Card Checking Unions

" Where is our speaker Finneran was est au -- were reasonable it's not. Think all not apologizing like everyone else I've loved and accepted the deal pathologically incapable of accepting responsibility. If anything can your goals and 61726660. Or sixty years column veteran Adam Bartolo Feinberg you other devalued prime minister at a devalued. Veterans for a moment."

" Other deep ideas -- to -- that it's the greatest sound that can be played at every. Gathering of Americans and American citizens right after the nationally after that that's out. Is that somewhere we have to play his whole speech we get are we really should we really show which ended up this week we can do it because you know why that's timely and relevant. Sounds like he's talking about president exactly it's exactly what's going on Donald Washington. And if so what's applicable and in -- if the shoe fits you wear Eric Wright presents going to serve place this week chairs oversees. Ha -- how -- but you think guy who's just whining on I think there's still swarmed over there about the Barack phenomenon they are but they're also -- upset with them they don't like our remedies it's gonna be uninteresting week failed to help president you know. -- that that the DGH whining is a top twenty industrialized nations in the world. What percentage of -- world's GDP are they responsible for I would say north of 80% only 855%. Is good yes they have 85% of the world's productivity -- twenty. Nations how bizarre is that and the union movement in this country does their best to bring that down thanks yeah. Well look what's going on right now in knows this so hole card check thing in the first period in the top twenty countries I would say most most of those countries. Have long recognized collective bargaining -- as a legitimate problem the the work environment surrender history shows the power of capitalism to fight the forces of -- yeah well and you know this this got checked in which -- talking about on Friday is it's just a fascinating idea and the implications on this well. To be content you know what's going to be a huge fight is just beginning to penetrate the American consciousness and we're doing our part -- lead the way on that yes in of the two putts that we talked about -- Friday and I know we have gaps so. I should -- should stop talking which give the guest on but of the two patchy but I won't -- but Iraq you have this. Well as an open ballot there. I don't I don't know how folks that run congress ought to do the Pope what do we introduce him to get."

" So glad I just want to mention is is story along these lines if you want to educate yourself on this check out in the globe today where there's also fight going on to unionize hospitals in Boston. And the hospitals are are resisting in concerned about card check. Because this would play into the whole -- into the joining us now though is Iran I'd love saying that Ryan currently ahead how is -- executive director of the American destruction alliance fighting. Card check in and here to educate us a little bit about why the well you know what the conflict is about Iraq currently now welcome to WRKO atomic -- Mr. what's your organizations take on to a first what are you guys what what is America instructional --"

" We're in association of opened shop contractors that advocates for fear of open competition in the public and private construction markets."

" And why did you love life you're involved in such -- why not just become part of the union scam. Hot hot -- is the money battle but I think if you're pretty the other editorial comment around here under early early on Monday mornings about overall."

" Basically the villages got news for workers in the Tibetans for our economy we start going down with what we slow -- Stripping American workers of their right to a secret ballots in which is an absolute right for free and fair elections I think we we run into some problems."

" And what kind of problems you anticipate it."

" Well you know trapped when you when you take away the rights for secret ballot in you instead ask people to -- a car on the spot. There's always a threat of intimidation coercion ANC you know basically people lose their option to vote their conscious behind by the current."

" He and it it seems to me so antithetical to everything we believe him with -- got to free elections open elections and the private ballot -- let me ask your question. It was without -- Leo with a all the talk about illegal immigration and people. Willing to work. And very difficult sometimes dangerous jobs for a hit it's a mere pittance. How does how do you all members non union opened shop members. Go above providing quality construction. And not. I guess really undermining each other in a race to the bottom."

" Well -- express won't comment -- the race to the bottom of all I think that our members provide quality training. Superior training. So -- workers. Including training for the trade unions safety the end they just provide the best product for the for the best price. And -- so competition."

" So -- though if you want Todd you know running the Accardo now don't Feinberg roofing company and -- training you work is you don't exactly what you just said to the audience. And here comes Tom -- I got in a seventeen illegals were conforming and I know that era of the eleven in the fear gods are gonna pay them to fifty and how are you gonna pay young guys. Whatever the heck you gotta pay them any gotta train them. How how do you compete against me when -- trimming -- as a brick and rules because I think I can make a fast buck and keep movement."

" Well I'm that the difficult circumstance for anybody to compete with British you know under Republican structural laws you have to be pre qualified. And you have to -- very rigorous standards and -- the bid on public jobs."

" So what what confinement do you have by being. Nine union construction company so how does that restrict your ability to get work."

" Well well it if you're talking about the private market. Our ability to get work. Excuse -- a public markets. Comes into play when we start talking about you know only agreements like project labor agreements. That are put in play by public officials. That basically make the jobs you know we can't prevent our members from competing on the projects."

" Yeah the PLA's have always been controversial usually they'll run to be honest about my recollection at least correct -- from -- Our recollection is the event applied relatively. Infrequently and only four of lodge her and supposedly at least more complex projects that -- get Madonna to every every day -- about a project yet I assume that not."

" Well Tom vision no. Well maybe you don't know that the courthouse project and talk right now was under project labor agreement that is. I would say that is not a complex project at all. There was a garage a parking garage up in -- Union Station garage that was not a complex project that was under project labor agreement and now president Barack Obama. Has decided to overturn the bush executive order in encourage. Federal agencies to adopt PL lays on projects of two point five million dollars and more."

" when he five million is this relatively small number relatively small -- yeah that's right young and you know if you know we never we never did add up the state house side use these you know I had I had benchmarks at least in my own mind. But you know 1005200. -- with some complexity I'd be open to the idea Republican total but not -- 225 media well."

" The bigger problem is there's two problems this issue and now it is -- our number one you restrict competition to such a degree that you you increase your cost by as much as 1520%. We see the city of salt river back in 2005 because they adopted appeal late illegally on five school."

" On a school Shia exam and you guys won now."

" We can and we saw prices actually. -- global budget by a 100% in some cases."

" Why would be incentive for public officials. To enter into appealing which is basically saying we -- fallen terribly going to dramatically restrict. Our choice of companies to do this project to those who we know will charge the most why would they do that."

" Well -- listen its its although I think money and political power in payback and if we you know we bring it full circle back to the card check issue. -- the unions has spent 450 million dollars last lap election cycle electing Democrat and President Obama. And they want to return and their investment. And you know bite -- giving them. Monopoly -- projects. You create a system where there are able to get more members going to more members working. It had to bring in more revenue for the -- and it's really percent of the summer political power which is when they won a big."

" So you're saying that the reason public officials elected to serve in the best interest of the people voted for them. That the reason that they make these cozy deals with the unions is in order to create more union members who then go work for them and offer them."

" That's correct I think there's no other rational reason looked. In Massachusetts. Open -- nonunion construction workers make up 80% of the industry and is it not those are not numbers those numbers right from the Department of Labor. I don't know how anybody could in the in the air you rationally say it's okay to discriminate against. Such a large section of people. And into what benefit. So that you don't get any strikes or -- harassment. What you do what you -- out good qualified capable hardworking men and women from a job which by the way you're paying taxes --"

" describe the scene Faris with regard to a bigger job with some complexity and number of trades for example. And it's and I'll call it it's a mixed site so there is some union not companies who might be -- on the in other capturing an electrical and there are some nonunion who don't know this. EV ER experience what has that been like at the work site."

" Harm our guys work side by side with union members. If we we are not and it's the union organization. We -- happy to work with some. You know and and and it's a very productive work."

" You're just looking for fair shot that brought you just -- that report. -- currently on I was with a c.'s executive director of the American structure alliance and alliance of nonunion affiliated construction companies were talking -- card check my take some calls on the -- around 6172666860. Market New Hampshire and W are you good morning GO."

" Yeah I do what I do -- morning. I don't want an elephant I guess what electoral column New Hampshire I'm awful what they're Republican but you know what I support -- union and there's only one reason or. That we can't trot understate important that we can't trust your administration. To -- evenly when you somebody to go when they're keep them and Jack."

" Understood what ways do they keep them in in check for you. What are the benefits you derive."

" Well any sort of policy and it sort of negotiations and the collective bargaining collective bargaining this video we want something to interpret something out of the -- think that -- everywhere whether medical benefits or anything out and gave the cost of living increase. It would still be in their paper but they're always given money something -- pundits -- saying no sorry. You guys -- like that because of the union negotiated it's not fair."

" Mark do you think that card check idea that that there's basically an open ended. A process of collecting people into the union. Oh we lost -- okay six point 72666. Seats exe I was going to ask -- it did do what he thinks about card check because I can respect the idea of wanting to be represented true. But I can't respect the idea of fixing things basically I I think card check is. Is designed to fix things so that the unions have way too much powering getting organized and I and I think on any harassment can can respect the idea of belonging to a union wanted to joining union what bothers me a great deal was the absence of secret ballot yes -- that should be done. Without any time the bowling without any type of intimidation that remark is back -- connected sorry mark."

" So so that -- for that question about card check what we just want bank."

" I'm also critical of the union what they're not I doubt -- what the FBI you appearing to secure. The reorganization. The bigger it -- and they ignored employees."

" We are running unionized employee we vote we stop Leo. We asked the president what happened there's a coordinate in the union itself wondered in Washington DC -- what are didn't expect individually. Over. I'd be important question and go -- political attack."

" So the organization that's supposed to be your representative because it's a big national wealth funded organization no longer represents you."

" Absolutely an apology -- try. Just undo what he'll be your support and they do this thank you --"

" right thank you for them Marc any comment on that Iran."

" Yeah well you know mark brings up an interest in point that the FBI you actually got their their employees their offices and directors actually vote by secret ballot. Couple officers directors bylaw changes dues increase yet we're trying to strip the American worker that."

" Right how ironic thing is a secret top out at anything."

" An absolute right quick -- I think what troubles me most of all the troubles a lot of us if you've got represented that you get members of congress. Lighting -- term limits that are paper stripping American workers of this right."

" It it's really a bizarre thing brought in Boston -- WRKO with a run partly on -- from the American structure alliance."

" Hey guys how are -- when I don't small I think shot from our eye on it I have been. Discriminated against by your new starting jobs they have big union and -- Comment muffled up out of the job it's just it's just frustrating as these happen tonight. Like after the visit base lighting guy smiled more important that he bearing that my -- not been eating Japanese double he would delegate muffled the call up."

" But you're waving and how to they muscle you out of a job."

" Eight. We would jail -- and he came at three all our. -- got the big union guy is an acting might be don't always like to bite of a micro aren't there and they do it -- It would make it difficult for -- we get off the job and not the first party are not like -- not operate so that number a lot of deep."

" Ron when that happens steal away and have it and I am puzzled about this do you call the cops Saudi just kind of technology and --"

" A coffee if so they protect -- so it's not our. Car for what do above the record straight there was. Accompanied BAC company wired -- they were doing a job next door. But because it was a high profile area up into effect any gag in and -- no -- broken up a delight thank you for being here in. I first Intifada -- what do you like better that if there are."

" Great thanks for sharing that story it's what everybody assumes goes on although I think there's been a sense that. That things simmer and have improved in the unions aren't engaged in that kind of thuggery anymore are rock hardly out idea experience that."

" You know it without without Irish used it to be to be there it's not always like that though. He's the big problem is that perceived threat that the public officials I think the privilege you wish that we have to go union only because. By god we don't want. The you know hundreds of guys walking -- unemployed with picket signs saying you know we're being -- what you. Let's just give them all the work and you know because not you guys. Don't strike we don't have inflatable -- we don't cost -- destruction that. That's not ideal we work that's what we want to do."

" the thuggery and that's the only word I can think of that applies to what the college described on network center where he felt muscled. In his in his employees felt intimidated the thuggery is absolutely should be unacceptable to everybody no matter what -- politics no matter where they aren't the situation. Are you union leaders -- on a regular basis talk about the quality of the work. The timeliness of equality they work and they attribute a lot of that to the apprentice training programs they have to which they say the -- alliance young -- Just does not have that you don't put the time and effort into the training. Of your employees and therefore -- and I are pirate somebody we want somebody who's been well trained and has you know it has kind of come along. To a -- a level of skill which -- quiet."

" Our first of -- I just. The depression training program that the unions have in and the way they measure. The only the only measurable success they have is done by there there own people another -- to -- people be studies of their own. -- programs first of all second of all open shop contractors absolutely trying to please. Employees of the single biggest asset of any company. And India certainly isn't job safety by the way. But I I would say to you and anybody -- argue this point 800 measure. Trading in and in quality indeed let's look at the Big Dig for quality and on time and on budget."

" If that -- and that's a pretty compelling argument right there -- Iraq -- are appreciate your time -- construction alliance easy executive director were talking about card -- What do you think about this movement towards making it easier for unions organized. Does this make a better country. Or one that's less free less open and provides less competition that's really what comes down to Thomas and."

" When you know certainly the that the reduction in competition that Whitaker if in fact. Obama and others just -- project labor agreements on each -- on any and all public projects. It echo what -- a bronze numbers for moment. Iran says 80% of -- construction work has belonged to open shop on non union by definition if you on the public official you want as much competition. In the beating of projects is possibly embody your dollars and gonna go further on behalf attacked terrorist you don't want to exclude 80%. Of the in molasses field unless of course you have some kind of deal or benefit that would occur to you first siding with the twenty per Barack Obama and at the federal level to talk about 825. Billion dollar threshold. That while hey I'm a Democrat talk. Even he going to be shaken by had a -- 6172666868. Top anti 680 WRKO. First two couples."