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Public vs. Private Sector |
| Published: | Fri, 11 Dec 2009 |
| Description: | The number of federal workers earning six-figure salaries has exploded during the recession, according to a USA TODAY analysis of federal salary data. Public or Private Sector: which do you work in? Which has better benefits? |
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" The question. Concerns a Astoria in USA today this is an amazing story I think -- me you always sort of know that there was. Something to the fact that government salaries were increasing in every day the the disparity between the public in the private sector. Sectors has been increasing rather rapidly and especially since the this this this recession. Started. But it's it it isn't now really taken off the the disparity. Mostly about this the other day I got -- EI -- I got a an email from a guy -- works for the federal government and he he his. His cousin wants to -- wants to get a job here in the dreaded private sector and and I'm. You know I made some calls a number of you know I've got some some promise if you -- ominous and some stuff this weekend some addresses and names. But I don't understand why anyone would at this point you coming out of college why would you want to go into the dreaded private sector when you could maybe get a federal job. Or Steve and a state job but rumba but federal jobs -- there aren't a real -- dollar crowd. The number of federal workers earning six figure salaries has exploded during the recession according to a USA today and analysis of federal salary data. Federal employees making salaries of 100000. Dollars or more jumped from fourteen to 19% of civil servants during the recessions for. First eighteen months. And that's before overtime pay and bonuses are counting. Our count it. Federal workers are enjoying an extraordinary boom time in pay in hiring during a recession that has cost seven point three million jobs in the private sector. -- certain attitude in these stories whether it's a Boston Globe now now running. Stories about people's pensions and salaries that they never used a touch with a ten foot pole I had bad. That. Subject all to myself. And now we see it in USA today it's spreading down where there -- also been many many layoffs over the past year or so. The highest paid federal employees are doing best of all on salary increases. Defense Department civilian employees earning 150000. Dollars or more increased from 1868. And December 2007. That 10100. In June."
" 2000 minds so they so the number of people in the defense civilian. Defense Department employees making a 150000. Or more has quintupled. In about eighteen months. When the recession started the Transportation Department only had one person earning a salary of 170000. Dollars or more. Would you care -- how many there are now again when the recession started one person the Transportation Department was making 170000. Dollars or more. Eighteen months later. 1690. Employees at salaries above 170000. Dollars. The primary cause substantial pay raises and new salary rules. I'd say it's a substantial pay raises. That's amazing. What's going on. Jessica Clement government affairs director for the federal managers association. Says federal employees make 26%. Less than private workers for comparable jobs. Right. Right. The growth in six figure salaries. Says USA today. Has pushed the average federal workers paid a 71206. Dollars 71206. Dollars for federal workers. Compared with 40000. 331. Dollars in the private sector 71206. Dollars versus 40331. Amazing. Amazing. Pay caps abilities many top civil servants are pro."
" Have voted for making more than an agency's leader. But if congress lifts the boss pay the bosses salary others get raises two when the Federal Aviation Administration chief's salary were rose. Nearly 1700. Employees had their salaries lifted above 170000. Through. Four for lower salaries. What a free and in the public sector was always that well you have security and you have a pension you don't. You don't have the the -- did make quite as much money which have more security. But now you have more security have a pension you have healthcare. And you're making on average about twice what the -- what people are in the dreaded private sector. So Cindy what is our poll question today and what are the results so far as C if I have any doubts about what the results are going to be here in this -- sector has more jobs. Which sector has more. Ways in which sector is is has more benefits data centers better job slash benefit your which sector is better to work yet. Are currently 74% have public -- only 74%. I think that twentieth. 6% actually work in the public sector and don't want anybody -- know they don't wanna let the they don't wanna let the cat out of the bag I think the cat is out of the bag. All right 18 says so which is that's the poll question today which is the better place to work the they the public sector. Or the credit private sector 1877. I had somebody wants to wish you a Merry Christmas okay who okay go ahead -- that's."
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" Let's jobless and your card number to send you one of those nice cards that you saw today in the paper route Scott I think you should I -- you should really put out -- you know we elect has said the paper today just. Even if it's just at the very end of a spot you wanna say Merry Christmas to everybody."
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" Well that's great. That's great so you're not gonna be here are going to be PC about this that's good Scott I think there are you -- Mark I know I nobody I thought about after -- wrote the column yesterday should've told you that you know you Barbara how much how much money Joe Wilson only Republican from South Carolina. Got in contributions after after yelled at a President Obama I think if you really got out on the national wire that you what you would said Merry Christmas and -- TV spot. I think you'd you'd have a huge. Weaker to a fund -- and after that."
" Well certainly we could everything is going well we're working hard have been everywhere and -- a lot of money donations coming in write a script that will be greater. Employees to get -- message -- no doubt."
" Okay so why what did you hey listen let's see if we were. Cyndi -- we were you could we gonna record something nominee get Scott something to say here. This is this is senator Scott Brown and not like to wish but listeners about how we car show they have. A very Merry Christmas how about that Scott can you and a roster or heroin or Howard. 32. Ways three joke one."
" This -- United States senate candidate Scott Brown I don't know which you're very Merry Christmas and a happy new year."
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" Assist state senator Scott Bradley nice state senate candidates start ground pursue new and that's how we can't listeners are very Merry Christmas and happy new year."
" Then you golf battle suffice. That's our and we'll try to you will try to work that them this is several times today had done it for the remainder of the holiday. Season. Don't worry I'm OK may have Merry Christmas to you to Scott now we're gonna be this weekend where -- going to be everywhere. Yes everywhere and I'm proud okay where should people expect to see you UB malls that where people might be do. Lula de shop and asked."
" They're big enough holiday shopping they have this my they have a -- women here so I didn't make sure you. It -- not stop my belt and go get them."
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" I just over a car actually -- know where we're actually doing a lot of very different types of things were going down your best perimeter beer out of you know -- at a bar tender you know doing a charity event that I'm going out to Gloucester with senator charter -- So it's shops -- haul holidays. Events there and you know that's Saturday and then Sunday we -- full day as well we're we're just going -- forced seven."
" Okay Scott hope to see over the weekend and they number of a look for the getting the Christmas card and you'll you'll be getting my card -- Okay -- Merry Christmas to get very very very very direct he sounds like Ebenezer Scrooge at the end of a Christmas Carol. God bless us everyone this tiny -- what's. One except she's -- and sports 694322. OK the how we poll is brought you today by -- long auto the Cadillac of Cadillac dealers featuring an outstanding selection. Of new and pre owned cadillacs. Plumbers and sobs visit online at long auto dot com or in person on route nine in south -- It's say it's one of the if these two wanna talk about the election we can do that -- won a further about the about the federal type. 18774694322. That's the toll free number. Of the Howie -- show if you like to join us and speaking of holiday shopping I will be. At the paper store in data -- from. Ten to noon tomorrow selling copies of my book the Brothers Bulger and you will have a lot of stuff to give away will have some of the grinch. But how we cargo -- T shirts will have subpoenaed T shirts. Will have those in those those Christmas cards at that idea I had not put there are copy of in the paper today. I'll have some of those to sign if you wanted to sign him for you or sign him for anyone to your relatives RBI our friends I'll be glad to sign -- sort. Even if you've already bought the book come on down grab a magnet maybe you'll get a tee shirt I don't know we don't have enough T shirts for everybody welcome we have a lot and I will figure out some way to give away. So albeit the Dedham. Paper store legacy place from ten to known and then for 130 to 330 tomorrow albeit the paper store in Chelmsford that's often drum hill road. And same deal will have T shirts and magnets that post cards and Christmas cards and you can buy a copy of the Brothers -- get autographed if you wanna. 18774694322. But they -- Scott would get a lot of -- coming in from around the country affront."
" somebody for mob Massachusetts. Was it was to say yeah Merry Christmas and I in a TV spot I mean that would be that would be so. Un PC I mean it's it's you know it's so natural received for someone to say something like that but it but you know when this in these times. It's it's considered. This. 88 social faux paw at the very least an -- speech at the worst. 18774694322. I gotta -- battle letter of the officer mark semi from Concord Monitor to -- what's complaining. So -- they -- they did the they did the beginning of the Christmas shopping season in Santa Claus showed up. And this this is this person. Was bent out of shape the Santa -- was there because it was just. It was just too darn Christian. What that what the hell and they had a pig they have a nativity scene in front of the state housing conquer what the what are they thinking that would make it seem like. Like Christians live at New Hampshire. Charlie you're next with how we cargo ahead Charlie."
" Yeah Merry Christmas -- Merry Christmas to YouTube Charlie. But what sort of -- pretty I want the call was -- open about the your governor employees yeah talked about Britain -- big part of why they gave what they're doing in a recession. Yeah they're great worried that the great during the off our administration. Why should fire the third state they try -- both work."
" Well I think some of whom did some some of it did start under bush like for instance pay hikes. Then President Bush recommended and congress approved across the board raises of 3% in January 2008. It's -- point 9% in January 2009. President Obama has recommended -- percent pay raises this January next day in January 20 -- the smallest since 1975. Most federal workers also get longevity pay hikes called steps than average one point 5%. So I mean you're you can blame a lot of stuff on Obama but this is -- this is not totally of his making."
" Harris I understand why they go through but like -- just. Let's be wrong -- pictured talking about public option. For health care why don't they just -- the government option. Is really that's what a good."
" Right well play -- they they try to shape the language -- if you control the language you control the debate it's like up pro choice right it's about pro choice and pro abortion. -- Thanks Merry Christmas to you to Charlie 18774694322. OK here Zamora bushing bush connections to this. Paid bonanza that's going on in the in the federal sector. Congress created a new national security personnel system for the Defense Department to -- toward marriage. That's the biggest joke of all the reward merit programs in the government you do believe they did that for the post office I think they still go what and it turned out that they. Supposedly had this objective list of criteria that you had the -- to get the bonus. And it turned out congress and in the some kind of investigation and I think 99%. Of the managers at the post office we're meeting the supposedly stringent criteria and getting bonuses. So congress created a new national security personnel system for the Defense Department to -- merit. In addition to across the board increases. The merit raises which started in January 2000 made Obama was my president that -- that I just want -- repeat that we're larger than expected. The world are what what an amazing coincidence they beat their merit raises were larger than expected. And were awarded a high ranking employees. In October. Congress voted to end the new pay scale so you have a demo or even a democratic congress even probably one of the most left wing congresses in. Since it'd -- election of 1964. In the great society. Even congress recognized in Nancy Pelosi house recognized this was a giant ski I'm going on and has voted then that. 18774694322. Frank your next with how we cargo ahead frank."
" how white people on their credit they're -- Merry -- YouTube's. They are little rock star -- he -- you think they've got to stop it shot by -- excited. Sacred well -- no big. You don't want to carry it out if your -- anyway. I -- sluggish and I got a little problem I'm I'm unemployment. Are collecting stamps single bad. Who are my local product review the released by the result no child support. Right now what a great sellout villages awards orders come -- everybody from all over it all comes up and it worked who create jobs and I believe the money at all. When I speak to to put a stop to this debate has spot there. Think you -- you didn't failing bid book when he got info I've passed -- you it's a beautiful you look like a bit so hopefully eventually once they're all good. But come up a bit of mud. -- to encourage our particular about it all. Don't know it would go to America to do about it wanted to -- goes without I don't Humberto did Milosevic broke earlier."
" Right frank Pat Buchanan wrote a column about this today this this week you couple days ago we were trying to find in my -- that we've been able to find in my we actually call them what can they come come on the show. He said -- this kind of unemployment rate. US. And especially these visas that they're giving your right there it does the high tech companies are still allow lookin' for more I think that column B one visas. So they can bring in enough people from -- alike places like India. They had and every a metal and they'll work a lot cheaper than Americans obviously they'll still be make a lot more -- when you're right a lot of almost -- it back."
" Double limit what they did little mobility campaign everybody loves the minimum wage I would just pop -- shop. And as -- obviously what I would like to wait what do you could pick up and they don't aren't aware it wouldn't let -- become well. Not good and bad discrimination when they can -- me. And I'm qualified it might be English and gonna are not allowed and didn't think there's pros and and I'm not a good job I'm collect about a -- bold step."
" What pray tell -- we don't you don't. You're congressman bill Delahunt is not gonna do anything about that -- say he's like he's in favor of the illegal immigration pretty much did not forget legal immigration."
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" Back about the public sector jobs were about to get a whole new batch of them down had been Dartmouth with this new --"
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" Like so we're pissed they were that there would eventually make money for the state by double in the enrollment -- thought. Yeah -- going to be is that the budget Quinn bill collect even though illegal alien once they get there in state."
" I like to they also said the wood this will trade more lawyers for the public sector. Like there aren't enough lawyers in the public says they're enough lawyers in both sectors but I thought about -- that the poll question yesterday -- figure was too depressing to we have enough lawyers in Massachusetts are not case you missed that. The and here's the other thing joke. I thought the state was broke. Now they now they they have just picked up a bust out law school. It's gonna cost tens of millions if not more to it to get back up to snuff we're gonna -- Add all these high paid people that are that are down there they're all gonna give themselves pay raises. And that's somehow figure out a way to grandfather themselves into the state pension system. This is gonna end up costing us at least a hundred million bucks and -- for a lot."
" We need a likely need a hole in our head."
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" 1877469432218774694322. Officer mark says are you going to live shot carries birthday party talk about a reap great re gifting opportunities you urine that stack of Kerry Edwards bumper stickers. I won't be attending he says apparently my invitation got lost in the mail a makes two of assault officer mark but you know I do have a perfect re gifting opportunities go off if I had gotten an invitation. A mirror. John Kerry never has enough merit you know they all saying you know you can never be too Richard to -- As far as John Kerry's concern that's true but it what is also true you can never have too many mirrors are too many call ups. And that's -- go with the go with that. 1877469432. Try to find that moon -- whether where -- about about all Airgas. Christmas only this is to the Concord Monitor. I recently attended midnight merriment on main street in Concord always beautiful there were few things that I had a problem would. This event was the kickoff to holiday season. During the season many holidays are celebrated but I only noticed one holiday being kicked off. Christmas. Yeah that's what they called at midnight merriment because it Wednesday April used to be called Christmas something but they called the midnight merriment but. Here's the bitch. Santa Claus was there walking around you can also send your letter to warm right there all -- music was. Christmas based. This all would have been fine had there been some ballots. If Honecker Kwanzaa we're stretched as stressed as much as Christmas it would have seemed fair. Trust as much. Who would do more people celebrate Kwanzaa or Christmas or or how. Additionally right in front of the state house was the scene of the birth of Jesus I believe that this is very misleading. The state house is supposed to represented New Hampshire. By having the nativity there it's saying that only Christians with -- it is how is it's a dentist say only Christians live in New Hampshire."
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" I am right Dave -- and thank you. Stay out of our federal employee so I thought -- give respectively in this abuse for me I suppose. Anyway don't wanna plays -- and so fight figure salary. Now to put that perspective memo -- are signed says that have a Ph.D. at a major university. On some might call. And I am -- the Department of -- My colleagues that do the same thing I do make about 25 stadium where the night doing may have the same benefits now. You know I would say that you know maybe a lot of people on the government might be overpaid for what they do. I think right a lot of this scientists who do a lot of that and engineers do a lot of the research work. You know we work for the Department of Defense because you know we've been there were actually doing something for our country."
" For these people that are making a 150000. Dollars that they have to have quintupled in number since December 2007."
" Well like a couple guys that I -- senior technologist or you know very highly regarded in their field -- about the scientists and engineers. You know and I could the other guy you know -- manager they get to move up the food chain link that I don't look good some of them aren't but you know. It up."
" You don't want change in -- Steve you know what kind of food chain we have endured the dreaded private sector recently I don't know I mean a lot of cannibalism. But you know."
" Their respective Bergkamp look at our manager and you're managing a thousand people. You're gonna make like out. Haven't figured type of its outerwear is on the government to make might make maybe 200 K year topped."
" But they're they're very few people make it seven figure salaries the end in the it it anywhere -- the."
" I admit you 1000 people organizations so."
" I can't. Do you mean do you think that that that there should be this kind of discrepancy between the average federal workers opposed to the average on federal the average dreaded private sector worker."
" Thought I would I would date yet but depending on what they do for example look here. Taken that ditch diggers from the private sector are comparing to those -- scientists and engineers -- Ph.D.s that out of -- comparison but if you're comparing -- for example secretaries and clerks. When the federal government was spectator and personal the private sector I think you'd find they're probably making quote."
" And -- I don't think so I do -- will look at the herald website for the city aboard a city go to the city of Boston payroll on the -- bought a Boston."
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" Like -- Marino's daughter off friends that the mayor's daughter she's a secretary she makes over a 100000 a year she makes more than you do --"
" You all bet he'd done a -- you know he's not that they are now what -- at -- that you're talking about. I'm intimately it would familiar -- that."
" What -- an NS PS all -- a national security personnel system and mess well rob yes."
" And -- now you're right in a certain respect they get help a lot of people initially but. The union is the federal union actually wanted to do away with that -- with the old DS system. Because the one good thing about it is the a lot of the debt would wouldn't get any rate is under the NF PS."
" But rarely does an -- but I don't think it works IA -- I think that was the theory Steve but it's like the theory behind you know having bonuses for a post office post Postal Service managers you know I mean the way it was it was supposed to be set up to weed out the dead wooden award the efficient. And as it turns out it was just a huge pay raise a boondoggle for everybody concerned."
" But -- where I work we do is something that something different but something and now that the and it PS. And I'll tell you from my experience. That the -- hasn't been get the races. And the people who actually work I would -- myself included we've been able to get like a consistent rate year after year. Where a lot about the people linking yet that he would literally have to wait two to three years before you get a step increase. That way you can't keep promoting the people that are actually do what --"
" I tell you I can. I can tell you in in most I mean I work in the media in the -- the places I work there's a lot less people. Now that the war in December 2007. And the fog that into analyze and more people read their looks their salaries frozen. You know I and I think a lot of Orange."
" I'd love. Pete -- I do not view of particularly -- in the media if they give you would give up balanced story day. --"
" They know does show you this happens to be the part of the private sector that I know I mean -- you're right I mean that the media I I agree the media should be taken down a few notches and it has. But I'm just saying that there's I mean the I'd share of the number of people making you know -- six figure salaries salaries -- 170. Quinn told -- in its eighteen months I mean that's just not gonna happen any anywhere. In the -- private sector right now Steve you guys you guys haven't really good right now."
" You're at right now it hit bid when you haven't much and I'll give you that."
" Yeah -- I don't think I don't think you get too much to complain about the last twenty years or so actually I think that's when things -- It used to be there everybody -- kind of moved up together -- give them. Public sector not just not just federal workers but -- well all the public workers have done a hell of a lot better -- the pay you gotta remember to pensions still Steve -- don't you -- Freddie dreaded private sector there aren't such things as pensions anymore."
" Well there's not really catch its breath as much any market or kind of wanna thrift savings plan but yet still you know -- points -- one case. The -- yes I post safe from deficit why is you know I've got nothing to complain about and I've done well. But I think -- from my perspective I have -- to Baghdad and -- from -- you know. Your -- is pointed you know a lot of people don't deserve it a lot of people probably don't but you know what. In that somebody like you know without you know go to school look at the Ph.D. or even master's degree and they work hard."
" Work hard here to -- work hard here to Steve I got to move on it takes more culpa thanks for the call 18774694322. A that you go to places in the dreaded private sector and it looks like. Outward used to be office buildings are offshore floors where people made things now looks like a warehouse is everywhere everybody's gone. And be your next with how we cargo ahead Andy."
" A Merry Christmas album is due to the that I'm our private contractor working with the DOD and I work with these government -- day in and day out and outside of street attitude of -- I deserve it. It's a joke. There really is and right now President Obama has decided that there's too many contractors working for the federal government so what he's got it still. If she's transferring. All those jobs he's making his government civilians. So not only are we get the big bucks now is getting it was the job security. It how old Cali I worked to deprive expect the most well I've I've got into that subcontracting. Business in the last few years I have never. Ever changed such incompetence. With the government civilians. These people don't have -- Are they don't have a clue what they're your artwork with people who make over -- 100000 -- a year they don't know how to use email. It takes their age to get things done it ever I just sit there are lie awake at night they can if we turn left that our health -- over the these guys. Wish or -- mean government civilian. The Crowley they're useless any credible."
" Couldn't manage the cash for clunkers program another wanna did the manager health care and they wanna manage 300 million people's health care and I agree ending its."
" Fire these people we've got people who are so incompetent public -- can't fire what they do is they -- all come up out of their apartment. As it is absolutely can shape. Are you -- say Ali very --"
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