" To reflect back whatever we want reflected if this is the big news story. -- that have fun what's the big deal you can have a ton of on the -- used to it fun. But you could you you would do a ton of public good if you head two minutes of Ed Markey on cap and trade. In two minutes of Todd Feinberg react and yeah but if you write if you start off with -- there'd be no audience left -- ha ha ha ha ha ha. -- 6172. I don't know are you."
" Is this provocative. -- the T even be discussing this is anyone care about this debate anymore even her sister's old. Over the hill I knew we had this debate during the Clinton Years he was only line about -- the part that bothers me about the lack of attention is. Did people get swayed by tagline it's. I used to watch feel like Lanny Davis are or Lanny Davis in Ronald Riley saying or whatever the -- you know I'm handing -- homes maybe. Saying he was only line about sex I'm thinking I wanna dumb statement that it sees only lying about sex. What the hell label EU you can say that I think people lie about a few -- court of law and lie. You're deceiving the -- you're sending the court off. There are under which handles pop yeah so you could be lying about whether it was a sunny day or a rainy day now and that could just decide whether somebody goes to prison the rest of their lives or not you can't trivialize what the -- of buyout. If you're lying in a quarter -- that's an offense to the system right out."
" But. But but but let's make -- different let's point out the obvious difference. If you're lying when you are under oath you've taken an oath right if you know for a reporter asks you -- Hey Todd did the you have -- a relationship outside of marriage cannot under any obligation it's a little recorder from the globe anything you say no comment you can just say he has had nothing at all. Or you can -- reason why are you can say what you can may have been faithful to -- Ortiz you know every every moment of --"
" The -- is is worth -- a yup but I -- you know that the Clinton thing was the Bill Clinton lied to the -- about -- on video and -- with the Clinton -- the real tragedy. Was that the American public would have forgiven him in a moment if he set obviously just don't doubt your effort to say you know what. I just did the most vile thing I can imagine the dumbest thing -- I have time -- Hillary I have time Chelsea upon my own reputation. Have done a disservice to my name my reputation bubble -- Terrible thing yet tried the finger what I would try to -- their forgiveness when he get about in does the finger wag -- has basically to us the American people I did not have -- actually overly sexual relations this is a vast right wing conspiracy and he brings his wife into kind of talk about the best rate that we pitchers. He -- it he is just compound in the Arab. By a hundred fall so -- fools around with some bill be sappy nineteen year old went up -- Not the first time it's happened not the last time I make no excuse far the biggest mistake was. Notches stealing just due to elicit RP -- you're so clever."
" And that was one of the nice things Mark Sanford -- essar are we recently -- talked about when these stories I said why do they always bring their wives. And he went along which was nice now for his wife probably wouldn't show up yeah but it was nice city just stood there along and are going to be here -- can -- fashion -- you know Eliot Spitzer brings his -- communities trying to hang onto the family fortune apparently she's very well maybe it's -- I don't know somehow -- while that you know I'd leave it -- that he did leave even the dog should remain in through the -- a -- your -- Shred of dignity -- has not be asked to stand by and by the physical presence. Uphold you know sort of moral shenanigans. And it also takes the whole. Idea of of spousal support to such a ridiculous. Point. Sure that it it discredits the whole notion of -- creation of a woman in discus woman who's already been humiliated. She's already humiliated by marks in his behavior early it's it's -- BOB Spitzer spent as well I'll hook up and -- read and -- I mean and is just read a -- what I'm saying is when you when you somebody comes out and support you for example. A Mark Sanford staff was issuing statements the whole time trying not to lie -- is distinct impression. That this was not a big deal they knew where he was true and even though they had minute regular communication they have gotten messages. That he needed to get away. He was just trying to let some steam off after the intense pressure of the the stimulus fighting in in South Carolina they -- worried. Doing something that after the fact makes me look. At the way the news media reports those statements as if their ballots simply because they've come from an official spokesman of the governor you know -- then you start to scrutinize a little bit more what you trust. When a wife stands there and now by her man while he's confessing to these wrongdoings you're. That has no wait. Because we look at the -- other socket and opt for the team up. It has no power and he doesn't yeah it's much more powerful that he stood there without his look it's been without -- calling without his wife without his kids and took it himself."
" And they're alone and NN in this case you know -- big -- about it and just -- what I did was wrong I'm not going to make an excuse for -- not. Is it does no G the pressures of the office created weakness in me or anything else he didn't do any of that cannot. Mealy mouth Malarkey that he get -- times during during an -- like just."
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" The last five days my crying in Argentina. So it could repeat it gave back here. In saying. Well in the from heart level that was something real. It was a place based on the fiduciary relationship ahead to the people south -- based on the -- my -- Com can."
" It's a big load of -- But I'm I'm not. I let's get down to it should the media not be covering this story and."
" Should do. Mark Sanford -- run out of office what's your reaction 617266. Spitzer should not be run out of office now should not be run out of office the media has to cover the story. The don't have to give at the intensity when you read that editorial board meeting or whatever you want college the editorial meeting -- you've got thirty minutes. Nine of its gonna go to commercials anyways tonight -- 121. When you -- probably spent seventy you know whether because that's how stupid would become as a society and as a nation -- you -- for how the -- and where this up cap and trade is not more important that campaigns and could. -- could save the world which will be viewpoint you have. Went to boy who's who marks in finished chasing and tackling and a wrestler with. Oh please I."
" They're good cultural stories these types of stories we learn about our culture we have a chance to flesh out issues and discuss ways for example is it appropriate for guy. Who's in a long term marriage to get involved with another woman -- matter is it's it's not appropriate and then -- the punishment. -- the punishment does whatever his wife decides is the punishment. They considered strictly a personal site app doesn't influences -- the voters the voters of South Carolina is it is it doesn't make a difference to them in the daily lives their opportunities to interview only killing not them should be the fact that he abandon his post and didn't -- to our show proper procedure -- and that and that is I like this -- I like considering what's wrong with a guy. They hairy his own one day a considering leading presidential possibility show and that the next day he's is careers over essentially. 61726666. He -- can Wakefield you're on with Tom and Todd good morning."
" You know let me preface my equipment. -- want a war. Can't. The next president. Elections. But I think it's good. The media covered this story. He was -- this is. -- You people -- that this individual. Would. The theory of nuclear football. Because. Yes but a apologies was any indication that the."
" Can you imagine what the nuclear football he'd be playing catch whether there -- failure can fears about its purpose 6172666. C six C it was a rambling -- I'm not sure disjointed want not job. Jeff in Salem good morning to you sir --"
" government did you put up. -- of course you should be -- does not but not what he did in his personal life but he abandoned this post where what city you know this -- a company. The capital probably going on the right now we hired -- a part of to a certain job. They didn't know where it's eighty didn't pass power today lieutenant governor he didn't do everything that's -- run out of office all the rules laws that."
" There's there's no rule requiring him to be in 24 sevenths -- if somebody didn't know you're right that that was a mistake but I don't know if it was just."
" Stay we stake to French and it's it's free it probably the president didn't nobody did were large would probably possible but that's. -- The president of the presidency -- four -- the -- dumping -- charge of the National Guard at that stage presence job as a little more you know why I'm six lead that's pretty alternate pop he'd been charged the national part of that's they would do it -- our heart came into something like that most -- days."
" That's certainly true that there's a potential. For there to be -- and -- on this one Jeff hip and if the hurricane -- hit the South Carolina coast you know the other on officials I'm gonna sit there it would -- comes in oh gee whiz mark we can't act. If the guy is that stupid in that we've gone for that. -- I'm gonna. Run right that's. A good point I think the guy made poor decisions so he falls in love with a woman in Argentina. Is this a way to handle. You know could knee was he's unable apparently to manage. The difference between. His his at all responsibilities and the fact that he's gotten emotional thing on truck. What is that something that week we write it give people that much slack. That's simply because they fall in love that they fall apart which is really what we're seeing from him he fell apart. Because he's got a girlfriend you know and it and ebbing of France say the girlfriends go to the funeral and in and they hang out what the why he's his."
" Following up high in terms of you know the you know his his heart strings and where is mind is with regard to his private life. This does not at this point seem to have affected his judgment on political matters he's been fighting the topic why -- why do with dollars governors don't make any pressure decisions. They make long term tactical they sit around with consultants -- Well should we pretend that we were always against this. -- always be against it starting now or shall we pretend to be against it but then maneuver behind the scenes to make sure it doesn't -- that -- that happens that's kinda decision is up an -- all this so you don't think he should be bounced from office for this like that's upsetting people you know take is there's enough reactions South Carolina can decide that I don't. I don't see why. We need to be upset at people for living their lives you know even if they screw up to me it's a great educational and love this story I love -- flashed out. I like seeing how real people respond to real situations. And then we all learn from it Psycho societal exchange and update on values now and the decisions and how we should view things. Do I approve forty did know him he's -- four. Boys -- any left those four boys to be humiliated Shura. But -- righteous humiliated there's no question is worse you know wives are adults kids are kids know when you have children -- when you have the responsibility. For children. Your job is to do what ever you can to make sure. -- they are they get to live in that protected zone of child witness you know there are ever going and we all worked really hard for the kids we love to make sure that nothing violates that zone of protect in this they need to reach adulthood never -- hearing their parents fighting. Not in not having the stress of adulthood comin' down on them that's the ideal situation and here's a guy who not only violated that but an -- protest square off. 617266. Exceeds sixty in my can almost went -- morning."
" Good morning -- Mike. I don't think he was totally out of contact -- it came back a day early so obviously it wasn't contact."
" He was like every day or two we was calling -- anybody you know his these staff claims it in no worry why's he told the news on the Appalachian trail. And that his cellphone was shot off so they couldn't call him because apparently you don't want to traced."
" That's really after the people South Carolina to decide them. I am I am I really should've brought I think this qualified. For presidency. But they shouldn't in the same treatment in the Preston John Edwards. He he he he -- total weasel. You know look at his wife was sick with cancer and run around and the press wasn't. No that's shouldn't have not been for The National Enquirer are the John Edwards Serena -- would have broken them. So you know like to see them for the quality out their fair and balanced in the press."
" If you. -- sorry honey I just want to ask if I just want to send you leave it to the citizens South Carolina was wondering. If he was as citizens of South Carolina does he does he Darren Collison legislated today and say demand that SOB's resignation ya -- wrapped. I expect you to push. -- he is. Resignation if he doesn't resign -- expect you to push for an impeachment is that it lets make it plainer if this were our governor would we want to go we want to run out of -- exactly now I think we want to see Norman in Argentina."
" Personally. 617 o'clock o'clock to six I'm Heidi you decide I do he would -- 666. Zero o'clock lava is she saying FF I could not get hit with --"
" Our guys played early this is Jim -- I don't -- I thought of something I've heard you say more than one let's -- wealthy -- The absence of absolute moral values that we haven't -- culture of yup and it that's the that's the first thing became in my mind you saying dat. In -- because if this guy you know stepping ornaments lights and you know I I. More and more I hear about marriage and fidelity and I -- and long term averages. You know 25 studio marriages middle aged people protect people all the all the middle aged. It seems like it would have been it would what's happening is it's the big thing the whole institution of marriage. And and it seemed like I hit it but I need -- time they say all white married because it. You know we -- to think of all -- how they -- along with these what these foreign allies. Yeah always it's really -- You know irreparable and end up. It it just you know when I always thought when you marry you -- safe call -- you know what that in not -- the other."
" Is really added I try to be as practical and pragmatic responsible politics is not going I'm not looking for messiah might decide -- I don't -- in my way or another minus. You're not going to be hit like a scum bag it up a leader right in of the candidates will parade before us in the coming in the next couple months -- is whatever might be I'm gonna probably lead in the direction when Jimmy the guy who's been. Faithful to his family shows a sense of our responsibility to those closest to what I'm going to lean that way before -- to some guy whose top cap around but. And yet not the end of the world the extent that if I've got a good governor and he -- time captain guy. About going to from up because of the tomcat there's."
" I like to elect a man or woman who I didn't criticize him we'll have that -- and I am I want to look up to them. I want people leaving me could have batted in May not that Big East may. I really feel bad right."
" Understood and I think is I think it's bigfoot just about all of us at the same bad do you then say. This moral -- this moral aspiration I have is an absolute. Little planet an absolute manner so so for governor goes out on a weekend in has a couple of drinks. More than he should have is is that grounds that -- gee that's not the type of model that we want in our public."
" So that's a good example I think because it's something everybody can relate to do to shore up and it all so. Draws on those kinds of behavioral questions were you judge somebody's ability to handle themselves in normal circumstance. But I think it's a minor enough offense that you know then the question is does he get in the car. And drive and that brings it to another level. I would Jimmy on the moral stuff but. I I think what's dubbed the bigger issue here in terms of his performances as as the governor is that he. Seems to have lost his ability to function. On a judgment level. End in not only did -- fall in love with somebody but these -- out of control falling in love with somebody. That's got to concern you about a leader right well -- can do some things to 6172666868. What are you point out Kevin instead OK you're on WRKO Kevin."
" Mortal -- thank you must not wear that jacket back door -- during the era presidential arm our primary. Are. Say they would put an interview with Ross Perot. And it was built more like an infomercial Barack Obama violent infomercial. There's an emeritus statement that I always remember that the that would read his company's. If you don't doubt that any of his executive. Anybody in the first in a position of our trust the leadership. Effort cheated on his -- any infidelity. He caught wind of that they were fired because if they -- them -- could -- truck and I don't remember that I I agree with that as well."
" All right that's a good boy boy I think we're at a different place societal late in terms of our -- being top down managed. By people who really -- don't have any business in our personalized. 61726666. He it's Tom and Todd 680 WR --"
" I think what's interesting about morality in the public sphere is whether it's do we live that out in terms of their being stricter rules. And people get discarded if they violate the transgressions that's the old way. And maybe you were moving into an area in which. It's more. Long term like how to somebody live their lives who we know people make mistakes show but -- how'd they deal with those mistakes because. You know we all fall. In -- and make mistakes and everything we do."
" And we are and we just we have a disdain for hypocrisy and most candidates will try to present themselves as as close to God's gift to mankind as possible. Perfect wife perfect children per effort family man great values it's on the family values family values so won the fall comes. And it's been a -- possibly human history for so long we have we have a little bit to joy because we can mock. The hypocrisy of those people who stay in -- posture to put this -- gathering this."
" Oh look there's something good about the posturing to I think it's good for us to say certain things are forbidden and to have those clear rules because. Otherwise you end up Korea are today where if you can dial rules yet then you're basically encouraging bad behavior and that's where have a problem with governors. Course current and doing stupid things -- presidents who were saying while I was only -- lying about sex what you're saying is there are no boundaries but after somebody's violated boundary -- say okay let's see how you react today do you like Bill Clinton. Or do you stand up like Sanford did he -- ended it."
" He put the country through trial after trial hundreds of millions of dollars the back and forth that can stay investigation after investigation. It's the end up admitted do you really think the American public was going to throw Bill Clinton out because of -- nonsense with Monica Lewinsky. Absolutely positively not shame on him for what he did but it's what that. It let Hillary apply the punishment that to throw a president out of office or in this case the government to me. Mrs. mrs. Santa knows."
" analyst Sheila Dixon -- seven. Well she -- said she and -- know where he was using steroids. Six 72666. Seats succeed globally Rosalie is on the -- the morning laugh. How did a hundred carrier that I was that's scratchy voice did you just wake up."
" The last night you know and it almost made -- act like M what these do."
" Just a massive effect I mean it's all about him he can be too much information about how they met and crying over her and all that stuff. Panorama with them out that's their problem."
" There's a huge NASA schism Rosalie. In in in in certain candidates they really do think the world in the universe revolves around them there right. It it is -- a lot of it is nonsensical I'm glad you -- so quickly throw."
" I'd probably have to. I better go back to sleep low and aren't in the going to come -- with those -- like. That -- serious -- our -- great -- yes but -- up this morning. Six on 72666060. Jack in the carrier NWR --"
" guys paid as I've ever have a security clearance and doubt what he's positioned something that they are Florida agents. And that -- on the bottom. He can beat -- I mean what yes so what congressman what part of that you what do you know when he can be compromise the compromise their country."
" That's a reasonable argument is they're really is -- he would have had -- have type the security clearance when he was a congressman who was a three term pronouncement. Would not have it anymore I -- national intelligence does not total local you know to local state -- some kind of intelligence does in -- get briefed on certain things in certain circumstance -- they -- I get briefed on all this going to be -- heightened alert you know so and so is picked up you know some kind of traffic you know we've intercepted some kind of radio -- homeland -- that -- now that with three deaths. State secrets it's WRK atomic Todd let's go to Maynard for bill -- Cybill."
" Hello good morning hey -- what's gonna. But really it's not for themselves to me in -- April himself to be any."
" Am I and that's fair enough he did they actually act like a complete it even yesterday with his so concession speech. It was a rambling sort of spontaneous song that was -- idiotic Arianna."
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" These cloud got some conflict from Jocelyn -- would be better -- Well you'll remember. That she used the words and just a surgeon general -- Bill Clinton -- in -- said that there are a lot of people should be playing so."
" That's who she read our that's our job desertion from masturbation that's exactly right that's exactly. How that was a long -- until it's funny that that hasn't growls into being with -- sort of a national when you're running for went over when you're running for office and the -- you know which party endorses that -- it didn't catch on as an as an issue but. As powerful as it was at a time gene in Sudbury your necks and WRKO paging."
" I don't want to -- out what's going on. Well I have an associate. I know we talked openly about cheating on his wife didn't. He traveled. That's up called life around that this type of behavior I think it's very disturbing that this guy is -- traveling across it'll. The world to meet other women."
" Disturbing because it creates a precedent that others to look at and say this kind of behavior is okay."
" All right well I think it's just so calculating it's almost like beat. We -- he has mental problems."
" I I think is he appears to have something going wrong. And in maybe it's a permanent condition maybe it's a moment he's reaches lifers freaking out but yet how are you governor of a state. You worked for years to get to this position powering are actually being touted as a potential presidential presidential candidate and I can't make better judgments on this -- gene makes a good point too -- To the X -- and and I think gene what I take from --"
" This so much deception literally get distracted from your job give him Leo you distract from everything could you trying to figure out how win win yeah. And how to what you know how are totally do it without leaving any yet trail without leaving any footprints you don't throw it becomes very different."
" Let's go to -- Rosa said narcissism and somebody who is so self obsessed is is it possible let his his vision does not penetrate his own skull. In all he seizes his own greatness in his own needs and -- people say it's kind of a loner and he's not very likeable. And eighty cents to keep it all to himself in the run autonomously any makes decisions that appear odd. Because he doesn't providing context are now for the women and what people understand. And maybe it's a habit of that kind of you know I do in my way thing Marion and over high."
" I ought to art article it -- I've ever heard that in -- airline. But before that respects -- they look like they needed help so forget it turned out of the stimulus package says all right need to know about the man judgment. I want to say that whether it still went. On where these guys. Are also called earlier. She got it right but not that that is all -- well regardless of what. Politically. Democrat republic and whether Giuliani went and on separate them to open up a spark. Of goodness. For the most part even though. Many radical feminists really don't they make it more than the simple work well -- For many of them think -- this despicable cheating on -- that I think -- the concrete if it happened. -- we haven't seen Kate yet it is certainly possible where's this can be overcome what people find it. Up taxable."
" is objectionable I don't think it's anyone's gonna debate you on that thank you -- more coming up on 680 WRKO. -- You."
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