Gerald A. "Tooky" Amirault

" We -- praised Gerald emerald and you were just talking about the Celtic is case why was involved in that case -- your -- wanted to thank you guys -- bringing that up and I are just one I just hope that people in Massachusetts remember my mother when they go to the boarding school. Remember that these. -- you'd -- you know can't start Harshbarger. And our Tom Reilly all. We just the team when he came to the browser they can skate and what they did not only -- family but all the the only that were involved in this case just one of the largest injustices of Massachusetts history. It's still got that the media I mean I did get a lot of media coverage and people coveted and exposed for what it really was. But there's so much more the could be done but in this day and age. When you're asking the public defender courageously -- billion new work -- you shows you weren't -- that -- the world now we have people don't have time for a good story you know -- quick sound --"

" No joke it's on the notion you know it yeah hi I just wanna play fair here and he called in on the rail line so we -- he sounds like Geraldine -- We don't know for sure I'm just leveling with the audience on this. But given what that -- again and what are your what are your feelings. Having gone through all this and suffered through it all. You must have an enormous amount of resentment against all the players and and and and Martha Coakley is a one out front now because she's running. But the other issue participated in the cases well. Harsh Harshbarger Riley Coakley."

" Well you know -- it's Kevin -- an understanding of what was happening in that moment in 1984. When I was first. You know accused of this ridiculous accusation. They would not -- I'm I'm I'm understanding of how to deal with these cases. -- you have to put it -- its its base in order to understand that I've gotten well beyond that at the beautiful and we have two grandchildren and I have too much. Positive -- my -- to let. You don't hold any kind. Resentment is kind of a strong word I mean he's every bit what happens silly but I can't get that back or kick get. And I went in there when I was 31 came all that was 49. I win my daughters were fired at six and came following middle -- limit. You know my son -- I mean I would he was born when I brought on eight and 1984. And I came back it was almost forty years old. I mean you know I do water resentment but I don't litigated in the way of my life because then they went even more."

" Local but you have you have it you have a refreshing and dare I say eight Christian attitude about this it's the biggest challenge in at least in my faith as a Catholic. He go back to the phrase and how well it's pretty if we give people live -- as we forgive those who trespass against us and if in fact this is Gerald Hemmer -- him to reach the point that he's just share with us and our audience of hey I'm not gonna let that. Hold me down anymore the decision however however reckless and irresponsible was. Would make me even more -- And more capital -- the decisions that I'm not gonna do -- you near forgiveness Norton I'd be offering his do you -- give them what you overcome that shall surely you're gonna chance. To confront any of the people and how hard I -- I Coakley."

" It's against my parole conditions to the ever even speak to these people you know I mean I really don't have any any arm you know I I really don't. You know I don't -- wanna speak about it they all know what state did okay did you -- lady Nicole Lee Harshbarger. -- our trauma Riley -- the largest Jason Massachusetts history okay they they got a prosecution on all counts they got a conviction. Did any one of them ever use -- as a campaign. Positive. Did you ever hear that. Will tell you sometimes silence speaks louder than words doesn't."

" He does what about your families talked about your children and then now grown their families of their -- have they ever been. Interest in and nor have they ever confronted any of these and the prosecutorial officials."

" Now we don't like Mike Stanley we would never do that -- we completely understand why don't we we can't what would that work without benefit you know what I mean we still -- I I have no no no interest in doing that these people just mistake was so bad it's so huge that they could never have it's yet there's."

" Landed on justify at all -- and -- Tom -- mentioned before about forgiveness would you say that you or your family have forgiven these people."

" Yeah I mean -- given to our other big word I mean I don't forgive him because to be honest which you were so irresponsible what they did if you -- me. You understood how my case it all. How hotline phone call brought me arrested two days later I do -- senator was in existence for over twenty years. -- I mean here you're always married to my -- I had -- to element to cap the school for eight years at Norris it's I was six years old. Actual beautiful children and I'm gonna just become a -- And I'm not bring my mother or sister along with me."

" Gerald you mentioned a couple of times the period in which the secured and the emotions that were running really really nation out there wasn't just local it was national. And I mentioned the book by Barbara Rabinowitz is no crude charity. -- I'm sorry judge Arthur of the original crew attorneys probably I I think the definitive book. Out -- on this you run and the reliance on. It really tenuous testimony the testimony of three and four year old."

" Even younger and I'm it was they were -- door -- Julie if people it's people who know how this case was. Just. A -- the dynamics of this -- case. She wouldn't get one vote because she had -- could possibly do with this achieved rally the troops when I was glad that a commutation by the full board unanimously. She rallied the parish. And although it you know people on the other side of this base case Jarrett or go to warm change swept. School without luck because. I would've probably been out two years earlier if it's governor Cellucci had stayed around and not became an ambassador because. He completely believe that my innocence I believe that we were railroaded. And yeah I I really hold out against her because. You know that's what they do a lot of -- I understand what is really a victim of a crime. They beat its sociedad the beast people have to relive it every parole hearing -- every commutation request they bring them any like big. You don't get -- it's just terrible it's oh yeah problem I don't have any problem if they really wanna do it. But it's almost like the regular patrol. Pulled back the people -- gonna make the decision I'm kinda decision they really make sure we had."

" Appreciate the time in the calling this is this is say this sobering up there's Russia did Gerald."