Howie and Colonel Hunt

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" What are we get a bad ice cube. -- death was at least the sixth time in the past three years of Boston area college student has died after falling from a building. 1877469432218774694322. That is the toll free number of the Howie -- show. Very. The top US and NATO commander in Afghanistan and warns in an urgent confidential assessment of the war that he needs more forces within the next year and bluntly states the without them the eight year old conflict quote. Will likely result in failure. On quote according to a copy of the 66 page document obtained by the Washington Post. General Stanley my crystal says emphatically quote failure regain the initiative in reverse insurgent momentum in the near term next twelve months. While Afghan security matures security capacity matures risks and outcome we're defeating the insurgency. Is no longer possible. Joining us now on the line is -- colonel David Hunt he's a a military contributor to the Fox News Channel he's also president of how we nascent. Colonel hunt this is this is pretty -- this is even this is about as bad as you've been talking about lately."

" Yeah I can put Bengali and it depended. That guy welcome myself. As a nation this welcome up problem and I will got to be talked about. China which it may be some -- bit disappointed in the tropics right now quite frankly. Problem I expertise this would be and that you know snapped this."

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" If I'm not a hundred acres statement okay I digress. That what -- I would do anything to me. It troubling is that this this report became crystal wrote the commander in Afghanistan. Post I can't afford to perform a special operations -- everyone likes of where they very close hole from Tim to be secretary defense. -- not to close ultimately lead to. In an executive census office welcome crystals that. I -- at least get to Bob Woodward says."

" It's very light -- five to guess some of the same crystals people -- that."

" I don't know how did I don't know great but I -- given what they read it studied fights. Inside of I administration. It was also the Bush Administration but this guy owns. The B oddly hollow what whether we should continue and I can't stand. And what's gonna take and what what. But the crystal didn't Department of Defense did it take it -- shot. Can they look at in the brunt of it soldiers how we Marines cannot win this fight up by themselves as great as these guys are they need. War. Non combatants like I've been saying you know road builders and teachers and money. To help the people outside of Kabul and in these regions in these mom."

" Colonel you know I just read another story in the Washington Post today about how the the Department of Energy has been paying bonuses to contractors. -- for energy savings in buildings that were torn down 456 years ago I mean if they if the Energy Department can't monitor energy use in the United States of America what are these civilian bureaucrats gonna be able to do on Afghanistan."

" I got. Today handed out these I don't Kelsey had to put this incompetent it Department of Energy kept -- and if we as a nation. If you want to have success that can't stand you can't just do it was soldiers. We tried to Iraq it took more than just killing bad guys. There's other things that happen and because you can't kill them all so we're not going to do it again about. Because no one soldier should be dying in Afghanistan or Iraq now. And let the nation gonna be behind it and willing to commit and and nation building -- it didn't look at the bush administration and you guys -- administration. I did not Obama did not want this this shape it is obvious and what we're crystal dead or secretary sent to whoever leaked this report. So as -- gonna keeping -- blame for this. That's that is about business a lot of politics behind desks I think -- I present -- current administration president got a very bad decision. And if you leave that can't stand which is why I think they're going. I think he noted that Democrats can eat it."

" Well if that means it Democrats have bought the next terrorist attack all by themselves right."

" I'd -- what started 9/11 I think we we didn't do it right whether we should stay longer and Afghanistan you know my opinion about Iraq. Yeah you're right but if we abandon the place and I'm hoping what we do it we left would leave an army or marine division there to react. To have -- these bad guys are but. -- that they bit the way don't the only way you can have success in the morning talk about Pakistan next door is you have to commit. And how -- legitimate government doesn't ever want to do this more than just soldiers. -- and where we see -- when you do it we're not gonna put contracts and now wavy. Because of -- or that we're reluctant to contractors -- content up embarrassment and the last couple. What ears yes JavaScript that was what to do and what's called Clorox black article -- want -- know what's -- group with the naked pictures but -- a group by the way. These guys get -- a couple of stores not a big deal exists guys being stupid. But they must get contract."

" Well now you know what's scary is it I mean that -- that story is is bad enough but -- you -- deeper into what they're talking about these insurgency groups like they got this won the hug Connie network. Yes the second main insurgency group that's outlined in the 66 page report that says Al Kate has links links with the Connie have grown suggesting the expand that Connie control could create a favorable environment. Four associated extremist movement to re establish safe havens in Afghanistan."

" I really. Got us. And it's interesting. One of these drug lords and bad -- I'd rather -- in the -- getting -- now warlord what is problems. -- I sadly I identity badges pop siren not to go straight to what do we do what they weren't just what would it -- policy."

" It Karzai stole the election basically right."

" While magic card died while there is a drug -- Karzai -- the election yes. You know like 800 -- don't want to tell a thousand votes to build. And they never existed I mean it was even but it could."

" I -- know acorn was operating in Afghanistan."

" I can't believe you went there but yet they are. And they'll lose their contract. When you have indicated a database back situation fit the only way to get success is due -- something we don't wanna do. Which is commit non combatant I mean like 10000. Not just soldiers and Marines I mean check in now being militias that jump up and down I'm saying if you don't want to do that stop right now to the only way that's that's."

" We -- just have a surge like we had and I Iraq."

" Can definitely different terrain different fighter the other end but now -- much hardly Arab fighter and don't is again in Iraq. We bought the Sunnis -- a mosque that was they wait yeah we had 40000 soldiers and now we we changed the rules of engagement. To be more aggressive and it was successful. And basically it might now work rule limiting the rules of engagement in Afghanistan. Everything we can't -- some of the yet. To listen to go to -- civilians being killed and you've got this very active force going in and out of Pakistan which is optical."

" Do you think sublease or do you think they're really killing that many civilians or is this no one of these cases where whenever they -- somebody they say -- these people were on their way to wedding."

" To combination but we should be worried about it much we are -- limit we can't limit our -- we get past five and anti Iraq. We've finally said okay let's going to be -- guys. And Afghanistan -- playing this card it's not helping us well losing Marines and army guys got some visual engagement. But that's only the combat. I only did he do it can't can't -- between mom -- village would never see. Gillick who wrote the country -- went toward that don't yesterday. -- guests have left in Third World country but."

" Why it seems like it would be that that's why it seems the kernel that it will be simple to take them out from the air. We're also make it hard for them to get around to right."

" The airports could not be blood is shed up to prop the issue is highly that the mom dad since the dot com Heidi and waited and I. Given fighting this kind of war theaters. Beyond this safe haven in Pakistan. We keep -- keep saying. The other they they don't kick him not to cross to wait don't -- call went out. Well they go up into the passes and he can't we do a great job with the air force. -- but that doesn't unmanned vehicles. You can't win buttons you can win it by yourself but from a national standpoint from the US government commitment. Without. Success in -- to connect when insurgency -- guerrilla campaign if you will. And don't think I've ever want it was just force."

" But surely -- I mean I know that the Karzai regime is is co opt in it's not it's terribly run. Due to the people of Afghanistan -- really. A majority of them really want to go back to the Taliban in you know where a woman can't walk outside by yourself for she's gonna get keen that the idea halftime the next soccer game."

" Of course -- this -- and that -- and that personal identity card that government can't protect them. So if you're camping and they and it collapsed so the Taliban to -- intimidation. Comes -- on its way back. For example we have suspended which had tried the six months finally too erratic do some eradication. Of opium poppy what Obama was making 47 million dollars a year of box. As I as supply farming -- When he when he went two -- 3200. -- you can't feel my -- yeah I can't disparagement. And different and then hope that you gotta be eradicate them through this opinion and that. That trade went directly Intel -- embody all the other things. The money. So. With the good administrator problem with the crystal says they're very true. It's it's not a good way to do business having this week but -- today's spike whenever government about the department of defense and the crystal lot going to take the blame."

" This is like an okay figure out it's like it's like a sporting it's like a spore a team it's sports though right I mean what people are winning their not point fingers at each other. So let's just another clear indication that the war's being lost isn't that the fact that there any candidate -- documents."

" And what I mean that is going to be like doctor. There's I -- that you got a lot trouble in a losing cause Iraq. We turned it around. Petition went what what difficult I think we've lost some interest podcast due to Iraq. Uncheck ammunition would not want to do what a Christian talk about and what I am which additional guys. Non combatants we should stop you know I should not be getting killed perhaps faster."

" Now let me ask you personal what are you gonna be on fox talking about this tonight -- fox lost interest though."

" I think everybody hostage to be honest it's a little I'm not so important about this site and on fox one -- cup which at a rally talk about Afghanistan. I don't there's no interest demeanor doesn't move the Nielsen ratings leader doesn't move to right."

" Would rather talk about John Edwards love child. Look that's."

" An idiot fictional blonde which is it yeah that's a mother -- good one yeah get somebody that make it dying. We used to be it former porn star that's going off the right."

" David Hasselhoff just got locked up again for drinking himself Madrid president."

" We have some pictures and -- off the month. So we've got and then got -- how the news this focused on the political aspect. Another question got a great guys in combat -- got involved we got to deploying to Iraq that we. Good -- I don't fifteen months go back to Iraq is resurfaced amid a man kilometre training Iraqi Army would have done. This subject that we should be paying attention these guys and it men and women and whatnot."

" Let's take some calls for a colonel David Hogg 1877469432. To my crystal more forces or quote mission failure on quote that's a front page or in the Washington Post today. By Bob Woodward of all people. Harry Harry -- they went to the bigfoot at the paper to drop this dime. Terrier next with Howie Carr and colonel David Hunt go ahead hairy."

" Have a this is days I think out of the Harry. Let me just say this I we've all seen this movie before. And a couple of guys came back from there were at their rage over the weekend and they are supposed to be training these guys they're actually CIA people. And they told me. And give us down -- very -- these guys. The Afghan forces are better with the Marines and they're allowed -- and I commander allowed the smoke hashish and marijuana but not opening up. And when they get their paychecks they take off -- like well listen we have an expression of military at that time but. There's no like delicate guy from another country just takes off it and now I'd go to the back the following Monday through ticket right."

" And they are not -- it yeah I -- you can't quite -- you know that. But I -- it can't fight it that way."

" But how do you get a hobby what do you how do you still disciplines and then colonel hunt."

" You can't what he's describing this true. Afghan army Sox. And the way we we. Does it work in this way and I'm the Marines and army guys doing it at -- they can. But if there was -- that the Afghan military went great -- it won't -- for ten years. You can't have success. And -- operation like this without the other pieces that have a piece simply no one want to commit to."

" The existing goal is to expand the Afghan army to -- 134000. By December 2011 a crystal seeks to move that deadline to. October of next year. So your sister -- he says he only needs a year your city needs ten years skirt."

" You can put numbers up anytime you want to get in Iraq we can't we get 10000 let's talk about trains. Train the national police don't believe this."

" I mentioned -- that there are only two road this country -- go to war and scandal that's very good cup final amid the after the break up part of my stuff for the Arab. But there's no semblance of an eleven Afghan army we've got I got -- seven years. Working assembly outside trying to train their police and military is not working we didn't concentrate on it. This administration's got left and I don't believe they -- estimates are -- unfortunate because this when that eleven happened. This is important but I don't think the government can't Wellington at Gulfport."

" This about as important as it gets. It's protecting the homeland. Elizabeth I -- next with how we guard colonel David Hunt go ahead Elizabeth."

" Eisenhower tunnel how -- I would graduate 1972. How are -- I wish. It has not -- god everything in the Marines words being -- tapped into it very shortly. Come -- and real warm and I agree about what so we're not. You know you know what I. I'm -- quit your job she isn't cheered them -- it will encourage them."

" Yeah so I mean unless -- made it it imprinted on the helmet. Which -- state of -- Washington headquarters. What Michael did the Marines are doing a great job and probably can't do it by themselves."

" Yeah and now bay extended its orbit from seven month chilly here."

" first want first deployment aren't we are all. Oh yeah I'm Bob what -- chief -- should be great but look at seven here's how eight years yeah Obama song wee we wanna keep doing this. What this woman's daughter. Is it going to Florida got Georgia mailman. -- in themselves -- one is gold and fifteen month call. Top fifty money going to -- to train the Iraqi infantry. By the way -- five point -- is. -- that that you can't get it done this way I -- we've been doing."

" Okay colonel how we got to take a break but thanks for -- where this can we call you back later on -- in the week about that's. Greg thanks like colonel I appreciate it 18774694."