Howie and Congressman Thaddeus McCotter

" And few weeks ago we had on the show way Republican congressman from Michigan Thaddeus from caught our. He's from Livonia Michigan which is just outside the the motor city. Clearly most of the residents have been motoring out of the city over the last a few decades. But we way he says he's in Boston this weekend and we we want to have him on the show just to visit and I didn't know the we have a a great -- to a great topic to discuss with them but first of all. First of all welcome to Boston. Congressman caught our thoughts to be here's my first time in Boston. And we know what it where it what are you here for this weekend -- going up to Rhode Island we're down to Rhode Island that's for him. -- there you go Arizona. Cut it to speak to the northeast Republican leadership conference from them also been invited to -- the champions of the Charles dinner tonight all -- from going to get a literally a taste of Moscow. You'll you'll you'll enjoy it does opiate. As this is a dapper O'Neil one of -- City Council is used to say how we like our food I guess it's a little early to work past that now but. We're glad you're here that thanks for stopping in at the how we car show I guess the first question before -- get to the other -- the the pet health care belt. What did what is the story with the human health care. Well."

" honest I'm not quite sure I don't think a lot of people are this is one of those rare instances where the Democrats and emulated Republican behavior has people remember when we went to minority. One of the things we do we would start bills on the right wing of our party and try to count enough votes to get to the medal and often broke down was very -- public tired of it rather quickly. The Democrats is -- starting in the middle and working with both parties out like -- many people have in the old days. -- they've just done what we did except in the mirror the star of on the left another having trouble with their own members passing it so until they resolve that intra party fight. It's really going to be a question as to what it looks like when it comes out and I think the most visible part of this is the public option where you see blue dog saying no when you see others saying from the progressive quote unquote -- saying yes. So. I'm like to think a more charitable soul and to take a -- and Freud and -- Democrats eternal battle but that's what it it's so confusing to follow -- in the press speak."

" See you know you'll you'll read that they've they've voted down the public auction twice in the Senate Finance Committee. And then they announced they're gonna have a bill to the president's desk. In and a democratic senator says well we're gonna try to but we're not gonna have a chance to read any of the legislation I mean. It just seems like it it's just utter confusion is -- is there a copy of the bill."

" Well it is organized dysfunction and there are several bills that are floating around I mean we have a bicameral legislature congress -- sang -- house. And even though you may have one party running it in one party running the Senate. You're still going to see these differences not only within chambers but again within parties. So I think it's it's very confusing and is very disconcerting to people in the health care debate it generally have a rule from a file drummer George carlin's bit on. Yes I love reverend just don't touch my -- and -- and I think it's a general rule of thumb we should follow in trying to help the uninsured. As a member of the people who are happy with their insurance would love to be charitable has some safety net for them. But -- touch their stuff and make it works."

" Well let's I mean that's that's why it's it's up to 56% disapproval rating and and that's what I. That's another thing I don't understand is that you know as as it's dysfunctional to use your word is the Republicans work me I don't think they they ever. Wind -- of their way to pass legislation that they thought the American people were post. -- No although I would think that they miss read several. Right especially in the trade area coming from the middle class right but but in this case in this case the Democrats all know as well as the Republicans that the majority of American people especially people who vote. In every election much of presidential elections are opposed. To tinkering with their health care."

" It is very strange having watched presidentially President Clinton was very adept at understanding where the center of the country was on any given issue and adapting to it. I think that's why many ways to divided government of President Clinton being a Democrat and then the last six years of Republicans particularly productive on the minds of Americans. I've never seen ago. The president start to refuse to take no for an answer and then start to move to the senator I mean if you hit the reset button I think the public would breathe a sigh of relief."

" We also written for people are he'd look like the centrist that he -- yeah. With you I was you know I was happy myself today when Chicago lost the Olympics just prefer the obvious reason that he. He campaigned Ford went over to Copenhagen. I didn't. Did the list leadership was so happy about us and again this is that this is a blue area of the country and I know I know my Lister ship those represent everybody. But people are just that people just want this guy to get -- to get it a couple of else -- it was today."

" But think what they'd like to see is him to. I think I personally would like to see Chicago get it I always root for the United States when we overseas. But I I can understand the frustration I think a lot of people would have been content to see the First Lady go over. Obviously that's the closest person to the president that -- gone I think they understand -- was people fighting and dying in Iraq that there should be more than attention on this from the white house with the economy and unemployment numbers coming out. They would feel better with their president here. Focused on those issues instead of running off to Copenhagen. Are not going to fault him for trying to do the right thing but I do think the timing of it was mistaken and I think that's for the public. Is not against Chicago perceive the kind of cinema."

" exactly know -- yet no one would know what she no one particularly wishes ill to the state of Illinois and Chicago is just there they wish you open the the president and they just they're glad that he took took a loss here in this what. 18774694322187746943. To -- have to ask you about. This is a great Friday night's story to bring up here I idea I had I knew nothing about this until I pick up The Washington Times. Earlier this week it now tell us about the pet health care so."

" Or trying to do a -- really for the owners for the cost of gas tax deduction for the cost of taking care of her parents. There was an idea that was brought to a friend to Miami actor Robert -- see him -- cousin Leo Grilli who runs a rescue for animals and I said well okay we'll drop it and it. We'll put in minutes and just tax relief you always start I expected to go low work out the once health care is over then we can look at how to help people keep pats because. We would hear the stories of people who have to drop animals off the shelters because it couldn't afford them -- session and more people. The animal shelters with Telus with -- number of animals was rising just people couldn't afford to adopt. And we thought it was just a nice idea to throw in and it's really taken off. And I have to admit I'm a little surprised by how not how much people love their animals -- quickly word of something miles really hasn't pushed has spread."

" That's the Internet for. I wish I would assume I would assume we've also yet that the you've got a lot of calls from -- that the press the media write about those yet we have and if it's surprising as usually I only get calls from the press -- and particularly horrible. 187746943. -- were talking earlier. Goldfish. Our goldfish going to be covered under. They gonna be considered up. Household pets I don't believe so I think that we were looking at mammals and he the end it again it was a memos and eight million bits yes and that's why I -- that's Terry you you're gonna get in trouble out of this time there's a violation against fish an amphibian."

" Right now we're not gonna cover anything because Washington doesn't seem to like tax relief particularly much on the reality is. It's a concept that we put in that we can work on after health care was done. And again people like the -- as BCA have put it out there are others have in the response has been been been very startling but I am quite pleased with the hopes and as we go on forward to next year. That we can start working this out already getting a lot of good ideas from people who email my office about what should or should not be covered. And I think it's a wonderful part legislative process to hear from the."

" What you know here's another question and again I EI could be BM just crazy for thinking about this that I know that you were common -- You don't chickens aren't just poultry there's so there was a story in a magazine about how people are starting to use chickens as -- Now with the -- chickens be covered under this or generally comes with others and I don't know to be covered under the act I think we have to apply some. Common sense of the situation. Feathers okay."

" But I mean do we can -- hypothetically debate what happens to a bill that may or may not move depending on the majority but I do think of the concept of it. Is very sound. Some for domesticated animals -- people really do care that they do any of them this is the extension of their family especially seniors. Whose children are gonna may have lost their spouse. And leave the emotional heart rending part of a mystery to the do you read my mail. And I read through the emails that they send me on this and that's very moving stories about how important animals are to them how they fear that they may have to lose their handle because -- don't have any money."

" Got no idea I I have a veterinarian on the show every month -- in this in this time slot once I'm on Friday night's. And we get people to talking about spend thousands of dollars to keep their pets alive -- to a -- called up to show when in Springfield where was doing a remote last week. And the sky may have had several kids with a model he was a big money guy at all and his dog got hit by Carty spent 2300 box and one day. Mean that's and you know he. I and he said you remember that SF course our member yeah."

" I remember we had the family packed and we were remember every I think every child -- numbers on the family thought that they that we had a dog named ginger. My brother named her after the Gilligan's Island characters so he wasn't married and got so but what I mean I remember when we had to put her down. Yeah how painful that hooks itself to understand the emotional attachment. I do I just wanna make clear -- That under no scenario do we see us applying this tax credit to something like that you put Cabrera or -- squash that is yet to be domesticated."

" Tax fraud. It's a big problem the United States of America isn't getting worse by the year and a unity would not be considered US domestic animal in 1877469432218774694322. What's the name of the lead the sea monster in Lake Champlain worst -- and Vermont writes in this in the 6 o'clock hour -- is a champ beat. I used champion in this now we know it's not nothing yet. The other is a sea monster and in Lake Champlain on the shores of you know Burlington Vermont don't mutilate your trying to add to our five great ones already. -- I don't remedy I'm not involved with that I could see that would be a big big issue him and Michigan. Candidates and he really does not only from -- one -- says you know we used to -- the mayor of -- don't -- the independent -- malicious -- unless another yes -- for a lot of very -- man and materialism -- much -- international 18774694322. Let's take some calls for congressman Thaddeus mark -- he's a Republican from Michigan he's in in New England this -- your first trip to Boston -- Republican member congress -- and I would qualify as an exotic -- thing. No there isn't much of us around here -- now we had a few for awhile but how would what did you get the political and -- and pasting taken effect that if the minute they didn't even get protection under the Endangered Species Act. There were hunted to extinction for like like they weren't passenger pigeon it's -- why -- they -- separate force tonight for three duke duke Kevin you're next with Howie Carr and congressman Thaddeus mark potter go ahead Kevin."

" We are you don't good. -- Congressman that I just. I'd really like -- not -- that's but I really don't like but most just we're just let -- mother of my mother might might step followed February. She got cherished outlook. And that is like in new child and and you know -- just great -- You know are any any any thing that could. You don't help per I would bet. --"

" I appreciate that somebody asked me why I -- the happy act. In truth I had a my iPod The Rolling Stones happy and uncle Keith is saying it. And he says any love to keep me happy and when you see people whose children are grown -- people who lost a spouse and their alone. Vehicles animals do fill that void that needs to care for another creature. I think that I I actually agree with -- doing understandable."

" Well that I just like I just like to -- a lot of -- Kyoto like mistake you know what. Thank god somebody they can about stuff like that as opposed up a lot of other stuff that goes on. But. Thank you and whatever I can do to help you know I will do thank you."

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" What they sell you know obviously so ID you know you've gotta you gotta -- you've got a great sea monsters into this bill. They're not domestic and give -- congressman Welch on the fault. This is a way to say he would always say he's a rookie you know freshmen while -- is nice -- to get what he -- people from -- he -- you guys get together and -- this is an amendment we don't like the -- there's -- Mexican domesticated champs -- it's a strong -- domesticated the monster Lake -- why they'd -- monsters and Lake Michigan. Only when their -- legacy expect. 18774694322. Chuck you're next with Howie Carr and congressman not Thaddeus -- of Michigan go ahead chuck."

" I had no idea. Eight we will watch that does he passed the way and number abuse should go that we were thinking of getting in the one world we decided that he is there. And that we would they -- to get it about the dark. Until recently a friend about I was blown away for the weekend that system security cat who was trying to stick. And then they gave the name of the threat and the -- can't get the outlook or shall we talked about the threat. And what's not even wear a mask around him they come out mr. Milosevic Russian bank of abolished. Nine under at all -- if Saudi -- we're able to all the people said this is what it's going to be -- should put that they've we will we'll reimburse. And actually it was about 1200 dollars later they took care of the patent two weeks later at that I. -- myself that's it there's no way I can afford to take an -- to the -- well. So and they don't wear masks so let's say it's from aide Linda hope you can do something about that because. I would recommend everybody just talk Leo thank you becoming brought this to become -- That's where the money is take care -- thank you very much."

" It was an interesting piece of one of the British newspaper saying that it you know with nationalized health care in Britain. You can you can ointment dog is it is seriously ill. You can get an appointment for the dog and have the operation done immediately the dog gets better health -- basically the human beings that. Because the veterinary system in the UK is still privately run."

" Yes and in all seriousness you're actually write out what happens is these -- life is not subject to be. Concept of what it cost to society to continue or to improve upon it that's the danger of linking you -- continuation and preservation of life. To its cost to the government. As sovereign people want a free republic you should never put her servants in Washington -- bureaucracy in the position to make that determination for your cost basis."

" 18774694322. You don't we get calls like that him with a -- say though you know I say you know security you know what at a certain point eight. You've you've just got to let it go and -- on get a new a new cat I mean I know people love their cats of their dogs but -- that's that's the reality of it you know I mean. It's just. It's crazy. Fit to spend that kind of -- that if you especially don't have it. What 1877469432290. Let's say this is a -- that's easy for you to say how your -- Ehrlich are healthy right now but. I don't know what to do with that -- Jeff you're next with Howie Carr and congressman Thaddeus -- Cotter of Michigan go ahead Jeff."

" How are yard short. Hey. Yeah well. My dog I don't put down eleven years ago. Married -- book got I think around 1500 dollars leading. Prior to go yet thank very -- special the first -- had two more. Special -- And you know it was short period sonogram you did everything record. But I would create out of date 5000 and also there it would not all of that talk. You'd best start ever had."

" So what's your cap congress it's 3500 right just 3500 room behind number knowing that especially with tax relief. That the Houston bill moves that number will likely come down but we wanted to if you start low number means it is going further down. So I decided to -- build -- again the stories that we're hearing earned just so typical and when you talk tally about the intimate decision people make. In terms of whether the animal has to go down or not since the last caller talked about this. Animal. The reality is is so if we can help less than that burden on them of having to put down an animal that might be able to be saved. If there were not free cost consideration that they themselves are willing to pay if they hadn't I think it would make for more humane America. You see it Democrats make it behind that if they could have so much death penalty for -- No I think Democrats will be very supportive of this but again we have to clear the decks of some very important things in terms of health care in terms of decisions made regarding Afghanistan our troops. I understand that I I'm hoping that at some point when we come in next year after much of this has been decided. One way or the other by the end of the year than we can start to look at."

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" While I appreciate your perspective but remember I mean I know -- Rhode Island was south to view until I got here. But in Michigan will happen as you would have a lot of overflow come into my -- area or visit our state is that went on with the economic. Situation we have Michigan with a 15% unemployment has -- official rate it anything that can even spill over our way we would welcome."

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" I heard the Chicago the Chicago for the Chicago Board of Trade today the trick the traders look more. Cheering when they got the news that they weren't gonna there were gonna have the the Olympics."

" Well I'm from Detroit in the midwest has been hard hit and again I go back to the fact that. Any time the United States can showcase what type of people we are. I think is good for the country now that we didn't get it is fine I personally will not be traveling down to Rio or whoever. Okay got -- ever bad Michael -- moving."

" Blame it on radio. Slow and whether or similar redeeming social aspects of movie and -- for the plot and no I did not Q you've you've pegged to may 0187746943. To do you gotta get go to you what do you think you're gonna you're gonna get dull day. Well Thaddeus -- are we appreciate you coming in and you know will stay in touch on the on the pet bill obviously and we'll stay in touch with you when you do other things that are run noteworthy we appreciate you joining us here if I offer the amendment to put champs and -- the car amendment. All that would be nice though it may be admitted to get the moon bats off my back from Vermont for awhile there was called me yell -- them -- okay. Thanks a lot -- sub -- congressman from Michigan we appreciate have a good time here in the new England and enjoy a enjoy everything all of the find now. Find things we have to offer one of which isn't Republican congress have many more than 18774694322. On how we dark."