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Dismembered or Cooked?
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Dismembered or Cooked?

Published:Mon, 8 Jun 2009
Description:Two Catholic high school buddies are accused of murdering a 37-year-old Guatemalan immigrant and then dismembering and burning his body at a Walpole cement business all over a massive drug debt, prosecutors alleged today. How did this guy get a job at the pike?
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" Yes it is I Howie Carr. In a meat to those who make him an enemy friend to those who have no friends. 1877469432218774694322. That is the toll free. Number of the Howie -- show if you would like to join us here this afternoon and every weekday afternoon. If you would like to listen to the show on the -- can always do so go to our web site which is how we car at dot com how we cart dot com collect on the alive. Audio streaming also what how we cart dot com you can take part in the daily Internet poll question -- Paul was brought to you by Jeff Carbone insurance. Contact the commissioner Jeff -- insurance dot com to save money on your auto and home insurance. Jeff Carbone insurance dot com to save money on your auto and home insurance -- You heard Barack talking today weren't deep recession we've -- that cut in their -- said that the recession is deep in. There's still blaming the Republicans is a story in USA today about how what. All of the key in. New Jersey who's running this fall he's he's drug running against his Republican opponent the former US attorney and George Bush. That's going to be the -- mantra for 2010 the going to still run against George Bush apparently blame George Bush. But. Barack says the everything's turning around. This it. Do you think every what do you think it is and how are things. Going just was listening on CNBC is -- you know work kind of stalled out here the rally was nice and it was a big rally but you know we're stalled out the though the a bond rates are -- rising -- interest rates are rising for the interest rates keep rising that's going to freeze freezing any kind of housing recovery. So that our poll question today is about the economy CNB what is today's poll question and what are the results thus far. Okay. Go ahead is the economy turning around to know it's not. Currently. A 100%. Harwood he put -- with a -- got depressed I'd taken a poll. What do you want me to say he had no idea. Another bomb making wishy washy poll you know well Ali yeah eats gas know about the same but I you know I'm from. I've learned. Over the years of for the fashion in the poll questions every day that it's best to reduce it to black and white yes sir no. You know that's the way to go. In anyway 18774694322. As the toll free number. Of about how we car show. I got to ask you something today about they talk about back ram I mean. The the situation. With these that this care. People were accused of murdering. Dismembering. And then looking guy they accused of -- this guy and -- in a bad drug deal. Yeah I guess that I then did all the body has disappeared but one of the die if one of the arrested guys is that part owner of big RJ Bradley company which boasts of serving quote. All your client. -- needs serving all your concrete meets. Like people it why anyone to -- to -- disappear but nobody thought he actually eat them white anything that they. -- him no way I think that -- I don't know I don't know we think that they ate them. But they they were just trying to reduce them you know may be like reduced the size you know try to boil off some of the I think you know again I'm getting very graphic though some of the shot my body right. The victim's body okay let's see -- Kia. -- is -- and the reason I was into Pall mall Kia is accused of shooting her marriage sees a Guatemalan immigrant and apparently a drug dealer EO. More Kia owed to our Ramirez seven degree in the making -- a cocaine deal. He is accused of shooting her marriage in the back with a 357 caliber pistol the victim's body was then taken to Bradley's concrete business. Where Nelson said Bradley dismembered demand remains. This Nelson is a prosecutor. The prosecutor said one final effort was made to eliminate evidence of the killing quote it was clocked. Nelson said of Ramirez's body it was -- By the way the Paul multi of the reason I'm bringing this up is. If he's a toll taker for the Massachusetts turnpike authority try not to let this destroy your faith in the integrity of the Massachusetts turnpike authority. Beat the the other guy by the way is Daniel Bradley he is a he he is up. They are part time football coach in the in it that is they've been. Is a Varian Brothers high school. And apparently the district attorney knows him because -- son went has been. So Varian Brothers high school. But here's what I'm interest event. This guy -- Kia okay. Now according to the stories. Multi. Used to be. A guard for three days. Working for the Suffolk County sheriff's department this was back in 1987 he he worked for three days. And at the end of three days you know what happened he was fired as a guard at the Charles street jail after he was arrested on. I -- charges in 1987. Cocaine charges. The disposition of that case was not available last night says -- Boston Herald. But my question is. If you're arrested on cocaine charges and fired from the Charles street jail as a prison guard after only three days. How I have to -- get a job on the Massachusetts. Turned. Like handling cash."

" Are there any. Standards. Other than having a political sponsor. Who was this guy's political sponsor that's -- I want to know. Did he apply that. I don't see any I don't eat you know. He might have even had problems getting to be AEA -- an on air host -- WORK now. You know who I think there was there -- other and I I just don't I don't know what the hell is gold. When his his."

" His father -- his father his lawyer -- Kia. Who has two sons lives in -- and has worked at the Mass Pike collecting holes for thirteen years says his is attorney Stephen booze and he's a good man and he's -- good father. -- That's from the globe listen to this this is from. This the the -- that no that was from The Herald the globe now says. He said he has two sons and a sick mother and that he works is much overtime at the turnpike guess again. And spends the rest of his time. With his family. More except for the time when he's dealing cocaine apparently which is something he's been doing for a long time. I'm released he's been arrested a couple times for dealing -- once for dealing cocaine. -- saying the attorney said smokey would not have enough time to be a drug dealer."

" CNB asked me if I knew this guy. But just you know from writing around the place in the I have you know I know -- been accused of spitting on quarters. Five million before I hand them over to the need to be Paul collectors on the Mass Pike but. I have never and I and I would deny that by the way but I can tell you Cindy that. No toll taker has ever offered to sell me any kind of drag cocaine heroin marijuana any prescriptions. Nothing. And they are invited you over for dinner. No they haven't and I would never go for dinner lest I end up like miss seeing your room merits form from Guatemala. But you must need us. You -- need a big pot to cook somebody. Unless they he had do you think did you think they were bacon am I mean is that is that a possibility I mean. They they it's very imprecise here when he says he was clocked. Then there's no there's no they they also apparently don't say whether or not they think that you know he's at the bottom of some you know concrete. Delivery that the of that that this company has made. But anyway that's I'm just telling you this is these are hiring standards at the Massachusetts turnpike authority. Guy gets a guy gets arrested for Coke dealing fired after three days as a guard then gets a job but the turnpike. And now he's been arrested and charged with murdering a drug dealer and it embed dismembering him keep his body. Don't get many crap does want to say it doesn't matter what they do know -- no -- they weren't gloves because they're afraid of us. Why and if they're -- get germs school he's four months. 18774694322. Eddie you're next with Howie -- go ahead daddy."

" Probably that we do -- today. -- part -- the -- was horrified at today's list and I'm just curious do you think he was perpetrated that."

" Well this is bad I don't know what it does go on for very long publicly or more calls -- Ari but by 1877. Force it by the way we have the at courthouses staked out today. If there's -- if there's a verdict in the Clark Rockefeller kidnapping case the jury has that case we will be hearing from a laurel suite at The Herald. And Dave wedge is a down at the federal courthouse and he's covering the S album may seek. Arraignment a little later this about an hour from now. And we'll have him on as well 18774694322. Wally your next with Howie -- go ahead Wally."

" 350 degrees -- five or six hours they are out of balls."

" Or call 800 thanks Wally. 1877. Foresee that in a concrete plant you wouldn't have like a crematorium or anything like that I would just. Amid mixed concrete wouldn't they don't turn so some are why would you have a furnace and a concrete I I garbage darn dark -- at an apartment building used to have a furnace. I had no -- I don't know what the you know they have these new environmental laws to you know I mean I think I don't they allow you like open airborne much anymore this early on our our you -- your burning inside something. 1877. -- ash -- on the street I mean you now of course that is an option -- they said they found something they found. Something on a yet. On the shoes of one of these guys they found some DNA on the shoes. That David can end Keating the NBA have by the Norfolk County -- a good guy by the way he he got a conviction in. 2002 want to guy who -- for killing his wife you know what they found you know where they found -- DNA that punch in the door with chainsaw. In their wood chipper in anybody's you know environment in this particular case I don't -- had no concrete and wood -- is not go along the other don't think. 18774694322. When this guy when this football coach was telling his players they had a heart about he was he wasn't kidding around I guess was a rich your -- with how we cargo ahead rich."

" how to get reward for the turnpike where one -- Mother's Day this year the kind of look at doorway over. It could help how do you miles -- you mean he's third or could have called a man you meet Easter but yeah yeah Brady yeah northeastern yeah I mean let's face it we always get bell."

" Yeah he does and good to be a Coke dealer because he's too busy working overtime. Except on -- I doubt I can tell because -- has got to be a very got to be a very religious guy to be doing stuff like this right thanks for the thanks for the call rich 1877469432. To another -- next with how we cargo ahead rich."

" I Alley. The the DEA that you mention that I think is just not hit bottom. Yeah up they Jardine. Those guys didn't get together and often those guys they got together and they got -- How they got they."

" I'm just gonna kill and destroy people move on move on thanks for the call -- Jack your -- with Howie Carr go ahead Jack."

" They're Jack."

" Gone -- in your next with how we cargo ahead Brian."

" Did I how -- bottom on the web page or are they cooperating now attorney buddy cooperating witness without -- the Macy's. Yup the web page that -- our dignity to our how to do any good have you wreckage field."

" All that's yeah let's go right yeah oh lot of composite -- yeah I don't tell the other -- it's going to be to witness against apparently to pause -- have they as a web page and he says he'd get your court records sealed."

" Not really how does the -- you know the question they opt my work this morning whatever read this story is you know Harvard guy -- what got pregnant got to get -- after three days. To be -- job collect."

" Think that's why I said Bryant I mean don't they ask you don't they ask your question. You don't why did you leave your have you ever had a job in the public sector yes why did you leave your job. I was arrested because I was selling club because I was accused of selling cocaine I mean shouldn't that be the end of application right there Brian."

" Well it certainly should but like good -- got a while -- you know conviction are always continue without fighting. You know it's an all disappeared after a little bit of time."

" Yeah no it doesn't apparently it does I wonder what disguise -- record is like guys smoky even has if I what do you would you again that -- gets arrested for dealing cocaine I mean that's like a big story -- think could be some kind of follow -- you think he would have been convicted but apparently I don't know what happened to the records I don't know what happened at the charges. Thanks for the call Bryant 18774694322. -- your back with how we corridor ahead Jack."

" I'll come back I'll admit to that title and I remember -- try to bomb went. Which one you know what they've CNN -- got so awful yeah yeah yeah. I looked at a company were just feel like -- guys tools picked up those bags and complement. Gods when they demo remember just -- a guy c'mon give me and you don't do it like explode double strike carpetbagger every tool right then and what -- map and that was that."

" Really believe that they remember him saying anything's."

" asked what exactly. Guitar commodity here with -- you know if we just probably just make it Charlie went into the back of a -- enough away they want."

" Let me give you a hand with -- yeah."

" That was because it was -- is so low bar go to market yeah they ought to."

" The let's end here where is it I'm just looking for good names there there's the names -- one of these stories Joseph Romano of -- Yeah well -- found guilty of killing his estranged wife Catherine Romano and this remembering her with a borrowed power Warsaw investigators found the woman's DNA on the saw."

" Yeah what they get down to the -- about a rock just so that that Paul Bob yeah but smoke. And I'll. But that this guy did this this this -- that was in the prison I mean idiotic clean record pride and -- what are little background check before that. I mean he's -- available little political -- nice political pull to get -- least -- cushy job."

" Yet -- I I agree Jack I had I would like to know the answer to that question who was his sponsor Ferraro both of these jobs does your right I mean especially getting the turnpike job after you've been fired or at doesn't as a jail guards for so."

" I -- an application per adult whoever thought. But you don't -- a budget they don't do it."

" yeah with a phone don't ring judge you'll know it's the Mass Turnpike authority thanks for the call dusty here next with Howie -- go ahead dusty."

" Okay Brian you're next with how we cargo ahead -- and."

" you have to say anything about Ben -- the women a group bought us."

" Who Lowell I'll go to god that another bad joke why do you have to cut its everybody is just -- thank you Brian and 18774694322. Someplace dribble just have to get these bad jokes out of their system. Ted you're next with Howie -- go ahead Ted."

" How -- quite good. -- I think I need to voice -- and get the voice change the witness protection program about how we car show. Has no one learning Niger -- Oreo -- yeah I know I. Now what could go all what you went to this Catholic high school that they went to. Yet I get yeah. And first of all no surprise. A second a ball beware how they would great yeah. Really big opinion they're not what ability in this endeavor."

" Why would you Orion is okay -- behind your your -- behind you want to doorway with a guy who supply and yet that's it's a horrible thing to do but it's understandable. Why the hell to somebody else help out. That's why don't get."

" But what they did mention about it on the -- I'm sure are needed on the quite put his record."

" Really so in other words they are you shocked that he was a guard even for three days -- it's Charles street jail. -- Tell me this guy was troubled from day one you know what I know. Boy in the original movies related anybody period. -- I don't know -- related the other guy I'm actually sort of -- comprise about. Yeah I'd say about how big that would much her relationship when they go way back when those guys but. It's pretty dark."

" Yeah DN Bradley is the assistant football coaches to Varian Brothers high school. And nineteen disposed of Ramirez's audio and cement business. Again that's a slogan of the cement company is serving all your concrete me -- Thanks Ted Greg your next -- I think that's pretty funny -- It's good slogan. You don't -- whoever we -- one timer another head concrete needs. 1877469432. To -- your next with how we cargo ahead Greg."

" I -- a good. Yet we'll sounds like the Mass Turnpike must feel the same employment agency at the acorn you don't -- they look there's not use this followed up with the overall."

" Yeah that's a good way Greg I think that probably aren't they -- does speed your next with how we cars dusty back very high eight."

" They out of a bad start when I read that story with a -- but dig up -- bottom three at some farmer's daughter at all like concrete. David I'm not a union asked."

" But that's a good point -- have they ever handle Libya a big big business remember it remember they want sure wimpy Bennett's body out of PR gun club would be in his brother Walter Bennett's -- and they couldn't they couldn't find -- because they -- so much Phil from the Big Dig out of the gun club."

" by the union guy right within -- giant stadium right."

" Well I mean this if you're Paula Coughlin Jimmy Hoffa got through -- bush -- this guy this guy smoking is going to be a -- right disease the Teamsters are the ones who represented. The -- the toll takers."

" I've carried out at them. This is this is a T I hate to say this dusty. Because army union -- myself for was a one point but this is a teamster tradition isn't it first first half up. Getting Barry does now smokey accused of Barry and another guy attempts to Tom thanks jets it's a terrible thing thanks for the call -- wanted -- team started tried not to let that destroy your faith in the American labor movement 18774694322. Mark your next with Howie Carr go ahead mark."

" I would going to get the smoky guts the Ali I don't let them speak indifferent to."

" and goodbye. Mike you're next with how we cargo ahead Mike."

" They're our armed thank you. Bear lover okay village slow court provision monitor what you're stressed out all her uncle thought we'd pick up the tab firm jokes. -- told they're gonna know Baird -- so 9 o'clock I'm almost sponsored merit have a local barbershop. Really. Sort of want to okay well there's sellers Leavitt you're -- accomplished that that all the tall."

" Paul I don't I don't know that's a good point I'd like to know who picked up the -- like to know picked up the cost thanks -- And 18 -- I -- the main thing no one knows who knows what politicians name was on smoking is application form from a Mass Turnpike toll takers job. Chuck you're next with how we cargo ahead --"

" And I used to working concrete and he is -- attic enacted in order to get that concrete off of trucks and tool everything else. Would you say he was caught they probably just stuck a bat out container it. Still that would periodic gap it not really good for dissolving body but it it'll get rid of most everything you've given enough -- that -- was caught."

" How what how long do you think it would take to get rid of a body and that and that ten --"

" You caustic soda which is the paint you could get rid of it really fast that's put them back tickets yeah so but I did you -- static gap that it would just trying to. So offered up quality articulate. It would take very long time you don't like. A week herself in order to get rid of all you if you -- a -- argued it'll Adam finished. This salt thank you other ball would stop -- take a while -- to go away. You get something left over that looks like it will not cooked."

" Well and -- need to do is you know I mean the bones I mean you could just like gore rounded stroll -- bridges and things like that right nobody what are."

" It it'll eventually come apart cartilage and things like that don't don't just not quite so quickly what happens to -- after becomes -- that mixes with that. The Fiat a body and that it -- stops working eventually. It it is that they isn't that the best thing be used in order to."

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