of the state. Gets revealed by the tough economy and suddenly politicians like Deval Patrick who normally would do. Everything in terms of advocating on behalf of what the unions want is -- say hey I gotta push back on some of the stuff and otherwise are not gonna be around guys I."

" Try to present at -- right on the middle on the home from the perspective the police offices I think affair. Presentation on behalf of the governor was look about doing this because I want to I have no choices I have no choice is the whole place is on fire -- it's kind of what I call scorched earth. And so from that it -- you can't do everything -- otherwise do a growing economy allows you to do many things are shrinking economy. Forces you to do things that he would never otherwise considered maybe a sense."

" Are those -- and that's -- the story this governor this a quote from our Robert Haynes. From the AFL CIO is Ortiz just you have in this governor took away collective bargaining from police officers teachers steelworkers. And Teamsters he said. There's a great deal of anger directed his way. By working people. And they were Robert -- points the fact that the union vote. According to polls who went to for Scott Brown over Martha Coakley and I think Philly and in some -- he's chasing. His own members here they've already decided screw the union insurers tell me who vote for an -- for a for the lack a Democrat in this one I want Scott Brown how many co."

" From guys and gals AM remember the union my leadership keeps harassing me with phone calls I keep getting literature a blob -- block and the punch line for all of them. A vote for Scott Brown I've had at. There with a dim -- frustrated the angry with the -- leadership now this happens from time to time again it's not a regular recurring thing. But Ronald Reagan tapped into this many years ago Richard Nixon and talking about the silent majority. Ronald Reagan talkin' about Reagan Democrats it's been going on a long time so wasn't there were attempting to exit the web it's a resentment it's a resentment against all sorts of things high levels of taxation. Kind of this sense of a brooding suffocating government. A notion that people do not listen and also sometimes. From the union members again members the guys who were from a day against the sense that samarra that the leadership has lost sight of the pressure is -- a lot of these union members by the way to very socially conservative. Socially concerned out so it comes down -- who sometimes a lot of social and cultural issues as well not just the economic issues."

" Are you so we're -- unions and may be a break coming from the Democrats because of the bad economy and take of the wonderful things -- can happen of the state. If the Democrats really push I I am not expecting it but what -- this really turned into a huge group who break what if union votes were actually play what if we could really shake. The union's offer backs in terms of managing cities and towns do you see any possibility for the us. Do you see any hope that we can have a union free future in terms of them controlling -- government future what do you and I have argued about this forever. And into you almost always automatically concede. That you saw used the past tense. A need for unions once upon -- this is true of most things that liberals -- and most things a liberal believe that the liberals believe it. If you went back fifty -- hundred years they might have made sense they don't make any sense anymore but they keep pushing them well -- that's exactly the from the unions are destroying. The state of Massachusetts financially."

" Something needs to be done this so badly over tennis so badly overstated on your iPod -- how to know where to begin battle begin and end with this observation. Human nature has not changed exactly and you need checks and balances plus our government you need checks and balances -- commercials you need checks and balances on human nature and human. Behavior if you think that there are people out there who would not -- gleefully take advantage of women and children and some of the child labor laws and health and safety laws that of commit to place because of collective bargaining and the power of the unions. They -- we live and on another planet if you let nature hasn't she."

" Human nature hasn't changed and having one rule one party running the state. In cozy relationships with the unions means by definition based on what you're saying. They're gonna take advantage of the situation we need -- always nice to check -- we need a hero of the Democrats and have a little ballots for George you're on WR -- good morning."

" The -- a lot of offense. And indicated they -- 2009. It is okay I'll do it loudly when. This kind of George why is -- I could only get you -- didn't -- a lot of I don't you know they're George Nelson. It's been. Unbelievable all this is a little bit go to."

" George gonna ask you question. Can I ask you don't have -- questions -- is your union helping you. Yeah. You it is too slow to leverage our politicians -- gonna -- You are charging you more patient. They'll take care he eventually collide lira -- York jail. Eileen good morning -- good morning Lee how are you today."

" Oh get spite -- beautiful -- more including morning yeah that's right I've they've really got to do anything about. The pension problem was the union's most people don't realize. That a lot of big government union there -- legally get to their pension. -- And the money they get out is also state tax rate and we take a look at these at the attention that these government workers are getting now on the politicians they don't pay a petting -- They attacked than not it. -- when their pension plan to go defiant. The taxpayers are left holding back to -- detention."

" My memory Lee is that the money that goes in that's paid by the work of is not tax free that its post tax income that's my memory. I could be brought god into his retirement to god it's it's have to all taxes federal state everything else it's what you left west. Then missed a payment in -- payment into the league where you get that information from."

" I'm -- my -- account Ari can you double check. I well you know -- I -- Specifically about that looking call about the cost back and put us on and a private three way. Without telling them aren't so we can listen pop pop pop up partly while creating it's not -- very it will --"

" Lately and Roy were patient. Call us back you know. Department of public works and some like down highway mass highway department I believe you be paying even to the pension. 9% of your income plus 2% on that portion over threw 80000 dollar so. It's not quite eleven but it's it's north of ten. Percent in terms of an effective rate most pension actuary of people say that it's 10% personal contribution up from the person. That you -- for your own pension you off fully funding what you're -- have brought so to the future decide is well you know it depends I mean you might live to be a 105 and then. You'd be out a drained but I might die at 65 an idea -- idea. I'd be it positive -- potential levels are determined by the by the investment results -- the other expulsions the pension levels right now at least and its Indian of the legislature changed at this year so not exactly sure whether it's a final ten he has a final five years. But it's a blended average of the -- multi year --"

" They're here on WRK and that's good morning GO. Hello hello Ed good morning --"

" Morning to tell you what bothers me about all these union deal the next step. Well we get into things that have to do it government. And that the government to -- an agreement richter a collective bargaining over -- to agreement through. Individual. In this. You months we noticed -- health care. The page but people. Well if you hate agreement for -- French it's because both workers -- got something special to let that. Under the agreement and not expect -- higher. Yet I wanna go to green sort of private party and somehow my football. -- because they agreed that privately I read an agreement includes pumping up."

" Yeah I know that's -- that's a great question and in the end it it's big still alive your issue we don't wanted to do deviate from from the topic of unions in the tension that's going on in the between them and public officials but this whole notion of the government. Just really shredding or abrogating. That are caught. Contractual rights is something that we've become casual about it we try not to. This is distrustful as we as sometimes as. As a hostile as we out to the notion of government we should be particularly hostile to the notion of government coming in and just ready shredder shredding their country except for the public."

" of the government's entered into under dubious circumstances anything with a union. Is dubious circumstances because as a conflict of interest. The Democrats make cozy deals with unions help them be elected you know I can't trust on -- this collective bargaining agreement by the way I'll point out the obvious facts."

" into a Republican governor -- had one democratic governor for four years out of the past twenty now about being critical of either -- brought upon -- basis. It just have the need somebody is gonna be a watchful tough S lol yeah he'd better Republicans do that and not -- mid yeah. That's what's --"

" Everything defined as it went all -- through the building blocks of the society are built around the relationship. Between the Democrats in the union to takes a lot to break free of it 6172666. Seats succeed John your next NW RKO."

" Charlie -- John a couple of things. Equity bill is nothing is nothing but they ought to do you use less active in the in the private sector I work a company XYZ. And I want to beat that you know not for sir I wanna be in this position and it requires a degree and master's degree -- actual degree."

" I have to go get them myself I have to compete for the job that's my personal decision."

" To aspire to get to that. You know -- meet HR you've got a bachelor's degree at some extra money -- got you've got a master's degree gay people are serious some extra money but do the same job."

" You know -- but do the same job to take you we are school education."

" if the attempt to the Quinn bill was to raise the caliber of the person who was a police officer. So you could say that effectively. That's the same as you going out and getting a job more than MBA that -- you would make more money. They -- cops to be able to have -- agrees to make more money to -- the job became more complex it was a recognition as Todd says this is you know this don't in the wrong direction whenever better educated people. -- as police officers rather than just. High -- that's not."

" Sale wasn't structured the most ridiculous way and they you know you -- give a one year bonus if you wanna do it logically. Or something small that wouldn't go on forever. And you know you time -- talking about all things they gave up to get this if you are given up all those things together Quinn bill. When bill must have been what can I usually attractive to a more coming up when you want 680 WR --"

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" are communion 617. 2666 seats are still assessing yesterday's herald yesterday Carl right about trouble in river city is growing -- in paradise is indicating. Did this -- this was the era anger. With Governor Deval Patrick very unhappy with him for his violating and and really taking away taking away not just specific benefits but is as the union -- to phrase it. Violating collective bargaining itself go to the hot of collectible one of the ironies here is it shows the pressure on Democrats that if they want to do the right thing. That they're gonna get a lot of pressure. From there differ from that their core supporters you -- from their foundational supporters unions are the number one building block of the Democrat coalition. And if they do something that pisses off the unions are a lot of trouble."

" That's it it's it's not a fundamental building block when you're -- about Democrats look let's bring it down level OK now let's not talk about Deval Patrick for example already got a Republican or Democrat let's talk about reps and senators. Unions -- piece of the puzzle and you know once is -- power you know -- know what other -- so it's not because what other -- let's close what's notable let's say you live in reading and now I live and -- hole that's just an end to communities. He running for -- community. Yeah there's a union capita who lives two streets over the as a business and -- who lives three streets over in this a -- so -- over here and then and somebody else over the death. He putting together an organization or coalition of people neighbors. Friends people you played ball with people you've done volunteer community work with. That's what it's all about so -- the union cabinet Knox and indoor and sister talking by typing about this bill -- the G if you if you lucky enough to get elected and I'm happy to help -- I just like to be able to make sure I could cause you're on a particular issue you're gonna say sure but you are given that."

" Union County not only does he go or you are thinking course -- setting up their apparent Barack hasn't held office like twenty something twenty plus years never happened. It never happened will buy you any union members gonna say Tommy were in you campaign I expect you -- apply what -- us America somehow is an erratic he once you get elected -- care about the voters anymore. -- survival becomes what goes on in the building got to -- that is yes. Yeah very lonely or Allison yellow proud if you start quivering -- all I nobody could have he says no are we -- my god doesn't single out delay here on this for the Iranians than you do army says it's even you don't want to see all the wrath of the yellow -- coming -- I'd never heard periods that it's not sentenced. It might let you don't nobody nobody in their right mind nobody worthy of the office they cinco worthy of the oath of -- know it would give any individual. A veto over how and exactly like a dozen live going to exactly. They don't deserve the office and not Oregon 6172666. Heated 68 are able -- denials here Joey aren't WRKO. I joked."

" Perhaps first club to add insult to injury there Iraq spec quickly build bonuses they continue on retirement so. They not only get someone there working what they get someone never tie it in a lot of the -- police stopped its retirement at fifty so they get over twenty years plot."

" Not really there retirement while -- working with their other job Warren the -- they started -- they --"

" Straight out -- and right now please okay so I'm not disseminate. Accurate information can get -- Manhattan outgoing. Man oh man oh okay is you'll get. Bond report from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts you'll see the unfunded liability -- speed at this -- Retirement board assumed that 8%. Or return which -- have got to return ears are met Jack who wrote --"

" Iran I love. You ran just really. -- you can't you just did not think factually. Inaccurate you lot wrong. With us and our. I'm not I'm not but why you're here OK you guys are -- that -- gonna be -- doesn't -- track -- have been -- amount of the new -- It. Right out all -- how do you do you need all of very long -- there is an idiot don't understand what. I now own a urban an adjective you who wrong not -- a good job. Go ahead I'm listening now Joe."

" Every -- don't hear that that there will be -- calm while packed kick in the supplement the most tension because they don't meet the annual return. All right and."

" as -- let me give your response okay then -- continue the conversation his my response okay. On average over the past twenty years are all good okay on average over the past when he is they have exceeded the 8%. KLA comfortably and that takes into effect this disastrous market of the past two years. What do you see when the -- gives about a billion dollars -- into that unfunded pension liability. Is the unfunded liability accumulated. All over the years from about 1950. Up until the late seventies -- early eighties with paying. -- system. That the people rim place at that time did not kick into."

" I wanna pick you up by. National beauty and they paid -- and that's why not and said some. You just contradicted it shot -- like god just get billion a year."

" Don't yet know enough because Joe how are you Arizona and at payless and that we take a pen and paper and take some free and I held a -- and -- nine plus 2%. His pay moor off obviously by definition than somebody who back in the fifties was may be paying three off her law. Percent that's the difference Joe read it and -- while I. It's want to dole why is it don't make a lot of good point the I think it makes a lot of good boy knows not done what he's talking about he calls every time on this issue with a lot of venom and no information. Well he made him break -- he you know doesn't -- If you're smart -- and I know. He's still listen. Joe Joe isn't Joe understands the the way at these some of these things that taxed. And not tax and I am unsure of it and he calls it a couple of times and he's corrected me and I appreciate the correction on this it's nonsensical. -- plan how tough. And nine plus -- percent. Is pretty damn close and I what I said when I introduce stepped out of the conversation was that some actuaries. I believe and state that people paying at that -- a self funding the own retirement."

" Don't -- would not be just don't understand the change was -- hey you know huge gorilla that's not the other division and the guy he's quick to criticize play by me. So did you kiss my after we call one -- kick my Finney can we hear the sound effect again of how Democrats -- have civilized bipartisan conversations cooks up. People are aware that there. Hey you screw -- content subsonic. Or lice do clarified. If there -- anybody a mystery when there's a false accusation made I don't know -- put him back but many of them have been made over the years and many. Well honestly I don't look at -- look at all the time they exist betterment of the Super Bowl doesn't -- sort of -- this instead of the gas dried that the US. Jagr showed no hey ha ha ha yeah oh definitely the whole hero though that's its army and -- I. How hot got a --"

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" And electricity supply is -- let's. -- Boston. But simply to Africa. And paid into major metropolitan audience and get paid to -- another talk about potentially Fata but. You think I am we attacked Don Imus for maybe the first and a fifteen year right. -- into it."

" I'm your payments is so those were found pretax."

" Yes and then not then they changed it till it's gonna be text. When begin every --"

" It. So in every category they're getting some tax on one end of it. My -- yes that's worse or you wanna get taxed going in if you every choice right because that's smaller dollars you know going your profits to be taxed."

" Right but they changed my aunt Susie do many of the year ago folks I know when I get my -- doesn't target trying to that I wouldn't tax but before. And -- question please let Quinn go I hadn't been was fifty years old -- eclectic week in the sixties it really want to but they encouraged until. We paid -- almost 20000 dollar syndicate it to play. And they want it coming and did it because this belief that the it department sexual assault domestic violence in the in order to put into the police thought the."

" You're saying you coughed up the money because it was going to be your return on the investment."

" Yeah but at this point -- understood it's gonna go I mean deeply broken even yet. Get the money that they put into it."

" Yeah that's a good point thank you for Macon island there is an unfairness here even though Quinn bill -- may be a bad thing that's a total of design their economic futures around it. I have a right to be upset that and it's been pulled right from another -- camera everybody can be sympathetic to the situation the government finds himself in another hoax the economy has fallen. It's fallen right away from us coast to coast. It's it's actually global thing and so they're struggling to make do but this is this a good point that the caller -- polio kept my advice would be don't vote for Democrats. Get rid of the bombs or try to take away your Quinn bill money now to protect yourself with some good Republicans in there. 6172666. -- this creating a problem for Democrats who are accustomed to. Up pursuing only the agenda the union's hand them -- now things -- got a little more complicated they can't do quite so -- growing economy allows you to do so many things -- postponed. Contentious issues like this one this is contentious no postponement any month the house is on Friday gonna put up the -- John you're on W marquis atomic taught here --"

" Good morning gentlemen ally of John. Hey I thank you guys should bring that guy on I don't know maybe gonna have to didn't get certificates of thought because that's -- it preventing what band. Smooth playback -- but you know some of that -- these guys but then he'd like -- you'd like a crazy lefty liberal back in your region."

" He said something. Bad I wouldn't you know the foundation of them is in fact regarding up on the port so what."

" But then there's this victory come right back adamant that -- got low low low low low blow about value. You know bowed down and again you're me you got trouble with the bar and all that kind of stuff but I mean that's just taken away from the issue the fact is. You Adam when he told them that the -- people that didn't pay into it like."

" What it is time and and and John the larger point here is that is a tendency in politics. To postpone the issue to punt always punt. And then to a generation or two or three generations later he have a DM crisis so I mean this in the -- now."

" Listen to security that now that's what's going on with Barack Obama keep on doing any grabbing the money now and part of the problem."

" And you know it is that it's just like having an American Express card that does have a monthly limit."

" But you're never gonna happen worry about pay it because you already know what day you're gonna die I'd be make a deal would American expect to -- the week after well."

" You know I mean it does it's totally ridiculous that people are you know I think everything that happened a few weeks ago I have a lot of states in."

" And the American people in the comments -- the people whether they're banging hammers. Or they're -- into an opposite."

" apple -- a lot of common sense in the electorate out there and they know John's got a lot of comments on this pendulum has to be shifted back that he is the American people actually you know."