Is the Economy Turning Around?

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" Like to join us they're saying they have some kind of house deal with the blue dog Democrats on on on health care so -- you know. -- it's it's a long way to temporary on this thing and I'm I'm still hopeful that that go. Then they'll get an earful when they go home to their districts about this health care fiasco. That that that they would like to impose on the American people. But that that is the latest that's one reason the stock market is that is down today by the way. The the the that health care stocks are down. About the there are down about their own bullet they're dragging the whole lot of stock market down this afternoon. Stone about whereas it's sixty -- 69 points right now. So -- the biggest this I mean it's it's not a huge loss but it's they were -- say they've had a while so you know this is -- the stock market reacts to walk Barack Obama getting what what might be might be good news. By the way this hour of the how we car show is brought to you by conservative torched travel right conservative tours travel right. We will be doing. The death pool. In the 4 o'clock hour this afternoon. We have a winner as you know while the person who picked to Walter Cronkite has got a it has got to win and what are. Okay and we we also have this is something I wanna get out of -- right away because in the tickets are for this evening. The rat pack is going to be at the sell short music circus and -- has said at 8 o'clock tonight. It and we have 24 packs. Of tickets to give away. And which -- gonna have to do since it's this evening you have to pick a mop at will call window and you won't you will be needing some identification and to what the pick up the tickets. But right now if you were if you are the fourth and fifth callers. Right now at 6179311686179311680. You can get -- you could win the four pack of tickets to receive a rat pack that the the South Shore Music Circus and capacitor and and please don't don't just call on Wednesday if you if you give me if you can really make it you you know goal date try try Ford but otherwise if you can't make it. Let somebody else have a shot to might might enjoy the show with some friends and yes so anyway they'll be the fourth in the fifth callers. 18774694322. Barack was out on the road today as you know. In North Carolina making a pitch for a for health care and how was gonna turn the economy around. Allegedly."

" And that of course he he did say that the recession was winding down and saw that someone Obama introduced that obviously is the question here right. I don't know much more there really is to say about. About. Gates gates. And sergeant Crowley and of the beer fest tomorrow night at the White House -- bright talk about it some tomorrow and tomorrow but there's not a lot of new information today. -- Lucio Whalen who was the the woman who called 911. On where street -- two weeks ago now. At a press conference today. Least I thought it was a press conference it's in it was windy Murphy's press conference or -- lawyer of the she she just kept the yeah happened for about five minutes introducing her. Then they could Lucia Waylon on Richie issued just basically saying I'm not a racist she's targeting -- calls for my. For the people who alleged -- I guess these are the people who celebrate diversity your claim they celebrate diversity and you know they believe in tolerance see except in the case of this woman why did she call live call in this complaint even though she didn't -- for -- on the tapes. She didn't mention the race of anybody she's had 22 guys we're trying to break in they casters who who who was you know achieved what the race was and she said one of the might of meant Hispanic. I don't know it's the Jews talking about the cab driver turns -- the cab driver was not Hispanic you but he -- and he's not black but he's a Moroccan. And he's kind of swore they -- they used to say and a -- So maybe she thought he was Hispanic he was helping -- gates break into his own house but anyway she at a press conference didn't didn't really say much became emotional. Again asked that you know that good now what she had given them some of video. The and MB roll further than that they can use in their stories said that -- to the media leave it leave me alone let me go back might my old life. My pre 911 life. Okay but anyway Brock said. Today that the the economy is turning around the -- Agassi and use that word he says he's sitting in the the yes. The recession is ebbing and that the things were looking a little better. And I I just I don't know why don't I don't get that feeling I don't get that feeling so I'm gonna ask you a few what do you think. There's a there's a good best -- column my guess in investor's business daily today about this. By Maria Coca Marie Marie cocco. Is it recovery if it's confined to Wall Street. It's a pretty good piece in the then there's a similar. Column in the New York Post called an empty boom. By Nicole Joe Linas. And read the cold Salinas looks at a Mora from a local perspective. The the -- city of New York is self dealing with all these unions that want raises and they you know if you're uniformed -- you can still go out under the age of fifteen New York City and just about anybody who works for the city can go -- 55 with full health insurance. And the unions are claiming. That well you know things things are looking not be you know Goldman Sachs is is this may May -- had its biggest quarter ever. Embed the cold Joe Joey and this makes the same points that. In the New York Post that -- Marie cocco makes in the investor's business daily which is that. -- This is basically -- of this -- so called recovery is just about Wall Street and at all funnel by the government printing presses. This is an empty boom this is Nicole Angelina -- another New York Post this is an empty boom it's based on government subsidy not economic reality Goldman Sachs and the rest are benefiting from conditions the -- outlast the two big ones are is being zero interest rates in the implicit backing of the federal government in the wake of last all the bailouts. These conditions -- Wall Street made big speculative bets with borrowed money which was a recipe for the grand financial party of the last decade -- last fall's meltdown. It can't last in it temporarily prevents the financial sector from coming up with a new more sustainable formula. That may mean lower profits. The danger is the Wall Street's last manic party may give city and state politicians the excuse to avoid getting the government's financial house. In order to."

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" This is the investor's business daily. Goldman Sachs fresh from returning the ten million dollar infusion of taxpayer money that helped keep it afloat during last -- credit crisis posted a record -- record breaking three million dollar profit in the second quarter. That's -- that's enough to dedicate nearly half from the firm's revenues to compensation that is to the eye popping salaries and obscene bonuses the work we'd been led to understand. -- one cause of the financial and economic meltdown. Goldman's good fortune is good news for New York limo drivers landscaper bartenders nannies real estate brokers and home improvement contractors some times. Our torrent really does trickled out. So things look up if you're an executive who could boast of achieving those fatter profits or even if your middle class investor worried about your retirement -- Portfolio. But then -- staples. The office supply -- send me an email advertisement just the other day. Boasting that it was offering 25 cents specials on some back to school supplies I got that email as well. Glow pencil sharpener your racers pens pencil cases a quarter is all it takes. As the leading economic indicator I'm going with staples says Marie cocco an investor's business daily. Nothing deflates irrational exuberance like real -- retailers were practically giving away stuff to get people into their stores. This is how things look in the real economy the one and which unemployment is -- nine point 5% the highest in 26 years and is expected to rise this is the economy of pay cuts and freezes -- reduced hours and workers whose employers have stopped contributing to 41 K retirement plans about when the employees stop contributing to 41 K retirement plans to say they're having trouble making -- because they're not getting as many hours that's a little a lot of that going on -- That's why the arithmetic of this recession still looks pretty dismal and why the politics and psychology governor starting to become disconnected from reality and a scary way. Scary because we seemed ready again to declare that everything is hunky dory as Barack did today. Or soon will be because certain elements of a rebound notably those tied to investments are becoming visible that's should really worry -- Because during the past decade -- recovery was declared successful even if it was detach from the larger mission of building an economy based on rising productivity in most crucially rising incomes across a broad swath of society. For years it was a quote unquote jobless recovery."

" called it when the Republicans were in power now that the Democrats were in power it's just recovery. An upturn in overall economic activity that wasn't based on job creation the required heavily on more spending by those who already have jobs. Meanwhile we seem poised for continued income stagnation among most workers even when the economy starts producing jobs it's unclear whether business will hire back the same number of workers."

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" Kennedy can you believe anyone who says our economic nightmare is over so my question is is the recession -- As -- as being promoted by the the democratic administration in Washington and their media lapped Cox. 18774694322. -- your next with how we cargo ahead Doug. -- We'll get you in the second here Doug. Any day any time okay we won't get Doug I guess. 18774. Hole by if we no well I don't know and she would take a break who do we -- may do we have more Tom you're next with how we cargo ahead Tom what's he wouldn't get --"

" Our our -- at least speak my dog and I dig it up our Betty little mason jar in the backyard. We're gonna put it Obama bugs. But it. I would make sure -- Barney is right and 45 cents to Bigelow. Well in the bag tied around my dad known all valley now. That I go to flawless."

" I wish Israel this story -- said you know how wire all these people and money markets the money markets aren't making any money for anybody. But -- know Tom the thing is the money markets are losing any money either are that -- now not just waiting until let magic moment when I turned 59 and a half and can get everything that the -- out of the stock market."

" Probably -- and his battle. All right my biggest problem I was trying to remember -- They think -- get out."

" See you later Tom 18774694322. Won't get fully yen by the move that's my new was investment strategy won't get fooled again. 18774694322. I used to big it was a it was they had there there was a song about the war steel country song I can't afford to have my half again I can't afford to have my half again. When it comes to my radio 401K had not -- not that I got word I'll hold 50% but. I already have a lot of money in in money markets the end as you know short term paper and even bonds. But I'm not I'm -- didn't do this again it's I don't I don't believe -- I just you know I. Double dip is the word from any value I I picked up on my -- Spring to attention when I hear someone on on and on CNBC talk about a double dip recession they just stay these these these same people who work talking down the economy and they were talking now on the economy on TV -- now bush was president. Now they're talking up the economy. And they have about as much credibility talked up this economy is they do when they were clock and around the bush economy Joe your next with Howie -- go ahead joke."

" Always if you focusing envoy said askew for a chorus of happy -- here again. That this is ridiculous. -- that don't know recovery."

" There was a story yesterday -- that in the McClatchy newspapers not exactly the he Republican organization and not just because then they're bankrupt -- by the way are very close to bankruptcy. End the McClatchy organism they will be talked to this guy in South Carolina his -- company has is the biggest. He door hinge manufacturer in the in the country. -- what he said he said I know this is a really bad because I'm not even selling any new door hinges in Vegas he said in the past. Asked who I could always sell. To what casinos there were always building casinos no matter how rotten the economy was now I can -- now I can't get arrested in Vegas when I go out there making sales calls."

" Oh you remember what the unemployment rate was -- side of the quote bush recession but jobless strip the jobless recovery. That's invited it was five point 6% excise that wet we're gonna hit ten before the year's up."

" Right and they're not talking about any improvement until early there the I mean even CEO we've in the lap dogs are saying it's gonna hit 10% and it's like an even -- start getting better and tell our early 2000 tab."

" I gotta tell you something it's -- at this is the beginning of last year beginning a horrible way to became disabled -- not a -- disability a real one. And I just got my idea my -- you disability go straight down by around the first of this year it took me a year. -- because I'm an honest taxpaying citizen not an illegal alien. They're I have to tell you this is the best thing that's happened to me. Disabled. Yeah I you know I I have I can store around I can get around and do things but I can't work -- yeah and that he you know I. I don't know what I do without the check every month."

" well you know you -- to kill work is the is Leo guy on the factory line once said to what senate candidate Ted Kennedy in 1962 -- haven't missed the thing that I don't. No thanks Joe 01877469432218774694322. Gary your next with Howie -- go ahead Gary."

" They always -- a -- okay he regards the economy of course it's horrible due out Scarlett. -- go to -- I if you go into a 12%."

" you -- actually never -- more that the the people who stopped looking for work and they're not exerted her that that was it that was always mentioned whenever they talked about the unemployment rate during the bush years Marty. And he can't even mentioned the people who stopped looking for work or people like Joe that are out on disability and DM glad about it."

" Well it and I talked to a lot of people that'll work part time that far off they were really full time within at a lot of other people work in the east. Small."

" Yeah well as though there's also people Gary who have who were tired to the moment they could do on social security and then there they used as they used to be full time productive people. You don't pay in taxes now now there's still work and but they're not working as much in the working under the table."

" So there's no question I mean unemployment going to be 1213%. But -- regards to you know the economy you know let's. If you look really PS and 500 as -- given all the earnings right now woke. Zero being mirrored expectations but if you look at this field did not meet this bill numbers so the fourth. You're selling goods and the only reason why did beat -- earnings expectation that he analysts came -- with real low numbers or. They've -- so many people that they don't have that overhead."

" And this may be a part of me -- a lot of buying into the market I tell everybody no way I mean."

" Look at interest rates sterilized their role of course debate's gonna make money eventually gonna have to raise interest rates when its -- it would be interest rates Goliath the market's gonna go down. Look at the the real estate one -- 8000 dollar rebate expires at the end here real -- for the -- and we haven't even."

" great -- and that there's a great column in the New York Post today -- saying -- you know there there -- whistling through the graveyard with these housing figures going up because a lot of these houses that are enough for closure that the banks have taken over -- takes 345. Even six months to wind their way through them the -- the legal machinations. In all these houses that have been foreclosed upon are gonna go back on the market. Probably sometime late this year in the gonna depressed the hell out of the out of their houses that there are being sold by people aren't bankrupt."

" And how weak the commercial real estate market is in a totally tanked because they can't get -- since its."

" I mean it's going to be a lot lot blue. -- now we have Obama looked all he wants to do is -- cannot think probably want to do is you know give it goodies free health -- I mean you know always the market's gonna do well."

" Different factors rallied."

" I I don't I know Gary Jerry I would think about sell off more of this little stock that I got laughs just to get imported and -- reported in these money market funds I don't. I don't care if these if these financial columnist wanna call me stupid for -- money in a financial -- I don't care not losing any money you don't -- I don't I'm tread water until likened fleet for they else."

" And I just look at the market goes higher each day irritated you know it's walked only a little bit but still it's -- overnight I don't -- I didn't say you know we get a wake up one more did they get that's -- piece of real true financial news so do what you see the market drop a thousand voids within. We were at 6600 won't won't probably be captain how to get the ghosts. Spears -- is horrible just horrible."

" talk to somebody today in a at a store -- mega millions sales call. The end it admitted that they were there were Cindy you know I'm gonna look at no we're looking to move the store on to Newbury Street I mean Newbury Street is like beat cream mere. A retail. Shopping location in Boston that's the destination Newbury Street is it you know every street. Is says is pock marked with these for these places that have gone out of business in -- and they you know -- the other person I was talkin' to said. Geez I can get I can get -- such a great deal one Newbury Street right now that it's this is what that mean commercial real estate it's it's tanked. Thanks for the call Gary -- I'm sorry I don't mean to be depressing everybody but it's either this or talk about health care for the first hour you know I mean hey it's eight."

" I gonna end healthcare I don't I don't wanna I don't wanna spoke everybody on health care to that I don't think that I had. I have this I may be among cock eyed optimist here I don't see the glass is half full. I can't believe. That. -- even the stupidest congress says. That they know at this this ideologues got Barack Obama and his say idiotic administration destroy the best healthcare system in the world. Mean maybe they'll -- tinker around the edges and give my fig -- so we can declare victory and I withdraw from the battlefield like. George Aiken suggest that in Vietnam so many years ago but I think she can't imagine that he's gonna get what he wants. 187746943220. David you're next with Howie -- go ahead David."

" Ballot the only EI industries are doing well a Massachusetts direct general middle second to street general aggregate that your road paving company. The parent not every highway any dramatic -- That would paired up less than five years ago that are out spent enough money to rebuild our road be honest here as bill well the other thing -- all the economy. Is that the middle of the middle I. The savings rate went like 1% up till like five or 6% people are holding out of that money. -- that there are still employed they know five or six other people that don't have jobs. They're just not spending my -- is still and that's what that's the biggest private economy. It does notebook they said. Bruce bring peace some of those jobs ain't comin' back a Allegheny go to work that a disability with that -- hope you feel better take care."

" Thanks -- 187746943221877469432. To somehow point guard. -- Stephen though Lewis berg PH says Obama declared the recession is over -- the news media hammer this point for the next three and a half years as they did when President Bush declared mission accomplished in Iraq. Of course not."

" 187746943. 22. Mike in Redding says Howie I was laid off three weeks ago on begin my exposure to the filing for the unemployment merry -- round after an initial sign up but -- burned. I was told either call -- by phone or online the phone system does not work in his GM -- they now the online system is crashing today in fact. Each week has resulted in another trip to Woburn the two reps to deal with this or overwhelmed all day. I do thank Tracy for assistance issue is a -- the system is in chaos and our gust leaders are going."

" Thing about it what do you mean they're doing nothing about it come alive Mike. -- about it. They're raising the taxes 25%. The sales tax is going up on Saturday 25%. This for the first time in the history of the commonwealth there's going to be a sales tax on excise tax on boasts. You know what they're -- this afternoon at the state announced they're passing and eighty million dollar supplemental budget. Including a million bucks for a renovations at the Statehouse -- spending another eighty million bucks. We hear about terrible in this war revenues are down oh it's horrible. Now they they gonna spend another eighty million bucks that I. Eighty million bucks. This is the Massachusetts House of Representatives from by the way that guy is right to about the money that's being spent on these amid talk about make work projects. Today I was driving in the town. End I was I was running along I was on one of these roads and all salute that's parallel to the turnpike you -- would be who with the that has the the curly Q."

" A brick wall into the -- brick wall down one lanes on the road was blocked off you know why. They won't washing the brick wall. I -- reason you're not -- law Skype but really you know why do you why do. Because you don't have to why should the -- can you don't know why did you know every ten years or so but I mean and -- plus this nicer and plus headache. Aren't -- is that making Johnston we just put money is somebody's pocket to feed their kids because of that it but it's it's a make work jobs CNB all it does is slow people down like me who have real jobs -- real life is going to get that wall have been -- did not block traffic you would have had no -- I -- I would've -- what do you out of your."

" Check I would had plenty of problems with -- because I don't think the that was stimulus money that was played paying to wash that stupid brick wall that was a that was my eight quarters. Then might do my greasy and one dollar bills that I have to hand over to back. -- in the toll booths today in now all you know why should work. Not that I'm angry or anything understand not a better kind of guy I know I I wish I I'm sure CNB because I looked at the trucks and they were turnpike trucks. In the turnpike does not get any stimulus money twit because they had a -- there I don't know modern continental -- no idea I've I. It's absurd. I was once I sit -- can you believe they are washing borax. On an interstate highway this is how they're spending our money. Michelle your next with how we cargo ahead Michelle."

" I high calorie diet of Michelle and I wanna. You how the economy is affecting me -- at outside buckle up they're back out here because it worked. In. Pharmaceutical industry has outburst that I have for the last eighteen years. And you know even though we don't have universal healthcare -- say how we do have ever have a -- suggested that it makes it about how so. Place to try to do is visit to your health care yelled. And now companies -- people left and right you know especially in Massachusetts. And downside is just an anticipation. -- what's happening and actually possession every day or are already making decisions that favor of lower quality alternative. Just just because they're being threatened. And they think that you know I got quoted going out the window. At our economy being a fact that I anticipate. Being laid off you know -- How the army unemployment quiet well and I've worked in the industry for eighteen years I've always been at the top of my."

" So what does it make you think Michelle when you your Barack Obama talking about. What we're gonna save money because supposed to blue pill costs a -- can that we can buy a red pill does the same thing for fifty cents. So well by the red pills now in the savings at fifty cents per pill won't pay for everything."

" Well you know how -- there are times where -- did you know today -- actually do open up the healthcare access to people otherwise afford it however. They're still at all for equality and I think that I'm Americans you know especially knowing that respect what we think we got these big hospital we get the best health care. I'll bite Obama winning now lot of facts I think Americans must be -- that he thinks we are. And that is that you know you do get what you pay for and we cannot afford right out to ensure our elderly. You know Medicare is not funded but word and act somewhere depending on who's figure you believe. Between you know 10000047. Million -- some power got to save money. And that is just so I. Tells that's right and actually got a lot of different that the thing that politico lavish health and anyone tell you definitely is that he's not trying to trick is back. I'm here to -- a little bit about your expectations -- that but not. However are -- it turns out there should now that a pharmacist can tell you. That the blue pill on the red -- the same. If they have what they call an AB rating. And Melanie B rating has come Massachusetts -- what -- you could that mortar war. 30% collapse of the active ingredient. And so we did you know your conduct got you think you're getting the same thing you always got. But you could be getting 30% more -- 30% less than you'll never now the good quality control standards -- an -- really well."

" Michelle what do you do when your laid off."

" God -- I have no idea I mean every other industry ever considered about the decimated so. I'm I don't know why I just pray that I can reinvent myself but my next forty years."

" Good luck Michelle thanks for the Carl. John you're next with Howie -- go ahead John."

" Our -- tired and -- the best thing I ever did in my life I'm trying to got a little tight -- every business I'm involved with our radio and auto -- everyone is writing Bob I can't get -- psyche is that a spotlight. And jobs this Irish people goes there's that promotion every ER IC -- staples stockholder. Your spin way to work for the company they do that every year but other than anything do."

" I guess I -- I guess me in the myself and the -- person who wrote the column for IBD I guess we're we were on them we're on the mailing list for the first time --"

" Well I can tell you that I can't be Eminem and the good work at staples for fifteen years they had this to help ease and -- that because it's cool I. It still might not be good that they use be back -- I just got it didn't check from a -- up to date quite hear complaints too much but they do this every year are Yelp Wallach and without a neck and upper."

" Thanks for the call John ledger enjoy your retirement Jenny here next with how we cargo ahead Jenny."

" Stay I don't even know where to start there's just so many candidates have talked about I haven't had a job for warriors. Can't find a lot."

" Four years."

" You know my has been to -- let me out of the stock market we've only been in the money market and our borrowing K thank god it's. I plan on selling my -- my profit taking a life or one paper -- someplace where there's no income tax and those six point. Whatever sales tax song on the bottle lying in my case that fear."

" Yes your your ten dollar bottle of wine today won't cost you. Ten dollars and 62 point five cents on Saturday."

" Yeah and I just don't even know where to start with health care. I mean it's just I don't think our system is broken and it might have a little fracture. We need to figure out how to run the Medicare system with much less -- before we start trying to run any other kind of --"

" And now. I know he just he won't listen he doesn't care because it's I don't know if it's like don't affect him in its lack -- affect any of these congressman --"

" Now you know let me let hardware will be opt out. Right that if they give -- careful -- I know I know yeah exactly but I don't think it's not a -- more -- they're planning on spending."

" Now now won't. No boy -- they'll realize they'll really good jobs at good wages and I love that these the people yesterday health care can't wait. All of that sign that you're reducing that sign in the newspaper and in Pennsylvania. And I did it but mentioning yesterday said yeah the health care may not be able away but you're you better plan on waiting if we get this new health care system that they're pushing down our throats. Thanks for the call Jenny. Brochure -- next with Howie Carr go ahead Bruce."

" Hey Howard. They have well thought among small bit of -- and lay out pizza franchise World Cup -- world. Calm down here what's offshore and I'd say that things aren't good. It's nom -- treading water just like anybody else you know and I IC the spy reports against our competitors they're just that is as what's happened everybody else. And I say it. Well now that time comes that I need an employer put open now aren't signed for about a day and I go through about 65 application really. In this is for faster for you don't deliver speech. --"

" The older how old some -- and you give you get people who live by a you know had had good jobs in the past with the benefits and retirement plan Federer."

" Oh probably one of my best workers used to be some sort of electricians something -- make it in the eighties then. Pretty much -- delivering pizza now -- and gonna class so we can learn something middle."

" The -- amazing you get towards something new when your electricians."

" Well yeah that's civilian and you know it's no one -- time -- yeah exactly and I've I've got -- a regular customers one was a plumber saying hey they used to have you know forty people in apprentices and everything else -- off in a couple god. And and that's what we say you know on the you know in working blue collar neighborhood that's what we say that's just. Not getting it any better than when I hear about you know all the wonderful health care that pretty soon I'm sure I'm going to be having to pay for. You know and I look at it this way our Bill Clinton try to track you try to do the same -- said they charge more for -- well that's not a genius idea light and I think."

" We'll tell what's the difference in the what people ordering."

" Well really what's going on I'm seeing a lot more. Larger orders because we do give discounts on me you know on the second orders are -- it is an itch -- I actually a lot of more people getting extra large -- It seems to be more family gatherings at one dollar and setup you know that's typical one of the apartment complex you're going to homes -- Already ordered Airways waiting for the the data go and sit around and and that's the tree and duplicate based people used to go to Friday's are now going to friendly people used to go to friendlies are now coming for the seats -- beat people would -- to get -- so on a weekly basis from people like me. And I'm getting me -- posting a variety straight out of -- freezer. Thoughts come -- pyramid achieved falling into the -- right."

" Right everybody straightened out."

" Right exactly so. You know that's that's the way there isn't quite delicate -- I'm I'm I'm lucky I'm I'm pretty much -- of last year but then again last year was a big drop below the previous here. And I kind of knew that something strongly with the economy -- good you know year before any one of the geniuses and not DC figure out."

" Re -- Barney Frank for instance. Certain congressional. I want gets started on okay thanks for the call Bruce at 18774694322. On -- Joints on -- and -- fun."

" 187746943220. Here's one from the trees yeah remote sign the trees and to a complaint department -- and long term established recognized facts are facts included death -- Because it's the death pulled Patrice it's not the facts doubtful. Why -- complaining jay got into it last time. Just keep working at a Patricio get then I got to you by got delist. Probable and remember he always tries to get and these are complaining. He -- provides the the lead the wild card the quick peck brochure next with how we dog Bruce okay go ahead Josh you're next with Howie -- go ahead Josh."

" Yeah how we welcome back -- you started you're a Republican millionaire health care plan workout for you."

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" No problem for Republican millionaires. Well there's no there's no problem for real legal aliens either Josh is no I daresay there's no problems Ramon battle like you -- Vermont."

" I -- when it comes to the economy you're not they're not on Wall Street and we seem to be doing okay."

" Wall Street ya there there are a lot of people do and OK. Josh but it's in the economy is doing a very badly. You -- a we have a trust fund I'm working two jobs and somehow -- dark."

" If you've ever and."