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Obama The War Monger?
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Obama The War Monger?

Published:Thu, 8 Oct 2009
Description:Medeia Benjamin from Code Pink talks with TNT about Obama and his wars
+Automatically Generated Transcript  (may not be 100% accurate)

" They -- happy veterans or."

" That's what I'm talking about -- us. Good morning until yeah. This story safe mister Fenner and I know you're not tuned in March you're at -- nature. And it's a natural beauty around you got to -- but take a look to these latest looked and we thank our -- this -- I tell you -- positive influence your work efforts taken quite some time but you may not know what it is talks about how beautiful it is a brilliant it's going to be greeted today by the way the opposite of -- if you're lucky enough to 393 the -- home. Because when you're sitting in a parking lot night is a game they -- right it's aiming right towards the the sunrise I -- southern 93 heads north and south towards exactly does just pointing right towards the city and above the city right there is a sunrise I can't explain. How south became east but that's what NASA let us thank authority. Everybody who pays attention of the news knows who used to be an anti war movement he wore used to always be that -- the war in Iraqis to be horrible. End the war in Afghanistan used to be a porous even though we knew was okay to go in there. And the used to be people put up signs every time a soldier was killed now nobody seems to care but. There are signs that the anti war movement is coming back to life after nine months of for the great one being in charge of the country they've realized that war is still the same. Even when a Democrat is running those wars and escalating those wars Medea Benjamin from code pink is here. Then they used to be vehemently anti war were hoping they will do once again but they're welcome to WR -- have you back."

" So are you guys can learn."

" You are okay because 25% of the eight years of fatalities in Afghanistan have happened. This year is our current."

" Well I think differently were they. -- eight soldiers were killed that day which was the highest number one we're soldiers were killed contribute --"

" Okay so are you now ready to declare Barack Obama. The well let's see accusation -- a war criminals that we wanted to would have called George W. Bush at this point. Are you ready to declare. Barack Obama any war criminal."

" I'm look at -- quality that's -- after."

" George Bush at -- or interact based on false premises. And Barack Obama is keeping us interact thinking it does generic. And we'll see there is Aaron. BL a jury is still out we'll check -- the weather is gonna escalate this were once again they're not able and I think a lot and subtle. Public -- we are so hopefully we'll be doing our job to a chink in civil that escalation has not right way to go."

" The day if Tom Finneran trust co host he. Your thoughts on the Afghanistan in the invasion was Georgie you know the Iraq situation you've made clear disagreement with former President Bush. -- was Afghanistan justified in your mind under the it is the code pink mission against all war at all times."

" to get -- all apparently that's not what brought it together and actually when we came together. There were several people at any code pink who believed that. Be in Asia and Afghanistan where it was right another believed it was Ronald I believe it was wrong because. -- within Afghanistan three weeks after the US started bombing. -- saw already all the civilian casualties than we realize that this split up a way to go that if we wanted to target people put fact at sun nine elevenths. It was much better way to do that then. Just -- indiscriminate bombing. A country."

" What -- the better way to be if you faced with a situation and at the time. Taliban and al-Qaeda had got more than a foothold they have really almost. You know. Control and latitude all throughout the isn't the whole nation how would you -- but at different life."

" They are still an attack but it. Crime against humanity and should be treated at a time and that we should be doing what we're actually doing successfully which is. Police working an international data sharing to try to find people. -- who want to attack us now we should do that a lot lower. Effectively. Any that is that is a very targeted kind of attack that not an invasion of the country."

" I'm curious about your lack of zeal and contempt for. How this president has handled Iraq he he he got elected by tricking the American people and particularly in the left your movement. Into believing that even at a time when Iraq was in intense battleground. That he would immediately withdraw troops systematically without regard for what was happening on the ground because he was so compelling that we during our troops home yet. -- in a very peaceful Iraq a relatively peaceful Iraq nine months into his presidency he hasn't market taking a soldier out yet why are you all. -- absolutely abhorrent."

" Well you can't just sort of put it -- troops backed by the air act 2000 -- eleven. And we're hoping that he sticks to that title and."

" By -- son tougher anymore you used to be tough."

" He could early in the morning I just got back. Afghanistan has still --"

" what do you see in Afghanistan the duo who would be helpful for us to now."

" I see it action battle. The are people that we shot didn't feel right. Have to be. We used to the Taliban not to fight and then then -- and our poor villagers as -- where waste site. Little financial. Possibilities that content dollar ate salad bar -- And we help these people get jobs to -- little chair ways to make it didn't count they wouldn't be -- The work of."

" How would we do that."

" Well a particular issue with the -- Gannett parent interest actually they claim that they have. I think actually encouraged terror. Held out until it actually Delaware then that they don't get it from the United States. So I think what they would be juror help -- commissioner -- Arnold. Because it is. -- reading on that individual donation -- businesspeople in Afghanistan. And old battle there would be to -- light brigade in. They're literally decided that we didn't wanna keep biting air we started talking to those though. Any -- so they are we're gonna work but we view instead of fighting against duke did entire tribes and tribal leaders in Afghanistan. That we should be talking to you and working with oh. Billion years that. But -- get the United States because the US bombing villages I think going to."

" And they don't let me ask how you -- code from the folks your colleagues at code pink would deal with the fanatical. Obsession and hatred. Of the United States that the leadership. Of Taliban and al-Qaeda. Exhibit -- are quite -- I mean they use it as a recruiting tool it's that people seem to respond to if I can understand though. The what disrespect in disgust people have about the collateral damages on civilians and how we might be turning hearts and minds away from our interest because of that. But the fanatical. Hatred. Is real -- you know this notion that we can just sit down and had to send them all the job counseling seems to me to be a little bit naive."

" Well not talking about do it without I. I think that different talking about the Taliban. Then eight and vast majority of early. Ideologically different but they say about a trade secret that let them. Has joined the Taliban because they have been. Act by eight aren't forced their -- but that's utility that we're gonna be really cool. And that is not a target at the United States that take that issue then -- the issue are pretty. White tape providing alternate ways to make that -- would be a lot of efficient and effective than fighting."

" Medea Benjamin as -- us from the anti war group code -- Craig in Arlington good morning to you thanks for calling."

" Well I'd like you do but they know where we need to be very pay 2011. And -- there we had promised to leave the country goes. You make you sick but if you do you basically get the American soldiers killed because -- boasts. Well -- suppose these wars with one hand behind his back. You take it easy because you're basically."

" Craig sorry you're breaking up on a -- happened. In tribute conjure what Greg Lewis drive an -- there I think he's."

" they want soldiers come back get a look at don't want him being killed we went aren't good outlet of the debate is an Afghanistan. And cannot do a bunch of soldiers until -- don't know I'd get. Don't think they're getting good. When it comes home so I told you wanna come back. Be asking people don't want to be occupied -- out of people. The urgent -- that's due to the biggest recruiting tool that the Taliban has. -- other semifinal I had to come up with they responsible wait for the US to get out."

" IRA might kill your next NW RKO and Medea Benjamin from code pink tie Mike."

" I thought -- you trauma they have every right to speak with you may have. I don't Vietnam combat veteran and I do believe the anti war movement that -- enables. He steadfastness of the relieve American troops. That would sort. Get -- made in -- is being mean by the enemy but I don't believe your your page in this case we have. I believe in your cause. I believe that the bottom line is this. That's the Afghan people don't wanna be like us they wanna be like that. We should withdraw our troops. There's a good fighting force take them back to our shores. And desktop particularly look bright young lady. And like based JI as one drive home in my life I -- at -- they can show because. Because I really believe look at that -- you're enabling you -- show us at this time I don't feel your -- us right. And I shaping -- racial thank very much."

" Thank you might appreciate the call -- word you hear a lot of them adapt."

" Well yeah. Yeah or use our try to capture it exactly that reason speech. I don't think have adequately what you eat what to do about this fanatical anti Americanism. Or anti west sentiment. It. It is important because it -- But we're with the Taliban where where there is there. Occupation. Not against the west. And that they -- good ideas to get that -- that their country. So our little area immediate solution there we just to get out."

" The day what's your sense of the Obama White House this cannot be happy just senator circumstance this of them I think the bush crowd. Probably looked at you folks demonstrating outside as a badge of modify them. I'm not sure the Obama -- folks are gonna respond the same way you can pick up the -- you've been around politics of Washington DC for awhile. What are you hear from those people that that you know like do you once upon a time."

" Does the -- analysts polled say that the major general don't support their work it's hard -- precedent to. Be -- young people out toward digital supported by the population. I would hope that this is particularly -- president like Barack Obama. Cool I want to be preventing a sentiment that the American people. So I think -- the -- project it is it probably. I think that they feel uncomfortable about especially at -- black majority sentiment."

" Medea Benjamin with a strong code pink -- your -- NW RK LA they're Peter."

" What was ridiculous let me remotely if -- want that Afghanistan doesn't have an organized government that's gonna bring a breeding ground for terrorism. All. I don't support any war that we're not committed to win. And I heard this president say that victory is not on the agenda and Afghanistan. And I think it's -- high hopes that opportunity for code pink now. The car route and give this president tapped when they were given George Bush camp when he was limited in Iraq. And as far as I troop morale I think that you know you're just doubt. Spreading false propaganda. I mean as far as I'm concerned everybody that -- associated with the military. There's -- higher morality they're dedicated leadership. And their wallet sharing we have a volunteer. Army boat people oh we first. Euros so they are not -- would come on strip. There are still over there out of it wrong tree well. And I and I think code pink you know should be out there on the front waters begin our state you are stopping this war because we're not. You know committed to -- or are you know they should just shut up."

" Starring Peter thank you -- death."

" I think I try to stop -- where we put yourself at risk. Going trash can understand where in places that had been. Up bombs frequently it was dangerous just to -- and we -- because we wanted to. What he can't people just say we want -- stuck at the -- summit on. We talked to lock up people there I'm there and eventually got what that. Think 40000 more troops. Escalating its war which Ronald. Have to be in its strategy that irresponsible one that one it's responsible. They keep our troops should -- it is possible. -- this is responsible as possible chance that you just got something happened Afghanistan next. We believe. That will. -- the Taliban from coming in the kicking over the country."

" Now they need. To American servicemen Mondale and just get in a quick question when you are to American servicemen what's your sense of the in my Ralph. No support. For the mission you clearly disagree with what we're trying to do as a nation which is sent to the men and women on the front line."

" Well I can't I can't -- battle. A conversation with -- cross section of that we just talked to. People here that we get along with all along the way but I certainly that people -- the institute said. -- They're not doing anything. -- says they -- hamstrung because the that are trying to stop civilian casualties and that meant that they weren't able to act. Get out there -- end up I believe the little they were going to look. -- issued this this is -- complicated country in the Afghans have such. Tribal and ethnic loyalties. And the people who are -- don't want our did you experience that really good of the country that there is it it is not that Al welcome foreign troops. We capital of the -- that you know they hate they aren't soldiers they -- so we we -- We say that at eight at soldiers field apparently to be there."

" John -- and accent WRKO would Medea Benjamin from code pink tie John."

" must bring him back. And then you can all play -- WL I."

" I don't think that's exactly her position John Fox. No laughing matter in Toronto and brings a little -- take levity to it while Jeff -- are you good morning Jim."

" Good morning. What the question I have is -- Calvin chirps we're there. Members of the cabin where they have before we would -- Afghanistan and how we're there now. Because it makes it's -- result mortality and they are now because of the fact that. You know we went into their country and that's. Try to help out and I think that's what gets lost with our folks from people like code pink that. They do it and make if you like there was no reason whatsoever for American troops to. Go into Afghanistan when in fact. We want to give specific purpose is to free them from. You know the precedent this the --"

" I know now is our purpose was to go get al-Qaeda. Which was given free -- to -- to have bases and operate out of Afghanistan we did that after about an hour and a half in the last eight years since then. Have been pursuing an enemy which is no longer in Afghanistan that's al-Qaeda they wanted al-Qaeda moved out of went elsewhere. So -- that's where I have trouble with the justification for the fight but -- Benjamin code -- thanks for being here appreciate your time."

" It and -- adding that these people could. -- code pink color Eric."

" Code pink colored dot org good question for you now. Should we stay in Afghanistan should we escalate should we withdrawal what do you think 617. 2666868. It's Tom and Todd 680 WRKO."

" Talk radio -- and calcium vitamins logic entertainment. Earlier information visit his Boston's talks vision and AM -- AV WRKO."

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