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CIA-Cheney
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CIA-Cheney

Published:Tue, 14 Jul 2009
Description:Todd and Avi talk about Cheney and the CIA's secret program...
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" 66860. Years. Broadcasting from a new -- world headquarters building at Federer in the store room."

" Good morning it is Tuesday morning it is Thomas -- with Tom on the -- I think you're on vacation anyway. And I -- Nelson here filling in all excited about. Do you not go to bed you stay up late -- I usually -- bring your honor went to -- you didn't see you Donald sleep I -- get mostly congratulations. May not show but not doesn't throw an audio. Like the Castro in its rise to the radio yes. But nice to have you here in Iowa thank you -- to be here and see you back to the animal theme. That drags you in knew exactly if well Patrick has the rate of no more cats and I won't be here I don't know if you classic kill cats too I think -- body can get away with killing zoo animals because of people don't have the mismatches thought the -- to."

" Arizona was. I don't totally mind him doing by you know and figures. I think it's it's wrong when you say Kelly stop murdering them at night aren't going down hammer. Isolation or who do it to The Herald addition enjoy that though that have a banner no animals will be killed yesterday's deadline. Shows how seriously should be Steve's site and what they should be state funded anyway."

" Now that's a good point I actually I don't think the governor was off base cutting their budget and and I wish that you know those vis this senate president and the speaker of the house both. Pandered on this and said we will restore. We will restore the budgets and we will save the animals from the evil governor. It after this program is over -- a call from the Patrick administration offering your job as you drive. Save him here and met the -- which you in charge of euthanasia. In their one semi over there is serious and well no they hear you defending his so I need a president protecting you and the utes. I'm gonna. The anyway we're not talking about that this arbiter is interest and so nevermind that that if -- by the governor -- killing animals as soon and you wanna help of because there's this coaching I think it's a great idea. There's a huge scam story out there which everybody has heard about because it has been headline. NBC nightly news last night it was the second story only because Sonia Sotomayor was so big. Second story they talked about this amazing ZI intentionally. Was sent when you say Sonia Sotomayor was that -- A the fact that. That a lead into the delta started stop that stop -- stop. The there is no story here. Except for peripheral storage for example I'm excited. To hear that the CIA was developing a plan. To kill terrorists I would have thought this would be kind of job one back in 2001. Or maybe even before back in the Clinton Years. This was a planned. To send people out into the world like on TV and movies to kill terrorists like with pistols not doing it from with drones. If I -- on the ground is on the on the ground yeah like -- find them surreptitiously. Agent 99. Rides sponsors up to them out of bar. Silence are on the -- bang your dead. This should not be controversial nor should we have to start a program like this. I trust my government to be out there killing bad guys on a regular basis don't you."

" Well first of all it it's interesting I don't think anyone was questioning whether the program was a bad program. The people in congress who have nothing better to do it themselves other than to be concerned that they're not giving appropriate homage. We're complaining that they hadn't been told about it. So on the one hand we have the argue the question about how come congress was informed. There's a real question and and the subtext of that is. Did congress have to be informed because it was just. He proposal was -- ninety it was talked about it never gonna implement it. The second part is how come it didn't get implement it I mean as you point out maybe not a bad idea to kill some of these guys actually I think the CIA -- do. Is just come up with a -- invented video. Showing -- bin Laden. Eating -- Or making it with the show or a prostitute. Additionally O'Donnell of them -- circulate that video in his own people killed. Because the religious fanatic will look at the video and say this guy is a traitor. And that killed."

" That would work I think and cost that would work in it would be efficient -- and probably has -- in the bottom congress that. Anyway the on the this is what that's solution with the controversy is all amount to little controversy about is about briefing in -- I mean to me this is just a cover for Nancy Pelosi trying to protect turn make it seem like she was telling the truth. When she said that CCA lies were all the time this story was Fed by Leon and and a big leftist. Activists you know worked in the Clinton administration. Covered up try to cover up for him and his. His shenanigans -- Monica Lewinsky. By saying it was only lying about sex is if the lying about sex to formalize okay. So long as it's sexier lying about. What are the other things are allowed to lie about you know and on the on the liberal on the other hand who hasn't lied about sex at some point or rather in a court of law. We recorded a lot of -- had a chance -- that's true it doesn't matter what you lie about if you deceive the court you could be lying about what -- somebody's hair was and that could change the whole outcome of a criminal case if."

" Indeed this is an attempt to deflect attention away from from publishing it's gonna backfire. Because the Pelosi story about the CIA was climbing down it was it was all work. Yeah and now I mean talked about and now it's all been rejuvenated precisely because of what you just said and now everybody is linking it to."

" That's true but it to provides cover for her in that the media has picked up this story has reported it as if the Bush Administration did something wrong. It revives this whole focus on Cheney is the real president you know that whole story line all these phony story lines that the liberal media. I think successfully pushed into the belief system of the American culture are are being read June."

" And mated with this story if you're Pelosi person this is dangerous because of it rises to the level where somebody shows we have to have an investigation the investigation will go over into this other area were polishing don't know -- We're now -- the world you start once you start going down like the other part that I find -- interest is this was route revealed by -- what was it June 23 or 24 just few weeks ago and already it was leaked yes now. I'm which shows which can trust the congress if people -- gonna make the argument that the law is the law. Congress has to be informed we have to enforce the law that's investigate the Bush Administration people and how about somebody saying the law also says. The congress is not supposed to leak classified information let's have an investigation. Find who leaked it and put someone in jail. Let's have congress. That live up to its own standards."

" Well. Yeah. How about that how about confirming the fact that you can't trust congress to do with this kind of information but the law provides -- norm for an administration make judgments about the stage of development of a program. And how confidential it needs to be in other words -- there's no sign of any illegal activity here I think that's right because it didn't become a real program. The question is when congress has to be informed. -- number of people -- let me read your paragraph is your question in the earlier on the law the -- this is from by the New York Times yesterday. The law are requires the president to make sure the Intelligence Committees are kept fully and currently informed. Of the intelligence activities of the United States including NEC is significant anticipated. Intelligence activity but the language of the statute leaves some leeway for judgment. Saying such briefings should be done quote. To the extent consistent. With due regard for their protection from unauthorized disclosure. Of classified information. Relating to sensitive intelligence sources and methods or other exceptionally. Sensitive -- case congress should not ever be informed about -- well let's do it it not if it's highly confidential pilot. That's the point. Anything confident you can count on congress. Or more members of the congressional staff to leak it but they do this they. What bothers me is the news coverage of this story which was carefully crafted but it doesn't have to be that carefully crafted for the liberal media to grab it increase the distinct impression. That Dick Cheney was in charge of the White House and manipulating things with nefarious purpose true or false. You're showing that they use depression for faults as to whether the liberal media has done this and it may be this is a non story. It and it's been running Sunday Monday Tuesday. Non story with the headline. Reaching the conclusion that Dick Cheney did bad things."

" Yeah it -- again I I contend that. It provides an opportunity Dick Cheney I've been silent on and on matters anyway he's going to be frost yet again into the forefront. And at a time where the administration is not doing very well with the economy Obama's numbers are slipping. You run -- wrist giving your opponent an opportunity no question unsettled in the worst thing that that happened to Democrats I think would be to investigate. The Bush Administration policies -- regard to protecting this country because it would highlight once again. That Democrats are assessed with things other than protecting the country's right and Eric Holder in the attorney general of the United States and it's and it's really not a related story but it is connected it has said now that he's thinking about. Investigating. Bush era Bush Administration. Official. And go down that route and it's a terrible idea it's why things are more important story even in the this one with the CIA. If you go down that route he's going to rue the day not only because -- that a news holder and the Democrat idea."

" This is Saudi Nelson in for Tom Finneran that's his voice yes you do recognizing. A distant memory lane -- the question three couple questions for you do you think it's a good thing for the US have a program where it would be. Having their group of people around the world finding terrorists and bumping them off deal like that idea. And it do you think that. That that Dick Cheney did anything wrong here 617266. Exceed 68. David -- find good morning your NW RKO."

" You know I I actually think it is a good thing for. US food but support -- the CA correctly. Go out and eliminate terrorists but there's only one problem well the problem is the law is now. Of course you guys for the law or at least. That's the yes and I just -- the law did you listen no no or at least that's the claim but the vice president has no constitutional right. So either he's got the okay from bush. Which he doesn't have constitutional power but provide that no cockpit of a crowd at all that we're."

" But what was the role of vice president in this day."

" Well if you can maniac he gave an order to withhold information from congress obviously. That's against the law."

" Not known under way to wait a second wouldn't be against -- if Dick Cheney has no authority. I could give orders of the CIA tonight -- it would be the same kind -- it would be their mistake at the CIA if they listened to him and he has no authority."

" You know it is against the law for the CIA to withhold information from congress. Whether or not dictate his."

" All applications -- it -- with qualifications I read you know Dark Knight yeah yeah aren't getting at all. Make. I guess I -- new law did nauert now it's no -- had no you're getting him hey do you read me your hurt and not others the New York Times version the liberal. The liberal iconic New York Times."

" Now and what is ideal. I hope Eric Holder wrote the book. -- I'm hoping and I'm praying because you had really speak it dictated feel that they you that he has had a row. Got -- boy and the kind of a government and then he can do whatever he wanted to time in -- time that the Democrats get a little bit of you know what."

" Do you think what do you think that the timing of what do you think -- Dick Cheney did that was on first of all that the question about whether. He actually CIA not to -- that the CIA not to inform -- that progress has been flatly denied our right are not. But number and by by I don't know anybody who's who should usually from boarding but certainly any money in the Bush Administration has denied secondly. Padres to very good point and that is if you're correct and he has no authority to give that instruction. What difference does it make whether he gave it because the CIA would not pay attention to it."

" You know alleviate -- popularly -- from the point. If he gave -- yeah. I had responsibility for who informed congress."

" Understand the British Dick Cheney cannot give orders to the CIA not to do that what difference does it -- he can say whatever he wants he's."

" hard and now it makes a lot of different because waited dictating. They have the authority to tell -- it's. That's the -- equipment did you know -- settlement proposed you know that you know did not help no apology lying to -- you be giving it you don't really need the only don't look good. Right."

" You know a day of which you line -- you hate Dick Cheney to the extent that you wanna see him prosecuted no matter what. And if that doesn't happen to fit the facts of the situation -- and iron law that won't get your way."

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