Prospect Hill Charter School

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" I think it now he likes it better when he's -- latest scam them when they are chart -- I. Up and ask for the note can we talk a great deal -- Charter Schools because they are a great opportunity for innovation. In the schools and with some Massachusetts and the rest of the country. Struggling to find ways to improve public education charters have provided a great opportunity. So we are regularly discuss an -- is one of those days Chad leopard is joining us he is ahead master. Of the prospect hill academy which is a charter school located on three campuses in Cambridge and Somerville. Does K through twelve right -- that's correct and you I went to visit last week and it's just. Beautiful inspiring place to be so I thought it appropriate that we discuss it further and educate mister speaker a little bit and education. I always always good to do that should a general come to the endorsement very very shortly I think he knows what's going on in this town jet that wire Charter -- important from your point you've spent your whole career you came out of out of college and basically went into the charter school this is -- that's correct."

" Charter school legislation was passed through the education reform Acton Massachusetts in 1993. And made upon graduating from college I was a founding teacher at one of the first ten Charter Schools in the state. But I top four six years from 1995. Until 2001. And then night transitioned after a year of studying how to get principal. And became the head of the upper school hospital academy 2002. And has since I assume the role of the head of the so why are courageous about 2829. Years old maybe. I became a prince of what when he. Nine years you -- low that I alone that. That's occurring is goods goods and I was qualified yes. What we are curious push a major end undergraduate school whatever and then what drew you to the challenges well as -- up the opportunity that is -- with the gonna teach at a charter school. Well my major in college was American civilization which is through hybrid between American history in American literature -- I always knew I wanted to be a teacher. I'm one of those rare birds who even as a kid sort of new and I wanted to be when I grew up. It's like you went to. My undergraduate. With the intent of pursuing a teaching degree so in addition to. Majoring in America civilization and I also was in the teacher education programs and then became certified to be an English teacher. What inspired me it took up pursuit Charter Schools wasn't mostly a case of fortuitous timing when my professors at the time was leaving. To become one of the founders of one of the new Charter Schools. In Massachusetts and asked me to come along with them. And had a really unique opportunity to. Teach for six years of follow the first cohort of students from the time. They were in sixth grade until licks are input from the time they were in seventh grade until they graduate from high school -- and put them for six years. And unlike many teachers who leave the profession because they are. Demoralized are disillusioned. Or depleted to the contrary I was energized and I felt like my next move was to assume a more. Formal leadership role in the school as well as to see if I could I make an impact in an urban setting. So did you think it was about being in charter school that you felt energized well so many other people -- getting out of the business after fears are such as your passion for the business. I think it's mostly my passion for the business -- Like you said in my whole career has been Charter Schools and so. -- certainly. Benefited from the autonomy is a Charter Schools have in terms of really innovating in the realm of public schools. "

" It seems to me that when you having answered your school last week. The powerful thing about church schools is the ability to create a culture that's so different whenever I walk in a public school if feels like it's the same public school. They've they've got the same five they have the same smell the same energy going on. And when every owner charter school each one is unique. And then I think that entrepreneurial aspect is a very important thing -- you I do well let's be clear though that Charter Schools are public schools. And yes I think I think that by definition Charter Schools are afforded a kind -- economies and allow. Teachers and and leaders to adapt to the needs of the of the community through the structures -- the programs that we offer. -- can you hire anybody you wanted to be a history teacher math teacher or do you have to go off off. A pre approved pre approved pool. You know regular public school teachers there's agreement and just wonder initially -- when he needed to your your message -- prospect -- How do you go about hiring that person and what to what -- credentials do you insist that could Todd command. Private sector guy all those lives so and so forth but has a passion for history a math and you say. I get confidence in this Todd -- he's gonna -- that math class around. The answer to that is not."

" Entirely simpler. There's sort of a contradiction between the federal legislation which his government -- No Child Left Behind. And the state requirements so initially went Charter Schools were. -- authorized in the mid ninety's. The idea was that Charter Schools could hire anyone. To teach so who better -- teach physics than a practicing physicist who better to teach art then and practicing artist. But with the passing the No Child Left Behind there's this there's provision called the highly qualified provision which requires that that teachers. That's that. Possess a certain number of credentials. -- It it it that's one of the ways that one can be highly qualified there are other options yes other options so there are ways to get inside without haven't -- go through the traditional certification there are but we do believe that. There is some speed and skill that one can learn by studying how to be -- teacher -- to do in the realm of pentagon -- that that. Just because someone is is adept at mathematics at doesn't qualify. Her or him to -- in mathematics teacher there's knowledge of adolescent development. There's knowledge of of the assessment and an instruction all of which we feel. Make for effective teaching. And so it's a generally at MI school. We. Require that teachers become certified within one year of their higher. -- and you know there's a there's a an examination called the Massachusetts test. For educational license sure which teachers have to pass a series of those tests in order to become certified. I wouldn't say with great confidence that there's a huge correlation between. One's ability to pass those tests and one's ability in the classroom. But nonetheless it those servers as the a standard in terms or people's knowledge base."

" Certainly got baseline. What's hard about Charter Schools -- why they're better which I think they are you might not say that they are I don't know how you feel Tom if you think they're a better school inherently. I think so because of the freedom given to make something unique happened and also because Charter Schools if they stink don't sit around forever so there's an -- natural. Weaning process that takes place where is bad public schools are encouraged to. Reproduce and and and stay in in in effect for as long as possible. So let's talk about that ship leopard -- us from the prospect hill academy charter school in Cambridge and Somerville. What church is Charter Schools a better model or is it just to working because it's not an alternative. And and that this could easily be happening in in traditional public schools. "

" and go back to an earlier question why do I think Charter Schools are important in the landscape of public education. You often heard people speak to education as a civil rights issue in the 21 century. And it's predicated on the notion of choice. And the reason that our school was found in 1996 is that there was a group of parents in Somerville who were disillusioned with the state of public schools and and they. Basically wanted to create a school that from its very inception was. During every single student for success in college regardless of their parents -- educational attainment regardless of how much money parents make regardless of skin color regardless of country of origin regardless of language group. The belief was that really good schools. Can make a difference and I think that what what is true in the in the realm of Charter Schools is that we strike the appropriate balance between autonomy and accountability. To really two size of the same coin. And as you said Todd. Charter Schools are held a much higher standards. Then traditional schools and that in the district sending every five years we are required to make a case for our own renewal. And so the department of Elementary and Secondary Education. Through a rigorous accountability process goes through. -- chartering. Process where where they basically look at the body of work from the previous five years and say does has a school. Accomplished what I set out to accomplish our students making academic progress is it a viable organization. And that that the truth of the matter is because of this degree of accountability. Charter Schools are forced to continually be improving whereas. You know and in other contexts. There may not be that the the precipitating. Urgency. Around school improvement so I do think that that this balance between autonomy in the in the realm of length of school day academic program hiring and firing. Innovative programs etc. Allows us to. Quickly move from idea to implementation. And we is that -- larger bureaucratic system may be much more difficult. But at the same time those innovation is need to be. Effective in order for the school."

" To which is built into the concept returns -- type -- let's get some calls from listeners on charter school 6172666. Seats succeed do you think there -- an important animation you think they're better do you think they're worse do you think they. Maybe your questions for jets -- off funding in the end there's some of the arguments the unions make at -- why did you let your dog and so -- and it."

" It's just -- great idea we should get right to call 6172666868. You mentioned students of -- You mentioned students who -- the linguistic challenges they speak a different language other than English. And of course the most persistent concern and education is the achievement gaps so called. Focused on those really two groups the language challenged as well students of color. What other dynamics one of the realities that. Prospect hill in terms of -- students of -- how -- how do you overcome -- achievement -- if you've been able -- and if you haven't -- what you frustration and tell -- kind of the overall big picture."

" The demographics of our school are quite diverse. Approximately 80% of our students are students of color. African American Latino. We. Went well over two thirds of our students are come from immigrant families where. English is not the primary language spoken at home. I I like to think of the achievement gap as more a gap in opportunity and access than achievement my belief is that all students are born intelligent. And school success is more a function of the kinds of opportunities. That they've been afforded. And so what we have as a K through twelve school is a really unique our opportunity in the realm of public education -- world with student. For thirteen years from the time they're fighting until they're eighteen and they graduate. And we've had a tremendous success. In in. All students succeeding. On the for example last year we we -- we graduated 54 students. I'm 97% of whom went off to four year colleges. And as I mentioned earlier we are college preparatory school and we believe that through. Persistent. On apologetic. And that's kind herculean efforts that we do have the opportunity to get all students to to achieve it that high level."

" What's our percentage gone on to college again. Allows graduates but 97% of -- I imagine 7%. Asian closed down your schools quickly as possible this is a threat and 80% -- student should mention -- students of column. We should go let's go to college you think 6172666. Seats succeed mark here on WRK -- with the jet leopard from the prospect hill academy your morning."

" I don't I did I -- charter school the the great -- barely remember -- their war -- or not they did do one this project but I think just one thing that you never stated is that they get to choose the students then they get the fire in this students and that's a huge difference."

" I don't I don't think that's true although let's again that the gentility -- that say union talking point let's find out what he thinks of mark thanks for the call quite simply that's not true. Charter school enrollment is governed by. A lottery system and all students. -- the idea being that that all. Students and off -- in Massachusetts should have the opportunity to send their children to a really good school. And in many ways Charter Schools work and answer to that. Challenge and so. As a commonwealth charter school. We all are governed by lottery in our schools case given that our campuses reside both in Somerville and Cambridge. The lottery does give preference to residents of those two cities and towns and also to siblings as a as a way to make life easier for families. But we actually draw students from nearly thirty different cities and towns in eastern Massachusetts. And it is true that no child ends up in a charter school by accident has to be some of -- in their life who is actively advocating. For there. For their children -- antenna actually have a -- just filling out an application for them because you mentioned your media a lot of communities that once a certain. This demographic. Or sub culture becomes aware of the schools -- good place you get parents applying who were not activists about their kids' educations at all. That's true. However. Somebody has to fill out an application and and that and the reasons and -- threshold that separates you from -- were a the other public schools. That's that's the prerequisites for enrollment and that's outside that that's played out play it's such a big threshold -- doesn't seem that statement and to your point earlier our biggest. Publicity. Strategy is word of mouth. And and particularly within immigrant communities a lot of times. Families and up applying to the school because they've heard from a cousin north shore and -- are relative that. Their child and a really good school and and it is not a particularly difficult. The way -- it's not a simple application on your NWR -- gentler pretty high done."

" Good morning M underpinning and I apologize to -- a little hot topic. I'm I'm thinking out of 400 school and middle school and Massachusetts does does China score might wanna turn it. Scored a number one or in math and English to capture the whole middle schools I've got a middle school. And I'm wondering why much opposition why I would every school -- not want to -- the strong academic standards that China -- ecstatic -- credit's due."

" I think you just gave the answer. You know it's alternative structure that doesn't honor the unions ended today they do very well but don't look at jets' answer for you can go ahead Jeff."

" Thanks for the call and it is true that many of the Charter Schools are. Among the top performing schools in the state I think three of the top middle schools in the state are. Our Charter Schools are they are and and and similar we were at the high school level. You know I I it's hard for me to answer -- more schools wouldn't want to adopts on the innovations that Charter Schools have adopted in you know I will say that. Those things don't happen by accident. You know -- take one credit for one thing during my eight years and as an administrator at prospect hill. It's hiring outstanding teachers who really do believe in the potential. And the gifts of every young person why is that these are overrated those teachers. We have had a an attrition and that is approximately 20% per year and -- how does that compare to a traditional public school. I cannot answer that question already has really depends on I -- to turn over ridden urban settings -- higher than in suburban districts how many you fire. Now as opposed to them just not want any part of it. Last year of of I believe we had seventeen. Teachers who did not return from last school year to this year and a book -- and we're not renewed. Ten out of seventeen yes okay so you have the ability on your own to force out teachers who you don't feel -- doing the job. That I it sounds like as much more powerful than what I traditional public school would have with the union's active. We do have the ability to determine our personnel but but I wanted to clear that we. We'd provide a tremendous amount of support and mentoring for for a new teachers who enter our system and our goal is for every teacher to succeed. And when a teacher is not performing at the level that we hope that she or he wouldn't. We provide extra support an extra mentoring. And then just when trap doors and turning your desk it. -- shove them right through its its way you know but but it's at the at the core of what we do -- to put the needs of the students first and and when there's a circumstance where teachers simply is not meeting the needs of students. It is. We certainly have the the the authority to. Not renew that."

" 6172666. See it succeed that is jet leopard he is the headmaster at prospect hill academy in Somerville -- average day your chance to. Ask the questions get clarified some of the misconceptions about Charter Schools here on 680 WRKO."

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" This is the traffic -- the good news is the turnpike is waiving all tolls and traffic is moving through. -- He is the head masters that headmaster a principal at the door cassette masters there's three campuses into each one has a principal on news -- So you get -- the office so planned to ask ask our basketball. -- do all hardcore. They had master of prospect hill academy. -- couple quick issues and we go right back to the calls at 61726. X sixty execs the prospect hills. Theory. While longer school day longer school year and you talked about getting rid of teaches you about 20% turnover. -- Do your teachers have a contract of any sort. We are teachers are."

" Employees -- will Massachusetts's and that will stay we have a very robust system of supervision and evaluation. Where. I -- you use a term get rid of that's not my language I -- non renewal. Slightly semantics but."

" We we I don't think -- some new bashful about telling us a critical difference that you can weed out the people don't work out occasionally you're gonna make a mistake in hiring. It's better that that mistake not last for thirty years. Then three years or three months isn't why be Diageo that."

" Again putting the needs of the students first but. Would I would say is that it should never be a surprise to the teacher that they are not renewed. That should be the last in a long. Conversation that's played out over time so our first intervention is there's a performance improvement plan with very clear measures. And expectations around improvement. And it's only when. After the support and and scaffolding has put been put into place that teachers still continue. To. Failed to it to meet the needs of students that we would. Arrived at the conclusion that there wouldn't come -- yes it is and that will state and and none of our teachers our contracts for saying that's one furlough day -- Columbia Cortland that's the calls we -- we do have a longer school day com. And as I was mentioning too -- there. There's there's. That it's an emerging body of research that talks about. The widening of the achievement gap. During the summer months and and it's interesting because it happens at both ends where students who come from. Lower socioeconomic backgrounds actually regressed in the summer. And students who come from middle and upper middle class backgrounds. Advance over the summer so whereas there's already -- gap. During that there's eight to ten weeks of summer the gap widens it both and -- week just didn't we we. Earned 821 century learning centers grant. For five years to. Both star out of school time programming which is. After school weekends and Summers. And just this past summer we launched. They robust summer enrichment program for six weeks in the summertime so that we could afford all students the kinds of learning opportunities in the summer. That students who come from privileged backgrounds get as a matter of."

" Cooper three and that's interesting fact you present that the higher socio economic kids. Get upgraded in their learning over the summer where's the -- kids lose ground. And you wanna keep the morning one of the great myths however of schools is that you just can't educate kids who don't come from good homes. And I think you -- school and other Charter Schools for both prove that to be. A falsehood it's being perpetrated to try to support bad education fact of the matter is as you said 80% your kids -- minority. And 97% of last year went on to college. It -- kids can be turned around kids can be educated if you have them in schools that are designed to win. Let's take some calls for it it -- leopard from the prospect hill academy. It is a charter school in Somerville and Cambridge KCRW are -- good morning."

" Fight -- to protect like golf. Thank you -- make it -- yeah. I'm calling because I can't get this is -- testimony will -- go to this morning how powerful unions really are. The teachers unions this mr. -- is afraid to talk about. Yeah what. What -- unions are actually doing he's different around -- and that taught try to bring up the fact. That that the unions are big part of a problem he had."

" Yeah I I wouldn't blame -- though he's he's trying to focus on what he does and what the advantages are and he's really not about unions are not union -- about schools that win. I wanna point out the political thing because there are armies of people is -- pointing out Casey in our power structure in the federal government. In the state government and the partnership the Democratic Party has with the unions fighting it on improving education. -- jet's here to demonstrate that there's a model through which education winds."

" That brought I think that's Gregg Jarrett I think that what you're doing is very important and and it's really good bad -- that you get some exposure at. What you do and in most communities all the -- communities that you talk about. And I'd better and again all I think Debbie. The the union just so all all jets not speaking out to get them because he's afraid they'll crush camp."

" I don't know that that's the case I don't know this particular relevant because what the union tutoring that's much more damage and then crashing jet is they're crushing. New opportunities of millions of students around the country and here in the state of Massachusetts and particularly poor and minority kids and that's really the important point to make."

" Let me respond after a minute I'm not worried about being crushed but thanks for the for the for looking out there. I I wanna does emphasize that I believe that there really good teachers in all kinds of schools can't traditional district's schools Charter Schools. Private schools parochial schools. We this year. Receive another grant to. Do dissemination project with Somerville public schools it's pretty revolutionary. That occasion in in the landscape of education reform where we're actually we took one of our very best teachers. And she's on loan for years to work as a resident coach in two elementary K to -- schools in Somerville. Our model professional development which is based on collaborative inquiry where teams of teachers. Work with each other looking at student data to figure out what's working. And to adapt and modify it. Both instructional curricular plans that model has worked for us as evidenced by our student achievement. And working with as superintendent and his delegates in Somerville. We felt that the model that we have adopted and is not something that only can work in the context of our school and and actually one of the founding mandates of Charter Schools was to -- and."

" Disseminate invest in practice he comes in I'm fascinated by this because of what you've just made reference to was not a these the professional collaboration among and between teachers but I'm talking about a political collaboration. May -- in a -- and apparently the school committee in the superintendent. Have indicated a willingness at least an openness to take one of -- previous start teaches and say hey come on over and help us. His is that as at a period in any other communities in which Charter Schools have had to -- the success that -- had a prospect help."

" And there are other examples -- Charter Schools have made a difference in the districts down there's a program that neighborhood house -- charter school in Boston. That has developed it's called the project for school innovation and that has become -- sort of a think -- four best practice. And then Boston Public Schools have benefited from that. But it is that you know the credit goes to the superintendent of Somerville for putting politics aside and putting students first and he said if it works at the charter school. Why can't we learn from that like you we work together why can't we figure out how the same kinds of things might work in a district setting and what I wanna mention is that. You know we have something called a teacher leadership academy where we take our. Our top teachers and Wheeler basically teaching them to think like principles so that we're we're an incubator for leadership. And -- through this dissemination grant we have seven teachers from Somerville who have joined the prospect of academy teacher leadership academy. And you know yes there and unions but when we sit together on Saturday's six times a year. It's not the union that is driving the agenda it's the needs of students -- driving the."

" Don't make them wear special colored clothing or anything the union members. Now -- a six point 726666. Elizabeth you're NWR diligent worker from prospect hill academy hi Elizabeth."

" I am I'm a deliberate the -- they have some I have a child who actually attend PH eighth -- eleventh grade. And I actually think that PGA has done wonders for him. He started out not -- made by -- for middle school off. And --"

" So he he -- join the school in new in six right."

" He you know he joined display ninth grade. Yes and McCain found a little score -- But it like it's private it was Tokyo school. And down basically financial it'll allow me looking at him -- that -- So what happened trying to target score that. Basically some high grade -- or. There and -- basically have smaller classes and our strong teacher. --"

" Why does why does the school or twelve you're child."

" Because I think I think the smaller classes I allow him to our beloved teacher actually to teach -- mark. And allow him so I don't have more. The strong not only the academics are so. This teacher is being strong with the children the rules and regulations."

" Having just been disciplined environment."

" Exactly and I think that if you have children disciplined and more. What -- to be able to teach them a classroom -- outside the classroom. I think that really helped remodel our he's not he's not perfect child that you know he's he's wild anyways but. I think that just how things are that are around him that -- surrounding. Really helped him get help but I would."

" Our kids need that structure thank you for make in the point Elizabeth one of the things -- of striking going to visit the school last week was. That all the kids when they see you even if they're just walking by in the -- most of normal. -- gay and say hi and they -- other hand I introduce themselves -- his personal identity. The fact that you're teaching them how to behave like an adult. Instead of reinforcing. That they do this kind of youth culture thing through I mean even uniforms which I think is nice. And that this structure that all the kids who I talked to the -- they love the fact that they were in this strict structured environment it's not like a military school. It's just that there are clear expectations and I think kids need the structure they need the expectations."

" Well thanks Elizabeth for the call. I would adjust to matters of what you what you raised them. As I mentioned earlier it's really the teachers that make the biggest difference in schools you know UD US and I agree. Physical. Assets are what make it's is that old school by the way or some -- all three of our buildings -- former parochial schools that we have moved into -- they're not -- doesn't look like -- 200 million dollar budget for your -- facilities but -- teacher at any of those schools she did not know -- But let me just say that that in terms of the the teachers you know I was with a group of middle school middle school students a year ago and anti you've heard me ask them this sort of question at the end who are -- chat on on Friday. Which was. You don't tell on the things that you don't like about the school and and one of the things it. One of the students said last year was our teachers care too much when we're not performing when we're not doing what we're supposed to do. They are on our case they call our parents at home. They harass us they follow us they they follow up. And and you know it's true that there we. Whereas in and a larger school might be difficult for child to. Coast through fall through the cracks. We have systems in place and ensure that doesn't happen to the second point. -- that. In addition to the academic curriculum which as I've mentioned we've we've done done quite well with -- for seven consecutive years a 100% of our tenth grade students have passed both the English language arts and math and passed. North of 95% of them are in the proficient and advanced categories but in addition to the academic preparation. There's a whole social curriculum that is essential to student success. Not only in school but in college and beyond and you know this is -- this is a situation where we are very explicit about teaching students. Not only how to read -- and problems solves but also how to be responsible citizens. How to advocate for themselves how to engage with an adult visitor from the outside who they didn't know from. -- And you know we teach those skills it's not something that happens by osmosis. Come certainly students who come from the culture of power in the white middle class families. Have social capital as a function of you know how they were born into this world but we feel that those skills those had a supposed to expedition dispositions and that confidence is necessary for."

" All of your kids are better at a than affluent suburban kids -- I I think that's a great gift and it shows a level of caring. It's not caring select kids slide by without learning this stuff -- leopard is Willis prospect hill academy in Cambridge and Somerville. Your calls coming up on six AB WRKO."

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" Good morning my five -- sudden just static it -- that the local little prospect academy us and them. They article that I really what did you make without having school like PHA available what you're trying to match no -- Astaro to a school is just wonderful we have a very energetic five year old very passionate about relating. And it's just being extraordinary watching. He's going to school and the way to teach it's treated he had been just see -- thought -- interest in developing political style just say it it's just. Really and and excited that we we -- people grateful to have the school cannot."

" Money quickly how is it different from other school school experiences you might --"

" I think it's got to do with the ability to look at the child of an individual and say this -- this way let me try and match. A program and just adjust to what we're doing for the general cost to that individual and we had an experience with our old child that was. That would try to -- Brad came you know it's quite taken to a rat hole. And that it was it'll get hot Indian and it's just so exciting yeah -- the child. Be able to have really be looked after it for himself he's just --"

" Congratulations -- having a good experience that's good feedback let's get another call on Mike good morning to you."

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" Okay exactly and the thing about it is you'll also agree that the parents more involved and acute that the march 1 goal. In many times they are -- a Washington nervous. Let -- supposed to do it's an absolutely okay and the other thing anyway my point Mike Hsu William. My point is this -- so little disingenuous when you do that -- that there's certainly a world put it. And that woman just said that they can -- beat. The education pitted -- children you can't do it got like one of the school -- comes to politics. Politics when these schools educators don't."

" And what's different is that -- and then the charter environment educators are running the schools it circumstance. That ugly politics he referring to there's no -- and adequacy on the part of the charters and nothing that there no challenge they're not facing saw. I I think your argument is misplaced they're taking it did it."

" As a self taught and I just got thirty seconds we disagree on China schools it's because I say what this college just said. These -- the hidden factor is. -- What do you say that quick you got ten seconds half half -- and I assume that every parent wants their child to succeed it's all about putting. Men into a situation that's going to partner with families in a way that. Honors retirement and puts the needs of the kids first ten all schools can and should do that -- look for thank you for being here prospect hill academy prospect hill academy dot --"

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