Compassion for the homeless?

" Responsible this puts the incentives in the right place puts the onus of responsibility on people about word. Statement trying to make sure they live within a set of rules these are all this fancy words for saying it's -- Hot hot hot hot. You want me whats cruel about it you want people to be responsible for their own well -- yes -- cruel idea I -- idea about -- and every Democrat I just don't turn that title in back to the party. You have no right is this is not my proposal this about the Tom -- proposal this is the Deval -- this unquestionably his democratic credentials I think there was confusion with the fax machine sending this over the -- there's something wrong here and a devoted Deval Patrick is is proposing rational. Realistic this is great personal responsibility. Oh absolutely I experiment right pay attention about the -- this is great Todd Feinberg has finally acknowledging on the AM. Listen -- this opening sentence less than two years after vowing to end homelessness. In Massachusetts. The Patrick administration has proposed new regulations. Dedicated knowledge is could force hundreds of homeless families back on the street in -- throw -- out. That should be the headline Patrick says to homeless screw you you will. The guy who has got to end homelessness I think now he's going to end it by redefining it swelled the and it's he'll just say there are homeless there're wondering is there they're temporarily ended. It temporarily between bus stops. -- That's a this is this is just craziness for you to be critical this the revelation these polls behind this is obviously that the that the budget tension they have a revenue problem they have a vote of fiscal and economic problem. And it's this is good this is what I call -- Overdue. Sobriety I'm not accusing anybody of them have been reckless in spending before but this -- time at a place we have to connect clean things up and say what works what makes -- people have to make an effort lament how domino thing they have to make an -- about the hazy -- young thing work that's what about -- that's what I would think that's our liberal slant. Little that this is coming from Deval Patrick himself on -- all of ADR opinion the quit this and no liberal but their muscle media liberals can demonstrate some of fiscal -- there must be like some villain who's in the in in -- in -- set -- office -- whose arm twisting and making things -- our -- so you because -- the bad -- the applicant -- tug of it's to vial and in the -- and I am chagrined we know he's a loving caring person did he go to and a New Bedford and hug the illegals when they Perez hit it quite right he can't continue to return because it's. One of the most bizarre political events I have ever seen in my life and of -- never hugged anyone else. Now he's -- he -- He would give you arts and becomes a photo -- is yeah well that's it's how does not when it gave up photo -- pocket his big photo up of his allies have been in two years young was in the -- hills in New Bedford you know. Now I thought maybe he's going to pick them up and put them over on the boat to send them home but now we just hugged -- He want to goods and -- how much love he has for them I act now I'd get on the opening sentence less than two years after vowing to end homelessness in Massachusetts. Right two years ago were going to give them all homes because everybody deserves one can be durable -- that's what he wanted to sell it slats is not a counter -- this is happening at the very time that the biggest piece of legislation in US history the biggest spending bill levers coming out of Washington true I wouldn't be surprised if if if if in Washington they don't pass some requirement. That says to demolish your gonna take our money you better not throw these homeless people have to make these people go homeless just because there irresponsible discuss it won't work just as they want save money."

" Like Europe to some of their rights and some members of the advocacy community would be a genuinely excited about the prospects of a big chunk of federal money and the -- four. Avoidance of this what I would call our modern sense there's just. This is common. Sense and it's good to see the governor and who -- and is an exact cause now we want to -- this secular skipping over that like it's not such an incredible anomaly what you mean it's not common sense proposal is coming out of -- an illustration right there is a problem with sentence how about this for the novelty to -- to our audience took it. What do you try for the first time perhaps in your professional career to say. Wow I -- EM impressed this is a good thing. In static hung on I'm not naive enough to take it at face value this somethin' goin' on here yeah I you know tell all is not going to Carl sub port video out on the street when the money doesn't keep. Coming in you have to change your behavior -- policies he's changing his policies which will address the behavior. Of people who have been you know it's gonna happen now look I have was as much sympathy is anybody for these folks the head down and out and it's -- god they deserve a helping hand it -- shouldn't -- the government. They deserve a helping hand but it cannot it has to be. Focused and they have to have focus in the alive they have they have responsibility. About work about stated in the I mean it is in virtually impossible to to be evicted from public house virtually impossible so he says it by the way if you've been evicted from public housing -- eligible for shelter. That's common sense scroll -- it's tough."

" run through the jobs so people understand -- the regulations scheduled take effect in April would deny shelter to families -- in the last three years these you to set have been evicted. From or had abandoned public or subsidized housing without good cause walked away from end to those who failed to meet a new thirty hour per week work requirement up. And they have to save 30% of their income -- how do you expect people have nothing. To save 30% of their papers and nothing has not been enough to know that they have nothing there -- of couple hundred bucks a week they need all that money don't feed the family yeah."

" And he wants them to save 30% of -- This is devastating -- a devastating -- if it it it takes effort it's going to take time you don't have to go from zero savings to 30% savings overnight. Obviously these are going to be implemented I believe in a very reasonable fashion. These are all sensible. Restrictions sent."

" Now latest I don't know -- that's not cents a ago it. If a family is making the legal limit whatever that is it was it's like 1500 a month or something like if you make a dollar more than that it. They want to -- out in three months out of the public house. Instead of six months out this to me but the Unita parade this unique you can't just throw people out because say. Momentarily their income rises above some threshold apparently not because and they won't do the job they want except the race and they have three months. No they won't take the race or they'll quit the job -- responsibility so what would you do you need to incentivize good behavior okay. In what would you do you even let them go over the threshold and you require that extra money on saving so they build up an estate to go bankrupt themselves upon I think that's actually part of the regular savings don't count against -- eligibility dates to says they're -- three -- three months instead assessments right now if you hearing Congo's over the threshold yep six months. To get it together move out he wants a cut that to three months three and he wants a law forced families absent from shelters for at least two nights. As well as those who reject an offer housing without good reason -- he -- he wants to eliminate them so if you go away for the weekend to stay with -- say your uncle -- Mitt Romney and he invites you to stay one of his empty houses for the weekend you come back and --"

" Yeah likely that it -- forget about the deer valley -- the bits that let me tell about okay and how about this one. They'll deny benefits to families whose members have outstanding defaults are wet arrest warrants okay guys so. Member of the family is screwed around just because -- an outstanding arrest warrant. This is the guy who was hugging the illegals that -- mad at the feds for arresting them just because they came into the country illegally stole jobs from an American. He -- doesn't want them sent home. But he wants to throw -- lot of public housing if you -- default but just because you haven't shown up yet support expects -- behaviors he expects it be -- to expect these you should be -- again that they're good policies. I just -- we -- it twice I'll just seconds struggling to understand the source -- the sorts you know what it's called. Fiscal sobriety. Forced on by very very tough circumstances you're probably not -- instinct to do this or maybe you're right about certain inclinations -- have a pre dispositions. That being said. This silvers people -- so you're saying we can't we can't continue to spend. And to have programs designed when we were flush -- you know what's Rahm Emanuel statement now. -- let's not let a good crisis passes you know what you can get -- can make some big big changes yes that's what's going on here. These are -- you're suggesting used chain but you're suggest congress I think revolutionary which which I'd never considered nor seen evidence of prior to today Erica that is that liberals are magic bubble is they have -- Entirely wet -- how do you think we did education reform and Massachusetts but he can buy taking them all on a vote chaining them -- To end homelessness in Massachusetts. He's now turned into the cruel. Conservative hateful tomorrow will be the telltale -- what they do in the editorial page that it was a lack of their and and then of course tomorrow -- speak in different to the chamber of commerce tomorrow morning on transportation will be -- to see what he's willing to his early -- and I'm homeless people on the transcript from that house he's getting tough -- he's getting exactly."

" Do you hug of support Deval Patrick in doing this I'm sure that Barack Obama's gonna call -- it looked. If you don't change this policy back the way it's supposed to be free for all where everybody gets all the government -- they want for as long as they want with no standards. Then I'm gonna call off acorn they won't. They will not register penniless illegal aliens of Austria."

" You're -- at all at -- one paragraph idea actually if Barak calls Imus and his -- he's going to say -- ignorance and -- and -- can help -- a series until -- I don't understand the discrepancy that liberals in in Washington are ready to -- successful things like like welfare reform and -- getting tough on welfare insisted that very very strange -- has to do -- and it's -- and you should be applauding and I'm -- let's find out -- 6172666868. -- Tom -- Here and AM 680 WRKO. Big new win I would say well overdue common sense changes. In homeless policy here in Massachusetts -- the advocates all they erupt announced -- They they are not happy with the governor you I thought you would really take semi political belt light. In the fact that the advocacy I just can't trust is on his name Deval Patrick propose something that makes sense yeah. Strikes me as fishy is I -- behind -- find out what's going out and show well you know it just literally might be at face value that that'd be it it's an urgent Lee. Necessary. Moment fiscally if Iran does that mean he signs his -- though that should yeah that should grab -- And Julie Julie Julie I Julie Keogh is ahead of the shelter of the -- And she says the new rates will save about 520000. Dollars this year half a million dollars yet. And more than eleven there. Billion dollars in the coming yeah eleven billion dollars does that get your attention now at what everybody is lied -- gotta say what he's a billion dollar budget. When he's going to throw people out on the streets starving not -- hurting people is that nobody gets thrown out on the street if the behavior conforms to what you and I would say you're gonna listen to her -- Arabia tireless fight our people for 617266686811. Million balloons let's go to Mike he's -- from north -- bike right out of the box good monetary --"

" It might want to -- That might go I doubt it -- it out yeah that look quiet myself when it based or."

" A whole lot I'm -- is still playing the game were you there was --"

" And I just come back there already have it done -- week's stop I'm one of those smoke that this meant that police that I need -- spend -- that the economy. Because that that's what we have to keep that work."

" Sure -- you absolutely are no one of the little engines out -- Mike."

" I can better believe it's not going to back it's white -- political one like we might now bubble before with the such -- people -- out that I don't know what I really want. That would that pop."

" Yeah I'll tell him this is you get sick this is a welcome bus at a proposals God's given in my -- time as you can EM but this is eight. Let's let's hear -- dragged out and up."

" That drama and that was enough. I I -- enough about it at which we -- that I or some some have a caller on being. I -- specific date I think -- exit quarter. Opt -- I have a police -- cape talk about a nice little place that we want to buy yet. All worked out -- I -- Bob. That is sort of SF site. Right up. You don't know. Almost adjacent to be brought -- at the house can not begin his -- Because we collect disability -- and it and it hit rock we hit it any good it's just that it. It as them act that like all wet mop. Because I try to -- collapse without. -- in the marina. He's got bigger we've looked like just -- irrigation system."

" While Indies on SS so what's the problem like these. -- a -- I bet she's got the house to his they've got the guys Genesis I bitches houses in mid run and probably mansion. It's going to be a somebody else's name is Dennis payments at the bit 6172666. Seats exceed the caves up big enough for -- to buy a home that he'd have to take the whole it to the solar has a -- A hundred southern African wildlife that was the -- the 617266. X 868 pay these homeless -- this is good stuff to odds given a governor time. Time that the act KO audience say you know what this is good -- that was good golfer -- mark scholar from New Hampshire Kmart -- morning."

" Eric that morning I don't you do a great. I grade I outlets and I'm not get a little Larry Ellison got that agreement -- how little --"

" Half of how pretty disagree with these changes if you're bombing you're not your behavior is. Sloppy you're not work union not to the right thing you don't get you don't get any help -- the benefits cinema that's a good thing -- it."

" Well let's black acrylic -- but in New Hampshire wait till the right now -- Left -- cycle like governor radar spending you know inches seventeen point five. I write it projected revenues are not a bad rap music he'd get from. Everywhere figure out the budget are right economy Georgia crap everything. They have no wanting out so what are we gonna do now after we draw the money you know what step let's be conservative two years ago well let's cut spending all the people that need their help. Let's cut state workers but got only black caught fire let's got all these bad bets that the top Echelon all these people make immediate decision. And that implanting a money and they don't have to worry about object and their mortgage object -- their food built."

" Yeah you guys are transitioning to liberalism at a bad time usually they try to do when the money's flowing and the nobody notices."

" Absolutely. Right now where right now I -- a correction doctor in New Hampshire. And -- like they're talking about cultural collier president -- not -- right now and we don't have opted to secure job at least right now and the governor George -- you -- great -- we -- we're not -- we're not going to -- we're -- withdraw -- the president."

" Market job market in general argument however is just a Couric question of timing UN high and I would certainly have done it and it sounds like you -- You know I might have been a little bit -- so -- conservative two years ago people weren't Republicans as well as Democrats he cat not applaud. Finally somebody being sensible about --"

" I think the Republican Party not just didn't and not just in Massachusetts have been fight for all lot erupt."

" Yeah -- the point is you can't get sensible only when there's a gun -- you have to be sensible in advance of the trouble so that's what America is learning right now right and that in which means conservative leadership is why is that a -- democratic colleagues in recent UN held about sensibility can't help them and they're beyond help a hot hot hot -- player beyond -- 7666868. Short break Todd and -- back to you and your calls in a moment on AM 680 WRKO."

" Yeah those pictures are great. This page is great what's it was death right. Ms. -- Savoy catering caption that's better job if -- a good job that was his face a boy or satellite. I do sensible. You would say support that's more sophisticated type I don't I don't know -- fancy a half a -- under the ground is for dinner are apparently but not the deer valley -- for -- that is true -- You have to bring -- dollar -- Consent I would like to drive tolerant lot I think contain remnants of human activity and they don't want any sign in their rooms if you look at the pictures in the -- they -- human -- ever set --"

" Listeners -- just joining us is an interesting has started about the Romney's the selling two of their four. Mansions one of them is Indian valley I believe that's in Utah ski country up there in Utah and at the picture -- that the globe shows you would actually think it's multi unit condominium it's ridiculous sprawling building that looks like -- probably thirty families if you aren't out just LeBron is in their apartment if you Richard if you repeat. -- Yeah if you read this story closely. This it is absolutely. An amazing. Spread 9500 square feet and the balls -- put their home up enough Belmont. Yeah -- so look up the local connection that with Phelps with Mitt. And -- Romney's millions and another -- 35 Guatemala actually in the country something that's something you EU while you're wise guy if so the story yet that we've been talking about is headline front page story in the Boston Globe homeless families face strict new rules now. I'm encouraged by this that said the headlights as at all firm standards set for work. Ian behaving you would ordinarily think that Todd Feinberg my cohost tyranny of succeeding WR KOU within Todd would be standing up."

" Plot but that's me applaud Todd is sitting here solemnly sand. What's detractors can feel what's the gang here to evolve we have is we're just doing so well that makes cents and in public policy then there's something weird going -- Now maybe he's maybe this is somehow he's mad -- Barack Obama has Brock didn't view him as being employable after bring down a Washington. So he's got back -- by doing a conservative tilt while Barack extra liberalize everything I don't get it. --"

" Good morning gentlemen. I was wondering if you might permit me if you might tolerate -- in the classical for one moment -- There isn't general distinction between liberals and conservatives liberals. Generally. And to remedy inequalities produced by the market. Some government expects that creative."

" You have them memorized incidents. That's very impressive."

" Conservatives unfortunately. -- to the chagrin of liberal assigned that duty to individual to ameliorate his own conditions -- appropriate relationship between the individual -- at this particular instance though it would appear as though the administration's gravitating towards. What would be generally considered the conservative program however and here lies the problem. With the current stimulus bill. There appears -- be provision within there and I'm tempted to -- is now. Would relax the restrictions on work. Requirements related. -- of the program. And it would appear as though these Patrick administration's current policy with respect almost as. May gain direct contravention to our central government's position."

" Moment but they might not overlap in terms of where the policy would take effect I mean why would Deval Patrick do this something so. The so upsetting to his base that he would turn out to be cruel and devoid of compassion."

" Well it appears as though this -- this have to be unless he's abdicating its first principles that his. How this appears to be done slowly on the basis. I think pragmatism."

" This is driven by finances -- I don't I don't think there's any doubt about that I don't think you do this on his own initiative -- all saying he's forced to -- because the kind of the revenues is so bad the account for around anymore and and and people have to conform to a new day."

" In jeopardy now however we're condiment I I don't think so I think probably what we're gonna find out when we finally see the totality of the 1100 pages that they voted on without reading is that. While states might be given a little bit more permissive a little bit more latitude to change some of the work requirements that it's not. Mandated that its opt to each state."

" It may have laid out I think in order to control the disbursement of several billion -- were twelve. Ultimately be about three point two trillion when they're done. It appears as though the current administration will probably. Attempt to direct the flow of those expenditures."

" All they'll be punishment only punishment I I just don't think it'll be the kind your thing idea you know -- walk get invited the World Series party. He won't be his phone calls my -- taken maybe his email directs to the black and -- Barack Obama doesn't get responded to."

" And maybe it the president busy. 6172666868. Is the number John is calling from Hopkinton good morning --"

" Hey guys good morning good morning John. You know like to vote them or the initiative here on this which you know what that's not be another huge alien and expanded on and that is illegal immigration. And you know what I'd like to make cases there is certain percentage of those homeless people. That the job in by illegal immigrants. A -- it's straight -- level with people what they were ample. -- that. It stated that hope was that that the -- Patrick want cracked down people have taken the job. On the people who cry out in out state that the services. But the people illegals who go out and make money transfers to transfer cash. Revenue out of the economy. And continue to do it on a daily basis. He wouldn't even consider. It really it security have a state police go back music it would ID or local police communicate with our --"

" Say it -- its all a good point NN it points to our real inconsistency in a real problem however. I think the real fun will come when it turns out that some of these people who do ball's going to be easy he's going to be evicted out of public housing because they don't enough money to be there. Some of them are in turn out to be illegal aliens and then he's going to have to make a decision. Does he treat the elevated class of illegals the same way he he treats those dirty old Americans."

" You know the that the -- illegal immigration went on -- we could do show -- show -- show on that on that topic it is long over to Europe a serious effort but. I don't see a serious effort on our argument you know well I guess really state by state but more importantly federally mean immigration policy has two in the final analysis be established that the federal level. I just don't detect any appetite for it whatsoever."

" Not run because there is forced. Beat because there's a gulf between what makes sense of what Democrats want to -- and they're going to have to. They're going to have to face up to that reality of that day they need to satisfy their base line and their bases illegal immigrants and their supporters are being part of it you made reference to you know satisfaction one's base once political base and a couple of times already. -- He also offended his base I believe. You know with his pursuit of a casino gambling over the past couple years they don't like that they. Is it it strikes -- Rabin exploit hate him sure but -- a little exploitation I think you can live without a blatant cruelty of this the two throw people out on the streets. --"

" Logical rational proposal that homeless people that -- people living in public housing have to route reached some level of of compliance to logic can and reasonable standards. Is that could've gotten an iPod -- yeah exactly Deval Patrick exactly because a totally about it let's do that yeah about well let me know what you're saying I need to be nicer tone. The reason I'm not nice said the reason I can say he's such a ridiculous politician is because this for polls on the front page of the globe today is so shocking now that's why the -- front. Page top of the fault. But it did did your -- because --"

" To do when you when you were being reckless and irresponsible. And then at some point you may be showed signs of coming around and acting a little bit more intelligently responsible. Daniel momma did look at you with a smile give him big hug and -- battle late the numbers are not yet I'm still hope ha ha ha -- we'll battle late than never we take a break and come back to your calls and they have 680 WRKO."

" There's a Monday morning duo of Tom Adams ponder on Boston's talks visionary -- take -- W arterial."

" Eleven million dollars less it'll say it'll save the taxpayers. Eleven million dollars in the next fiscal year 2000 fiscal year 2010. That is not a number to be sneer at what does a lot of money what do you think it's okay our money what is the catering budget for the Statehouse do you think each year -- very -- I mean I don't I think it's insignificant thrilled catering budget -- costs a few million are very small if I was doing some type of I'm you know have an out. A dinner while the committee worked on a bill some like that a different on my camp."

" I -- for your dinner at this tea house you just order a beer. But I'm talkin' the only one and -- I'm talkin' -- if the people are in there now that I throw parties and the governor is throw parties and caterers coming. All I'm looking for is a little balance Irina. What I see being left in place aren't all these privileged things you know doubt no -- the American and the light for now revelation that is a life of privilege stays in place while. Homeless people are being thrown out."

" The story speaks for itself it's on the front page of the globe exactly they may shock a a very sensible. Discipline. Fiscally responsible way of going about yeah homeless regularly -- standards now across the government this is good that could -- nobody who should nobody should gripe. Oh I would think that'd be that should be encouraged I actually think it's probably -- I think it's actually probably much more. Common thing they knew it does more common thing DC with a shrug of the salaries at UMass Amherst I didn't. I did 600 agree. He meant to make it 600 grant that run a department of the C universe run a department would you stop to run a department. Guy is some kind of renowned astrophysicist. The something's who creates intellectual property that the state and the -- and he gets millions of dollars from each and every year billions of dollars. You get discernible Obama's you -- little -- give a little -- and -- how quickly do you think a guy like that get snapped -- on how to -- the universe and other universities suppose we did teach people it's not supposed to -- the if you -- know you -- you want to have a good research university relied on -- that's you don't buy our stuff put some teachers in the classroom and the only kids how about the cellular how about the Nobel prize -- whose discovery. Is going to in genomics I believe it is is on his already started to lead to different Q is a new -- off the -- We're doing great things that you look for cancers taken to ride out. How -- not speak English they don't know how to spell it right they do it UMass medical. They do it you and I don't Gideon TU NASA medical -- know which way is up a box talk and -- university system yeah. Our right so they've got this silly thing going on that's very nice create great doctors and let the moved to California but. The that kits or go through our schools and gone it's in the community colleges in the masses across the state. I don't know how to conduct themselves and -- do -- better about it now stands keep moving up and up and up to get noticed matter not a two student to a I don't I -- gotten any lower than they worked on the panel that idea to cast standards are actually working those have to be strengthened by the way they have the while Morris that's why they're working and others -- rising up so. No -- as well then why is at the Massachusetts students -- better than any -- student is -- tracing the numbers in the -- better against an international. All the reckless to a -- it to the end of the great. 61712 -- I'm not going to give up a number because we're gonna have Steve's siren a moment. Right after the the news at the top of the -- yup. And then them but the her woo wee tart and all I know Paul I should have -- I shouldn't be so light about and I didn't I mean. This it's a terrible story opinion over the sixteen year old girl another girl it's very interest Anderson runs later -- she wandered away. From a party that was going on the -- She's discovered about 200 yards away from home dies and -- it is it is so sad it is so tragic. For that I don't know for the family the community nevertheless you want to break -- over the coal for. Over the coals for being so casual about the way that parent I have so many questions about this I just have so many questions and -- going to be -- conference's to tell you the truth and I don't get them want to talk to I was just going to RadioShack still have a hot hot hot hot hot. They've got the answer."