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" Broncos -- from the new balanced world headquarters building. The news here is -- Hollywood horror -- starting tomorrow we're gonna pick Trenton up that we are gonna turn it upside down. I'm telling you. There's a bright future ahead for New Jersey if we stay focused on the things that matter in people's lives and I guarantee you. I'm gonna do that for the rest of my life working with all of your for the thank you could."

" Eight months ago I applied for the job governor Virginia tonight you have fired me."

" Just because we didn't get the right result tonight doesn't mean we get to go home why. We've got to keep working."

" Regard. They -- ever read that today. For a learn word. A lot did. Took fifth. Historic term this is not the end movies and it hurts presented. It was not. Now how the long -- I don't know yeah -- I just want to make me a break we'll come off color guard W arterial radio network."

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" For participation -- 774694322. When those elections going to be held do we hear so much about. I know well but look picks it's good enough for the president's good enough for me. Be watching something on HBO."

" Which reminds me that the -- line was true get to later on. Has a phone number 6177793469. In probably should have some good grist for those mills given. What is taking place in the last 24 hours. And we're losing you want email -- Nelson at wrko.com. We begin. With how -- Brought to you by -- long although the Cadillac of Cadillac dealers. Features an outstanding selection of new and pre owned cadillacs homers and sobs. -- online at long auto dot com or in person. On route nine in south or. Send you our poll question today it asks the White House says the president did not watch last night's election results do you believe -- that's why letting you share that was a segue because -- remove those elections anyway. I'm cool casual about it do I believe him yes. I I just find it too high don't like to call people liars. But I find it too hard to believe that so the answer is no. So say 89%. Currently doesn't surprise you got there has losing nine. -- was the one concern we have about the poll question is really note if you would get below 99 but some people do believe. This by the way it was a natural -- making this selfish was announced by the Press Secretary. My mission hips you've no doubt seen him. He's not watching returns. That's the quote. Gibbs said. And telling me a break here. I'll tell you something this a good place to beginning your thoughts are welcome. An -- it's hard to believe Tyre Karl Rove say even in the west wing in numbers each and every president watches -- look here's a man who it when he campaigned. Three times for Corzine made five stops -- the three time he campaigned for deeds. He's just got to be interest in which coupling a ton -- Lewis who Warren. Directly involved were interest is -- to believe that he was up there -- some now watching the TV. Supposedly. About his campaign which in -- with the image right up my campaign is more important than. These little guys filling around for governor anyway our authority elected to a due to make. But anyway so he was watching I wonder I'll I assume by now somebody stole them. If you didn't watch. And what's interesting about this comment from -- by Gibbs the allegation. The statement. That he's not watching returns. First of all it is just incredible that is to say it's not believable. Worse if it's true. If it really is true that Barack Obama is not watching the returns what does that say either. That he really doesn't care about the process is contemptuous about it is above it all. Or. That he's disconnected from it and doesn't care what's going on neither one of bush makes any kind of sense at all. War is flattering to the president. We expect the president to be involved. Much better -- and they just said well. We're disappointed in the results war even try to put some positive spin on it. Saying that well you know after all we won in New York 23 and toward to nothing to do with the President Bush course what they are saying that to -- to pretend that they somehow. Not into it and all that. He would have been watching the returns of the Democrats were winning. Big loss for the Democrats and a couple places. In Virginia. New Jersey. Is remarkable because it is such a democratic state and the president candidate what 1516. Points into a twenty point turnaround. Because the Leo winning candidate he got 49%. -- polish poster on in order for a twenty points and -- who have gotten more third party candidate weren't there. This just remarkable. That that could have happened. What's interesting also is our memory just a year ago you do to. All pundits were writing about in talking about the demise of the Republican Party. It's dead from -- never come back. There was in the globe must a couple of weeks ago and now this launched greed by written written by. Whose name Neal Gabler -- or -- learn some like. I'm just ineffective decrying the Republican Party declaring it the lunatic fringe -- finish any work long. -- ordinary Op Ed piece in a newspaper and 700 words this one ran 1400. And what's interesting is how far off it -- and I'll tell you there's a danger now. And that is -- go the other way rather Republican party's on the rebound the Democrats are on the ropes it's all that and just when you think. That niche carved in marble with politics which card new water. Political fortunes change very quickly especially in this age of mass communication. This is an example that. No we are all speaking at the microphone. Reaching thousands of people on the Internet people are going connecting one way the other hundreds of television channels and number of them are related. To the news in communication. Information and opinion moves very quickly and therefore. That makes the electorate quite volatile. And so the issue that was clearly the hallmark of the future in 2008. Is now in the rearview mirror in 2009. The Democrats may mistake the Republicans made you know four. The -- we change that a little bit. They may make the mistake that the Republicans. May -- for I think they actually did make the mistake in a way that the Republicans made in 04. Republicans robberies no lead reelected to the White House he had gained some house and senate. But they won a lot of operations by a very small margin. She took a look at the election map and look like all big victory. But small changes in most of those traces would have gone the other way. -- happened you know wait a number of races were very close. You can look at a large result. But it's converting on now -- individual races. I think the Democrats -- caught up in power in good shape now. Republican -- not to make the same mistake. -- got a couple election victories that death is premature. This country is a center right country the most tradition polls I've had is that I've seen it. Has the conservatives being. And people identify themselves as conservative being 40% people identify themselves as liberal 20%. Course that leaves another 40% to -- neither camp. Sure there's a lot of work to be done but one thing we can stop doing stop apology apologizing. Backpedaling. I mean concerned about the results. We should talk about New York 23. And then we'll go that -- before you do that but I wanna make a point however that this victory. By the Republicans who was a lot broader than just people atop the ticket. Yes the gubernatorial races in Virginia and New Jersey went to Republican way. And put in New Jersey in the Virginia. All. The top. -- is the top positions on that ballot went to the Republicans and downstate in the lower racist. There was called house of delegates equivalent two. They House of Representatives in most stage sure the assembly in New York Republicans made gains. As I understand that they had 53 out of a hundred. And now they're gonna have 6061. And this one racial and decided it was a much broader and deeper shift. He wasn't just. A couple of guys at the top of the ticket you can't just say well Corzine had problems -- deeds had problems in New Jersey it was deeper than that these deeper than that. Got an email from someone who said last night. This is from -- new York and and -- she generally not a Republican strong golf. Last night we successfully dumped our democratic mayor our entire democratic social and at the county level. And entrenched corrupt Democrat. I'm hoping that Obama and his plugs in DC you're taking a cue from what happened in New Jersey and Virginia -- happened even. You know in New York in Iraq. Okay your -- are welcome to get to. New York 23 and some of the other ramifications of what's going on and in terms of the discussions here from. From people who are supposedly in the know would more important from people who are the ordinary folk who make these things happened still -- democracy and it is motivated. -- The vote shy of the people we the people have spoken. If you're just tuning in -- Nelson in for how we car and we have started. This afternoon. Perhaps not surprisingly with the impression of political results that took place as a result of voting issue a invite to join with -- phone number 877. 4694322. And we go first to chuck chuck good afternoon -- of the icebreaker thanks for being the first call."

" Are you doing general. Straight. I open up -- Maine in the the governor and legislature. Passed staff. You know. They. Same sex marriage. "

" Yeah actually turned turned on the radio getting NFL can."

" Okay this they had sex very. So the people overturned. Third dirt that -- out of one point two in the good -- goodies that'll be just suggesting that it's horrible and garden. And he said about people of Maine. Because we overturned it he says well he said you give people a -- the full story -- just slavery doses are."

" The slowdown Willis Ali was only your WO won't Larry King yeah yeah it's on love remarked yeah really all about -- yeah yeah. What I'd like Simmons and back to Minnesota."

" Right I've ever heard nobody ventured this. And I as a veteran member of the proud American legion VFW with the rest -- world is this you hit these people keep saying it well all. This Obama's gonna grow in your. You know he's -- this job. Well excuse the view of the president of the United States US. Boom the job of the commander in chief. If by the navy ship of the United States of America actually you don't make excuses. Which you're gonna grow -- that you're never sure."

" Do you imagine chuck touched for calling its -- out of Obama's listening issues not a this is not on the job training here. Which must be ready Ford. I'm not no not that and mature than other relations the other so called gay or homosexual marriage -- remained. Fortunately got brought up let's mention that because that -- on the mound that was on the ballot in that did go all the way of the people who are opposed. Two gay marriage. 53. To 47 is the number than I have in terms of percentage and that means now. That's 31 states in a -- Have rejected. Same sex marriage. That's around the room remarkable run I mean what area where do you stand on enemy we can get the into the question philosophical question of whether right or wrong. But nonetheless to have that kind of a track record. In America and I don't know many other certainly no party has that I don't know of any other issue that's done. -- emotion to chalk up a record like that somehow this whole question about marriage. Has stopped being very responsive chord on both saw that you get very upset either way. I do notice the most of the articles about this were talking about the losing side I've got one in front of me from the Associated Press. Injection fuels ballroom after gay marriage vote. I don't I didn't come across any article it to jubilation filled all filled walled room. Among the other people who put on the winning side. 8774694322. By the way -- line again to get to later on the program 617. 7793469. And the email address a Nelson at WRKO. Dot com. Go back to line to go and actually rally good afternoon how he."

" Well how are you I don't know one of your campaign workers so many years ago having."

" Well it goes back a little bit."

" here in fact they kept derby. But do little blue. Here but it super great if record or comment I mean I think. And if they're being extra blood letting our -- come and speak no matter what strike if you look at the city of New York. Where Mayor Bloomberg expect Kmart to -- reality poked. Spam to wait you're app I actually could break it under all the voted to out of quote he sped up irate million dollars keep barely got by."

" Yeah I totally -- I think he won 51 to 46 super. And that's our call. They both had brought it over half a million votes something on the order. So then you're right about -- hundred million shall we can do the arithmetic isn't what it what it cost per vote the guy is supposed to be worth -- Bloomberg seventeen billion. And so you know hundred -- seventeen billion minus a hundred million equals seventeen billion right you know -- noticed -- his bank account."

" Well illustrated cover I think what you're saying is an anti incumbent are anti government. Saying rather lower -- across the country upstate New York I think -- we have the but that aside. But look at Virginia air and you look at the church piano injured quite well. I mean I'm shocked about cores are losing. But if you look again back to New York City. But mr. Bloomberg very in this regard his third term -- also vote to win it's got to say something. For next year confirming very very interesting. I think people -- just. Police set up within Coventry who would that would do that we had deal I think it could repair itself voted 2000 instead of."

" Randall CNN that some thoughts on that thanks for the ideas how we appreciate and that's not how he carved by the rich are different how -- The only talk about incumbency is a factor I didn't seem to be showing up I mean take a look for example in Boston. You know the mayor was running the incumbent mayor was running for a fifth term. Which is like a forever term. And he won you won by fifteen points 5742. All figured out the secret of why menial one. Nobody knew he was saying. -- they they -- you well know the other guy is saying some things they disagree with -- There -- many you know one power -- so who voted for. But -- an -- and I'm not sure that this and by the way in turning the engine pulls no people were concerned about issues that did not seem to me. This statement that well -- slowly in coming out. And in Virginia of course that didn't apply because each neither of them is an incumbent Coleman governor anyway. 10 -- I think good luck trying to remember one of the three in Virginia who -- was an incumbent. The real thing to point -- with Bloomberg is he got the law changed. So he could run for another term. And I suspect there's a fair there was a fair amount of resentment. About that. That the people -- to -- throwing money around too much. Even though he's really good mayor I don't think he should do that and that probably resulted in. More support for the opponent and then one would have expected ordinarily. But boy that's a lot of money hundred million dollars for mail or mayoralty race. Nice to deny ever -- nice have a hundred million dollars has to throw around that he expanded you don't even notice that you spend it. The billion by the way is a thousand million -- 17000. Millions. -- am getting rid of -- one for over the course of the campaigns. No matter much. 8774694322. There's a phone number. Among Nelson -- rally car and send do we go to another phone call -- do we go to a break. We already shell will be back on the other -- don't go away. You'd like to join in the conversation and love to have you this is -- our program."

" Welcome back on the Nelson in."

" Rally -- this afternoon the day after Election Day your thoughts and reactions are welcome. Our phone numbers 8774694322. More if you prefer 877. Howie Carr. The jumped number is 6177793469. And the email address a Nelson at wrko.com. Just won't go right back to the telephone lines is the day for people took to -- express themselves in battle for the ocean view word and Democrats. And you want to give eight different take on this final means we're in the same -- But do you know you don't have to agree with what's being said here."

" Well -- mentioned that we heard from howling not not the last caller -- how he caught. Who actually called in from Italy. And we inviting him to come on the program. But. Just about that moment dinner arrived and that was that he was distracted he was -- reason Arizona going by that he's. He apparently is having a good time. And may not docking cardinal law -- then you photographed by the way you've been hanging outside the cardinal law's residence in the VATICAN I'm sure the cardinals have been you know now he's in Italy from the same country should get Swiss guard terrorism. -- Okay 877469432. Q how if you some are listening via streaming. Not a good trip come back when you can't. Okay let's go back to -- to your next to Robert good afternoon Robert."

" Known. Most interesting night last I can't believe the president said he wasn't paying attention."

" Well you know he was watching himself on tell you believe that wasn't paying attention isn't really wasn't watching."

" So why I think. Doing and saying things like this this continue to destroy his credibility."

" I can't just the other. I don't know if you're gonna hire -- we understand it was a bad night for the president that night for Democrats we've all been through that you know as a Republican and had bad nights do. So okay you know on the face -- but to pretend that you know. Collection -- election the watching a movie."

" I don't question why is -- that Republicans so quickly and so easily fall on their swords. And bill that would look 3%. Swing in votes you can bet your bottom dollar Democrat would be holding out who the next day. And ask you for a recount. And keeping it up until he made the numbers work out."

" which which really come -- New York 23 yeah well. I feel first of all. There was a five point difference just about the same amount who actually four point Jewish 4945. Was the final. And these these guys a father. The one who supposedly dropped out she got 5% of the votes that would've been. That would have been the different -- supposedly dropped out she dropped out. The reason -- supposedly dropped -- is because your name was on the ballot in fact I think it was and he ballot -- well I understand that but that's why that's why I sheds little drop out really a big yes -- no she got six for a -- blow up -- right -- that well like I can't send me I'll go along with the audience understands exactly what I -- when I -- supposedly -- allegedly dropped --"

" Well for future reference I think to be looking very closely as you have to be ballot that risk. We look go to one here in Vermont. The last elections -- over a hundred somewhat absentee ballots that we couldn't find those people we have the election."

" That's the you mean they were really absentee ballots until it's senator."

" Major and and there was a report the other day that the third in one of those precinct. The Democrats did not want the town clerk could check the signatures on the absentee ballot. To see if they matched the one on file they just wanted to look at the address. The address for the say -- we should take the boat. We're building both men and women have died for the right to vote in the sanctity of the vote. And we've made it like dancing with the stars and anybody want to vote early often and."

" Well let me tell -- you know just because someone concedes doesn't mean that. That that's the way the vote gets counted if they continue to count the votes. And it turns out. Owens lost and Hoffman won in in this 23 district in New York so Hoffman will be the congressman whatever regardless of what he says. Joy he's not taking himself I just by saying it but I don't think that's gonna happen -- you know your point that some other Democrats hold on to the bitter end and demand a recount. They may be a different psyche between Democrats and Republicans but. I'm not sure that we can find a winning differential in the New York 43 anyway thanks thanks -- the -- the well let's talk a little bit about that these Gaza -- who except for -- east sort of drop down. But was on the ballot and had more votes than the difference between the other two candidates. Which remarkable is how she got nominated in the first place. They're poorly engineered opens a step back. The incumbent congressman Republican. Topped by the Obama white couch to be secretary of the army some say cynically sell. Hello how they would have four cashed it in advance that a district they've been Republican since the civil war was not gonna become Democrat that's harder to say. Canadian when he leaves. Lee County chairman of the party get together and interview the candidates. They choose. These Gaza fob -- Who is an assemblyman assemblywoman. In the assembly in New York he's equivalent of the House of Representatives like state where. I hit somebody honey Cho sure is beyond me why he -- Mean here's somebody who okay she's she's voted occasionally correctly on fund and so of the tax issues."

" But. She was supportive of same sex marriage. Is close to the -- labor unions that are course very democratic. Had been in favor of the economic stimulus plan was in favor of cap and trade and cap and tax help -- proposal but for energy. We -- in favor of card check you know that abominable. The proposal. Where you no longer have a secret ballot with regard to unionization. -- get content people looking over your shoulder. As to whether or not you're gonna sign the card. This is shown to me. Like a representation. Of what is it pretty conservative Republican districts to I don't know how they chose -- Anyway they did. And then some conservatives got together. Consider this -- represented us there isn't New Yorker Conservative Party. They ended up with this guy who still a month ago was unknown for -- reason when you hear him speak. Who are clearly that he is too wide he was unknown. And also not of the blue he makes a remarkable run. But he fell short -- there were some luminaries issue came -- How we don't have the clip but I watched him on on functions is often meaning in his concession speech. They talked about you don't have to be polished and you know have to be -- we used to were articulate without in effect of the paraphrase toward. And did in order to make a difference in and be effective in politics and you know he was wrong. You do have to be those things to be ineffective candidate. Had this guy who was. This guy was a somebody who. Who clearly. Was uncomfortable. And an ill prepared for being on political stage especially. Very very. -- donated stage it became more in this race took on a eight character that goes beyond an ordinary congressional race. That's one of the reasons that I think he. Was unable to win. Well it doesn't diminish the effort it was a remarkable effort in anybody on the Democrats side it gonna take some kind of consolation that this was a statement that people. Now I gotta keep in mind that -- a father after she withdrew. Threw her support to the Democrat. Because hopefully you bizarre you could write a play if you wrote fiction you should minute additions are fictional story to me a made for TV movie. They've rejected should not -- I would never happen. She's actually got some kind of leadership position to in the assembly on the Republican side I don't know why she's gonna survive on me she should be voted out. Anybody who. Is going to be treacherous enough there when you'd withdraw from the race you throw your support to the Democrat when your Republican. -- the other way around -- just certain rules of the road here there are aspects of the Cold War and you gotta be with your guys. He you don't do that the poor -- it sounds like -- yes you really poorly and we should helper becoming poorer and more losing loser -- night Nightline. You know I don't happen. Anyway so this whole thing eventually went down to defeat and the Democrat is elected with for the 49% of the vote. That race will be run again. In a year. And Don we should see whether the Democrats. Can can hold. The seat. -- if any thing is a stable when you have such a weak candidate coming out of the blue and such bizarre circumstance is the fact he got that close. Is. I think a stable and then in favor of the strength of the conservative movement and ideology to -- the flip side this is Barack Obama. Actually candidate. Good candidates skills speaks well smooth articulate which Hoffman was not. Unfortunately. That make -- good candidate but not -- show hourly. A good president Huntsman probably would have been good congressman. He just was not a good candidate isn't probably your system. That the skills required to be a good candidate are only tangentially related to the skills required to be a good officeholder really office."

" Well listen exception to your -- there Joe Lieberman. We're about and had zero charisma the man has none of my door Joe Lieberman who has it is."

" Zero for nine great legislator he has zero -- not that bad candidates are heating Armageddon that's why -- Chrysler vice president the United States regime they know they're great legislator and nobody really cares about the bottom half the -- compared to half then the -- he's ignoring her. Anyway let's go back to the line says for those of you want to opine on this by all means 877. 4694322. Is a phone number. Rob -- next good afternoon Robert."

" I I Abby are today. I have 2.0 one is just a cursory remark about Bloomberg and his change in the election you know the chairman -- If -- Obama remarked on him being able to pull our not so don't be surprised if Obama doesn't try to change."

" Hot hot hot you know it's a mile run for a third term -- they tell you Sunday Robert I. I hope that he doesn't have that numerical challenge to worry about because I hope they won't be a number two let alone a number three."

" The other mainly kept my callers well I don't always look at it for generic New Jersey they'll be took into consideration and you sit all of the things that favorite it's down. Got a positive us in favor of who was also a favorite -- on an Akon -- yeoman effort. To pull off the baloney that went on in that district -- in New York try to also I don't know if you are aware right herded. On the new once -- twice in that would hit in the fact ballots had been impounded and central court. To be counties and -- priest thinks we're not gonna let out there recent results are any information on there I think --"

" I I heard that spiral around but I don't have a story on it so somebody has it okay yeah you're right to the work. -- questions of shall we say regularity."

" Get -- so Al Franken. All over again what a great."

" Nice gap fly it all final thing as I say if you would come up with this is a script. For a made for TV movie -- a novel. With this as the plot line you would never fly this it was really bizarre just a bizarre confluence of circumstances. And hey look. The democratic -- Rick yeah exactly correct I -- draw. In the end result is there's another another vote for Obama in the legislature with regard to whatever. Whatever bad bill they will propose. Another cabin tray and other health bill which is still pending. Those million results and we have to take the the good with the bad military overall I'd sooner have one now as a Republican. The gubernatorial seats in New Jersey and Virginia. And Lou's New York 232. Out of three. In those regards not too bad. -- Nelson you're in tune with how he car program. Welcome back this is Don Nelson in rally car phone numbers that you should be interest in with regard to this program. He likes to call and enjoy what they say just some people have and we'll go back to launch 8774694322. For those who -- One can join in -- line who didn't watch the election because you're watching a movie. The phone number 6177793469. And the email address is a Nelson at wrko.com. Royals go back to the telephone lines 8774694322. Or 877 Howie Carr. Alex your next on the program good afternoon Alex."

" Editorial. This actually what are but I have spoke all this year ever seen it at all sort of field it profit from it --"

" Just say again Alex that you will understand you."

" Dictator. Excerpt corporate Democrat or what you feel better of the -- and still Republican leadership. Yeah."

" Each I guess it must be something in the connection at all by the Republican leadership. We lost Alex. Well sorry. You know I know it was an accident. Another makes you politically in -- politically incorrect thing. No no no an accent I said I even an action -- and I -- that too. It was an accident that we Austin where he lost us anyway. Alex she's you if you can call back from -- if you go in and if you go to school it'll bid for pronunciation that would be better. Now Sharif that is just got a guy couldn't understand what he was saying if other people could please call in and give us an interpretation. -- instead we'll go to Steve good afternoon Steve. Here -- next on now Barbara."

" I would say that they did their incumbency isn't necessarily the problem. Excessive incumbency is the -- the week."

" Well how do you explain what -- it should be but it isn't the new of people in the US senate who in the effort for decades right. Ted Kennedy how long is John Kerry being in you know over quarter -- sure yet abruptly."

" Robert Byrd you know I mean the list does unhappy. That it doesn't incumbency is a breed of politician. They -- hope only to themselves they don't open keep."

" That's sure of I would admit that sure -- all of them just because some of them they get longer most of them want to make it longer but for reason or another something intervenes."

" Wow well but fools that they set up for themselves through through chairmanships street. True true it incumbent service two years -- all service can't let them to collect -- under the airbase."

" You know that you back and not knowing that when people talk Garagiola itself term limits who we're not gonna get term limits because the people who have to vote for that. To change law are the very people who were talking about they don't want to term imaging Barney Frank once term limits."

" Well well. Actually it's worse than that because. They could no longer go make voting a requirement for every citizen over the age of eighteen in this country. But they don't because they know if everybody votes they have no way to control the bad."

" Always initially -- to think voting is all right don't forget also should be something that you would choose to exercise and."

" I actually I believe they're a bit excessive in policy has led to a very soft well. In this country is real problem right now."

" It's very hard to defeat incumbent that's why what happened in New Jersey is rather remarkable because most of the time incumbents get reelected that's why you don't put people in the in the US senate for thirty years and in the legislature for an indefinite periods of time."

" It's it's a problem with the voters. Have hey it's improbable was all of us. To a shocked boat we we know it and you know maybe we don't know grade school committee but we've stroller Republican lever we broke a Democrat lever because that's what we do -- the -- boat."

" She gave thanks for calling you know there's another thing too and I would be in favor this I even suggested to a legislative -- fat chance. I think we ought to get rid of incumbency. As Adams who was something that is mentioned on the ballot. Shouldn't be incumbent standing for reelection not effect wouldn't it that I did Euro party labels. You go there are their names on the ballot could simply use a voter find out in advance. What these people are all about who they are if you don't know then let's say you're voting regularly. But just -- rubber stamp map."

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