Howie and Bob Curley

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" Where is Jimmy Carter a racist when he called Obama a boy during the election yes of course if you don't if you want to you -- throw wire around the 76%. Agree with you yeah. -- you know I mean the youth if -- you don't. What's good for the goose is good for the gander one man's need the MED is another man's Persian you know -- poison got to get it. All right 18774694322. Now the house is you know is is debating whether or not to. Changed the law on the Senate succession yet again the rumor is that Mike Dukakis is is in line to become the interim senator I'm not making this up folks. Pat Buchanan thought I was I was. Kidnapped yesterday but I did have a stroke he was laughing so hard. He's got such an infectious -- everybody is laughing with that. -- have -- it's one of those things you know you it's it's a good laugh for awhile but you know after awhile the jokes on you. But anyway I mean they you know what -- we all remember about Dukakis as years as governor. Is the way they let they let. Criminals out of prison over and over and over again I'm -- is part about you know Willie Horton you know dud Jimmy the bear Flemmi Steve Neil's brother serial killer he was out all weekend furlough the guy -- federal Rico he got out to be inducted into the mafia. There were all tied 22 girls got killed around our house won't bail because they etiquette guys were out for a -- when they saw -- kill somebody. I was horrible horrible horrible. But now we have a -- now we have another story even before Dukakis becomes the senator this is one of his. One of his I don't know why. Proteges -- issued -- Deval Patrick is now the governor we we have a mere. Near near atrocities happening we -- with a convicted murderer but today. And he may have seen the story on The Herald website -- only gets on the globe website this is an earlier globe story. For so many reasons in a dramatic turn around the states pub pop public safety official has ordered the prison system to reverse its decision. To allow one of little Jeffrey -- lease killers out of prison tomorrow to attend the funeral for his father. Bob -- that's Jeffrey Croatia fought father. Set a department of correction employee called them this morning about 9 o'clock to inform on the state would not allow Charles genes to attend his father's funeral in Brockton mass brawl. -- It was a horrible horrible crimes they -- the -- This guy genes. Kennedy and another guy seltzer carry solvent -- Kerry. They word Jeffrey Curley aged ten. Into their car in October 1997. They promised them a bicycle. Prosecutors said the men smothered the boy with a gasoline soaked rag when he resisted their sexual advances. Jeans and secures a Carre took the boy's body to Manchester, New Hampshire where genes we. Apartment -- molested at the body was then placed in a Rubbermaid box packed with concrete and -- the main river in -- or don't let this guy out. To go to was father's funeral they party let him out before. To go to the funerals of his sister his mother. This is this is outrageous and by the way there was medium -- National North American man boy love association literature in the back -- their car when they were arrested. This is just a horrible horrible crime in their -- they were letting this guy out until until the word got out. Joining us now on the line and it's very painful thing for him to have to go through this over and over again. Is Bob -- the the father of a Jeffrey -- Bob we appreciate -- being with us here on the Howie -- show. -- I'm I'm good Bob I can't believe though that this keeps happening to use to you when your whole family and it's just it's just so horrible light how did you find out about this."

" Oh I can't call somebody in the media. Early last night early in the eight and then bad -- if I believe in applauded and I hadn't heard anything. Little later on I just just person. -- call -- the department of corrections and it'll smoke well -- I think when. When they heard that the media was pick up on this story that he decided they should call me that's."

" Aren't after you get a call from a reporter they they finally have reached and they know you got the call from the reporter they did they finally have the decency to let you know that this is gonna happen."

" Whoa wait it'll update although last full charge that it happened but I have. There have been held a baby oil and you know in the middle of the -- if they were gonna let this -- and -- date yet people don't call or write it. Have a chance to you know response. Nobody in the media was able to pick up on this story -- it was like but -- the word got out."

" So they initially told the last night it was gonna that they were actually gonna do it in it was gonna it was there we're gonna let -- go to was father's funeral in Brockton today right under guard. Right but it but now what then what happened next."

" Well I mean obviously I I let them know my displeasure -- you know art is gonna take appropriate measures you know. -- first comic out as well as my state representative and state senator and in. Project all my friends and and and then numbers and have them do the same thing and and and credit for practice this happen. You know. And if they. And changing how they."

" Actually called to this more they called to this morning right. That the DOC the department of correction called -- this morning and told you that -- that these the visit was canceled."

" Right right. With British what until later on it ought to get Arab when I originally applied. Eye contact with them just bought and that they were just gonna give it it it feels aspires. The arrangements set yes security and everything else. On the -- it's got to get shall gain back and --"

" Also a white a mile under so I thought that he had the pay poured himself for history and we did he know that you went high he US you all about especially you you wouldn't you have to pay. For the guy who killed your son Jeffrey to go to was father's funeral. That's right. Isn't that isn't that nice."

" The -- on you know I mean. -- Quite all there at that the product direction like a budget -- you know what the army killed -- it was -- district seventy our wallets because the rest."

" now where is he he he he's in -- he's in prison itself secure areas still in prison where is to sell slick Kerry."

" I -- carry it down in Florida they -- about -- Protector and popped it up. So they -- him -- quarry then bounced around a little bit but I think he has backed out of Florida. And exchanges started for a lot of well at Romo would not rather than the Quebec you've written a lot -- earlier they're out of remembered that you've written up and they'll. --"

" All all white dorm oh he's the one who claimed a priest molested him and so that's why he became a child molest yeah right. So so James's Roman with a with a another child molester."

" the last I heard I don't know what's going on up yet now but last I heard he was -- I'm here with the third -- you really."

" Yet ducky -- was a -- you'll pardon the expression Mehdi -- worker at a Catholic Church up in Essex County somewhere and he was molesting the kids just like just like some of these horrible priests have gone over the years."

" Yeah I'm not another member and Campbell was that you've written so."

" he was yeah I don't mean this I mean what. We don't have a death penalty in this state and you you know we've talked about this also talked about this over and over again. What what would you like to see it in the absence of a death penalty the the ultimate punishment for the kind of crime they committed against Jeffrey -- your son. What would you like to see happen to secure area and and Jane's."

" Well big big should be in Jupiter -- without even the possibility that they date it will be released -- Chuck -- gave it the worst what it also I was just to tackle launch boats. Yeah it just it was the real bad want to act immediately -- just that bad -- able to pick up that he no dummy. And he gets second -- is eligible for parole I think in another eleven years of parole all. -- I mean people that that does support the death penalty -- this is the type of thing if they'll walk -- and and what -- you know it. It did just that by the well."

" I mean -- mud eight it's just my right -- that he got the that he gets to go out to these to these funerals I mean I know it's not you you know what day at the -- journey been like that but still I mean he's. He's out about. --"

" 88 east June the other our -- he put himself in this situation is not just attempt by you'll. You know. And I'm not a big -- I react united auto -- to what if it may be issuer which it. You know the privilege of the kind of all right but those guys skillet and that the State's four different technological. --"

" I don't like no no I agree I agree not everybody in jail is a monster."

" Yeah up but I just changes just yet so -- worst of the worst in. You know there's no way he should even be considered to have to be set off a -- insert it."

" And the do you get the fuel though that this is this this commissioner Harold Clarke I mean the Clark excuse me -- but. It really the the only. Reason to be canceled this was because the media was onto it."

" Exactly how if say he should go researching while about what the hell happened Iraq over albeit a lot of work that night that. And if he didn't know exactly what happened what changed was. In the -- like the system and and what etc. but horses arrest and everything else. It's eagle -- and he still -- re elect imports and you'll be should be fired."

" Well I guess the other governor that of the governor's people were very cooperative with the media today I mean -- there was no war there was no stolen. You know sometimes with the DOC you get you get to Stonewall. -- it and once that once the word got out today they had they were very cooperative and they they made sure that everybody knew. That the that the release had been not canceled. All rights and brought it well that of course as you know Bob. The election is coming up in about a year from now right. Yeah I end in the ball appears to be a bit of an underdog at this point and I this is not the even even the way it's playing out now I mean this of state flip flops on killers temper her release of me that's lot of good deadline to begin with but at least they tried that. They tried to minimize the damage but I think it was just you know done for political purposes what are you football."

" For whatever reason how we I don't know what -- arguable that -- fight -- got the fallout that I would divert from the department right so. Until sometime later on today what went up with the -- weight -- lot of poverty on -- bad salt. Without the involvement still of of the media you know it would have been business they're cute little Libya without -- ammunition wanted to restore the -- help also Ottawa area. You know that you never -- about."

" We hear so many we hear stories about you you know people come up for parole hearings and the murderers in the idea of the relatives the survivors of the victims. Never hear about it until the night before just like you dead or sometimes they don't hear about it at all."

" That's the -- Thank Howard at -- is bigger better judgment at."

" 1877469432218774694322. If you wanna talk about this for a little bit we just wanted to. I I just like this I eight you don't like to believe what this story just because I don't want the DOC to think people are paying attention to that so much you know taken just you know us Roebuck cover their tracks and it end and think that nobody here first. In issues. It you know this guy this guy AM this -- CE you know he he's the -- he was in Concord for awhile alright. Then there where there were rumors that he supposedly was getting and literature so we're those rumors true or not did you know Bob."

" I don't I don't know if it was brought up -- you're from normal resources there were all but -- he was it might kick in their from different. Organizations. And people on. Child molested -- and that's that the thing where I I don't know it's one -- but. I mean -- were -- From a -- a different sources that there."

" It it. 18774694322. -- talking to Bob -- he's the the the father of Jeffrey Curley was little boy who was a kidnapped off the street Cambridge showed twelve years ago. The end in murdered by these these these -- amber what types these pedal filed. Child molesters and they just let that kid they they. They suffocated him with a gasoline soaked rag and then not molested his body in the through through the body into into the river in -- enough -- in Maine. It's just day it's just a horrible story and the guy the guy has already been let out. To attend funerals for his sister and his mother it was gonna get out today to go to war funeral for his his his father Edward. -- Jack Jane it's cold Jack that's his nickname. Who he died last wins the -- Vienna. It was gonna be hell but I was gonna be held in he was going to the funeral will be held him in Brockton do you think a couple of calls your Bob you wanna talk to yet. -- at 18774694322. Chris you're next with Howie -- in Bob -- father of the late Jeffrey -- go ahead."

" Yeah I just thought I'd try give mr. Curley a lot of credit then about people's Bilbray and inspect the bottom every day EM back. It almost two weasels they go ride every single day at their lives I hope they lift the."

" Let's let's hope there are Kress I mean he again you know we get James comes up for parole in eleven years."

" Well that's so that's stereo that's a sham anyway because somebody block imaginative but there's people out there he's not gonna last -- come out. Have a good day."

" Thanks for the call Chris 177. Fort. The scariest thing of all -- and I -- I don't figure for the death penalty area."

" No no I'm not out."

" That the president the problem though is that you know you could have some not the governor you can have that you could have a -- governor -- defeated for reelection and just decides to show his true colors. So to speak admit you know becomes the did decides that he's -- he's going to start pardoning these people I mean it'll clear I mean I don't I know what's gonna happen most secure when the ball is seeking reelection he would say it never -- anyway. But he had governor has the right to pardon somebody like that's."

" Well what is scary thing in my district that would know what the political -- it's going to be. But it's not a lot of good stuff."

" 1877469432. To build your next with Howie Carr and then Bob -- father Jeff curly go ahead bill."

" Hey Bob are really sort of hear that your loss. Probably couple are -- now we're really -- me is I'm retired military. And I've had a lot of -- Meyer met. Who couldn't make your home repair -- funerals myself included are few occasions. I'd just -- money constraints what have you. And how is it that -- spam. Ordered distributor her -- what have -- out what the bills produced got a total funeral at what point does it become a civil right for prisoner. To get to go to her funeral. When we -- law abiding citizens can't do that just blows my mark."

" Yeah outlook double yellow wanted to big thing it really. Orbit -- me last night. I want iPod a lot of what does that mean away -- quiet and it's all gonna emergency -- you'll -- a military -- you -- the a convicted child lost already at number arrive at what that would. -- what's up what doubt but. Yeah. It's."

" You're right this is is all he made his own choice bought. Ed Ed this is the this is the situation he finds himself fitted and you're right bill he's got more he's got more rights than somebody in the military."

" Aren't aren't real. No it every time a law abiding citizen does something -- run into our hard situation. There's not from the ball back on -- you know on your breath all you're an illegal aliens whatever the case they they. The folks are doing the wrong always get to retreat. Or did they get free --"

" Bob the CEO -- a lawyer is he feisty one of these guys who's filing these endless appeals to get out so at least he gets a trip to the courthouse downtown."

" I don't know it does terrible lawyer guy I know he. What a lawyer with the but it's why -- who would go. And I."

" Well Robert Juba and bill who ran against Kelli tell multi for the governor's council last year."

" What it is dead end Juqua -- that Robert --"

" Yes. She has solved. He's got a couple sweetheart clients down their one sweetheart clamp down on the cape right now to the guy who are killed his 'cause a night -- allegedly killed his cousin."

" And -- know he's not built from the repetition that that you go -- it's not that data off. Defense lawyer can hit December the other -- that was yeah the rap on and the next -- I do expect we'll."

" Now face face for the call -- dog your next choice okay thanks thanks to the calls you don't -- Cuban goes still represented humor not."

" No I I don't think is that when he can help tourists is appeal he yum. At a public defender when I don't know for he has aware or not but I will say -- is no dummy so he's got a lot of time to be get -- Laporte there are."

" They got a constitutional rights to a law library bug you know that aren't sure -- it we've all are those decisions. Doug you're next with how we guard Bob curly go ahead Doug."

" Eight general and I -- good you know you know of course that ACLU has gone to bat for gamble in the past. And I pointed that out to a liberal friend of mine one time I always say it was old they defend a lot of controversial groups. But you know I. I don't I don't don't I mean they got no absolutely no morality or decency about the whatsoever how anyone could support that organization is beyond me."

" well they picked a wicket oh loss -- a few years -- it doesn't have -- there was my lawyers there's always go against the CI you'll. You know I -- I do respect people who. You know what they got to force in order you'll want to stand up and -- you know. They've made it into it and so what are they see it but. Yeah you know what you are not being hypocritical on pick and choose. You know what what you want so what you wanna do what you -- defense was --"

" Which feature and and Bob Bob I am correct in saying that the win when that car was with C impounded by the police station where where you're son was murdered. They found nimble literature in the back seat correct yeah. Thanks for the call -- 1877469432. To our next our next us senator. Mike Dukakis used to brag about being a card carrying member of the ACLU. As we were talking about yesterday Tony your next with Howie Carr and Bob curly go ahead Tony."

" I gotta tell you one when this particular crime happened enough and -- bought it is much is this what I thought this would be -- is they had ever seen. How does the guy who -- much bridge at ten year old murders them and dispose of the child its second degree murder."

" Who has good question Bob yeah yeah I'll see what would happen what he had very good defense lawyer Robert -- Roosevelt -- the defense Oreo. In -- late this system you know he. Other acute event you'll. It -- that it's while before. We before Christmas so syllable or sympathetic -- I think -- swallowed be a pretty good and it'll. -- was it not while. It was anxious to get to wild -- what maybe we hope we got a little bit -- politics spirit you know right before Christmas and and outside the bank and I guess you know he's got a better deal and got a better deal answer our that this."

" Thanks for the call Tony 18774694322. The F -- Bob you -- cigarette takes more calls."

" All I don't. --"

" OK great we'll take a -- take a break if you wanna talk to Bob -- again the the the in this case in the media did it's did at did -- job. And does stopped at the end the release of James. From getting getting -- was -- father's funeral he was supposed to be released today under under guard to go down to -- to his father's funeral but it does it did not happen. And that because the media got word of it we're talkin' to walk. Bob Curley who was the father of Jeffrey Curley the ten year old boy who was murdered by Jane since a card back in 19971. Of the one. The most horrific murders in and I didn't live a long history of Massachusetts. 1877469432. To -- our car."

" isn't known -- dog dirt is. 1877469432. True. It's just. It never ends did not just in Massachusetts but. Everywhere it seems like the coddling that goes on of of vicious criminals. Doesn't seem to ever slop in this case Charles James about as bad as you -- they gamble up. Person certainly a reader of -- literature I don't know that I you know what this."

" A pervert a had a file -- molest. Picked up a small ten year old boy with -- another per of named seltzer carry off the streets of Cambridge in 1997. The government -- car by saying they were gonna give -- a bike. And once they got him in the car they they think they kill them. And they they more genes molest them. And that. And then they they put his body and and -- in a drama and a weighted down through it and to but title river. Off of offer Bridget Maine just 66. Story now a guy is in Bridgewater. James Charles James is in Bridgewater. And according to Bob -- he's roaming with another. Horror of another somewhat famous per -- guiding ducky Riordan who was a but I -- a layperson working at the Catholic Church in that I imitating some of Leo worst priests of of recent years. And this and other roommates together James was supposed to get out today to go to was father's funeral would have been of the at least the third time he's been out for funeral he's -- he's been released previously to attend funerals for sister's mother again -- have mom I'm gonna say -- totally released. He easy you know we see he's under guard supposedly you want high end and Bob -- his father. His Jeff curly slate thought I'd go what the father Foley Jeffrey -- were picking up the tab progress but the media got a tip. And the visit did the visit to it to the outside has been canceled today so we're talking to while Bob curling in just talking about the fact that the that this this sort of thing goes on. And on and on Bob. You know you sale eleven years from now or you could be looking at a a parole hearing for a for Charles James. Now. Do you deal or get any reports either row official or unofficial about what James is up too went in prison."

" Pulled out. We have body is Bob is Bob on the line you there Bob I'm sorry deal do you get any reports Bob about the -- and it's a curry erupted when president."

" No not really I have a very big -- are analogue. I did the last sight of the boat and it. The -- city would get money from. Some Arab people honey we get money and that's what it is it in and up. And of course the -- global vacuum written out yeah but -- not so much with Obama and not."

" Well it's so this is just that you know it's just. You don't we all know that that that we all know the media gets tips from it in there because the the people or tip from offers discussed -- with this is there is members of the general public. And I just -- I just don't understand why the kid wet weather big. You know. Again we come back the bill -- and he didn't really do would much more than any other governor but at least he talked a good game you know we -- want to reintroduce prisoners to the joys of Boston rock. And it it doesn't look good doesn't seem to me like Charles -- is Boston too many rocks."

" All right well if they are right up -- he looked pretty wallop they're from what I --"

" 1877469432. To jog your next with Howie Carr in Bob curly go ahead John."

" Good afternoon yelled -- Yeah I -- I call our car should say they can immediately due and stopping for -- come this isn't the first very first mister curry -- You know among our creative breaks viewing it failed because it -- I've I've thought of Archer's son hold that baseball doubt that -- Latin. Well what it would appear allocated yet there's there been any live vicariously through your spirit -- a -- Well my question why you very much there was the -- did go after. I'm Yale like you do in years past my question is is there anything you could do not to expose whoever that dealers say it is asinine decision. To even consider releasing for his father who can do with the decision to Egypt and his mother is in his sister's funeral I -- that just beyond make."

" Yeah I I don't know won't get it I I don't know who is responsible for a lot kind of what I was told by the -- to present himself forward -- signed off on it. -- apparel artful so it's one made it fallen down."

" Is he from Massachusetts Bob I mean was he here in 1997. To -- that -- know any of the details of this case."

" Yeah I don't all Ollie but I mean if it's gonna make a decision like that I mean you should. I mean -- it -- check in the with you know and edit in what happened Eric. And in those not an accurate."

" I I agree -- if if somebody one of his underlings who was around here than aka life for a the year steal so to speak at the DOC. Knew that this was comin' down and -- what didn't give them a heads up that night he was well served by Yahoo! however gave him the file. --"

" Do we lose. We lose Barbara do we lose. They are okay that you OK sorry -- do we lose jobs okay so -- John John you're back glad yeah. Yeah you're there you're wrong."

" Yes there are gonna get better over there in America they could explode these people and that the other states. -- little -- there like I applaud the treaty chip into occasional problem there's going to be able lowered. -- just. Just they were there existence based wanna throw open my -- You know away you know something that people are also collected -- happened I was sort of picture every kid go to anybody's -- happy catalyst of this rip rap has. And I'm sure I'd like to predict right Leo gridlock -- he's so fat slob. -- you back then it is going to be dead wrong person I'm sure."

" all right but I I I I don't know we look -- I was fortunate 88 but. Well you're probably pretty low on -- I have done as it."

" Yeah I remember when now what was it's a Kerry was up in the Essex County house of correction. And they they said they couldn't put them in the general population because he would've been. That. A victim of physical violence so they had to live and up in the infirmary. -- had a he had at the basically had a private -- what are amounted to -- end that did the -- which at the guards would have to go down to the commissary to get him whatever forty -- they admit it was like almost like me and and hotel."

" It out all affiliation I mean it guy in prison and a lot of your Brothers and sisters children of them they're wrong and they're not -- to keep an eye on -- people like that. It could be monitored closely followed this is."

" Thanks thanks for the call John remember that's what the sheriff said you know I understand you know you you don't you don't wanna be the guy who oversees another case like with father gig in getting getting killed but on the other hand -- it's just the it's the everything is back porch you know I mean the worst crime you commit the better treatment you get because they say they can't what -- in the general population. Kevin you're next with Howie Carr and Bob curly go ahead that Kevin."

" Political guys. I almost bought my card actually America is still remember beat certain that they had to told that there that its underside and it is no there's no worst singer I ever heard on the radio to be honest with them. I've and I was I was happy that was there was an epic it will rebel force of the -- what I wolf is. I consider. -- myself what what what a lot of lot of damage in the rebel or just home. And get the people responsible forward obviously. -- remember other -- also correct but didn't you come out against strongly against the death penalty. Yes yes they did yeah yeah I don't I don't understand ready to do ready must be a big amendment needed. What are what happens if this guy a special treat just doesn't get paroled in eleven years I mean."

" Tore apart and Kevin he could be again its its -- I know what it seems like something would never happen but. A lot of strange things happen especially in the last days of body of a lame duck governor."

" Yeah I all I mean goblet generally you could come out against the death penalty as strong as it did. They might not with your brother. Let's step back."

" Becky you're next with Howie Carr and Bob -- father of Jeff curly go ahead --"

" I'd say I'd like your show for years and the first time I've been compelled them off worshipping angry enough to call. First of -- my heart -- I can't even imagine what you're living with every -- that make me wanna -- just thinking about it. Who. I -- my question is who. Ultimately has the decision to decide. Whether she could have gone to the funeral and I."

" They're commissioner of that the other direction barrel what respectful."

" But Doug don't you think Bob that you you know if these guys are called on the carpet if they were to go around to other state house to testify in front of -- hearing they'll say. We have all the rules regulations and according to you know rule sixteen paragraph B. You know this is this is allowable. Right."

" I don't know how we army as far as I know we had the discretion. See you be given thumbs up or bomb laden. He decided to give it the best stuff."

" So utterly distraught and then when it was getting it when the news got out he gave at the thumbs down. Yeah. What would you like to see happen to the commissioner --"

" don't even -- I just I think you need to be kind. But this says they Harold Clarke is his name Gerald -- and this is true indeed they were just the first I'm not from from from Massachusetts is the present name is Bridgewater. "

" You know knowing the prison he's it is 8 AM he's dead Bridgewater the Charles changes at Bridgewater what's week there's several Bridgewater Bob which one is he had."

" I'm not exactly sure how what what -- that he and down here -- just yet I don't know."

" And yet. Okay thanks Becky thanks for the call we gonna take a break Bob we really appreciate you being -- this again I know this so every so beloved club -- bad memories for you -- not again are our condolences and our sympathies for the family and I'm I'm glad that at least. It has this this part of the story at least have a somewhat. Not a happy ending but at least there were some justice in the -- again."

" All right I know world war all right you know there's no want to know what's -- him so we've we do all right we cannot -- every area. Thanks."

" They -- thank you Bob thanks for being whether I'll buy 187746. And."