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" Now we get to go to governor Sununu governor. Good afternoon thank you for joining us."

" How are you plug 200 rarely help it do it while I am thank you. And literally you know what -- there."

" I thought it was a marathon earlier on the program. They did get a chance to talk with him and he is publishing very well they -- surgery is successful. And he's doing well again I spoke to mission they went -- first to pay my respects and also to invite him to be a guest on his own program south. He is coming along and be back I guess a week from Monday. Now now in terms of Republican and democratic politics first of all your state when you're governor. There was a Republican stronghold now I think everything's controlled by the Democrats what's happened."

" Well late date came in in 2000. Good effects and and 2008. And really did extremely well the ballot box so. We've gone back and try to figure out what -- so to speak and we found out that they had. The Democratic Party was quite find it raised a ton of money nationally. Targeted small New Hampshire where where. You're gonna have a Big Bang for your advertising dollar. And really surprised the Republican friends and swept the -- this -- that the governor's race. He has -- last so. They have control they and they have a exercise that control and then passed a couple of budget. Better absolute disgrace as they haven't demonstrated lie. When you get a bunch of Liberal Democrats spent. They can't resist spending they spent. And at a budget it would have been in a half percent increase in the last cycle and this time around it's close to 10% increase. But all the other states around the country are cutting back."

" Does that give an opening for Republicans in 2010."

" Well I think 2000 and going to be good Republican -- cross country. But we'll be an especially good Republican here in New Hampshire the public's beginning to understand that but even -- Democrats. That run in New Hampshire -- like Republicans. They really ought Republican. Base and like liberal Democrat. And they have absolutely no responsibility they added 38 increases or your taxes in this last budget. 38 Linda Norman in our state has been in 0456. Taxes yet adjusted. Each --"

" Governor let me take you back to the time you were a -- central figure in the Bush Administration. You're the chief of staff. At that time is our call the first President Bush did not have many saw as I am not sure the numbers 3435. Try to keep track of them. That the current president -- What sure our reaction to the way -- Obama White House is being run and in particular this is these this expansion --"

" Well I think they always are we had was actually eight congressionally. Mandated. They had just passed a law that said that we had the name in the White House reporting directly to the president. Somebody Mitterrand all the drug program. We had to a point by law. What -- the drug czar Bill Bennett. And it was a creation of congress not a creation of the president. I think President Obama made it terrible mistake. Because he's -- I have constant conflict. Between his cabinet secretary. And their daughter or whatever or whatever -- bizarre is -- Borough. And he's going to find out. That it doesn't work well that way -- desires as our and that's the violation of of confirmation requirement so there. Number one person that health and human services to be confirmed by congress voted no more number one person running the Department of Education. To be confirmed by congress but it irritated is democratically controlled congress. With this bizarre items that he's created and secondly it is impossible to manage that kind of a structure inside the -- And and he I think it's just that a great example of how naive. And really I'm prepared this president was going into the White House. "

" I when you're there how many people had access to the Oval Office I asked that because I assumed that the cabinet officers have it is the chief of staff has it all these are most how."

" Well that's that's really not know works. Usually the chief of staff and our National Security Adviser. Whether it should have unlimited access. And then that they national security. Agencies yeah appointments Kruger National Security Adviser to see the president. -- almost it's virtually all was granted but at least. Really gatekeeper on that side as the National Security Adviser on the gatekeeper out of all the others that domestic program and so waters is the chief of staff tell you have a exception and and in the bush white White House. Side James Baker Jimmy baker the secretary of state who is an old. That the president and work whether McGreevey administration. Heads -- virtually open access for the light out but he never exercised its. That much. So so really and truly. If if people think that desires are going to have open access to the president. -- he really has a circus that he's running."

" We're talking with -- you know former governor of New Hampshire former chief of staff to the president of the United States George Bush first George Bush. And currently chairman of the Republican Party in New Hampshire. Our governor. When you she what's going on here in terms of the that the problems that the Obama administration. Is undertaking and the disagreement. But the American people have with the policies. And yet. Obama's numbers Wally have slipped to remain so rather favorable. What do you make of that would what do you think the -- the -- being communicated to -- politicians in Washington when they see this disparity."

" Well I think most presidents get close to a one year free ride. It's not put in that context but basically it's true. The public is it is very willing good to let the president define your policy. I think President Obama has gotten away a lot. What blaming everything on his predecessor I think that excuse is beginning to whip then. I think I think you know everything he does -- find an excuse for doing. If I finish -- fresh spending unconscionable. Amount of money. On the budget and on the surplus -- stimulus package. Byte by referring back silly for the bush TARP package but bush carte package. I have to remind people what a package of loans at preferred stock and at least since -- What come back to the government that would basically lending money. -- situation. That the government at least build structures and they are to be paid back ought to have some of that paint back. Has started it doesn't mean they'll get it all back. -- That's philosophically wasn't even expanding it would blending. He uses that lending. As an excuse for spending that's a little bit here thought it. And now he is spending. Under the guise of a crisis to adopt programs but even -- too liberal congress if it didn't the label of a crisis but based on the bill. Would never have that. So that this president is I think being a little bit. -- honest with the American public. It in what is doing in referring to past president. Precedent. That worked past precedence. And -- and -- using. The mask of a crisis. Could pass legislation that neither the public. Frankly does as liberal congress block. And -- I don't think that's a very honest later --"

" We're talking with governor junction who knew the former governor of New Hampshire. And former chief of staff to the president. Joe Leonard and -- the justice. Who is -- in the court is from New Hampshire. And are curious fellow that I was reading about him in the context of the Sotomayor are nomination. Here's a man -- is a man as I understand it who does not do email does not have a cellphone. Does not have a television set. Who lives in kind of a small house so often in blue boon docks somewhere. But might gash is that you had some influence. In the nomination his nomination to the Supreme Court. Is that true."

" Well you know David -- had been headed by President Reagan and and this story in the data that we always but he came pretty close. That being President Reagan last nominee Circuit Court. -- and yes what I got better and better and we look very vivid were -- at -- certainly. There's always a bit of -- it was -- looking at things. David -- very conservative attorney general had -- answer. I had appointed interim and I have church State Supreme Court that is his decision prayer worked extremely. Conservative decision."

" Move your head you're headed toward when I was gonna ask you which -- sharing the desk. Which is disappointment TO and to the president President Bush."

" Well you know Boyden gray is an extremely conservative guy leave Lieberman who are. In the real case studies on what occurred Souter put together as a as a State Supreme Court church. It's extremely conservative everybody in the White House saw a judge -- extremely conservative record. Who interviewed conservatively. And without going into the internal politics of who supported -- President Bush appointed him thinking you're hitting -- conservative judge. David. David. -- work."

" Words a conservative supreme court judge for about eight or nine months the first the first session. And when he came back for the second session after the summer. He came back with very different -- and yeah a lot of a lot of us were disappointed. I have no idea."

" Did the president did did the president ever -- you informally in shape John what happened with no David Souter a follower juror on this."

" Not all. That. President Bush president George Herbert Walker Bush the first President Bush is this true nice demand ever do anything like that -- if if he felt. But I assured me he's seen some of the decisions that but I'm not. Consistently with well a lot of the things that he expected out of David Souter -- just paradise -- man. To express that kind of servant and disk disappointment and displeasure who --"

" When David Souter leaves the court. Will you have a chance that you do you intend to sit down and talk with a man -- morneau and."

" Now. -- don't you wanna know. -- and somebody described it as somebody spiked his water or something this is could have profound and implication and shut the."

" I take up I let it happen it could all kinds of -- I'd tell a story. Which would seriously it's a true story about. What I had to -- three judges simultaneously to the New Hampshire courts. And we had a reception for them and that magnificent room outside of the governor's office. They had all their friends and family and former law partners are separate there. And I'm giving a speech on what it takes to being a judge in New Hampshire and you're giving all the platitudes of good character and intelligence thought and I looked over at all -- got my height or let. And I -- make big joke bit in New Hampshire of course you can't be any color that the governor. And everybody laughs. I go back to my office afterward. But -- and it's it's it's the better scored it so visually but I'll try and explain it on the radio this step comes in and says. Did you see what happens when you said betting bill it sure you can't be any taller than the governor. To be a church I sit well you know at what the governor tells a joke of people out there and they had no. Every lawyer in the -- punch them so how. Much. And the way they -- the end and Leo. Allegorical. Reality. But what happens. I can't value of finger governors across the entire country do and president do. The biggest disappointment pay off. -- judges often do not try it out the way they thought they would and I thank I'd say that it is basically. Because all the like people who want to be a judge. Let the light as if they aren't. -- being orange barrels figures that played so life but that's disparity at the appointment. When they're there they're real self comes out."

" Because it is radio governor have to ask you how tall are you. I did okay and -- I assume that there really are some judges in New Hampshire that are taller than five -- I Tehran. Now does that mean then that we can expect. From Sonia Sotomayor -- but despite what we're here in the hearings that when she gets there after perhaps a little break in period she's going to be a conservative. Jurist that we will look back. And I thought I'd almost say how could this happen and we will all be applauding."

" I don't think we should expect. But we get at least harbor a slight hope that on some issues. Shame based surprise for the constructive side you know without the -- pro life. You know this is avoided discussing that issue completely. And and -- say hey -- Hispanic Catholic school and and there are great percentage of the Hispanic community is pro life. So it makes -- so that. So extreme thanks and it's staying. Oh -- who have big underlying debate. About the price President Obama and be slightly differently. Deciding slightly differently than he expected it to."

" Governor I know your time is limited -- time for couple calls and Ventura -- no entourage of those who want talked to governor -- about I guess anything great none of them I don't know you over the years Europe opened -- commerce. So for those who would like to join in the conversation and asked the governor question normally comment. 8774694322. And we have somebody already there you -- okay William here are next on the program with governor Sununu. Now leave -- no not -- oh yes hello glad."

" Yeah. I don't know what to do audio. -- Well thank you I value your opinion and I make my decision I'm not vote miniature. -- and you -- and Al Kelly hey it. Well I'd -- you know what in my there is -- another party appeared that I and make sure we have good candidate driving and I am thrilled. At equality of all the candidates. The water run Kelly they is. Was -- pretty general I'm critical she's willing to perhaps consider a run in the states the -- US senate seat in the state of no extra. And but I also have a fearing there's going to be a lot of other good candidates in the race the so we're gonna have an abundance. -- really good candidate."

" Actually caught your -- for sure she'll be able calling you know mother -- get those Freddy the Illinois know about surprise is that conservative. Presidential president's appointing conservative justices have been disappointed I mean Souter was as surprised. I think Earl Warren. President who was supported by a by Eisenhower wasn't surprised. Had their -- the other way where. No other a justice was appointed that you and the expectation was it was gonna be liberal and he turned out to be very conservative."

" Well I think we're there white tended towards a more conservative. Philosophy then then Jack Kennedy expect citizens to beat when he appointed. I actually think -- the business oriented issues. Breyer has actually been a pleasant. Surprise I'm told by lawyers who care about those issues. So. But I'm not lawyer not me eight years Supreme Court scholars so what another good source. If you love the long historical better than."

" But that's just part of your charm John yeah. 8774694322. -- next on the program good afternoon."

" Good after no governor product its Roxio birdie at night because Joe what happened that -- give my take look. You know. Bush but absolutely no credit. But spending all -- on aids in Africa than any president he got no credit are floating the idea Arab amnesty for illegal aliens he got no credit for anything. My point is this. I think Republicans really need to wake up and understand that. Trying to be white liberals what Democrats will never get them anywhere and what I'd seen over the last. What year it is exactly what I'm looking forward I want you are yet to that this. Colonial bank other -- Sarah Palin because quite frankly as a conservative I don't think. She's at about it become the president quote you'll see it's willing to take a stand. Rally the base and then try to pull in the middle of this country rather then trying to be Democrat -- And and hope that people will light up."

" I'll work jewels each year to all while all the good question. Let me let let me say this I'm chairman of the new Hampshire Republican Party the last thing little world. The Republican Party losses for -- electric chairman out of deciding who's gonna get the nomination. And his well. Black. But I think I think. And company candidate who -- in the last primary. For president actually -- very good conservative. I think this a couple of good leadership people are treated I've been very impressed with John Boehner. I didn't note John Boehner very well by the but I think he is emerging from this battle in Washington they're trying to keep. Big spending."

" As a big spending Democrats from running away -- everything I've actually been impressed with both. The way he says things and what he says. And and I never had put John in the category elevate. They -- classic conservative but I'm I'm beginning fit to move them over into that area I think on the Senate side we still have some extremely. Strong conservative I think John -- this strong conservative. I certainly think that. -- couple of the -- editors that have been there for awhile it stood up -- out of Oklahoma. If it's clearly -- solid conservative now I don't know if they had any presidential ambitions but I really would like them. This speak out aggressively on these issues as we go through this stuff eighteen months in front of us. With this particular congress trying to deal with the big spending radical liberal agenda that the president. And -- the end and read a -- full."

" Governor one last question we've talked about the first George -- true for a room you were the chief of staff -- you must know the sons -- the second George W. Bush. That's why I've never met him I I meant I meant to fall they're not the sun. -- the rap on him is that he just was not bright then that that was a lot of the reason why people. Not only disparage his policies but disparage him personally do you know him and if show. What is your take time he was she'd been busy bride is."

" His own party whom. I -- know where I know fundamentally these are solid conservative. I know that he is much much better than the liberal media portrays him in terms of his capacity. I frankly think -- but he thought he put together a triple a cabinet. On the basis for the resonate he brought in when he brought immense and I think what at that -- people were giving Armstrong credit. We're putting a great cabinet together and I think frankly it was not served well by either his cabinet or its staff. And and I think that's his -- with such. That he really was counting on them. To provide better -- than they did a little problem that you can probably had it I don't think his style. Inaudible the rallying the country together and I think style and substance -- both Shrek was -- for being a good leader."

" Is she brighter than he sounded."

" Good George Bush is much brighter than -- that people have given them credit for."

" Governor I wanna thank you for being released this afternoon it's a pleasure. Mom I wish you good fortune because they know why you hope that they're Republican fortunes do better and in 2010. -- bar love the opportunity for our paths -- cross again."

" Yeah it does stay straight here a lot of the interest still even with the Democrats note sales tax no income that."

" Yeah -- and then there's the free people's republic of Massachusetts sometimes makes that invited thanks again for this not about. John -- governor former governor of New Hampshire. Currently chairman of the Republican Party in New Hampshire got him credit -- he's gonna take action to rejuvenate that and former chief of staff to the president of the United States. George HW bush the first George Bush this is nothing else in your in tune with how we -- program."