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" Patrice as carbon slavery exceptionally brilliant I wish I'd come up with at the club Bryant the caller came up with that OKJ and Chelsea he's still bent out of shape about the -- video lottery so you want to have a public state lottery without revealing the winner in this state. I didn't save that I don't think that I I just said I said it would be nice if I could if I win tonight it would be nice if I could escape before anybody knew my name. But I don't I understand that the their reasons why you want to have the name. Out there mr. ex wins 80 million after taxes the next day UC bill earlier why 80 driving around with a -- eating grin and then the rumors start. In this state. I understand the rumors have started I remembered -- by the rumor started 187746943 tootsie what do you -- on their sanity to skip -- barber Anderson from citizens for limited taxation. We're going to war talk to her as you probably when I'm why -- saying you probably know you probably don't know. It hasn't been Deval Patrick is going to unveil his budget tonight. He's going to. Make a speech in Melrose home of Richie to say the Republicans the state senator up there. And he's going to and it's going to be it's going to be -- that carried on all of the TV stations well it's going to be carried on one of the TV stations cable TV station. It's going to be carried on knack at New England cable news. So if you if you watch neck and you may be able to see it and the fact is though that the legislature has already scheduled to meet the budget will be released tomorrow to legislature and the legislature has already. It's scheduled hearings for Thursday morning at nine idea. Which leads me to believe that the thing is dead on arrival as I said Michael -- Sunday Saddam Hussein got more time to prepare a defense then. Deval Patrick dead anyway joining us now is Barbara Anderson from citizens for limited taxation. A Barbara thanks for -- us."
" Thank you -- hello anybody."
" Fat thank you thanks for being a witness in. You don't. Barbara what do what do you think of this of this budget that all the leaks have come out over the weekend to the globe. Trying to assure that managed trade to assure that there wouldn't be who many stories in the press about the Cadillac being driven down to DC for the government national governors' association yeah and then this morning we see a puff piece in the globe on Leslie -- when the secretary of administration and finance who we can assume was probably. Probably behind some of those leaks to the paper. But I I don't I don't think this this budgets dead on arrival as a barber."
" Well they always are and let's -- an enemy somebody expanded to mean years ago they could picture the waste basket. Government -- budget but to go to waste basket after the budget go to waste basket and it doesn't like to that they wanted to get it over the few people that would spike it's going to be. That's the way it's always been. But that's the code has that are well unconscious but a lot of budget I can't kind of a look at this not. Do any thing that the developed packet administration gaping but they're quite a fairly reasonable you know responsible budget for perspective I don't terribly dramatic. Except for the problems that S consulate problem we have with this so called property tax city."
" Well listen what they call it is in by the way if you want to speak to -- barber talk about the budget at the -- in general you give us a call 1877469432218774694322. What you've been up pointing out on the on the Internet and and elsewhere. They they keep quite -- from citizens for limited taxation and where people go -- they want to watch check up on your group or check out."
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" Okay now what you've been saying is that they keep calling a property to actually but it's actually not property to actually fatigue it's a cut in your income tax for low income people."
" Get tax he would substitute for our income tax rollback that voted voted for. That they rose just five point 3% drop."
" Then right then froze he froze. -- Finneran --"
" That's right balance veterans' protest and still both at five point 3% during the campaign -- without the are you meet the question by you about -- why don't chew on at the world of voters in poppy income tax rate well. Didn't want to do that but he could get a relapse which is devoted -- so is steady and well what will we we'd rather do a property tax cut. Okay not back pocket -- so what you gonna do. Click fitness --"
" muscle right I get a muscle them the all this equipment in Marblehead where you live for the select men in Wellesley where I live or the city councilors and the mayor of Boston."
" I could and that's what is going to that I speak about open systems that might be looking like better thought out. What task and the question -- ask that houses the sport out of my property tax they could get pot. And I asked this about my property taxes are not -- 600 dollars in -- What will they be next year if he becomes governor. And no one answered the questions like people who think like funny you have to talk about what ordered that the circuit breaker the -- tax cut that they -- That's a pretty that the income tax cut it up to do with property tax cut. But he keeps saying it and the press particularly the book to be peaking at meat -- people have reported keep talking about the property tax cut. And are trying to -- what is that. As -- it this circuit breaker and it's an income tax cut. That in and if you look back over the whole conversation they're substituting for the income tax rollback instead of giving -- all the rate dropped them 525%. They couldn't give a very few people who qualify. A credit on their --"
" Actually if you make 30000 a year in your property taxes over 3000 dollars over 10% of your income you will get attacks he would get a tax. Benefit."
" Hey you -- detect and do what it were -- flight that the average property taxes 3800 dollars. I what is -- belt at the end what it's like just speaking at 4120 you'd have to be making. Dan 41000 up 441000 dollars to get it. It's actually making -- that you make more than 46 sometimes a single people not not a complicated he wouldn't get anything -- circumstances the matter what you want is rebuilt our. But if your income is under a single filer 46000 or are well people that alpha and if you what does Serbia on property tax arm more than 10% of that. Then you can get that so."
" So disaster this is basically a tax cut for people who don't have enough money to own property to begin. So whether it was so in other words it's gonna it your right is how many people is this -- how many people as he actually talking about given a break to. Do you have an arguably numbers does anybody have any numbers."
" Some -- that 6%. It would be eligible for that I can't imagine would even come up with that because -- know that people slaughtered for built partly that's very adult caught with states. So it's estimated just get things. Based upon a number of senior it's not take this circuit break it opinion wrote to give -- whole bunch of people. Who have a low income like the -- is still and pay a lot of water and took up the property taxes they'll get. Up to -- and it's."
" They talked about 72 million dollars write the -- that figure 72 keeps reappearing here it's an -- when he three in this new movie you know they get 72000 fervor of the social secretary 72 million for the cost. But but on the other hand they want to raise my talk about 40. What they'd like that desperate. But of the fact is that they're talking about raising business taxes by what over 500 million dollars. To pay for the 72 million dollar tax cut."
" Why he would not Connecticut on -- well spent but who -- is thought to find -- trying to be mature about it -- But I have to tell you what -- and Michael Widmer the -- tactics foundation period activity because they watery taxes on pet cat that incident Boston. I can't help but celebrate a little."
" Right this is the guy who always wants -- raise taxes on you and me who says that it's irresponsible to talk about ending the tolls on the Massachusetts turnpike. Because it doesn't affect any of the people pay a salary."
" And irresponsible to do the income tax rollback. But you ordered that the telling -- that you can't afford tax cut to have all these unmet need to have all these sticks clock and suddenly comes back and slapped him in the."
" Write it after he's on the transitional president that he's on the transition team for Deval Patrick the and in all of a sudden the Paula stabs him in the back."
" Here's the problem I mean all over the years -- pit Condit has been our enemy prolonged time that they oppose prop two and a half not to mention income tax rollback. But if I find some way to tax the fat -- without it hurting job. Or they are there employees or the consumers like the telecommunication -- I don't care about that the you know at a period as well I did the -- What I do subway attacks these people these members of Michael -- foundation. I filed the -- I can't get any way to do without hurting yet without cutting off our nose to spite our face so. So -- going to do this this anti business budget."
" But he's not going to do it because they've they've already said the -- the that the best legislature money can buy he has a chip -- calls that has already said that that the market allow any of these tax these tax increases to be institute correct."
" It is interesting to see -- on the same side of the legislature."
" As -- as somebody from New Hampshire pointed out on the web but the second or third day of the Deval Patrick administration for years ago you people elected a oh -- governor. To keep the legislature from raising taxes. Now four years later your counting on that very same legislature. Too wide to prevent that the new governor from high hiking taxes it's -- it's a very serious it's a very scary situation Barbara."
" Them to I think I alleged they typically can't account of on the grown up the corner office with all the that the government took -- no new taxes pledge they're not going to do an income. Incredibly stupid that the economy. And it certainly does the government it'll have to -- the -- so traveled to get what it would happen indeed attacked because somebody have to play the role of the gonna. And -- he's doing that you know I guess."
" Enormous well. That well and Sally are we -- the that we can count on salvo on the on the local options taxes because Howell. -- look at the three parts of Boston salary presents he represents a little bit of the south that. But Chinatown and the north then. These -- the restaurant areas of the city of Boston just what the restaurants in Boston need is an extra 2% tax and other communities don't -- mean he's got I think you'll spot -- stop that part of the plan."
" So everyone does said that thing here and we don't end up the tax increases. And but we also when it's important to people develop as we do not end up. We have to without those tax increases we cannot end up with property tax relief there is no property tax cut anywhere that you wait to see your your property tax they'll put down. This is not going to happen at any the."
" Let's -- what -- let's -- one call before go to break if you want to talk to Barbara talk about the situation on beacon hill with the taxes and -- property taxes as well Susan you're next with how we card Barbara Anderson from citizens for limited taxation go ahead Susan."
" Amazing because -- already deal with -- law. Leveled -- can do property tax increase depicting the creek that that the."
" But isn't what's at this conversation we tried to have with a larger mass of voters last fallen explain to -- that this was this was a shell game that the ball was running here and they are. Want to listen to Barbara."
" The poppy practiced at this but for the faint they're going to go up that they go up getting out the got a pop it up to a half -- And doesn't matter if you get more local later you have local option taxes -- they're attacked the property taxes a credit cooperative going to go up. And -- that the cities and towns getting more money coming into our quality -- out there and cut your property taxpayers not put his house and."
" Thanks for the call Susan 1877469432 to hang on Barbara Anderson for citizens for limited taxation if you want to talk to -- she's going to be with -- the top of the hour -- now car 18774694322. Okay we got one more pair of tickets here to give away to the fifth caller right now at its. Let's make it the first call. Right now. At 60793160 to 80 will win a pair Pickett actually dirty rotten scoundrels coming to the opera house march 6 through the eight to eight. -- to win limo transportation than hurt Fleming steak house in front row seats for the show to get tickets to any upcoming show including dirty rotten scoundrels blog on the Broadway across America dot com the fifth caller right now it's 61793160 the fourth the first caller the first column. Right now at 6179311680 will win a pair of tickets to see dirty rotten scoundrels. Okay let's get Barbara Anderson back here on the line 18774694322. Gee I sure am sorry. But I won't be able to watch the and the governor on neck and at 7 O'Clock because I have satellite TV and they don't have they don't carry neck and but Barbara I'm sure you'll be you'll be watching right."
" I allowed her to be watching to -- watch it. And we're looking for the tenth -- that we're here are going to your that this world is planned cut property tax the thousands of homeowners that they'll actually start to decline."
" Do you really think he's going to say that."
" I've seen that in printed material related to the budget. I guess is that he would plan to -- they're marketing -- shortage -- market these things he probably doesn't want to prove a right. So maybe he won't fit but he did they get the --"
" It yes weekend. Except for when we -- 18774694322. It's nice to be here in Melrose tonight had a good chance those CF from the backseat of my Cadillac DT yes. Jog your next with how we card Barbara Anderson go ahead job."
" Robert Anderson is absolutely right -- property taxes skyrocket you domestic gas prices go up inflation will come back. Amicable cultural moment at the -- all blacks and right now with the -- local aid package its its state. As cities towns you've got to -- property taxes and -- unfortunately armed Baghdad Bobby long god."
" By the way did he say that last year during the campaign. That they weren't increase that the legislature the governor -- increasing locally fast enough and it actually went up 7% last year. And a what I'm told is that in this budget. That he has now he is now putting forward. The locally it is only going up 5%."
" Now that's because supposedly everybody tricked him into thinking that we had a surplus but it tactic at a deficit. They were able to figure out holly and they did that it can't."
" Clinton to his old boss remember that in 92 Clinton was all confused when he came in after promising the middle class tax cut."
" Yeah yeah -- see these move up the floor. I think that because I'd -- that in -- million wasted. In the budget or take you to find it by asking myself that hardly notice about the program and putting millions. If -- could do that -- figured -- I like there's two point oh deficit."
" Said Barbara they are the two those two numbers again seven and 2. All right 72 reaching 72000 for the for the wide social aid 72 million in in circuit breaker tax cuts and 720 million. In infrared and waste fraud and abuse."
" Although do it and yeah."
" you're next with how we car and Barbara Anderson go ahead Mike"
" it is -- Franco Republican activist and polio execute it that's couple a couple of points here number one that the -- that the city around the -- to the deputy careful that they debate -- you know and number two. If if they want -- governor catcher want it this CD -- town more authority back is wet weather in the -- and two we do attack straight quarter two point."
" Barbara what's the story with the underwear idea is is there is there -- statewide under right provision now or -- the cities and towns have to approve that themselves."
" Only those communities that have and they try to that they can do a local referendum and that. -- not most of the cities. Our most not all of the cities and some time like -- and that have that ability of the rest of us do not -- keep out of legislation to give it to every."
" Yes Scott brown has filed legislation this year right yet."
" Keep out the fourth and and that is the one thing that if you quit you to -- to prop detective -- tactical rocket accused signatures to put in the ballot and cut them directly other than that. Not going to cut to property tax."
" Now Q how bad do you think the ball's going to be Barbara you think he's going to be as bad as Mike Dukakis."
" Well what I expected to get out of Mike Dukakis but none of us could expect and what we've been looking out for the last couple weeks. So he's going to be a lot more interesting and Mike Dukakis."
" But this is the I mean he's been caught in the same kind of screw -- that laid Ed king -- early -- you know what I mean I meet some -- I mean -- he's been sort of a combination of the worst of Ed king in the worst of Mike Dukakis."
" Well -- did not run as a populist. It was the business. And who's sort of took it happens about this is something that was proper etiquette and otherwise I think that statement. It's -- like well maybe if we're lucky it's more like anti Reagan who started out with a budget cut that -- the federal government but by China. Which by the way she did she -- money privately for but it with a bad image and they got over it and went on to have a successful president -- though. Maybe he's learned his lesson. I would think he'd get -- the government of the Cadillac at a the government is seven to 2000 dollar yet that the department could be happening."
" All agree he. He took that he had someone else he did he took a plane to Washington and then he gets he had the state trooper. Drive the Cadillac down there and I I still don't get that wanted it it doesn't make any sense why would you do something like that has has that ever occur to anybody when they're going to say you know our place that's for five hours away to it to take a plane and then have someone else drive your car down."
" The can't get pregnant which is so ridiculous correctly dimension that is is he just wanted to shell rocket Jakarta the other -- what -- would you do. Let me of that."
" Is is he that shallow over here for being here."
" Well locate the what possible reason. Thank you could tell us what get a read was in my opinion maybe in particular occasion afterwards and needed a carpet -- to come right back for the buckets filled a little vacation. I can't think of any other reason has --"
" I can't think of why he needs that why he needs to have his wife have a personal secretary because other than to pay off -- gore and over her and her husband Norman's work during the campaign to meet."
" speak of are saying this summer basically but again I can't cannot give fuel but you keep jobs to do for the rest of of my administration. This pumping raw impact beyond the -- undersecretary for flight."
" Ju member of the Ed king lobster -- lobster or graphic in the Boston globe -- in the days those were in the days when everybody read the Boston globe an it's a Sunday you'll especially it had. A circulation IPO about 800000 it's now I think 500000. But in those everybody in the states saw that lobster -- Ed king had nothing he ordered the lobster for the state troopers."
" He told me didn't like lobster but that became AM ET and and and and it'll hurt -- a third of the globe. But that quickly did you get the -- by."
" Epic battle all the federal. If you -- against Spain this beautiful -- anything about the Cadillac for a whole week though."
" They did and then and then again they -- they still haven't mentioned the fact that went down to DC. Have --"
" It got to find out why 1877469432 to thank you Barbara see you tomorrow everybody on the point guard"