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Leno banned in Boston?
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Leno banned in Boston?

Published:Fri, 3 Apr 2009
Description:Howie talks with TV guru Max Robins about homeboy Jay Leno's 10 o'clock show being banned in Boston.
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" Visit -- stores dot com and call a number six Horry now at 6179311680. Okay. Now is -- this was -- I was very surprised by this when I wrote last night on on the Internet. The that channel seven affiliate here in Boston. Which is owned by sunbeam broadcasting a guy named advance and he also owns the NBC affiliate in Miami which is also channel seven. He announced yesterday -- his station announced yesterday that they are not going to -- The new Jay Leno prime time series which begins next fall. Theaters it's gonna run at 10 o'clock five nights a week and he just said that it's just not -- it's like a war it's going to sink their 11 o'clock newscast. So they are going to war I have -- have their 11 o'clock they're going to have a 10 o'clock newscast religious Margaret -- In NBC angrily reacted and said they will strip. Channel seven of the NBC affiliation. And I did not know this until. NBC announced it but they owned channel sixty which is telemundo of the Spanish station. And so they you know they won't they say there will move all the NBC programming and make channel sixty via NBC. Affiliate in the city. For the market F five if -- if -- channel seven goes through with its threat. Now I thought this is a good topic to bring max robins in -- just because see he has said from the beginning. That that this was not going to -- this. And now I think this is begin this is proving itself proving that max was correct here. Max of courses we have veteran now broadcast covering a journalist he is now the executive vice president of the paley center for media in New York. And max thanks for being whether -- on a Friday afternoon."

" Well Howard great way to end the week this is pretty amazing I mean this is. And any even a bigger insult to 10 you don't -- to Boston --"

" Yes he is but let me let you know -- money's money talks."

" A lot more than. I yes I married a local boys -- yeah cited."

" I guess just. -- I mean what's going to happen I mean he's number one I mean obviously channel seven gave this a lot of thought before they did it. I mean they must think this is going to be an unmitigated disaster."

" This is a bold move -- and his you know we discussed when this whole Leno thing was announced that it. Big big part of pure you know European network affiliate in a market like Boston. Maybe 5060%. Of your revenues. Comes from your newscast. Yeah and and then there -- 11 o'clock news is still really important. -- and and and that they just saw themselves. Taken a major major at this certain you know no shots no more."

" Won't you it'll -- thing is they already have a 10 o'clock news and it's on channel 56 which they bought. The end they goes up against the Fox News casts which I think you could. Say is. If it's right up there with channel four's the best newscast in the city right now in channel seven has been slipping all of it very badly the only channel seven looks like the news of yesteryear. They. They're they're just all fluffy stories also include coming off the you you know your the feeds from somewhere else that there's not much local moves they're they're getting crushed 521 in the march weeks which just ended at 10 o'clock by. -- five. To one and I. Yeah 20200. Maybe -- have to want channel the channel 25 to fox affiliate has 200000 viewers. The end channel seven on 56 its second station has less than fifty. Wow wow I'm sure most -- you know I don't bid salamander it's. Yeah I understand why they make in the movie battled -- I don't see how they think they're gonna watch with the with the current lineup that they've got of newscasters and anchors I don't think you're gonna make a dent in channel 25."

" Yeah this may be they might have some secret plan but this is. They're basing this is -- seems like Thompson shortcoming -- it's like you want to die by hanging -- by actually you know by firing squad is."

" This never would dean dressed every morning happened if I NBC was still on top know what I mean this is trying to NBC's weakness and we're just like the very putting a -- Jay Leno on five nights a week as a sign of how feeble their lineup this."

" Do you -- to sign -- bad -- it's really it it also shows us. How dramatically. That economic model for broadcast television's. Has changed and it's interesting you know what's."

" Changed drew or fallen apart what I have. All of -- because --"

" I mean I mean that you do -- mean they've used they paid megabucks for example for a show like -- last night you are in its finale show. Yeah true north of seventeen million viewers seventeen. They could do those seven numbers -- Jay Leno and Clark a granite this is the finale of a long running show. He got a lot of people who went through that show were real stars and the people who may -- gotten out of habit and it sure gonna watch the finale but. Nevertheless. Everybody's looking for cheaper programming news is cheaper than producing -- drama like Gary ER CSI. That's why there's."

" rarely ever achieved all the money from their own spots right. They don't have to split the split the spots in -- is load with the network if they run local newscast right here."

" You gotta be seen as you mentioned up top threatening to take away that something station's affiliation. Now they might want that there might be one of them might be like you know what every you dude don't -- Only in the briar patch yeah I -- this may be a classic -- now we have this. This may be they may be taken to three just moved out."

" Well but but you you know -- it's mentioned and I think the variety story that KRO women San Francisco tried this in -- NBC poll thereof affiliation and Carol when. Israel has been -- a are any -- in revenue slump ever since they lost their network affiliation didn't work for them."

" It didn't work for them you know the other thing it could be to maybe they were. They they might come back in the fold the Boston position may come back in the fold on Leno but they might have been thinking hey let's see if we can. Give some other major market affiliates to say you know when I was a no no and then maybe every field changeup that's playoffs."

" There's so timid -- is -- an update on the -- website does saying that channel seven is not backing down there's still -- in this on the newscast that they're planning to start their new 10 o'clock newscast in September."

" While while well it. We'll see how this played out please the other split it up simply because it's just another sign how we of the disk -- The local broadcast television that."

" Does anybody really think so that Jay Leno was going to work. Is there I -- is there anybody saying GIA you know I've done the numbers and I've crunched amendment this this looks like he could be a big success."

" No nobody I know. So I mean it is -- like okay it's hail Mary pass is what this right."

" It well I think we can give MB CNBC. Has said pretty much we would much rather be first and revenue that first degrading. So maybe they think could that's. The ratings points they lose votes for the stations they -- for their musical followed shape that balloons with jay and they're going up against psychodrama Alexia SI have CBS. Maybe they think in the money -- save -- in every to pay for it they -- a couple ratings points in the end they still end up making more money. You know because they don't have to pay as much to put on that leno's show five nights a week."

" And I mean just think -- the that they can do this -- lasting that they're going to the channel seven is going to take on the nights that American Idol or American Idol smile on every night but on most nights I mean they get they get their lead in is going to be American Idol to the telephone news."

" I wish -- crushed demolish it."

" It takes a lot of night -- you know -- eking out a victory to make up for those kind of nights I mean I just don't see how they I don't see how they win here. Other than financial coach -- thing is the what's ironic I guess is that. Is that day the channel seven and are sunbeam and -- NBC hearing each other's throats because they both have the same financial plan which is to forget the ratings and just make money."

" Yeah yeah I think you're right that system and I guess they're crunching numbers and they think this is the way the way to go -- I don't know I mean I think maybe they just finished sucked it up prudent and and and and go on with Leno and then you know after a six month sir the first year where he trails. They. And every -- come maybe come up with something better."

" They were they -- number one furry you know channel seven was number one of eleven for all those years in the over the last year or so they've just they just faded away from him."

" Do you think the fall apart condemn BC's schedule so batters to just clear you know I don't see the news in the Boston market -- It isn't just that their product out."

" I think it's a combination of both I mean we had a Randy price the anchor that they just fired. On but the couple about six weeks ago we had him on the here and he said. He suggest that you could almost watch channel seven and and he -- just watch and said the first two stories will be okay in the middle just beat. It just the news completely falls apart and he's right -- like you don't you take -- that channel four in the CBS affiliate or George or fox that Jill 25 I mean they they run they run good stories doubt they save a couple stories you know for the have been hall in the C even the -- The C hall you know I mean they then all they don't put everything up front and it's just I just don't see how channel seven can compete long term without spend some more ballwind. -- here we can't. It's it. It's like to Drudge report to you know it's I mean it's it's just headlines it's just stuff that you know it's just crazy stuff you know if there's if there's an alligator attacks where it."

" They put broadly put it on I mean that's funny that's funny but."

" What did you know sunbeam dude that owns this station they they were famous for that back like in the early -- down in Miami. It has some being stationed there was say they were taken a bailout tabloid did everybody I mean that was just. The weirder the bizarre the more sensational story. The more they were doing it and then they were the first that real kind of rapid pace. Tabloids found and and I don't know."

" But he has a rapid pace newscast in but the difference is fox channel four sometimes -- real moves yeah that's that's a I alienate yeah it's it's just not -- to -- about what a."

" I year old year old alma mater good person -- station BBC's."

" on the I've never been a channel five person it's just -- I guess you know they they still -- faded away to a little but he hummingbird there."

" They always tell you these outside -- people would do -- always thought they were you know request that the good station."

" While it's while I think probably it's the part of -- talks just to read beyond the whole way I don't think it's just. The total crisis in the business and and and everybody try to do things done achieved -- might be in the short term smart but in the long run. Just not giving the same kind equality and and then audiences and stupid yeah that's true you know it's so -- they get it."

" So that's why the audience trade it away for seven yeah or take a couple of calls from max -- you're 1877469432. To the Senate this thing in Boston is the biggest TV news of the day isn't it nationally."

" Oh yeah this is huge storm."

" Does it there -- just everybody else is gonna meet everybody probably feels the same way Hanson does end they just going to see didn't see how this thing plays out. It has to CIA if he's going to get and he does support I think he's pretty well tied in with the other -- the the the other a GM's and owners around the country so I don't yeah I don't feel when he he test marketed this before he -- it."

" I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised how if you see another city immunized. This is a doorman and nobody's called -- Amax keep your -- and you -- Chicago or Kansas City yourself it's quite. But I wouldn't be surprised if you see a few others pull the same gambit."

" Yeah Jack you're next with how we guard Max Robinson a special Friday afternoon appearance."

" Somali. The reason that I called this an envelope you've seen that some media on the on the information that I wrote about this but. Channel seven it will have the newscasts -- can't stand channel 56 they're not going to -- from 56. And just keep it on seven so original statement and I can't see how -- Okay go yeah I guess I can't blowing your remote belt aren't true I I can't stand camped here can't stand her voice she's not pretty she felt like. Yes you sound like good mails going -- chalk -- Decades yet -- instead -- nearly got promo bit off."

" Could there are there rumors that the other two -- they now have two female anchors -- in that there where there are rumors on confirmed that the two female anchors don't get along."

" Are they are via army -- and put it this way but you know what I'm really talked about this is -- asks."

" Good thanks for the call Jack 18774694322. -- you're next with that's the thing I mean did she didn't channel seven is not going into the so from a position of strength but. And be saying go by the way is its."

" Oh this is I mean I'm Kelly -- This is like you know everybody's got their guns."

" Each other right. 18774694322. Al your next with Howie -- and max robins go ahead Al."

" How we I think the owner of channel seven is -- a good move I think east. I believe that Jay Leno is jumped the shark and I just -- may access any hard figures this you know which way Jay's audience is trending. Nine DOJ and states strong I mean it's the the black there's a lot more competition in the time period."

" And it and end there had an impact on the show. 00. You know late night in a way that audiences expand its late nights. Been a lot more aggressively program that dates from when it you know one late night show could dominate the marketplace. So. I mean."

" Did you genuinely want to do lists her as she just the issue just a victim of these are contractual obligations."

" K has serious. It's DOJ has -- body. And he's not -- collapse. -- could -- stood Jacob groin yeah I'm sure. ABC. They cut himself a ruler fox. And cut himself a deal worth everybody ever every dollar what he's doing now. You know he's been -- COM EM BC a long time it's -- this -- is home. We don't nobody could -- have to pass an -- Jay Leno and I think you want to give it a shot he's a competitive guy. And then I think he he this is these one of these guys Howard who who really lives and works."

" Yeah I was just I was just thinking about that I mean this really is kind of a slap in his face I don't you don't. I don't know him personally but I wouldn't be surprised as to why you're that he had -- he would personally of call but -- today and say what are you go and here."

" That would not be able to that would not be out of character I mean one thing about Leno is he. This guy is a real -- has always had a serious work ethic he's been a guy who has. Always mean you weigh in since he's been on top who who would you don't cut the Promos for the local station in ever market. Which show up fifty affiliates meetings -- plan and the general managers you know enough. And he's always -- has always worked it he is. He is truly. It gives the -- that the business of show business if you will. At a rally this is a guy. -- north of a hundred million EC. So who still when he's not doing the -- on the weekend he's -- have to -- stand up in Branson are outrageous. Activity needs the money."

" Yeah but he's amiss we're Johnny Carson did too though you know is not a part of it -- as well."

" I think with badly you know -- Carson Carson especially in the later years. Yeah so -- you know what I think by the time we got to whatever was white for five or six or something. -- he had slowed down and he he enjoyed you know he had a boat he really liked it was a poker player he's. You know traveled through that -- yeah this player I mean -- I mean little love cars but he he. He likes doing stand -- he likes an audience that's what the guide it's."

" Thanks for the call Al -- your next with Howie Carr and max robins go ahead --"

" So we. For the most part I'm the guy who can't spin reality television. Okay Beckham does 8 o'clock and that pretty much takes care of everything until 9 o'clock. -- even sometimes up to ten I think wimpy she's good to -- They got those hour long show from ten to eleven you do -- Idiot woman the."

" Exceeded their mandate they've lived it to a great extent. The reason. You see like on TNT. Have facts and and USA inside. All these original scripted dramas. --"

" I think it's -- boy are they ever low."

" The best -- but what I could do we can't change like a trial from the fall season. Can you describe is going to negotiate this thing that everybody's going to want to jump ship like tell seven. To negotiate Jacque we're gonna put Genentech our father MSNBC. Because three runs right now this is -- run Olbermann."

" MSNBC the -- they'll -- don't bring in another all right Ed Schultz or racial matter how c'mon."

" I didn't go to permanent good lyrics and get to a PW affiliate -- really don't get your take sawdust and maybe even if it's like you know located. Nobody's going to be able -- well fighting until we need to you know I mean didn't."

" Well I hated hated it should mean it."

" Thanks for the call -- Chris your next with how we guard max robins go ahead digress."

" I I don't -- got. Awkward question -- what is the possibility they also at W network a -- the CW channel seven. And also street Lou are quite shows with ER. What with the network's decision up all the show or what they -- producers' decision to pull ER but you're much. They would do with the networks and."

" Too expensive right -- to win money. Yeah that's what though that's what it's all about every level of."

" Cost benefit analysis wasn't very and that's why how he did you know on the the broadcast networks you -- there is still with so many -- reality show. Contest shows what that. That's what it's about I mean and then they."

" Chewing gum through the eyes is for Nelnet and."

" So that's that's the well okay how I'm like a really good -- I think the only network drama and I've you know I've touted this show -- The last few weeks is do is Friday night lights I think that's the only good the only broadcast network drama. I -- I want trigger early in. -- and I cable."

" I gotta -- you right there with thanks for coming on they on a Friday for this breaking news. It is -- how we just really whetted my appetite for you know cocktail hour and I. Sale of the Jumbo shrimp for -- I -- our -- bag -- slugger thanks -- max Robbins from the pew center for media."

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