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" will be okay. He argues not over the discussion is not over the debate's not over the legislative process is over they expected. Party. Again and contrived almost entirely by you yeah."

" I know there's been a lot of misinformation in this debate for those of folks out there who were. Frankly very false witness but I want you want to know what helped the trust reform is all."

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" Good afternoon my name is how -- car I do not bear false witness hide their true witness. And I'm not like the others are you could trust me. 1877469432218774694322. That is the toll free number of how we car show if you would like to join us here this afternoon. And every weekday afternoon. If you would like to listen to a show on the Internet you can always do so go to our website which is how we cart dot com Howard -- about com click on the life. Audio streaming and also what how we cart dot com you can take partner daily Internet poll question. But how we poll was brought to you by Jeff Carbone insurance contact the commissioner Jeff Carbone insurance dot com to save money on your auto and home insurance. Jeff Carbone insurance dot com to save money on your auto and home insurance. And of course we're going to be talking about this there's this latest. Naked political ploy by the Kennedy family. Two was two to change the law that they want it changed back in 2004. When Mitt Romney said that he was going to appoint me to the United States senate. Unified John Kerry was elected president. And the legislature and a naked bill of attained or changed a loss so admit could appoint anybody -- me or anyone else. Thank god it was a moot point. I didn't have to go to court to fight it because. John Kerry did not become president however now. Ted Kennedy. Who is we all know is extremely sick could even go to was sister's funeral last week they've moved up the publication date of his -- To September 14. To exit the -- from self. Didn't accept the medal over the congressional medal of freedom the highest on her a civilian can receive the United States. He is now sent a letter. Two was Governor Patrick and the legislative leadership speaker -- Leo and senate president Murray. Asking that the law. That he pushed oil. Be changed again if so that there could be an interim. Senator appointed to fill -- the vacancy. -- what is the poll question I mean -- this is this a very complicated story but you know I think I've. I'll explain if further we go along here but -- what is the poll question and one of the results thus far should the law that was put in place to keep Harry out of the Senate be repealed protect an -- to pick a successor. Absolutely not. So say 88%. OK all right one."

" An 8774694322. I am writing to you now about an issue that concerns me deeply. But continuity of representation for Massachusetts should vacancy occur what he means is. That you should do a vacancy occur there's a five month process I think it's two months to a primary election. For the Democrats and Republicans and then the two who. The two finalists the two last candidates that of the nominees of their party would have three months to campaign. So for five months there would not be the United States it was senator for Massachusetts. But again the the there is somebody ironies in this it. He didn't hear about this in. 2004. Bit this bill that bit set up the system that I just outlined. Was proposed in 2004 and it was languishing in committee was going nowhere. So he called up. Bobby -- the president of the Senate Bob travel -- bad -- attempt to push it to rope and they didn't push it tomorrow. And they took away Mitt Romney's right to a point to any US senator. And sold the Republicans. In the house said. Well why don't we have an amendment to the measure and it will let the governor. Appoint an interim senator. Until last five months. Kid and go buy a NN a new senator can be elected. And all the Democrats voted against that so now Ted Kennedy is asking."

" All the Democrats who voted against giving the governor the right to a point and in terms senator. He's asking them -- to vote for. All the Republicans who wanted to give the governor the right to appoint an interim senator are now opposed to it. Deed to you are you -- math. So basically what this boils down to -- Ted Kennedy. Is asking the legislature. To overturn. A law that he got past personally. In 2004. In order that one of the most unpopular governors in the history of Massachusetts Deval Patrick. Cannot appoint a -- stay apple who might in the keyword is my eight. Be the vote needed in the US senate to ram through Obama I care even involved. An ever increasing majority of Americans don't want it. -- that's well isn't that nice not. 18774694322. That's the toll free number of the Howie -- show receiver but Lisa Weaver got four lines already to discuss this we have an ABC crew would news crew will be here shortly I don't know if -- well how much or use or not but that they want the combined get some response. Now they were to be joined right now by yet John fund from The Wall Street Journal. And diocese he he's there John thanks for joining us here on the Howie -- show. Thank you always and good good -- good catch -- of kept finding the the reference and obscure globe story. To the to the fact that Ted Kennedy is the guy who initially pushed this legislation throw."

" Well it's amazing because in 2004. Ted Kennedy had a completely different perspective it's. On this senate succession."

" On the car audio representation for Massachusetts that is an issue that concerns him deeply -- he says."

" Well big concerns him deeply now and I feel bad believe that Turkey is problems so we all. But the point is the law's the law and to change it just on the whim of what you think it's going to benefit major party. Is not what a democracy or republic should be about."

" I eight. I just I can't that I can't imagine that the that he that he's getting himself involved in this whole thing issues as you also said in Europe posting in The Wall Street Journal like quarter you my column in The -- for tomorrow is. The -- the original legislation the current vogue these the the law that now -- and senate vacancies in Massachusetts. Which keep corporate which he pushed -- if it'd been an effect in 1961 he probably never would've served in the Senate because I was too young to --"

" If the law that he wants applied in 1961 brother was elected president here's what happened at Kennedy -- resigned his senate seat his brother. And there obviously would have been. A gubernatorial appointment. And that would have been of course somebody other than Ted Kennedy because he was too young to serve and then you would have gone to an election in 1960. Leader in 1961 and can -- have been eligible to asserted that can run an election."

" But now he thinks it's a great idea."

" Well it's astonishing because all of this is about pure partisanship. In 2004 they were worried that John Kennedy was going to win the White House and every time the colts to carry. John -- is gonna win the White House that we have been to the problem the Republican -- appointed -- the United States senator who knows about it and you Hollywood's most well."

" There promised -- to -- for exactly that out yes. And."

" That would of meant of course disaster Republicans serving military central Massachusetts. Well they pass the long lived through over Romney's Vito. So now it's five years later and suddenly they wanna change the law campaign. Because they're worried activist Ted Kennedy doesn't show up for the Senate to vote for health care they won't have the sixty votes to put off a filibuster. That would be horrible to simply pass the bill without. To the Marshall sixty Democrats are no Republicans voted for it so now they wanna change the law so that they guarantee either the cash Ted Kennedy. Shuffles off this mortal coil and leaves us. But democratic side to be right there immediately to Ferrari that six you -- to break the filibuster."

" Well here's another thing John I watched Kent Conrad -- budget senate budget to achieve the -- fox on Sunday. And he said that there were never any vote never enough votes in the Senate to pass that the past Obama care. And they're certainly aren't enough votes after all these town hall meetings. So this is this looks to me like some kind of long shot anyway that -- of that as far as I can see -- not even close to sixty. So what is what's the big rush here."

" Well excuse me they're not the closest sixty with a public option but there are already changing the terminology. Calling for a co -- which is a nice warm and fuzzy word. That would be a watered down public optional -- government run health care plan. That would might that would give more support -- And if they don't do that they'll still have the employer mandate they'll still have the tactical try to push through. Regardless of whether or not -- get a 100% of what they want whatever they're trying to get the sixty votes didn't is not good for our health care it's probably gonna be much movement largely modeled after the Massachusetts plan. Which you know is just doing wonders and that's state to solve the healthcare problem."

" Yes yes it's the emergency room -- the practice speaking English area right I'm -- John. So it is so might my -- feeling here is only human I'm sure you've been talking to us embassy people I've been talking to what. I don't I think. I don't think this is Scott much of a chance of going through. I think there's -- there's another thing that that I find puzzling John. Is the date on the letter. You've noticed that right July I have to -- not go the date on the actual letter opened the PDF file. The data on the letter is July 2. Now all what to talk so long if you wrote a letter on July 2 and they're saying that the letter was just delivered at the state house. This week. Who are there are they gonna blame the US Postal Service I don't think so I I think 'cause someone's been sitting on this letter -- wonder what is this all about."

" Or conceivably the letter was delivered a long time ago which only now come to life."

" Right but that they're they're claiming that they they're claiming it just arrived that's their story and their stake until it."

" Well look it. We know sadly that senator Kennedy's bill we just don't know how old are you did not show up first sister's funeral. He did not show up for the medal of freedom ceremony of -- crisis and an honor of the White House who didn't show up for the road and Sonia Sotomayor. The Supreme Court justice. We don't know. Exactly how old feel he is and as a result. Now it's six weeks sent that letter was written. Six weeks ago they didn't think they would meet the sixtieth vote perhaps as much as they need it now. So who knows what political machinations are taking place behind the scenes."

" That's another question John who isn't you know as you know Governor Deval Patrick is extremely unpopular. His his only chance probably for reelection is to keep the formally democratic state treasurer in the race for governor and try to split the anti vote but even then he's an underdog. Chances are currently stay at least there's a probability. There are -- possibility that there will be a Republican governor -- 2011. In Massachusetts or an independent. Who used to be a Democrat. Now suppose they passed this bill. And do it again changed the rules in the middle of the game now if there is a non Democrat governor in 2011 are they gonna change the rules again."

" Why not. What's to stop them. They have an overwhelming majority in the legislature it's veto proof -- I think to build this circus remember this is the same legislature that when they bought a bunch of signatures and from voters saying they wanted to referendum. I'm gay marriage asked the legislature basically talked to clock out and told us citizenship local stuff so it -- So they're capable of just about anything up from Beacon Hill."

" They are they are that's the that's the whole thing but I mean that they had the candy. In its I would be the first time that Ted is really making it be making them look like idiots here you know. I mean fight -- he keep twist their arms and get -- to pass this bill five years ago again as you pointed out. He makes the personal call to the Senate president the bill is dead dead in the water and committee. He he resurrect the bill Owen pushes it through to prevent a Republican from getting in and that there was a moot point. As Kerry lost now now he wants to change it. I just I mean this I mean I know the Kennedys have gotten away with a lot over the years but this is just this is just so naked what they're up to."

" Well self respecting legislate Taurus. I think I'm Beacon Hill are worried that this will just appear to crash into self serving. The kind of leadership I think that they really have to start questioning. Because his good word leading them by the nose to do this remember all these members basically just totally leadership told them I think it's time for the members to say you know. At some point we have to. We're going to lose our -- political man order a woman who was here. At some point we we literally have to prove that we're not just you know part of clips."

" Yeah -- well you know they used to be a democratic state senator from Springfield imbalances sits you and he said he -- most of these guys you could buy with a water cooler. Then I think if anything it's gotten worse since he said that that's probably combined with a couple water now and they won't."

" You know -- to require some water."

" That's. How. I guess the thing to do at this point is just too wise it is just to start if you see -- legislator. You know if you happen to be a wet T shirt contest tonight you know when -- and mister chairman is is on the bar stool next DO may -- you should mention it to one. That the -- that you do you think this is a pretty steamy deal. But it's that's -- that's being proposed here by the -- beat the Kennedy family the thing is you know at least they keep saying they say. Well Vicki Kennedy that lately this story to the globe which you know has been carrying water fro for a Ted Kennedy since the beginning of his career you know when they eat when they come about. You played down the Harvard cheating scandal Ted did Jack Kennedy got big got the editors of the globe to play the story below the fold would only get two or three column headline. An -- now it's it's gone full circle it's the end of Ted Kennedy's career it could -- will be the end of the Boston Globe within the next it it in its present form -- the New York Times -- it and there's still don't know the exact same thing Kerry and as water and they're also tell us John. That led Vicki Kennedy does that's what a lot of people suspicious suffer they trying to greased the skids for his wife from Louisiana Vicki Reggie Kennedy. And he says and they say well no that's not the case now we're not doing that."

" How we I think we should give a global little bit more credit after -- you know captains would go down with the ship come -- they're going governorship. -- should admire them perished loyalty loyalty so it's just such a great human character trait."

" You mean other people might be tried to establish their journalistic. As reds. Credit and you know try to do so my hard hitting reporting rather than just go into the satchel one final time for this. Family."

" If you've been on the tank for so long why not stay on the thank."

" Yeah I guess it's hard it's hard to breathe once you've been in the tank for about -- I I just I am just amazed though that they would say I was talking to somebody today you know lead Ted Ted says in this letter. That what he wants is that he wants the governor to obtain a quote explicit personal commitment that's a direct quote a letter."

" That's not exactly a legal concept and familiar well."

" And an explicit personal commitment we're very familiar with explicit. Or personal commitments in Massachusetts and."

" John -- of personal commitment that the governor of Massachusetts apparently gave to John F. Kennedy that he would appoint. Kennedy's old college roommate of the Senate seat back in 1960 I sent explicit personal commitment that you worked like a charm because it got Ted Kennedy is senate seat to -- later could look through -- of John F. Kennedy didn't run again."

" Well mostly of some more -- that it personally explicit personal commitments like congressman Marty Meehan. Promised in 1992 that he would only run for three terms of many would retire. And interest that we can you don't -- operative and and then of course mayor mumble Menino of Boston. In 2001 he told us this was this was going to be his last campaign in 2001. Come -- come to Boston John and I'll show you while -- reelect -- Menino signs over every bucket of blood in the city."

" Did you see donors simply took all the depends on what the meaning of the work campaign has since he's basically gonna be elected by acclamation just not really a campaign because it's just. Unanimously."

" The other thing -- where -- you know I mean and again I I don't mean to be morbid here but it this this they do it if if Ted Kennedy should pass the funeral is gonna go on for awhile was meant in. In at the end of the funeral I mean I think that in if say Vicki Kennedy war and again they say that she's not interested in Indian -- more there are that permanent Phil and if she were the interim senator. She would be extremely hard to defeat in a regular election and win how are you going to what get her to walk. As you say on her her explicit personal commitment you think the secretary of state is going to sue. The widow of Ted Kennedy after a two week long funeral to to get off the ballot."

" Well that may be the one reason the legislature decides not to go along with first deployed there are so many people who've been waiting for senate seat in Massachusetts for so long after all both senators have been -- 25 years or more. That they might just simply tell what their friends of the legislature. Look track -- maybe it's time for some competition. Maybe we should actually let people run against each other for this seat may be that the voters are different choices once and a while it is not a horrible awful lot."

" That it. It's it it goes against everything in their bones assuming they have backbone to molecular."

" There -- a lot of ambitious politicians who would lose out. If this ploy you were to work -- put through. And the scenario you outline happened."

" The other thing John as you speak to John fund from The Wall Street Journal will get your calls interstate just a couple minutes more here. That and and another thing John is that. For these people in the constitutional office state constitutional offices in the in the congressional delegation. This is what what they call on politics a free shot. You know they don't have to give up their current jobs if there's a special election early -- early late this year or early next year. Right so this you write this -- this not only is this there one chance for an open senate seat this is definitely the one chance of a lifetime. Four and -- seat where they can they can run for higher office and not give up their current office. Yeah it is going to be a stampede for it to what to run."

" And that's why people would not necessarily trust any explicit personal commitment Governor Patrick Quinn played because it might not be you might not be able -- remember it's not illegal document. It's simply an exclusive personal commitment you can't -- take it to the bank --"

" Hi I'm gonna I am gonna predict that this bill does not go through her that they did this proposal does not go through what are you what is your prediction John fund."

" Only if we say. It would be a bad instead of ending that Ted Kennedy's political career if this kind of -- commissioned this kind of ploy was the thing. That he did the close up his career that this is how I see I like I think what has to be laughed out of court out of out of the legislature. Well there's just too much to --"

" But it will sit in my producer sandy says the chief she thinks he has nothing to do what that's that he has not he's not. Really in an."

" Evidence becomes even -- Then it becomes a proclamation -- spoke to a close but I am ashamed at I don't wanna believe that I think there will be even --"

" Woodrow Wilson's wife as you know was he has yet he -- Gault had basically was the president for a couple of years and the people go we wanna see the president he's not he's not available right I don't."

" Outlook I don't buy that and I -- but it would that would be even sadder."

" Okay John fund to help by the -- can gradually I didn't realize that he only got 53% of the vote the first time in 1962 when he was running against one of lodges. I didn't they --"

" So the Georgia watched -- came very close to actually beating them in 62 even those brother was president. Even those are the best democratic years in the history of the country."

" right after the Cuban missile crisis I with a lot of good feeling about -- the Kennedy family in the the democratic administration. It was one of those rare occasion I believe the Democrats actually -- the incumbent party actually picked up seats in congress in the first the first midterm after an election right. Yeah yeah. John fund we appreciate you being whether some thanks for a thanks for getting all that stuff into the onto The Wall Street Journal. Dot com we're working people are read -- Iran."

" If they go to opinion journal dot com that's our free site for the opinion section and confined to right -- opinion journal --"

" we've got a link on our website John fund thanks for being with us here this afternoon on the how we car show. Okay 187746943221. H I will tell you what door to one more call one call before go to the break ever we're gonna get everybody's calls a man in just a -- I want to set up it is kind of complicated if you walk. If you haven't have been now been reading the papers are on the Internet this morning -- and this afternoon a day it did it may be -- Then your next with Howie -- go ahead --"

" Eight hours. It's it's not complicated at all you mr. fun just just exploited brilliantly it's it's about one thing the Democrat party want to maintain a chokehold on Massachusetts and they don't care for it looks bad or self serving because they know the media gonna get -- And present company excluded. And the people of Massachusetts present company excluded are either too blindly. People for the Kennedy name are too stupid to care."

" That's a guy I wish the ABC crew were your band because you just saw a huge sum that up very very not the backup but. Starter there's there's been some thunderstorms here -- Boston sorry about that Dan who -- and it's a huge 74694322. Officer Rex you're next with how we cargo ahead officer acts."

" Holly refresh my memory can all in my early -- that -- members but wasn't there -- state legislature that changed though aren't motor vehicle homicide. This sounds better that put applauded a -- and then after us that we investigated that changed a lot back. My vehicle homicide with -- and an automatic indictment and had to go to trial. -- that state."

" Had a huge. Officer -- you're you're such a senate the next and the next thing you know you're gonna be telling me that this is that there are certain. There are certain politically connected Duffy in ways that were allowed to while violate the Halstead act back during prohibition days with him complete impunity. In immunity. Don't. -- I hear that down on the -- some members of certain families. Don't even have to observe the fireworks laws win. The rest of us who try to come back from New Hampshire with with fireworks for the fourth of July where were stopped and I give enough citations. If not a lot of hauled off to jail in handcuffs."

" And other dangers even more so when you got flammable market up."

" You know officer actually just occurs to me that do we know one thing I I don't know how all the twins are speaking of fireworks Joe Kennedy's twins but I they're not quite thirty years old. So if you set this deal up in -- doesn't -- you could may be put Joe. The former congressman from this area Brighton. The end for it in for a few months and and kinda keep the seat warm but I did stay they still wouldn't be thirty don't five months I don't thanks I guess that's that's a nonstarter thanks for the call officer Rex. 18774694322. On Howie -- 18774694322. We're talking about the the -- that Ted Kennedy has written to the governor in the legislative leadership. He wrote it on July 2 -- says the date on the Letterman didn't arrive until this week so that that's another. A mystery here and I whose gonna answer the mystery where it what took so long to similar. There why isn't so important it."

" Why is it's so important now that we have the continuity of representation for Massachusetts win. He specifically. Wanted. The bill passed in 2004 that's now law. That denies the continuity of representation. For Massachusetts. This is the issue that quote so concerns me deeply. House minority leader Brad Jones of -- will have them on tonight at it's right after the 6 o'clock news. Said the proposal was based not on quote what's best for the whole commonwealth but what's big but based on what's best for one political party young quote. The hypocrisy is astounding if we have a he Republican governor right now would we be getting the same letter. You know if this was so important why did they take it up when they weren't session why didn't -- Kennedy's people know that though the legislature was -- going on recess in in late July. Now they either an informal session every once in awhile but he when you're an informal session. One person that can object one member can object and stop the whole proceeding so I assume nothing's gonna happen for for awhile so why do what is the what's the big deal annual the other thing if you -- again I I don't mean to be morbid here. But if Ted Kennedy knew that that it was almost over for him. He could've written a letter of resignation. For down the -- mean Marty Meehan say what you will about them. He rolled when he decided to become the chancellor of UMass Lowell resigned from the House of Representatives. The day the the the political leaders said we don't wanna have -- have an election in the middle of the summer. And he and why don't you resign later than that you could putting your letter of resignation and the clock will start ticking and we can have our primary in our general election. After Labor Day in the fall when everybody's back from their vacations in the kid during school and he agree with that they could've done the same thing with Ted Kennedy now all of a sudden we're being told that that the law. His own law -- to be changed and it's it's it's a big rush now now that Obama care is is fading. In it in its legislative prospects on Capitol Hill. Bob your next with Howie -- go ahead Bob."

" how we are pure release sunrise -- they're going apparently law. And how about two hypotheticals part of which you stole my thunder about Patrick appointing himself to. Or. --"

" The ball Deval Patrick he means that I you mean you read Deval Patrick right yeah yeah. Why I don't think there would be anything to stop Deval Patrick from the U -- so then the so that Deval Patrick could give himself an explicit personal promise that that he thought the question going to what -- wasn't gonna seek election. And then he would go and then he would does break his own promise to himself to be great Bob. That's -- that I like that scenario you know Charlie Crist in Florida is going through the same thing right now you know Mel Martinez says has resigned and does some people are telling Charlie Crist a Republican governor of Florida who's running for the seat that he should appoint himself senator right now so we can be an incumbent. I had it you'll Deval Patrick even even in a three man fight is it probably going to be an underdog next year to be reelected now. Alike that when the Obama -- a -- already I say set I think I think Joe Kennedy. People I get mixed reports on Joe Kennedy some people say. That he likes being the head as citizens energy that you know Michael Kennedy has hit his up had a file brother who's now deceased. You don't jacked up the pay of its of the president of citizens energy up to around 6700000. Dollars plus they've got all the other we're. The the other operations go that Iran and out of that operation that aren't -- quote on quote nonprofit. Some people say he likes the money other people say he would like to get back in and keep the Senate seat in the family I don't know I always thought Vicki was the most likely want I can't believe that you know that they obviously anticipated that people were gonna have. Have great great reservations about letting her. In into the tent so to speak so that's why they put the story into their right in into their house. Org and the Boston Globe but she's not interest that thanks for the call Bob. 187746943. To do and I -- it can't be Patrick Kennedy says some good. Some yup that's what CNB thought he was we have a year earlier caller was mentioning Patrick Kennedy's former Iowa I don't think keys I don't think he's in the running. Thank goodness 1877469432. To build your next with how we cargo ahead bell."

" I ain't gonna happen though I don't think it's about -- all of Joe I think it's about Kara."

" Channel not. You what's -- no other you know I'm I'm listening what are the what does -- ever really done bill."

" Keep it a family. It's good warm man she's old enough. Them the -- I -- bad connection."

" Yes she's had a bout with cancer -- and he says she's a wanna pick up the congressional medal of freedom or whatever it's called. From for -- her father last weekend DC. She got a nice picture on the on the Internet on the front pages being hugged by Barack Obama but I -- I don't know I don't I don't see that want. Thanks for the call bill -- your next with how we cargo ahead deck."

" I don't cabin. I can't say how good is it -- because I was afraid you would have a stroke this information came out. Now I agree -- Specifically I think he didn't call it is very seats vary but I think they've taken a lot worse shape that we know and I think the family you'll you know whoever it is whether it's Vicky are what have a part of the family. They're trying -- baking and out of the leisure while he he's still around. Apple for all we know he's brain dead or some similar thing because that this wasting his -- got it eventually that's gonna happen to unfortunately. But I think it trying to get -- again out of it -- of the legislation have the stones termed out I don't think so but I think it's going -- is that."

" What do they do all right Dick I don't have to be called back into special session though I think I mean is he gonna is he gonna last to do it as well I mean again I and I. I hate I hate to have to have to go down this road are really dope but is he going to last until they come back into formal session."

" Well I suspect -- somebody like one has to deal which is place is still a legislature. Is just by and put this information out because. Maybe -- in such bad shape the need to accelerate -- gets up and think your report finally does badly. And the spy want to be able. Put out the open what's what's going on trying not."

" The cities that to. Because they're getting -- the the most apparent guys right god is -- the committee."

" If I have that he has yet you're right he would be running sort of that that be like eight candidates of the left in the democratic primary and even though his voting record has gone. A little. A little shaky here in the last couple terms she's still a man he could compared to the other she still -- sent. So yes he would be they hid that's where he would be running can be running from the right by Dave I'll -- I think it's more from I think this is more coming out of the city. May be that may be they still do think that you know somehow they're gonna watch you you know get around the quote sure rules in the Senate and -- we gonna meet 51 votes. I don't think they -- they don't have anywhere near sixty votes well I I don't think that it's a cloture thing I really don't implement it I know I could say you want because they don't had a sixty it's. If it but -- can you imagine I mean there will be a backlash if you know if if they somehow Jared pushed this foisted this thing off on the American people with a -- with 88 senator from Massachusetts. Who was appointed because they changed the law for the second time in five years I mean they -- I think he always is dumb down as the American people are I think there would be a backlash. Not just in Massachusetts I'm talking about elsewhere in the country. I Obama right -- thanks for the call 18774694322. So your next with how we cargo ahead so."

" Well how it isn't very interest in what's going on here. I have a question for you if I wanted to. Try to be active proactive on that Jamal what can I make that call and I write a letter is there anything I can do."

" Yeah are you for Massachusetts. I am okay yeah I would die I would write do you know you're a state senator years they wrap. Okay I would I would call them if you know home or are -- or I would write or email them. Yeah and just say just CIA I I've been following what's going on and I certainly hope your not gonna be railroaded into changing this law yet again. I -- I think that's I think that's the best we could go at this point so you guys while they got to hear from they got to hear from people I know it's the dog days of summer. It every a lot of people on vacation but that they and they need to war if find out what their constituents think of this rotten deal."

" You know sometimes when something so obvious what this is so obvious it's good for the exposure it kind of wake people up. They haven't been paying attention independent of the kick in the butt and we need that and maybe we maybe we didn't Serbian mortar. Well working in the town hall and all that kind of thing people are finally using their voices."

" I hope so -- and tell your friends the call and call your reps who are your reps by the way. Out of well Delahunt a congressman I'm talking to you this is this is legislature this the state alleges Clinton. Hedlund okay Hedlund who's a Republican he'll obviously be against this yeah and who the -- rap. You know."

" I can't think up -- about my had a sit down."

" Okay the F find that I find that out and give I give the -- call -- most likely a Democrat thanks. 18774694322. And how we are wrong."

" 18774694322. -- John fund is gonna come back after the top of the the hour -- the BBC crew was delayed by the weather and dolby dolby -- Taping we'll try to get some good sound cuts when we come back roster next with Howie Carr go ahead Russian."

" Howie first of all I'd joke or loyalist up -- not give up that -- god does better than bullet against."

" The I guess it is is it's legal right -- you don't have to worry about paying off the revenue source."

" So exactly yeah. And really you know it's it's really a shame because you know it -- could have went our way into the good night ever statesman. And if that happens it's just that he just a cheap politician."

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