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" Yeah that -- I know you -- strokes and a windmill hole but that didn't hear you pretty consistently read around -- you know that for every additional soldier. That we send off tour Afghanistan's gonna cost a million bucks about a million bucks a million dollars per soldier they'll what do you think about that that's sounds like health. A lot of money to -- think of this thick of the in the boots are white eighty bucks at least idea from -- box to a million I don't understand it's the flights shape right you're sitting on the bench. -- first class or anything no stewardesses come our mistakes no that's true enough but the logistical. Lift. Two I get a soldier over there in and to split that soldiers in the field in a country that does not have what we have. Roads trains. Imports very mountainous horrific terrain under horrible conditions people trying to sabotage supply -- them like. I'm not surprised to some million dollars per soldier doesn't surprise me analyst and as you may have heard the president is considering. With those of the capitals on the -- consider. Sending more troops in -- maybe as many as 40000 as many as -- fortieth sounds like he's maybe I'll split the difference on that because he's thoughtful and that's what thoughtful people do so he may send twenty to 30000 troops nevertheless you're talking billions and billions and billions of extra dollars at a time in which. Well Obama's already squandered so much money we may never recover the as a matter of fact to know what we're gonna stay with this issue but if you've got to help me at some point. That I helped lead with a with a number that follows trillions because we've moved so comfortably in this country unfortunately for discussion. A public expenditures in the millions. Another billions now -- in the trillions yeah I truly -- I don't know what I don't know -- the next number is now I'm really don't know until somebody knows we have a lot MIT people listen but apparently there's some people washed into paying attention to this and Peter Rose again I think is the budget director in the White -- he's the guy who's come up with a million dollar per soldier figure -- so -- the 40000. A million dollars Europe is a forty. Billion dollar hit. On our road deficit or about you know -- balance sheet that's not not do that to be sneezed out although forty billion in this still is the way they've been go to our hundred. That's kind of walking around money."

" So he Carl Levin is the United States senator from Michigan I believe very liberal guy you've got it and Carl says there should be a new tax to pay for the increase in troops. Going to Afghanistan this seems like a pretty responsible proposal one of the big hits on the Bush Administration was it took -- to -- never. Had a conversation with the America be -- said look at this so we have to do an end in order to pay for we gotta cut some other things out or raise taxes which you wanna do. He didn't do that I think -- he he didn't want to face that unpopular kind of position but it's something we need to do and -- all the spending going on now we just can't afford it. So how do you feel about a new tax to expand the war in Afghanistan 6172666. CH I -- I die and."

" Hit people's response this this is gonna be very very instructive I think most of -- listen as Todd say support the troops. Go for the surge. Cue from the 40000. This is no substitute for victory we must do all these things take it to the Taliban take it to al-Qaeda keep the war going in an aggressive way more boots on the crap find signed me GAAP. But on the guy I'm also the going to be that guy in the room who says and now we as a nation. Must pay for -- if we're serious about the commitment if we're serious about victory stopped screwed around and pass the bill. Happy kids. He kids who attend 1220 how overall they. You scroll numb with this decision so Carl Levin is onto something now -- part company with columns at you notice how cutie is. Cute -- he says now -- in terms of sexy you know I'm four feet tall."

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" Jolly jolly guy you know Lisa 75 year old guy I don't -- going to be NGQ next now. But -- he gets politically cute on this in his call for a tax to pay for the cost of these awards. Plural while it's also nice because we should be doing the same thing with Iraq would be in picked up by a tax on the wealthy. This is a continuation. Of an absurdity. This is beyond belief we -- it in it as a nation because it's a national commitment and a national imperative -- not in a foreign it is a nation. Everybody well -- attacks."

" The -- if anybody is just to trek of those Democrats to divide the country they're all about divisive -- And that's a way to push everybody often their respective corners and their demagogue the issue ultimately we all know that it is going to be -- new taxes gonna hit everybody eventually. No matter how they started out by it doesn't hit everybody that's my point why does not you know they will go -- by the way he really does half the country right --"

" He describes wealthy is making more than 200000 -- are people doing fabulously well. -- any idea what the total taxes that's being paid by people who are reasonably successful. And of course that number is this reasonably successful member of the taxes that are being paid by those people are staggering. And how the country is just sit back."

" On -- float RAI people and hotter fast stuff I just buying a new taxes I think we should pay for the expansion of the war in Afghanistan but I don't see any reason to raise taxes ever when there's so much waste in the government as a matter of fact I think we can get this forty billion dollars. By -- cutting waste and fraud in Medicare. 617. 2666 seats exceed to your favorite Democrat increase taxes to increase the war makes sense doesn't it. Fresh you're on WRK a high."

" Hey good morning how are. Jewish but I'm. Like I do think if you increase tax and actually view without. That the idea should be across the board but you know I did this -- much -- got up. You know this idea of change or bomb a war that huge -- without DR know -- prominent yeah these problems. That'll be that'll Obama inherited and reload the money and they're allowed to go back to Iraq -- we've squandered three trying dollar there. For what that might not think."

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" 3% of the population is paying about ninety plus percent of the revenue do you go to camp -- they -- appear --"

" I don't I'm confident that percentage of the on the other countries in this country."

" And -- as MI but do you think that's a fear outcome one -- all of you American citizens. With certain. -- contrasts auction and everybody have some bread they you know some of some skin in the game."

" And I currently I actually do we -- absolute -- game about nobody that idea that. That the talks coated I'm -- did absolutely ludicrous if you look at what happened the last thirty years that does that blowtorch and people can look at it appears that you got knowledge in this -- Okay great it started out of their income -- stock through all of which are playing a smaller bird."

" Reached that big -- that's the biggest and I am not some guy is okay and you are not things. If somebody is paying nothing did nothing but a free ride up by donations from very early -- hurry suicide rural town riding I mean I knew what time he's told. Talk -- total taxes not federal -- not a -- LSU time now once a while congress nature requires these stop talking momentarily. They'll let somebody else talk."

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" Always talked earlier about -- for 12. Thomas discussing federal income tax you're apparently talking about total taxes correct."

" Doctor couldn't concentrate federal tabletop let them out of how much money you make how little what do you make you pay patented the idea okay I don't think concoction obsolete can't be true populate -- my --"

" That I'm not only not pay they get an earned income tax credit and get cash from the government. How does that --"

" I guess you're right yeah we sure wish rebellion that stupid bush tax code that would count Scott Garrett got back got bush."

" Various thank you wow -- unfortunately we love getting callers like you you have to be able to be rational. It's just a little bit for a few minutes a day and then go back -- ninety beliefs. And you have to do whatever conversation so we can build some playing what you're saying -- ranch -- tax --"

" Whether it's Jimmy Connors tax code the fact of the matter is it is loaded. It is loaded in of every punitive fashion. Against people who make some on paper pre. Good money this is the whole basis of a progressivity. That's built into. It's it's -- and -- fundamentally concerned about but I look at I'm not gonna make -- a line in the sand and have a fight preparation. To what will you behaved the main subject if this is a national commitment to victory and the pursuit of the Taliban and al-Qaeda we all belong and it you know everybody says -- nation that walk nowhere -- nation at the shopping mall that's where we got nobody's -- again except the men and women in new reform. And the and the people about Washington keep put the bill back for the next generation in the next generation after that it's absurd it's irresponsible."

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" TD economics well when I -- Larry going to school she -- Clinton I think it's kind of almost surely you that is set up PO without senator Dick do -- I'll one point nine trillion dollars worth our deficit dispatched here which runaway spending on social programs should -- 400 bill. Elliott at a lot and let our troops."

" I agree I'm that's all it needs to be done -- by the way that's what Obama's proposing. They won't do it but he's proposing to 6400 plus billion dollars out of Medicare. To pay for the new health insurance plan."

" And -- stupid trying I would get a good -- doesn't support the launch but he's good guy is gonna twelve small business and every individual health insurance policy. What brand new taxes -- listen to what gadget roundup that's -- the great ideas."

" It's all bigger government game -- say it seems I think you're right on that any 6172666. Seats sixty we are now corks are we take another call but he wanted to."

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" Gentlemen thanks for taking my call John what that a couple comments I mean those securities some of these young people know that it's not going to be there when we grow up so that's why we don't take you know the whole Social Security thing very seriously -- And then you know if somebody's gonna take economic -- one. I think that it should be the American people as a whole I mean the Republicans seem to say that. You know we have a problem we should cut welfare to fund more warfare. The Democrats say while we cut some more spirit is far more welfare while we --"

" Disney guy after my -- hot. Why -- we slowdown on everything even when we decide to go and a particular direction whether it's war whether it's welfare whether it's health care whether it's transportation. Let's be honest enough. -- Now last cells instead as Qassam the bailout to my kids in Santa yep that's what we called leadership back in my day we sent you the bill how would you shot. Absolutely positively plenty of room on both sides of the warfare welfare debate. To trim it back -- stats and will -- what we will we will get what we will wanna pay fought and no more."

" Well I thought to say because people between aged between thirty are not too pleased about the debt that are being incurred and are being."

" Well you should be upset about it but could I -- I will say one thing I think young people need to focus in on. In terms of the high birth hyperbole of the of the debate going back and forth and that is that. You eat you he dual wore bright we heard all kinds of banks -- the costs of the war. You -- and cheap fifteen years everybody's gonna look back to the Iraq War and sell Coca that was a little blip -- time you know fifteen years may -- or whatever glass and cost. One point three trillion dollars or never ends up costing. And you can look at it as something in the past in fifty years this healthcare thing. Will have probably. Sent the country into bankruptcy and will be you know we'll have somebody won't be the Chinese but somebody else will be. Paying our bill ignores a note in or if we're lucky enough to have anything to offer to the rest of the world in order to get the money what will cost out if they're saying it'll cost a trillion dollars a year and will it'll be a breakeven you'll probably cost. Three to four trillion dollars a year without any bit of savings -- put towards it anywhere else. And these deaths are going to crush and destroy us because the fort Charlie will become ten and twenty and forty and fifty and it's unsustainable. 6172666860. Senator Levin from Michigan has proposed. That we raise taxes to pay for the expansion of the Afghanistan war U four against -- 680 WRKO. --"

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" What you're doing the traveling all over the world -- couldn't premium voice. -- In a toddler on this topic of Collins idea that we should have been taxed to pay for the cost of the Afghan war by the way the Iraq War shouldn't."

" Thrown into this as well it's not as of the Costa expense. Associated with that walked. Has gone away and I'm really had pressed to think how anybody could be opposed to the notion of a nation that serious enough to be engaged in war sending young men and women off to die in uniform is not serious enough. About paying far I disagree that it. But his idea that he should only vote be applied to those who make it over 20250. That is just a nonsensical. Absurdity if -- is getting getting -- it's just."

" Until -- news that's a -- icon to support -- I have good news for a which is that the Carl Levin proposal taxing people who make more than 200 grand a year that's the Senate side. On the house side to David -- John Murtha and Barney Frank they'll have proposed an alternative pay for the troop increase in Afghanistan bill. It's called share the sacrifice act of 2010. -- and that would tax all Americans who make up 250000. Dollars a year with an extra percentage point. In mom comes 250. Got is also that first 150 after that I guess who would kick in the hires a dozen itemize it here in the store every Kyra but I thought everybody would be included at least in the first brush yup. So a more often that. Also been a much more often that there is something a little confusing about the anti war Democrats proposing to fund further war rather than to oppose. More -- you know I mean you know what they're. Up against the detriment to try to force -- retreat from the notion from the commitment to the war zone into the war. Policy that's what did trying to force yes but it might have the opposite effect might very well -- just start providing the money machine kicked in in a direct tax to pay for war you know. They think that's gonna -- out of our pricing I guess I don't know pass it on 72666. C 864 are against it I like the idea. Of cutting budgets in getting money there but there are some politically exciting things about actually having to go to the people ask for money when you do they -- by the way."

" Speaking of politically exciting stuff how do you think people around the world would react. If the American people through congress. Actually imposed attacks on themselves. And said we're serious about this war with serious about supporting our troops were not gonna put it off onto our kids in other generations. Do you know how what kind of chilled that would send -- to wear an appropriate chilled by the way. It would be oh my god I miracles are going America woke up from its silly. Infantile little dream world and decided to get serious as a nation. -- day you committed what planes and tanks and guns and bombs and what most importantly people American kids getting killed. And night is say you know what would not gonna do -- on the cheapen our kind of pretend we can do with a wink and blink we're gonna pay for are the people in China. The people in Iraq the people in Iran movie instead of a new era is over this iPod may -- our our home. Perhaps a little like what you can make this finally say America is rising to the leadership we always thought they had 6172666860. We've -- next on WRKO KJ and."

" I can't I do you -- what's up. Okay well walk we can't it'll walk because although it can't be and I -- him because we're trying just people are common criminal. Rebate whole idea that we're fighting over the -- so they don't come here and get one of them just pretty much blew up or."

" Genuine got a very interest and why we really should be sending the FBI over. Well but they can only do domestically CIA should be going in finding these people on the hills of Pakistan. And bring -- back -- That's an interest -- are what do you think -- she's right now how well I. -- spring and a little bit of cynicism and I understand us that the difficulties that we have with some of the about decision if you're gonna carry out sales -- philosophy of the Obama administration nowadays yeah that's not been entirely fit why bomber administration I disagree with the notion of Khalid sheik sheik Mohammed and a the for a five. -- try to the civilian court system I disagree that lots of people do but he can make an argument either way I say send Highway Patrol or related to this war one way or another we're going to be sent to spend and and sending excuse me at least -- another 20000. Maybe 40000 kids Barack might surprise you on us. Thanks yes I because I think doing that would be huge mistake for him and I think he smells that trap you don't yeah this should shouldn't be any more troops sent over. While we should start withdrawing we can't afford the worst stuff contreras and while okay so the so we -- an American president. He presides over defeat he's been seen to be less than effective on the international stage this is going to be a source of strength. Then instead people getting the sense that. This guy is like. This guy just is desperately wants to be popular so they'll give them the appropriate applause and the the -- Royal on a weekend of autumn all brings the troops somehow let them well. John your honor KO either."

" You know this whole thing with amonte and commit and going out of Afghanistan and not you know it's not just send in the troops over to a -- A crystal or anything it's for their safety and well being of everybody got started over there. And dad is reaching back to -- well civilian traffic in New York I'm sure about these guys being well read. But New York Times just this morning the front -- on the right column without New Yorkers -- group by RB Eric and New York. Any app decent where it's gonna they've got it Jerry."

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" I don't be convicted they'll never see freedom they'll never be outside of the jails -- again you don't put to death and is unbelievable I was trying to have a friend."

" And what is it bad bad bad may have backed the car but in the Antara what are the gonna take five years. Interviewing I doubt in jury members you know thirty million dollar --"

" No we were just call we -- earlier point I love that point John that -- I thought about this over the weekend okay so now -- in in New York they're gonna be a fin number of -- Muslims it's a big act of cosmopolitan city. So Muslim is a couple of Muslims may be on the jury pool right. If the prosecution excludes them. No one did discretionary allowances in terms of who you can exclude from the jury home -- almost automatically have a mistrial it's like -- router. A bit like putting blacks from major every -- doing."

" Yeah have a mix of yet they do and everyone out of -- behind them what -- be an infinite amount of fun. There are not connected if you're -- court -- pretty close up and if you could become. -- you wanna talk about Afghanistan in a quagmire."

" I know it's a very is essentially a circus atmosphere further proof of Barack Obama is the talk radio expansion program extraordinarily hot. It's unwelcome New -- York jail -- god I don't what's going on."

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" Erica does a basic got to tell -- about a guy like daily pay for it by cutting summer wasteful spending the president is proposing. There -- pay for universal healthcare by cutting Medicare. By upwards of 500 billion dollars a year."

" Let's not go on -- different suggestion get OK Dick Cheney excuse. All glamour out of dip arrange -- should be a bit Cheney -- did give the big story right that's spanned the oil Iraq."

" I didn't you actually had another together all right thank you that just sounds like a crime against morality. That's second -- you're NWR Cahill."

" You wanna try -- artistry -- A lot of the much as far as doing about finding the vote more troops in in Afghanistan. This was shuttle. -- civil war we had to go there this is national security. You know. Tommy Franks can end Donald Rumsfeld everybody said that they micromanage the war they didn't send enough boots on the ground -- may be true. The problem was I believe that the Taliban had a way out in -- that was into northern Pakistan. -- Sharpe was not gonna really a big get a -- they are in close up that negative for them and so we kept on putting on the pressure above that kind al-Qaeda. In that the Taliban were already crushed we need more troops in there because the only way to win this war in Afghanistan. Is by destroying the Taliban that's the only white."

" Hi how -- you destroy the Taliban the Taliban is not a thing. There is not a single entity that you can go find and destroy it there's no evidence -- numbers will do it because of what you just described we went in there to get rid of al-Qaeda al-Qaeda laughed at it why don't Minnesota I was -- I -- can get it to a pointer -- to raise point -- can get a to a point -- the Afghans. Can and will defend themselves from what happened nearly and that's essentially what you're trying to do you trying to prepare somebody who right now. It is economically militarily politically. Ill prepared they can't do it if we leave there's a vacuum that Jackie you know between -- and I'd I think -- expensive this is not Iraq this is not a country that accustomed to having a centralized government that ever had a centralized government. Or respects the process of government to tribal society -- no economic engine. I it doesn't have to be centralized however the model of the United States are really an Iraqi can be a loose confederation -- sought. Candy that are images that we're in new like we did in Iraq we're gonna build up this structures. Of the society in the security of that society so that we can then handed off to the central government to run. In Afghanistan has nothing to hand off this new military to or this new police to the government leader of the country can't even control the capital city forget of a controlled country so. Our imagery of what we're talking about has to be the put into the reality not in to some. Assumption about what Afghanistan is but. Just to go back to his point. We went there to get rid of al-Qaeda al-Qaeda -- now been gone from Afghanistan for seven plus years so we stayed there. While al-Qaeda. Ruins Pakistan and destabilize is that country they've got yet another leader who was in danger of being toppled now. I don't see how any of this is helping us are really down but anyway that's a side conversation. The question is should we be taxing ourselves this is a proposal on the table new taxes to pay for the expansion of the war in Afghanistan is that a good policy Steve what do you think."

" All right it's a wonderful all the good job I didn't say things like hey let's propose raising taxes debate are a -- about giving mortgages to unemployed people already -- cutting rat crap Bob and EO Don. Michigan are there why we have great taxes debate but they like that are really important like. Killing people and extremists and breaking things -- I want my government to do feel extremist and break thank."

" But any other on the principles on the principal Stephen whether it's the military you know -- breaking things in killing people whether -- other things we try to do is a government you sound good does appear sensible fiscal could have fiscally responsible guy will pay -- fall off whatever the hell it is. We decide we're gonna deal."

" It's. Time to dig it spent 800 billion whatever was does stimulate economy that didn't really need to mention raising any tax except on the ridge why do you have a problem with. Spending a a little that would have to -- pittance compared to what you spent. You know six months."

" I agree but everybody I -- that create a program is only a pittance in the scale of things and unless we get series since that -- that every one of those programs seriously an upfront. We're gonna continue to be allowed in stark and our currency is gonna go down the toilet. As well as on national power and prestige on the other hand I think all economists agree that you don't raise taxes on anything during this period of time you never increased taxes when you're trying to recover from downturn. You waited until recovery is well under way correct. A lot of economists would say that you right. And -- the idea raising any taxes so during this period is not but these guys are for higher taxes it's true their four. Killing the war in Afghanistan and they see a tactic. Ian proposing he created the hike in taxes as a way to energize the American people against expanding the war in Afghanistan I think in your next NWR KO."

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