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" Seeking every means a specific stage rather just I just wonder Todd -- have every day. Well these are trying to embrace everybody you appreciate life cook he's trying to be inclusive -- and a treat -- and you appreciate the beauty of life he's trying to celebrate diverse and a little sunrise some. It's a it's a very I know what did you just wake up. Let them over the well by the way it's yes it's not too late to some supposed to do it twice. Just dimensional you're gonna close the sire signals leaves -- to Steve's site a business report right on top of everything was brought to by the obvious strong advisory -- guys closed the DM. I'm a conversation -- so -- procedures kidnaps a thing from -- enough thank you to the -- strong advisory group we have to Steve -- now what you wanna talk about anyone else wanna thank. Well family members thank you for being here residual good way clearly anybody wanna thank -- although I found out that Karen -- mum passed the way over we started hearing that now. -- Have the details to remind black -- but I can you -- after the show paramilitary fusion correctional tease me tomorrow command with a -- tie down you'll say okay who died it's Karen Reagan's mum why you why do you put the time before the show though when you have to do you beat him for four hours. Why -- I. Holder that'd give us some sense of to respect to just a decency do you -- do you feel nothing Byron I don't know vain hope my I hesitated to give you don't give up -- I thought we are headed Syria so. This is."

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" Well I think yes of course it does I remember when that the African -- were brought to New York when I was met mayor of New York City. I was briefed on all of the additional risk of that would create for New York City that's when I had to close areas around the federal courthouse. And I had to close areas around a City Hall for which I was severely criticized. By the New York Times for making those closures as if I wanted to keep people. Out of City Hall I did it on the advice of the FBI and their city police department because of the additional risk to City Hall that was gonna be created by the by the -- terrorists that we're going to be tried -- New York City this should be in the late 1990s. Preceding. September 11 so. Anyone that tells you this doesn't create additional security problems of course is telling the truth and the best indication of this. Just look at the additional security that's going to be employed."

" Just a big -- Rudy is great on this stuff because. -- on -- when he talks -- he is a very straightforward guy I think on these issues you know and his background is such that it gives you a sense of confidence he raises any number of good points first of all the economic dislocation that will be created. Huge Lehman's future. There are a lot of money in -- on the one hand right. To a lot of people who going to be sitting around value making security evaluations and providing security on the other hand. If four blocks -- shut down in the in the city of New York for a variety of reasons that's economic dislocation. Very high costs associated with that economic dislocation and I asked myself Paul watched. This seems to me Todd to know -- what's your answer for purposes of moral law all political -- preening. -- this a political manatee and a moral vanity that goes with this all we're going to be different. Let's show the world does have some are -- of the world is going to be persuaded now. I think we should we -- we can -- should abide by the provisions of the constitution. The notion that this was clearly a judgment call that the Obama administration attorney general hold. I have to assume with the -- of the president made a decision we're gonna try KSM that's the only way I can get the name out to leak. Sheikh Mohammed -- whatever. K assembly of the four guys we're gonna give them the full range of a civilian. Trial. In these southern district of of New York. This is becomes did it first -- becomes a circus second of all it exposes I think intelligence gathering. Through to become a trial on waterboarding fourth the what is the other point they just mentioned economic and security costs. That will be staggering to be able to cheer for."

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" don't know about your saying that this is a cynical attempt to manipulate. You know -- of politicization -- to. Politicize. A changeup from the two -- they Volvo national security issue I ice I think it is and now I know that a president candidate candidate Obama when he was a candidate do you know up the -- Can put himself in this position and -- a little bit at the expense of the Bush Administration thought Guantanamo was. Absolutely fine and fifth congress by the way his reacted a couple of times congress not the Bush Administration -- bush Cheney and Halliburton. Congress reacted with -- at least two pieces of legislation they were serious responses to Supreme Court US Supreme Court decisions. On the balance of rights that are involved is so there's been a lot of legislation has been a lot of judicial. There have been a lot of judicial decisions on this thing. I've never been troubled by Guantanamo I've never been trouble and never look at that as a blemish. On the united state -- I I talk about the blemish it's a lot of hype I think what the gitmo -- it's just seems to me it's you know. And and by the way what if you're -- if you're an American ally if you are involved in intelligence gathering the if you are cooperative with us in this. Fight against global terror. What do you begin to think when you see the United States of America doing this. This type for re Silas had do you -- in do you actually dangerous cheese this is this is what I wanna expose my team to. It did their sources might be compromised information might be revealed. You know what a trial it's like oh my what the cross examination of these CIA people who would do in the waterboarding that's what I don't understand Muhammad was one -- a 183 times a -- and -- know what's gonna happen during the trial on."

" They all of the videos from almost all have to be clamps a moment to see if they unduly influence to what's going on here but this so that's part one of the sort part to a story is that. They wanna take as several of the prisoners from Guantanamo you know that Obama. Promise to close it by January but it'll probably take another year beyond January to get it shut down or maybe longer. Because they don't know what to do with these prisoners they wanna put some of them into a federal penitentiary your state penitentiary in. In Chicago and Jackson -- now a state penitentiary and they want I think was -- off blow out. The defense and they see no priceless opportunity and one of the arguments is all the jobs they say would create 3000 jobs if they -- always give no prisoners and is so this goes under the the stimulus program -- Jobs treeless saved -- ha -- I'm do you think this is a good stem program to create new jobs who we took all -- Guantanamo prisoners is couple hundred. Maybe the states could be hit for the and Helio fight over them. And then could bring jobs back into hopefully Massachusetts could get some of these prisoners. 6172666866. Are you impressed with the leadership here do you think it's being driven by good policy. Or is -- some kind of political pandering I question the political pandering thing because I don't see how Barack Obama and the Democrats benefit. By several years of trials of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and others. Being paraded in front of the media every day talking about how evil the US is in making New York City. -- focal point once again for a worldwide terrorism I don't see. How that works politically for the president but it may be the something I'm I'm missing rated morning your NW RQ with Thomas Todd."

" How Leo thank. Again here we go again another week of let's step by this administration I think this is the worst possible thing they could build. You know that -- where we -- going back to the Clinton Years where they treated this as a law enforcement problem. You know it there's been identified is -- war and Islamic terrorism that's what they did was call a spade a spade. By giving these people. Their time in court and now Manhattan I think does two things one this slaps. Slap in the face that -- the victims' families. Of 9/11. And so we're giving we're giving these guys. These same rights as an American citizen in court. This is going to be a trial basically the CIA Dick Cheney the Bush Administration because all the stuff is gonna come up. And if it's not gonna benefit -- you know -- this administration forget about -- not worried about pandering to our friends in the world. You have to worry about what public opinion there."

" He also his what I find myself Wawrinka -- you when you -- number good point tray and taught himself had set up the question by saying gee he doesn't see the political dynamic. I find myself wondering in an. Unfortunately cynical way. As to whether or President Obama and his team have done -- very close evaluation of the evidence and of concluded one. That convictions of virtually dropped dead certain and to. Death penalty will actually he knew what to his political benefit because of the -- convicted. And then there's a firing squad or whatever the American people will say you know what glory glory hallelujah. And that was new it to his political benefit it's still risky however because of this no certainty in a trial. No certainty whatsoever and what's the evidence even if the outcome comes all the way -- that you're -- is ignoring the fact it's gonna be two or three years of trials and the reminder all the time the Barack Obama did this thing that Americans don't agree with and refer reason we don't understand."

" I'm concerned about this fact that we we no longer believe the world war with Islamic terrorists when there're -- with us I see this whole decision making as part of the peace with. The failure to recognize. The acts of major dishonest acts of Islamic terrorism. The show you two -- two really make a decision quickly. On Afghanistan."

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" Good morning guys great discussion by the way and some are like guest speaker if you could. Define the -- or point so the language in the constitution that extension rights not citizens like college Sheikh Mohammad."

" Yeah I don't I don't think it does exist but I think what you head as the United States Supreme Court at least once if not twice. Rendered decisions that said what had been Donald was being done. Under Guantanamo. Was illegal if not unconstitutional then congress was reacting back and forth. I don't agree is that we have do feel any obligation political legal or otherwise any obligation to extend. What are clearly etched clearly recognized as American constitutional prison principles to non Americans particularly on non American. People have been described as theater combatants they've been on the field -- doing things abroad. There were hostile and indeed deadly to American forces."

" Well then mister speaker yet again you give me saw proof but I continue to do respect you much and -- my. Prior political leanings -- that --"

" Presented on the other bizarre thing about this is that they'd be the underlying premise of this is that there's something wrong with military tribunals but. They're still using military tribunals for other prisoners so the question his will more what's so special about a college Sheikh Mohammed that we want them in New York City. A mile away from September 11 which she supposedly orchestrated the attacks upon. Why do we want him there are being able to create theater in the American court -- experience which isn't built to handle. A terrorist -- planned attacks against his country from overseas and these terrorists who did public confessions with in the past what several months they just said yep sure we get away happened do we do it again if we could. Had none of them had been read the Miranda rights to my knowledge I mean Miranda rights on the battlefield can no magic got -- OK so he can hear your assault you and IS soldiers right we're on patrol blurb above we see this guy he's doin' this is too when that wouldn't go over read this -- and Miranda rights are gonna tries blow to blow is."

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" They don't at stake here they get trek out they wanna pander to their radical left when it."

" And they know that they can't literally just drag out Cheney and Rumsfeld are pushing change it's. Swat and the public liked her left wing base watched. So stick it out -- way to try to -- them so this the closest they can count."

" I tried it John I had argument makes sense until you think about what Tom said a minute ago and that is that they're gonna pursue the death penalty. And it presumably these guys will be convicted ending yet the death penalty is a sentence how does that affect the pandered to the left."

" While they'd just what he does not see he's got the left wing pandering without doubt by doing this by the public humiliation and assault on the former administration. But you also get support -- the rightwing base any particular writer option doubted that it got to talks. They are tough on crime out tough on terrorism I'll get the job that you and I did."

" Yeah I -- it might be political threading the -- with the other civilian trials is enough of a nod to the left base and the -- the convictions then slash the -- accused -- Are not so mainstream America says -- discuss not a -- Obama -- sounds like a -- in the --"

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" And I think most Americans are gonna think that this is a bad idea this is ideology of Toronto and while we're gonna go back to New York City. The scene of the tragedy on 9/11. We're not know -- there. Wide open -- stay open for like 234. Years. As we go through the surface of the trial. Gonna take 23 or four years well you never know I mean that's you can bet that. Folks that are going to be tried in their warriors are going to try to use this opportunity to extend it. As they can."

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" Speaking very effectively on this yesterday on face the nation on the idea that did the terrorists are gonna be tried some of them in New York City truck its insane. And it's hard to figure why the president is doing -- maybe it is some guy you know at the same time yesterday didn't he he got together the other world leaders and commits them to back off fun. Climate change legislation because he's lost the political clout to pass it. So he doesn't wanna be signing on to treaties. That'll come home and be a devastating. Interference with the reelection bids of of the democratic party congress next year. But he's got to back off from everything I don't see how we wins. By having terrorists being tried in New York City I don't see how he wins by taking -- and putting them in prison Chicago Ohio does that benefit anybody. Well -- you know back -- back from a Chicago this might be way to help bail -- the status that he scheduled by the prison probably. Create as at least as it as is alleged couple thousand job -- you know what I did they get -- Carville and I think the game five for Chicago's he's trying to improve the quality of the politician in Chicago. Any figures once a day after eighteen months or so when they let the terrorists out of prison then they'll be able to run for office and clean up City Hall. I. Prison reform leading to political -- off this street no -- City Hall that's all. Up 61726. XS six do you what do you think about this strategy of treating the terrorists some of them not all of them. Some of them won't go through the old -- military tribunals which are supposedly evil -- and some of them will be brought to the US to be accorded the full rights and privileges -- USA dishonest friend John from lol actually was very very -- very succinct tread on point if the what else is now the military tribunals are good for American soldiers. What the heck is the problem that everybody else who's involved in. Either the direct action or interaction with them are on the periphery c'mon give it a break when you place it's a good point. 61726666. Say this upset you and off. At all I mean -- people should be jumping out of their skin I would think about what this means about Barack Obama Kathy -- morning your NW RKO."

" Good morning. I think that. It that this whole thing is just totally in plain. We've spent the -- in the country any good formed together and go commit more terrorism and New York. You know they can. Bomb a court that they can do whatever they're -- until. But I think there's there's been impeached and upkeep to borrow and spend by the president the put New York get -- like bad."

" I guess I'm not quite sure reach the impeachment conclusion but I do think it -- interesting that tense the ratchet up the that you know those the circumstances surrounding this some VD I."

" I mean the main thing can happen that they could get up you know they could. Buying them -- still a bit they'll have so many right that the -- them though and it's just totally insane that they would take that chance. And not only that but the trial -- been that long that but many current acts that could be committed in New York because of the trial. And the Anthony mason might come vote prominent."

" It's very assisting the people get angered by this Cathy too -- I've heard some interviews with families of September 11 victims who are saying. Every day. Will be a reminder now of what happened to eight years ago I don't know -- every -- is not a reminder however Todd and anybody who went through than anybody who lost somebody on that day the 3000. It's one thing to have -- part of your heart and something you have to think about every day because of the pain it causes it's another to have the outside world pushing -- all the time. And then having it being in in being in the nightly news and on the front page of the New York Times or your Larkin. That's much more cute it seems to me a reminder. Of what went on and plus a trial for an for an infamous defendant. Becomes a big PR event is the other of the media is gonna -- be given Sarah -- treatment to our college shake -- public well EI mean they'll be some of that that'll be mixed bag has the media know -- I mean there's no one particular perspective that the media had so we'll have. On this I I don't know I do find it hit straight kicks head shaking and I think represented a park struck. From Michigan. Nailed that I do think it's the triumph of ideology 6172666. -- sixty here's what I'm curious about. They EU Tommy even fall back on this being a political contrivance that it's a manipulation on the part of Barack Obama and I'm wondering why it. Everybody else thinks is this political manipulation or does Barack Obama actually believe. This is the right thing to do. And if if you're on this side of him actually believe in this the right thing to do why isn't he -- all the terrorists why busy just doing it. With some of his favorite -- I -- as I yellowish try to be on the show every morning hey I try."

" I wanna be open to the information if this somebody else did perhaps this so you know some of some attorneys who work of some of the big firms here in Boston I have. Relationships with other friends that have done some of the defense work so called on behalf of these prisoners presented the petitions to the US Supreme Court I -- won those cases for some folks in terms of the Supreme Court decisions. I'd love to hear the distinction because I think judge raised a good one civilian trials for these notorious rivals actually confessed are attempted to confess. There are a couple of times already. And a military tribunals for others all of them being held on a Guantanamo I've just never ever ever been troubled at all by the notion of Guantanamo somehow some type a blemish on American constitutional principles."

" plan that cut. No six once I just set up follow we have it. We have a -- of Senator Obama before he was elected president saying that doctor Khalid Sheikh Mohammed -- military tribunal."

" The vast majority of the folks in Guantanamo. I suspect are therefore a reason. And I think don't want a dangerous people. Particularly dangerous of people like Khalid -- mama. Ironically most of the guys are gonna get. Real military procedures because they're going to be charged by the government."

" That was when his clothes were tighter I think his voice was a little higher at 61726666. In before he got us southern accent. That's President Obama talking in the old days about Mohammed getting military tribunals -- candidate Obama or Senator Obama -- one in the sand because as soon as you go to the center reduced unemployment presidential -- so what's your feeling on this we've got Richard coming up next NW RQ good morning Richard."

" Good -- you don't go to Bob. I'm fully against -- combatants to the mainland -- to a point that I haven't heard. Anybody bring up. Number one is how would you like to be part of the jury pool I mean how would that affect your family. And the second part is -- stricter promote and now for reconstruction period I mean they're just marking up this. It is the truth if it could -- great."

" you know the jury pool once the jury -- one is a great. Question. One because of you know the exposure in the risk. To the individual juror and his family to again economic. Dislocation. So we you know what you do you -- employer and say are gonna be data for the next two and half three years you know on trial out of the federal resort area -- up there relative positions anyway every -- still continue to to eat you see a -- set on 72666860. Good politics of good policy what do you think Tim."

" Well I think it's dangerous it's scary risers so I saw last night -- deepen his own. Syria -- all goals for the risky forced out conversely what's the worst that can happen you know bring -- New York go. We'll try airmen and well -- before I'm guilty and all's well that didn't work too well for the -- last night."

" No way you can look at what Belichick decided last night in say. He had two options new -- which was good one trying to go for fourth down to try to get a first and the other. Handing the ball over with two minutes to play to the other guys who could move the ball that well. So now you could argue because he it didn't work out that it was a dumb decision but if you if you back up a little bit of put yourself in his shoes you can understand. I can't understand. All I I don't know what the argument is. That you would put forward that says this is good for Barack Obama for Democrats for. There -- attempted did different develop their credibility as Zogby and tough on crime or tough on defense. -- I don't know where the argument this I don't do expect we'll continue when we come back let's get your opinion that 680 WRKO."

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