Obama- Health

" Is is is saying we we got 30% fat gimme a break in these -- nonsensical claims of twenty to 30% waste in the system nonsense. Complete -- dribble one of the things that President Obama does very effectively. Is he he understands that we have -- disengaged electorate. And for people who aren't paying a lot of attention. Any perception you create for the becomes a reality even if you during the opposite thing policy -- behind the scenes he capitalizes on this on a regular basis for example he campaigned as a guy was gonna end the war in Iraq he has no intention of ending the war in Iraq has made that. Explicitly clear. Yet if you ask the average American. He's the guy is gonna -- or I don't doesn't matter if it's gonna take a little longer than he said I know in his heart he wants us out Boston's total lie is allowed to stand no no hit to the credibility of he's still the same thing on health -- Julius."

" Here's the problem though there is a hit to the credibility and a different way it's in direct and is separate and perhaps it will never be directed Barack Obama. But it's in direct to all of -- it elevates the level of cynicism because in the -- people say. Isn't he the guy who said my premium would go down one you premiums not gonna go down. Too isn't he the guy who said acts and something else happen isn't he the guy who said. And so people become very very well I will appoint you to the calculus is dangerous to our health -- up to ten -- civic health. As a nation I mean I know you and parks -- lots of people mocked me because I sent to sometimes -- too serious and this stuff is very dangerous what we're doing to -- selves as a nation we get become. You know enamored of American freak idle and not paying attention to this."

" Now they go easy now. American -- support I realize it's a national treasure calculation is may I think ultimately you're right in the long term what Barack Obama did was take the national desire. For some credibility in our political system and some confidence -- Anyone out there and said look I will tell you the truth and I will change the way Washington does business he keeps promoting that -- While doing the opposite -- priority -- so eventually. Debt that's the ultimate betrayal you're promising yourself you're going to beat it that your promising us that you're going to be the one is different and then your more of the same. The messiah proves to be nothing more than a real you know run of the mill politician you know panicked trim a little bit he would trim a little bit blah blah blah. And then people say or are we kind of trust the best of the best but here's the calculation the democratic strategist are making in this what they do. Bill is quoted -- historian Michael bill Carrick a democratic strategist from California. Said he doesn't think Obama's 2500 dollar a year savings promises of political liability says most Americans. Don't expect literally. A 2500 dollar sentiment. Still say to themselves while he's trying to do the right thing and reduce costs he's focused on what it means to the average family I don't think they're gonna sit around with a calculator. -- this is what this is people have been doing thus far."

" And that in this is cynicism in -- in capital letters this is cynicism in spades this bill Carrick democratic strategist the fact of the matter is Lisa went business the reporter for the globe who did this story. Went out of found people regular ordinary people not just Republican senators who were going to make a comment. But professors -- health policy and ordinary people just in the grocery store saying hey I remember the promise yeah gee I am not expecting that this is some some slowing down of the rate of growth can in fifteen years out of Iraq that's not what you said yeah you looked in the camera you look them straight in the -- is that you'd be transparent you'd be different. Yet nothing more than a political story tell and that's what it is and here's what it appears what people should reward the candidate on the office holder who says guess what folks he get better healthcare than ever dreamed -- you mothers and fathers would die Indy grand folks would die to have what you have stopped -- about a 25 dollar -- deductible stop whining and and grow up I -- us the best that technology want the best of medicine you want the best of everything and you want to for the -- that is --"

" Here's the deception has set up in the Lisa Wang ness of wings and a story in the in the globe today. -- Barack Obama said many times during the campaign we estimate we can cut the average family's premium by about 2500. Dollars per year. Now that he's in the White House he still using the 2500 dollar number. But there's no per year connected with it anymore but comments are going to be over -- every year over year top -- growth that we've -- around here us secure this is such hogwash. When you look at."

" By the way -- it's not just -- that how about this but do you remember how they kill John McCain in debate in units because he was going to. -- asked not having health benefit taxed as ordinary income but that he was gonna give like a five to 7000 dollar tax credit to work Americans so that they could. Pay for their own health -- don't have more skin in the game you know I always start it was a good proposal how about this so the Senate Democrats now and and are acknowledging. This healthcare initiative their target but will cost -- more not less more -- not last. They'll be high attacks is involved in less than and that's what this is the ultimate in in cynicism. Dan Uggla talking about taxing a portion of employee health benefits of those individuals with the biggest salaries and most generous and McCain plan is is I don't believe."

" 6172666. Seats -- Given that the president has lied thus far about what the effective his social and by the way how do you save money. By taking everybody and putting them on universal health care how does that save money it's a ludicrous proposition the only."

" saves money of senate before the government then says okay with a pay yeah guess what they go win it's not a negotiation anymore they have the loaded gun right -- ahead and they said the doctor. The hospital the nearest and everybody else we're gonna pay a 68 cents on the dollar the stated that if the years and Medicaid and made some efforts by catch up it is hard for doesn't want to guess of the medical union can't do that if everybody's on the same -- You can do with Medicare. Because Medicare is a fraction of the population. And then the rest of us -- up hey -- shortfall that the government's paying an anecdote with everybody on and not what they do they just put it it rallies at -- like Amtrak it completely ruins the quality of health -- if you if you go to Mass. General let's say going to get thirty. It's seventy cents on the -- and the doctor who's doing the surgery -- what are you kidding me you are going to get less in terms of quality and output and all the things Dodgers grass to embrace."

" Doctors running to the ATM machine to pay their regular during the middle surgery would become a lot more common I suspect 6172666868. But what Bob is in Waltham -- NW RQ good morning Bob."

" Com of the health care thing is rather interest in obviously we have high quality health care in this country. They also seem that we pay more support then there are other countries. I don't know the right answer is but what I do know is that people seem to be getting. Less and paying higher premium. So. I mean and then then increase say well we -- what people want going to cost more money people who are -- on health insurance now. They have outgrown the emergency room and and and what is not prospect cost more money since -- you don't have to put everybody on preventative health."

" Go -- a -- you've just made so many leaps of of logic. It's astounding and scary and that's what this whole thing is based on. Is -- have there'd -- no in between if there is a problem with -- rooms being the fallback for people who don't have insurance and emergency rooms are very expensive inefficient places for them to go."

" Richard yeah isn't it isn't okay let's agree yeah there -- no solution in between here and in socialized medicine -- I don't know I haven't -- providing an alternative to urgency roms. Such as a doctor Linux back. I don't nurse practitioner and a clinical testing although I think I'll go a step beyond -- I don't support corporate -- up to him permanently right don't have imitate you have to go ahead of Hillary Libor rate in -- advice let's talk logically don't have -- talking logically and -- pastor -- make your point."

" There's certain audio setup is everybody going to have to pay hundreds of 150 calls or -- their walk concede that brought."

" No not going to do that to people who are very poor that's not real."

" Well question isn't real but -- they -- the -- this -- put pressure on businesses. As they announced that they've opened the premiums go up so we're driving it --"

" Bob Bob Bob Bob your race -- those are legitimate the problems -- is you don't go from those problems they'll let me give you an analogy. Did you know there are X percentage of Americans who go hungry every day therefore. We need to bring everybody to the rich girl for launch. That's what the equivalent of what this argument has reduced to. Because of in emergencies emergency -- of Bob majority in this that I'd go one step further than Todd sand."

" Let's find -- health clinic because to be established clinics everywhere in the country to address these 46 million and that you would probably not necessarily feasible I'll take a step further. How about everybody has some type of basic insurance that involves that preventative stuff. You've talked and he. You cannot go to the provider community. The hospitals and doctors and say hey this is it becomes expensive we get forty more than forty million more people. We're providing coverage fought and EU folks have to pick up. The difference what we all have to do top to bottom including the political people and us stop complaining about -- Diem cost of it it's the most important thing in yellow I like hey hey -- apartment go to the movie with yes."

" Well I hang on to the health care system has been severely mismanaged thus far by the government there are all kinds of laws that define the way Kerry is given in the way it's paid for and those have made it worse. Therefore. There rather than saying let's turn the whole ball -- over the people screwed it up. Let's pull it back and say how about making some rational changes here so you don't have to instantly build health clinics all over the country we do was just laws so it's more realistic for nurse practitioners set up a storefront and be able to do business -- change liability laws the Sears save the CVS -- CBS analyst of the alpha model absolutely. And you need to embrace the ways to save money. On us one more. -- I want you on there was even -- New Hampshire and WRKO."

" Now I'm so sick of people like Federer and you support the you know you'd think that Greg banks and white bread six who are not ready negative aspects -- Are worried."

" In a minute -- a -- street so you couldn't vote again Steve I had John McCain on this show more than any radio station in all of England. Many of business. You voted for Barack running a business I guess -- Obama -- there's no one's business Gary you're public figure we'd like transparency right to vote is a private matter I saw -- and right as you do a supposedly in union elections you know that you and not at our house does not --"

" One other thing about health care to. How many illegal aliens -- refute healthcare in this country how many poor people worried -- all about that bill is go to emergency world. You are treated. --"

" And studio but Todd and I agree that's a no wonder still why policy now that's a good that's a wonderful point seasoning as a silly policy. It's not it's still wears its course it's a Democrat Paul. All right Steve by the way if he had been paying attention when -- one of the most sensible Democrats and a -- yeah but promised tax write -- Ohio you know you're all -- all the -- for -- go -- Asian."