Howie and Rep. Steve King

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" If -- people understand that we didn't have the choice is a country that want an economy is gonna grow in the future. People don't understand it to bring those types of town and it's gonna it's gonna be difficult hard for us to do. And the path to that. Is sure health care reform but that's necessary but not sufficiently to some other things the rebels are on the table as well who I think could put the country needs to do is understand you have to do it takes. Gonna do what's necessary."

" The role of the federal government is not to run the used car business and it's clear you can look at -- track of the post office and now cash for clunkers -- most expensive car on how -- federal government. Went bankrupt in one week. In the used car business and now they wanna run our health care system. I just think this is a great example of the stupidity is coming out of Washington right now."

" Only car but I don't think we're going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately there's gonna be potentially some transition process I can envision a better. Or fifteen years at a one year is out."

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" RW RKO radio network. 18774694322. I love it when Tim Geithner talks about how we have to raise our taxes. Feel about as much credibility tell you about it we. Raising our taxes this Charlie Rangel does. Talking about how what's the moral thing to do to pay your taxes. He's referring to you were me I'd pay him and Tim Geithner and the rest of the beautiful people about it BC of course. We'll talk more about that while. 18774694322. That is the toll free number of the Howie -- show if you like to join us here this afternoon. Every week date this hour of how we car show is brought to you by conservative -- travel right if you like most of the show on the Internet you can always do so go to our website which is. How we car dot com how we cart dot com and click on the live audio streaming. We're giving the poll question in just a moment but tough first we are joined by EI think Iowa congressman's rep Steve King. And he is he's the ranking member on the house immigration subcommittee. And that we've been trying to talk to for a couple days he's been tied up but I'm -- with us here today. And we want to ask him about the some of these aspects of the new health care bill that aren't being talked about much in the mainstream media is now right representative getting."

" Oh and thanks for having me on that seems like -- all the subject matter and it being discussed this some elements a little more worried aren't as. That's when he raised with help federally funded health insurance being provided truly illegals. Under the policy that is Redmond Democrats in congress. Is what's gonna."

" So how. How does this how does this work I mean -- what one illegal aliens did they go to the emergency room as it is right there's a us Supreme Court decision saying no one can be denied health care so they they already get free health care don't they in a way representative."

" doing we don't turn anybody away in this country but it seems this source Pacific where illegals that for example almost stubbornly trauma center in the entire state Arizona is true I'm seventy miles north of the border because everybody's problem there is gone broke providing health care for illegals. I was that the policy we have today."

" And now apparently American people don't have the will to change that."

" And it is now we have the same policy manifesting itself. Only this time it's not enough to have access to emergency rooms if you would would otherwise be deported."

" Let out and they so believed that they shouldn't torture and their own policy. Opera writer by the federal government which is unique."

" So how does that work ripper and how would it work I mean assuming that nothing can be done about that soon its it slides tomorrow. It how how would this is so you're in the country illegally and you still have a right to get a health insurance policy -- have free -- paid for by eight. The citizens every legal way to millions of the United States of America."

" I have a little bit on certain power would function -- have to drop the way to cut some assumptions run out the Congressional Budget Office ran some numbers. And now they had to predict what this was gonna cost is evaluated. The front of the democrats' health care proposals in the proposal of the house and those other population wasn't just that."

" They believe it -- over the next ten years."

" The average illegal population in the country would be fourteen point one million which I believe this twenty or more annoying actually. I."

" Yeah and then out of that they in another -- report they state that as many as eight point five million."

" What did not being sure even if we passed the policy of the Obama care policy. So we just need shorthand version where we get to the map and subtracted a point five million from fourteen point one and came up with five point six million that would be insured. In the aftermath of the Obama care policy and that's that's the Congressional Budget Office number that the numbers that we subtracting you are. It could be as many as five point six million -- and that it could be funded through their employer. I and then of course that's gonna be dependent upon whether we enforce our immigration law whether we provide -- etc. But that's one place it would be -- the employer I don't think there are you ready yet to hand out health insurance card everybody -- walking around in the United States but circles."

" You don't think she I was gonna say I I don't think they're that far away from that. -- why they don't like are more and more into this country."

" This has just been unbelievable world that we live and I and real fact my memory chip this young -- gonna criminal law enforcement families. And then being taught they might need great reverence for the rule of law. And I -- the -- on the House Judiciary Committee and I am constantly confronted by people that just because in this respect the constitution and the rule of law. And I think if there and I don't that they can produce as a witness or -- that the thing that they can generate. Exist -- that should trump the constitution and the rule of law of course they have great sympathy for the analysts say twenty or more million illegals enter in America. Because they want them to -- it'll expand their political power base and if they can't get them to -- and I mean liberals. I'm at least they get counted in the census by acorn and so they -- that the more political power regardless of whether you people were given the power habitable for."

" It's just amazing that you know what taxpayers are just being asked it to pick up the tab here I mean you know reduce the overall. Aspect of the health care bill means you we will pay more money in week meaning everybody now that the cat's out of the bag on the level. Four 44 worst health care."

" You know billion -- here's here's what the book law in the Obama presentation and it turned out to Venus. That any candidate in the economy is in crisis and I don't disagree but I have to fix it but he said they don't care system and people. I don't agree I don't believe that our health care system is broken. I think we have the best health care delivery system in the world and do we have -- situation where we have about forty Porter 47 million."

" Who are not record not insured but are trying to change that. And that you cannot figure out here okay okay got it. I've got to beat anyway historically changed at 44 to 47 million and they try to reduce that number we should subtract from that. I hope there is -- people believe that we don't need the draft and those who would qualify for government programs that are not sign up and that's about half of those that would qualify for Medicaid. Those who make over 75000 dollars a year and and don't bother taking steps to be injured or you're in transition between policies. And then the illegal of those that are legally in this country who are obligated to take care of themselves. You meant you reduced at 47 million number down to ten to twelve million depending on what you -- and states and instead your government number. But that's 4% of the population. And it so or could change should be not a health care. But they help them to provide health insurance for this 4% of the population. They would upset a 100% of the best system in the world. And when you see that medic -- is only signed up four by about half of the people that qualify. I can't think that one person gets down to reduce less than 2%. So or I -- to six million people or providing health care or any way. Why would we -- 100% of the best system in the world the American people understand that it has got an articulated an -- that you take that case."

" Right you saw -- thought you saw the -- poll today that they asked. People how -- they would describe the health care system of the United States 48% said good or excellent and only 19%. Said pork. Let's CIA that is not exactly a meet and date -- overturning the entire apple cart here."

" And that's after fifteen to eighteen months of constant media drubbing on health care system. And side can say something that I think along with us. And that's not the thing that they are what is it is it is costly it's it's -- about fourteen -- have percent of our GDP. Whereas if you look at Western European nineteen -- Canada there around nine and a half percent of their GD GDP culture measure our quality is better results are better. I'm so but it -- more costly let's addressed the medical malpractice for one thing high doctors premiums and the cost of medicine report defensive medicine all those extra tests that are terribly the trial lawyers that are feeding off this system. I would be one thing and there's nothing in the bill that addresses that because the trial lawyers are writing checks to the other side of the."

" Right and they may end up Barack Obama has made it very clear he's not going to do -- things. About the trial lawyers tort reform."

" You know how is that that they can attack me good health insurance. Industry in the United States. And and some aren't other -- black doesn't even land on any of the trial lawyers that are in -- making a living -- of -- that they punitive damages for something that may or may not have been medical mistake that's something that a jury would award."

" I understand I'm really I'm disappointed with the administration and how to characterize this and another thing that a President Obama has says that. -- we needed just her right one more alternative for people -- public option as another alternative for health insurance plans. We have in this country today over thirteen hundred health insurance companies. And among them -- offer as many as a 100000 different varieties with politicians. And so particular companies -- thousand policies. Is the government gonna make any difference I'm making it thirteen 101 and 100001. There -- policies. I suggest that. No not unless they knew they -- all right the qualifiers that regulations. That will require every health insurance policy in the United States stood to meet their new qualifiers. To adapt themselves to look more like a government plant. And that's the only way to govern and compete with the private sector. And Ben at that point that means there will not be thirteen hundred companies derby fewer choices. When President Obama gets done not one more choice they allowed fewer choices for the American people."

" 18774694322. -- they're more calls -- our -- king we just about oh sure okay thinks people are up people very interest in this plan obviously in their interest and in the the illegal alien aspect and just the general. We we only get one side of the issue here from our congressional delegation as a yeah well well I don't know --"

" He -- opportunity parade is speaks to the logical people -- better."

" Yeah thanks and thanks representative king Greg your next with Howie Carr and a representative Steve King from Iowa go ahead Greg."

" Well I guess my first thought of before I ask this question I was gonna ask them -- the congressman speak -- this kind of curious. -- brought documentation. And illegal aliens and it would never -- Obama. -- article about dot com."

" Whereas that is a good question hand out. I have looked at that's been in first sometime I looked at it intently before his inauguration so that the departing January this year. I've seen that need newspaper accounts that show. That it was reported a newspaper intruder on line newspapers. His berth in the end I think it's August 4 of 1961. Reporter got on -- 61 -- want paper. -- I would think would be hard to defraud that I don't understand why he wouldn't come forward that is produced its certificate of live birth. And it and the questions about it once and for all I think there's something embarrassing their that is covering up I just don't want it. That can get back here."

" But you don't think -- you don't think these you don't think she was born in Kenya."

" I don't see evidence that he was I've looked into the April Baden. And remember that apparently alleges nobody would surely was garbled under -- very convincing. So all I looked at a lot of Obama's history. And if you look at the environment he was raised again. Other -- should be no surprise to anyone that he has -- he -- has very very hard to the last the most. Leftist president we've ever elected by -- car and current certainly the most liberal member of the United States senate when his voting record. That comes about because of nurture and he was nurtured into strong activist leftist mainly an entire environment I'm concerned about that. I just I don't know. Why he would not -- that form but I actually today. I'll leave the indications that either the most credible say that he was born in Hawaii."

" Face of thanks to a caller we -- on the move along Bob your next with Howie Carr and representative Steve King Republican of Iowa go ahead Bob."

" thank you around. You know you are -- thing I wanna crop or you you found a couple of go ahead and exchange and I start on it and -- Barney Frank and I never seen a market that. Our congress to act -- in front frank the way he walked in and out of congress cable -- and you heard our oral. Dignified and in the that this really well on a compliment you on that and -- Robert what. I've never seen -- behavior. By anybody and I'm ashamed that he -- congress."

" Well you know this thing's first we cannot Robin album yet I'm pick another team exchange that would have been on the wanna wear out Barney Frank alleged that. He wasn't influenced by is intimate relationship with an executive on Fannie Mae. -- as an executive that he had the intimate relationship where it wasn't a senior executive. That would be a matter congressional record and it just pretty amazing to me you're gonna we're gonna kind of distinction I don't think anybody else whatever recognized -- so and so --"

" That should thanks well there would be mr. herb Moses slipped that Marty was talking about there. Bill you're next with Howie Carr and a representative Steve King from Iowa go ahead bell."

" Yeah Robert -- king had a question -- in our I don't want it taught in our local. Our local courthouse and Arlene. I was there recently to a three months ago we had over sixty individual on the stock. Being sued by Cape Cod hospital for nonpayment. Not one person. Appears in court. You've experienced. A similar situation in York they. And it is not. They're not be a a potential clerk caught -- to eliminate the litigation that goes beyond. You know being so good majority of these folks are not. Citizens of this country based on what I heard what I --"

" Well they'll hang -- eliminating the litigation I'm not sure how we do that. But what here's something that I have seen and I and my local hospitals and I'm sitting in -- of the hour now have told me. I expenses they have been providing healthcare to people are not lawfully -- in the United States to use good. -- technical term."

" And that I've done some business down not notably but along the border and I can tell you that you've done university hospital."

" As an annual cost of about fourteen and a half million to provide health care to those who are unlawfully -- United States who came across the border illegally and have been times that there I see you know when he jammed all."

" And the people that paid their insurance and their taxes had to be life flight from Tucson to Phoenix."

" I want all the I feel it was full of people looking across the border illegally. I got a lot to be gone there."

" And I just don't know how we move public opinion not to be able to make these changes in the middle of Pelosi is now Obama administration."

" That is just we've got a long ways to go on without change the majority in the legislature in order to get there."

" Exact same thing accepting help it cut their license plate they're flying these individuals then in car accident but the Boston. Who are not legal sort of."

" In her life fighting and I can tell you that there's also gave."

" Where I didn't surprise visit down I'm not on the border and have to be Arizona and while I was there."

" They they called there was life one night I did you know him across the border to Mexico. They probably an ambulance with these wounded -- on to the United States that the -- reentry."

" Life whether the helicopter down from -- content to Americans ambulances there that got there before the helicopter with oxygen."

" Stabilize the patient flew him up to Tucson I want to believe the next day and they patched him up at the cost of 30000 -- heading back to Mexico but he was. He was not even the United States illegally either gonna knife fight and -- In Mexico and -- in Iraq border town."

" So -- importing people who can't. It works very -- disturbs me -- somebody Nagano and threw it out. I'm we have something -- some."

" You you -- not a Florida last week they had a guy from Guatemala he was in a coma in the -- keeping him in this hospital in -- extort Florida for for two or three years and it barnacle bill of millions and millions of dollars -- they were trying to they were just trying to get amount I mean he was this one guy a was will it was pushing the whole hospital into the rat. End up finally a federal judge said yes you can ship them back to Guatemala he's an illegal alien -- and he doesn't have the right -- that don't live here in the United States and call -- Furl -- four million dollars a year."

" We are most compassionate people and we just don't have enough compassion for our common sense which is about honest yet this itself out."

" East I know what -- what about the American citizens and what about them people who live in Stewart Florida that you know going to the emergency -- and get hit with -- stiffer bill because because they were taken care of this illegal alien from Guatemala who was in a coma."

" It is just a rebel and then there's a lot of caution and going on and -- in the health care industry that's one of the things wrong with us. I'm Matthew Knight either being addressed there right now by any of the call."

" Nobody talks about that. Nobody talks about this sort of thing representative king I mean you'll -- read the stories about California being on the edge of bankruptcy. And and it's like these are the ones who broke open topic here is the cost of providing services for illegal aliens. "

" NN massive and leave it in any services to lot of cultures or some other things of that the last number -- taught us that surely welcome -- now. Well as fourteen and a half million unemployed in America. And then you add to that about five point eight million that don't that the qualifications anymore but they're looking for jobs so you're twenty point three million you can take charities studied it just -- point five million real numbers are they effective numbers of those who were Americans who needed job. And we have it and number that I say is an excess of twenty million here illegally. However you cut that -- can you can produce jobs for the American people simply by forcing immigrant enforcing immigration law. But in the middle of the worst economy since the Great Depression to not characterize our president's position we don't have the world even enforce immigration laws so instead. How would want to provide them with education and health care and all the benefits so someone living in a socialized state brought up the benefits of the work."

" An anchor CF stop and moment -- hold up. Is into the bargain and pay the taxes and pay the extra bill when he goes to the hospital because."

" That's gotta make up further shortfall that you've just brought out booting situations the Guatemalan import."

" Thanks for the call bill Peter your next with how we car and congressman Peter King. Or should we Peter King how good it's our -- Steve King not Peter King from Long Island Steve King from."

" I know going to know what I -- I grew up there. -- IG mail that letter -- call for Harvard's the -- of lot of factors are able repressed -- My question -- are still. If there rob. In favor of illegal be given America -- they've broken their files what all the constitutional -- Gilbert police bullish. I don't want accurate arm right then do we have a lead the -- that are better tomorrow. Well."

" He DV DS and -- is legal way of getting him out of course Election Day every two years for your house members and security for your senators and that's the easy answer Peter and I don't mean -- just taught me the answer -- because there's there's a strong political network that gets built underneath. While most members of congress. Building strong political network on what fundraising and support system that's there. And you know all how strong that is what the party teamwork I'll just say in NASCAR it's. Welcome and wanted something that's gotta be cracked somehow grand mom means good. Got it here."

" I'm -- it brought -- unfortunately. Someone like this doll is gonna get caught because the only other way I think -- that we vote every 10 -- brought. And one that we are quite real like them at all electric -- a fact there."

" Now off it you know I hear people talk about that Peter but that's not to bed that's really not a are realistic solution voting everybody out. You always say like -- it's like term limits you know they you lose say you don't you never lose a Barney Frank in the term Hamachi user you loser Rudy Giuliani can now. Mean that the best way to do what is at the polling place."

" Our current Arctic BR under sparked -- mass response. Thanks for the call Peter active thank you there."

" But if they involve the people out that you disagree wet and aren't doing their job. Anchorage those that are in their that are doing the job you like to see him doing it if you do that we can get this sort out of enough people are -- straight America."

" Could congressman king your people in Sioux City, Iowa is is angry about this health care situation as as they seem to be in most parts of the country including Massachusetts I would I would say."

" I don't think they are problems Internet on the part of everyone's mind there's a talk at a coffee shop in the workplace and recreational areas as well. And I haven't seen this kind of frustrated anger here about one of the things there's you know made don't have anybody to be angry at that they can see. I'm I just finished given a speech to the downtown Rotary Club and yes there were questions and comments on health care you can tell what they think. But I didn't have any any melt down now public chow down like has happened to us Carnahan our -- mechanical. Arm and number of others across the country work. They they want to convey -- and also what happened I was Specter of Pennsylvania. Those those kind of demonstrations are taking place period to two media out. And that's because people know that I'm opposed to this socialized medicine proposal was coming but. Those who have remembered that is complicit if that's unlikely it is supported our hearing an intense way and I am just."

" Or the -- that in Lincoln Nebraska Democrats US senator Ben Nelson handy just indicated that he's."

" Not let's see how I better not return -- position except operator apparently a large health care that he's Matt -- candidate is -- thousands. And I think part of that is to do all they can't be convinced they're Democrats senator. I two opposing national health care."

" wish you guys could come up with a better term and socialized medicine that's soundscan old fashioned -- mean -- about rationed health care I mean that's that's what it is is that that's an accurate description up."

" Part of it did get -- government run health care and it it won't result in rationing there's no way around that. I don't know I can't seem socialized medicine does sound a little old and had been trying to think -- to characterize it better maybe a little different children. I guess it beyond just a rationing its equality here responded diminish when when you're gonna wanna squeeze profits out of it. And right now aren't Medicare is paying 80% of the cost of delivering the service on average across the country. They wanna squeeze me happy trillion dollar about a Medicare. And then use that in -- but I guidelines for the rest of the services. Those other services are you that you -- they're higher in their costs because they have to compensate for the shortfall in government not paying the bills. I don't there's so many inconsistencies involved in this. I'm I'm also I'm very concerned about what happens to this -- health insurance. -- system that we have been yes it's time he's been too much on administration. -- too much -- litigation. But it was all the insurance companies if we're gonna let the federal government right to Greg regulations and having you health insurance law and right -- regulations. I'm it is going to squeeze them out that's what got more characteristic to it. It and then Juan gets its rationed as long lines that's it's more care it's like it's higher costs for the overall system. There's less efficient your health care providers your doctors your nurses because there'll be less incentive for them and those -- get the education. And won't commit their careers to something that won't be -- not rewarding financially."

" Every every night the Fox News Channel should have a story about some atrocity from the United Kingdom and that wouldn't be hard to find one either a representative king as you well know there in the paper -- papers over there every day. -- Then I don't --"

" And it's a numbers slip through their and I went down in the interest of all year or so ago I had a World War II that -- it stack up collier's magazine from 194849."

" You can't establish there are national health care plan and 48. And -- was featuring Arnold magazines. They -- the long lines outside the clinics."

" Hasn't dockers that would turn up -- number occasions they would -- arts. Add up all the things that we know operations here we're we're already present in the first year of the United Kingdom's socialized medicine plan. And other things for example could hear some hard numbers. In Canada the average -- for eight knee replacement history."

" 140 days. The average -- for quite an -- to 96 days you made it that the Irish -- but I know that some of those people died -- were waiting. And some of those people gave up and decided to spend their life in a wheelchair crutches so we rationing care reduces the quality of life. And now we had a doctor that try to practice -- in Michigan and in Canada that's all as a guest speaker before but what policy committee about three weeks ago. He had examined when I was first patient says he went candidate and to provide services and -- They're young they're young man who has torn up his knee playing sports torn meniscus and an -- CL injured proved crucial ligament. I intend to ram that you need surgery I'll schedule you first thing in the mourners -- you tomorrow morning. And that is doctor and then now he found out that doing so wasn't possible in Canada. They had his schedule all the administrative examiner who could approve of the surgery first. That took six months to get these masks so there's -- get the surgery was operated on almost a year to the day from the time of the injury. And of course there and it didn't work all that time and the rehab as longer because relent -- not you have a preview of that precious precious little braves. For a year before that fixes Canada. Those things matter that's in America and they're not measuring the."

" Cost of -- also human productivity or quality alliance. For the people that are waiting in line for services in those countries and have their national health care plan."

" can we really appreciate your being with us here on -- car show and I'll see you next month in -- DC and it's always a pleasure to have you on and thanks for putting out the other side of the story here and in not blue New England."

" I don't want to I have I have if you can't deduct your listeners I look forward to seeing you at the Phoenix hotel and let's hold their feet to the -- together."

" Sounds good to representative king C a next month or 18774694322. We'll keep going with this we come back and Howie -- kids love baseball sold warrants."