" East but I think -- region of the world which is nothing but a useless desert. Except for the fact that it has oil on the door so the only reason we care about enough to fight wars there is because they have oil. Right Americans are dying for oil. I don't say that the with contempt yeah I said as a statement of reality -- it's a broader mission and that dog we the existence than the what protection and continued existence of Israel is I think in a crucial. For being in a tragic and moral interest the united -- aware enough fighting wars over -- they're but they're fighting has our proxy but our concerns in the Middle East -- on the fact that they have oil deposits and oil reserves William -- terms of the wars we're fighting currently. I don't see any compelling need to be there other than the fact that Iraq has is the second largest reserves of oil on the planet. Right that's why were in Iraq yes -- but we blow while I'll put them in the top do you I think don't know whether that you thank you there was no oil in Iraq that we -- minded. Saddam Hussein being -- being -- tropic wished the would have had some great -- absolutely because of what he had attempted to do in Kuwait -- ago. And because of the threats that he would we care about Kuwait. In 1991. If there was not an oil region have probably noticed much we would've gone -- that's how much less we will of care now there is that whole terrorism thing that the terrorists wouldn't even have the platform for doing what they're doing -- and that that the money the content on them mound of sand and yeah pound sand and do wherever they -- so. You know it I'm oversimplifying but the reality is oil is a compelling reason why -- in the Middle East and as a result our kids are going over they're getting injured and maimed and murdered. Two -- to some except for oil may not be a 100% maybe it's 50%. Cut that creates for us a compelling reason to treat that prehistoric it's okay with a great deal values so energy into the primaries and energy innovation is it is it should be job one okay and it's unfortunate that they've made climate change the argument about this because. That's a dubious argument. That deflects the critical importance of protecting our nation making ourselves safer but -- by cutting down on the -- American consumers who are paying four dollars a gallon for gasoline -- Simon who -- now paying about two dollars and twenty cents a gallon and it's -- like thirty cents got a couple considerably if -- gonna continue to grow up don't you think the American consumers are moving in this direction already almost as a stampede. And and I seen a stampede IC suvs every hour. -- that's because of decisions that made 345 I suspect that decision -- say you know when the price went back down the word once the suvs were selling it probably -- the numbers that -- but to say that words there are a -- mentally I don't think where their -- I think we'd be back on the commerce -- right off the -- if we could be assured that the price of -- in hours I don't think I don't think people -- their heads the connection I just made between -- consuming oil and are the soldiers -- And we need to understand that connection and the government needs sentence say this a compelling need sure we can't be sending guys off to die and then treating the thing they're dying for recklessly which is what we do."
" In this country but it was an -- you know -- announced that they were closing that they're close -- not going to be making Amazon and -- and battery isn't that already -- marketplace response and reaction to the reality -- it may -- it's one niche company that only makes big vehicles the only -- the only reason -- you on this is because it seems to be -- contradiction to the -- Feinberg philosophy and principles of limited government minimal intrusion minimal regulation in the marketplace and American consumers. A capable of making have rational intelligent decisions that coherent people."
" I were running way behind in the information is out there in the government needs to make the argument and -- to push things a little bit I don't think going to 35 miles per gallon over the next seven years or six years. On fuel efficiency for fleet is really high standard at all you don't and no I think it'll spur things that first of all Obama's gonna put the American car companies out of business and so we don't have to worry about those jobs they're gone anyway. So all we're talking about him I."
" Thought he in the union. People nobody likes to sleep with politically. Our and I'm not going to let them fail that was your argument about -- ago."
" I I never said there weren't going to let them fail I said he was putting the union in charge of the car companies Cuba that's that's why am saying they're going to fail in what we're so the unions and the government are now going to be running the car company's failure guarantee you're. Which we have a warranty you tell us we have a warrant if you want to get rich. A goal short -- hot hot spot on GM and Chrysler. So anyway the question is this the Barack Obama is proposing tougher cafe standards how editorial about this -- York upset anytime you hate to cafe standards."
" Almost as much as Canadian decent yes or no. The Canada -- drive me crazy so that's my pet -- for the day top -- estimate probably a hook -- focus on the candidate my part of the question of the cafe standards I I suspect that a lot of this allowed that many times these are numbers that -- just kind of hold out of -- AM. For political purposes Schwarzenegger wants to make a statement the governor before him some legislator -- angling for a statewide office in California there are trying to divine for radio a spotlight on a political stage so -- come up -- numbers. That are not grounded in any scientific. Reality all realm it's -- isn't science real cut we'll cut emissions by 50% by the at 2030 somebody wants to come along and trump that we'll cut emissions by 60% by the it's one and twenty it becomes a -- game and and and nothing is real about it except for the impact it has on jobs and industry. I'm not saying they should be -- I."
" Greatest thing I heard except that we've had cafe standards for a long time yes we we have a mark we've gotten used to it hasn't increased in years while new technologies have come along to new abilities to make more fuel efficient cars have been creating get the standards haven't gone up. And again these are fleet standards are not saying all cars have to meet this regulation. It's saying that for each manufacturer at the average of what you sell passed it will will be in six years we'll have to meet 35 point five miles per gallon -- whatever it is now Tony. Six or wherever to have."
" but it -- in the end they trying to force a consumer to make a particular decision if it's the average of what you sell. -- the average of what you sell. Then -- result is going to be dictated by consumer response what -- Tom walked -- to -- two you -- have to buy their automobiles over the next couple years. And we happened to by you know suvs with lower mileage than some of the other. Models why should the company be punished for our."
" And -- our into the don't know -- medicines company won't be -- what they'll do is they'll raise the prices then of the cars that are killing more of our soldiers this is how we have to connect the dots are okay every time you buy an SUV you're killing Americans know and maiming Americans who are risking their lives on your behalf so then the question becomes -- how much -- premium -- pay to kill American soldiers."
" So this is for use this is about our military an American soldiers fighting and dying. As opposed to trying to spur some type of scientific innovation. All that he will do that as a way to save American lives that we have to connect the dots we have to understand the wild had wasting I had a loyal scientific innovation. Occurred I think it has hurt you do sure I think we can do this easily. You I don't think this standards tough 10 while Biden that'll -- interest and love to hear from some automotive some knowledgeable automotive people. And stuff how easy it is to get to a forty miles an hour bullet I ended I had -- mile per."
" I amid beside his forehead and I have a Ford Taurus what do you call I I would guess it's -- midsize sedan I get. Twenty miles per gallon on that that's a fairly big car now you tell me we can't. Haven't improve and that's like seven year old technology I mean it's a two year old car but I think they designed years and years ago. The I think we into and so. Yeah let's take hybrids electric cars comin' down the -- wallets stuffed shirt -- this is that they may have to adjusted if you're right they might have to pull back a couple miles -- say okay unrealistic -- we've -- the standards because the car companies are going to make it. But as we have to understand that there's cause and effect with with what we do as a nation and in terms of our consumption of oil to -- a just idea I."
" I think you're glib about the science I thank you very glib about the science how we did that I think if this was easily obtained it would have already happened because there's a huge market not that far. I don't accept their I think the market has been for big cars people haven't cared about -- how many miles per gallon which put this to our audience 6172666860."
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" Just wanted to see who's best -- Cardinals face -- the curious so -- every in this story that with would discuss with the audience and it's so Washington Post story. That you are now on the racquet. In favor of drug regulation from the -- Barbour administration that would be an increased cost of an average guy by. 1000. 300 dollars you rant and rave about seven cents a gallon tax. On gasoline. Which would audit would make a much much more direct link. The issue that you've expressed concern about our dependence on Middle East oil -- military presence -- soldiers getting shot and killed and everything else. Thirteen hundred box boom right out of the box that every single person is listening to this goes out buys a path that's the costs that will be added because of these regulations. That's pretty horrifying hasn't. Well it should be on notice I mean but it's necessarily get all apoplectic about a couple of cents an -- and gasoline tax and then just be his. It can not only just -- acceptance of this. You're enthusiastic. Support of."
" This time I am I -- at higher cafe standards for years he has and the -- it in it would have been a lot cheaper we've been doing gradually through the years away we should remember we you know as with so many things. We didn't do all we showed up and now we gotta make up for lost time we need to get off for foreign oil desperately. So there should be."
" But but let's speak clearly where he went -- position brings us to -- position brings us to. The government the thing that you -- you say is this big I don't just has government I had to test the big using -- the big using I would love -- minister should ask art. Capable government -- and it but it's going to step in and it's going to impose its view. On you and everybody else as to what we can and should and must."
" I think this a minor -- I don't think it's a major I we -- and by the way the Obama administration should be out their pursuing domestic oil and doing all -- everything we can possibly do nuclear energy publicly whatever we finally Carlos foreign fuel but -- got foods raising the cafe standards this is incremental in my mind thinks that 617006. Series -- in 6860. Is and why we're gonna. I took 35 miles per gallon after all these decades of built in fuel efficiency cars come on in what are the implications of that you're gonna have Y can start -- just die in the Middle -- are you gonna have lighter more expensive automobiles lighter lighter automobiles that's that I liked you -- like lighter cars. Well I I I do his -- it doesn't put my family of someone else's family at risk we get through it over time we'll get rid of all the bigger ones he drinks and everybody -- everybody of the -- they are gonna plan -- like crap that we used to dude a yeah exactly Jeff in -- good morning are WRKO."
" So you don't believe in any government regulation of business and that's why you saw don't know I mean this sounds like very it to -- minor tweaking of the -- fuel efficiency."
" Winking it's gonna but it might tweak this minor -- that might actually best meanwhile we got a crappy government I would get rid of the waste in government to free up some -- and put that was guerrilla force that SI."
" Those things are my agenda to I just think this is a reasonable thing to do with the same time at thirteen hundred bucks -- copy this is -- this is now reasonable because it fits in well Hillary it's over six years thirteen under LC talking about 15% increase per year. Over the the costs of a car but you're also talking about something that could be mitigated by these other things it just talking about. If you if you have more far oil available. If you do things to get us. Off of that the tip of the the Middle East that's what the -- is so we can do that very quickly -- nuclear energy for example and input on a whole package together. So this is one piece of it we need. To drive more fuel efficient cars so we don't -- soldiers dying in the Middle East that seems like a reasonable investments or make them by the way the costs of the wars that we fight to -- oil. Will it would make it back multiple business investment in Africa I reckon I have triggered north Arkansas --"
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" While -- already and in crisis so I don't know all you -- to help out that's CRV -- town. A 6172666860. Changes tough thing this is change we need to make should've been making for years I mean we've known about this requirement since the 1970s that we had to get -- for foreign oil and since then all we've done. Is increased our dependency on foreign oil well."
" But what made act has much room 'cause have become much much fuel efficient hotly under the product early cafe standards. Probably under the recognition that do the auto makers particularly Toyota and Honda recognized the American consumer was not going for the big. Cadillac gasoline -- constantly that's."
" Toyota and Honda broke into the marketplace forty years ago but since then they've learned what Americans want and they make big gas guzzling cars to. So this excellent let's -- I want it I want -- to say the --"
" That you are comfortable with the idea. Of government the United States government. Dictating consumer choice and consumer decisions. That they are going to insert themselves into the relationship that is hit a four existed between a citizen. And a business that they've always."
" And in the relationship that's always been a regulated industry -- we have intermittent windshield -- why do we half five mile an hour crash -- those are regulations safety glass and -- show that was -- government regulators intervening between the relationship. That exists for between us on the cart."
" Companies are -- but that was not going to be the difference between buying an eight cylinder can our force Olympic ideal you are now for all intents and purposes saying that. The American consumers are going to be playing in a little box of consumer choice cents for the used to be almost --"
" Which we've been doing for years I don't know this boxes that is not there are there right now if you go to buy a small car -- a Toyota Corolla notorious making no money on -- car may be losing money okay in order to get it out the door because that government judges cafe standards by the average. Of the vehicles sold by their car -- so for every little car they get out the door that means they get to sell more suvs have -- it that's Karl we're doing this week in the -- a little bit and and you think that do you think that's rational. That a company might actually you're rational to sit there -- not be increasing every year these cafe standards. Why wouldn't you allow science in the marketplace to do that science gets prodded by the marketplace so you create more demand this."
" Well listen sir do you than actually president Barack Obama congressman Ed Markey. Senator Chris Dodd and everybody else down there has any grasp of the science whatsoever and it's so let's not a scientific issue it's an issue Charles -- we've been lagging. And the -- we've got to push apart absolutely scientific you might get Dorchester."
" Your WRQ good morning. Exactly my cup -- that's my feeling as well -- and Weymouth pay there. -- good morning."
" the fact of the matter is we don't have that depend Alfaro. We have more upbeat east know what's coast for -- next 200 years. Well that's a -- votes I'd get."
" Well it's not frivolous because working very -- importing huge amounts so I would favor everything we can do to stop having our soldiers killed and maimed overseas. Just. I want it. I know I want to do that -- I'm who got a problem we have radicals in office do you offer Barack Obama. Are you hit Aaron that's good to hear -- there is that Franken Dorchester your WRKO hi frank. Who has a record one exempt."
" I think or -- combination of problems they are -- the more importantly. Deal all and -- government do what's right in order for our Eric. Frankly you know the argument that -- would coal oil. Well. I I don't totally agree with that because remember up. If you take Kuwaiti oil issue which shall I put that in a spiritual development which a lot they're so pro -- either collect ideas. Legitimately Beijing -- We have to have. At some people say we are got off but -- got -- oil. It -- out to all probably a combination of methods on could take a look at the Brazilian model into should take a look at what to try to -- for Arabs. Eric I think they're -- increased use electric -- France. As well abuse of ethanol vehicles. As they to a result perhaps we could do that and we wouldn't apple."
" Now on to something New -- one on here and hear from frank is this the nuclear model in France in by the way everybody agrees the Brazilian model. Paula I love those presumably -- small -- path we're going Brazilian Cox."