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Overpaid police?
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Overpaid police?

Published:Mon, 9 Feb 2009
Description:Boston city payroll records released yesterday show that 1,401 police officers - or 63 percent of the uniformed ranks - made more than $100,000 last year. Nearly 500 firefighters, a third of the firefighting force, collected six figures as well. Tom and Todd discuss
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" Qualifies show and you should -- dignity and class and excellence to the job so I don't see any of those things that give them a good salary. Bringing dignity class and excellence to the job you you can him. Well how does work and -- more -- morgue I details anyone else make you a better cop how does that make you better not which are just sick pay make you a better -- when we were talking about or does overtime make you better with a and now you route for several weeks perhaps several I have my legitimate -- hey you know the system then that encourages scam that. You've got would you please clue me in and went under colonial haven't heard about how the system by our camp officer friends would love to know about the -- and that any of them. Would avail themselves of it because they do a good honorable job. Each and every -- and talk bad apple camera that I'm contradicting that issue that what you know I'm not I you don't want to have assists and a and a look at you with. There's smirk on your face you don't want to system that encourages people to the wrong thing. And government wants creating -- system all the time is not the wrong thing over time and I aren't -- yeah and the issue be hiring more people rather than having people make exorbitant amounts of money based on overtime you would then go crazy about the associated cost that. Six Illini get rid of those -- sound processor six. 3000 dollar good salary that your import in the inclined to pay a static patrolman know whatever it might be or firefighter or something like that. You are going to have the -- take a figured that for though what would what is characterized as the fringes the health. The pension and all the rest you don't wanna build the employee base. Two cause of house -- stand explaining to get rid of those things okay so you can afford to hire pizza you're gonna how stupid is it to have its so expensive to have an employee. They can't afford to do it you don't so you don't think your employees should have health insurance while I finish and they sort themselves a cut all right. You -- underground DO. Right they pay for their help that pays half turn they pay for their own Nokia -- is that is an outrageous this I way to structure society I suppose he would now is that how clear your head messages I am doing here. There's and I you do it and now they pay is zero and they give your health care the how hot the other I don't the other way so you sign up here for the Entercom just rather -- out such an exciting -- ha ha ha yeah I think we have a middle little contradiction six run seventh 2666868. Rich Colin from -- pay and good morning rich."

" Good morning to say all time angle and yes he did say yeah that's it exactly what do you think an all time in jail. And."

" India the angling is that you're looking for ways to make more money you know looking for ways to be about our -- now looking for ways to excel in your profession you're -- How to work this system so I can make. 120830. I maybe I. I believe -- say how many people 200 rich tell us how it really works when the supervisor -- win and you gonna be home -- suns. Spelling bee you daughter's basketball game and the supervisors and a rich. You work in the shift tonight no -- in the shift tonight -- by the -- if you catch a bullet to add fiber to be very sympathetic all of morals are demagoguing. That your being malicious now talking like that --"

" It'll spike all I do everything we are back. -- ordered him at midnight Orkut outburst -- and you worked were good or or midnight to go to piled pressure for any doubt what would that -- Like Coke or would you talk."

" How much more do you make when you're working overtime. So so what's your base hourly pay. Okay see your handing out 12612 dollars million and -- that's a good opportunity get excited when you have --"

" To do that -- I want yet called -- is -- big party a lot of you don't -- talk -- don't --"

" No I don't -- very happy and very respectful to police what I said is I think you guys should make good money. For being professionals. For being encouraged to be more professional -- problem what that. I'm saying give you a high salary for being a great -- not because you're gonna work overtime not because you're gonna do we detail -- as you're gonna -- some sick pay system okay so -- contract."

" Condit standing bodies -- would you go to talk. What's going on there."

" So Richard I USA here confident I don't want. I'm not an ideal and it also doing a system that a courage is bad behavior went to leases and Yuri who's Tom Menino is budget. Analyst and guru she's she really understands all the financial stuff that people BO beyond -- sort of looked at this. They say you know. Our costs to that taxpayers the people you and I have reportedly concerned about. Our cost the taxpayers are gonna be high if in fact. We move away from the overtime. And grow the base of the numbers of people we employs some rich gets left let them because of the current system that or that are no job to applaud Obama knows the reason it's going to be more expensive to have more people is because he lost -- high -- business manager knows that over time is usually the least expensive way to get the most coverage it is the least expensive way. To get the most coverage that's in the tech college benefits added another 304050%. Of the costs of an employees C you don't want to add employees. It shouldn't be structured that way let's go to Scott Collins enjoy what I'm saying is respectful of costs in the most disrespectful system you can have underwear and ordered and make a survivable living you've gotta be worked in sixteen or twenty hours a day now that -- sounds like a condescending evil system. Not not one where you get -- a good salary for being a professional working -- better than -- are -- question respect for the professionals and in public safety and didn't even in public -- lies about and I think he's got it all but it was still around because you said it's an angle and he's explaining to he has no choice -- but the sergeant of the captain -- a -- to be like to be like Jason -- coming in right now once and -- by the -- and you've -- plans for the afternoon but. You're going to broadcast so once so on and so what you -- I'm -- get time at a time and half that again -- well one and have -- zero a tally with us at all but I get more health care they've -- that's what that and that's why medical final QB let's go to mono he's Colin from a taxi body around me what Todd and Tom on AM 680 WRKO."

" Guys -- What. Aren't you glad Tom -- no I can't I can't stand only talks. I mean Arizona Boston accents not. It's. Oh inherited credit but. What is your portrait -- and then he would go mono and I won't talk the -- go ahead -- exits on don't know are you start. You know let the prime markets or."

" About a way to motto your -- from a -- what's your take on these 63 year around salaries that were reported in the globe and -- over the weekend."

" You know for sometimes -- group Portland that would that police officers you want to play another. Well not public but supporters of that sent this city is safe so -- the police -- it all the details. Doesn't it seem like there's this city state where probably police office. On the streets are kind of like that so."

" Why don't we higher the cops to stand on the side of the road instead of having them do what they do why don't we have the all stand on the side of the -- have a cup of coffee and talk on the cell phones. That's what they include currently. You -- be demeaning you gotta be -- an unknown because did any of all the little sense -- I want that aren't ready until now jump -- this is the way either -- to earn a decent salaries go to -- do their job and then stay around for another shift -- standing around while somebody -- a -- how insulting is a good trade body -- and -- half of a -- and a police not to lose and realize there's a -- demagogue that I had to leave -- that you don't -- manipulative molesters Mann AM 680 WR -- don't you talk ever again."

" Welcome back in good morning -- Tom -- here with -- on AM 680 WRKO. This a perfect topic for you because you got to suck up to the public employees -- at a time how much grandstanding that doing their all the time off times."

" Involuntarily. The captain awesome and it says hey look we need coverage tonight I'm sure it will all work on those 34 -- four guys simulate I'm sure cause of -- details to. Well but it is quite how that works just -- after her shift at county hospital right. So how are you gonna cover the kids gee I don't know where they were can you do about respect on the back of the cruiser Narnia come on would you please I mean you make light of it but these this is the real deal and -- police -- sucks. Now -- child's -- one of the best -- to Boston -- got shot while -- work in a kind of a flaw -- again got shot to Illinois and over again -- going on this thing the job -- bullets flying all we have good job is to do dangerous work closely comfort of -- IKOs studio and we comment on somebody else c'mon. Now you come online you can't -- did their job is to risk their lives -- what they -- to talk about the circumstances. Highly paid and such is different if you if you're always going to bring the violence into it every time his conversation you can have a conversation on the -- not always bring in the violence in this was -- this was -- poll is -- this time imposed -- they make their living -- what I'm -- what I'm arguing is in -- how to make an eleven if they -- eight -- captain the only way to make -- decent living is by. Picking up the overtime or work in the details that's how they make it decent living so we're looking at two thirds of the possibly make a hundred grand a year or several making 200 grand a year ago. For being cops yeah I say pay him a good living for being good professional people -- train to work going through continuing education and work selling instead of -- at this free for all. Where the more bad behavior or engaged in the more you get reward five of the top ten minutes in the police to penalize -- supplemented did base pay that -- you and I are on the same page. With that more than 90000 dollars each in over to have a good thing. I don't know that it's a bad thing because if infected how -- you do your job well yup by doing that much overtime that much detail work. -- your make an amateur extra money. -- Or work and crazy details in order a medical matter so was I don't think it's right for coddle your -- Jeffs would you -- I am a good salary I don't know exactly what -- what's their base salary now 52. I don't hundreds are reasonable target for somebody who's who's experienced. -- has kept himself in shape yeah and is excelling in his profession that the the incentives should be. Given for being excellent and improved knock for seeing how exhausted you can make yourself or."

" Indeed since when the green eye shade accountants commend to you mr. Mayo okay so what you and -- I say -- the guys with the green eye -- the accounts they know numbers around and they say you know -- me think -- Marilyn Manson is working at the -- instead of putting on fifty cops in this new budget yeah. You can keep the same work force. Well and a out of of you know an element of all the time to his base that we already have a good cops well paid cops will let an element of all the time. And that will be less expensive to the taxpayers that you represent what would you then say gee you know I made this point on RKO and again I just gonna keep adding costs. To the taxpayers they try to find the final."

" And he and the fine line is that they're spending in the city of Austin 48. Million dollars on overtime. 48. Million dollars that's not police overtime that's collective -- tell us crazy yeah. 6172. Listen there's a this isn't just about the cops is a custodian here. How much he make 110000. -- something underground. For for person over tomorrow. Well maybe he's really good at the Brohm and I don't know -- that. That's okay that's about as it is that's an -- around like a theater you guys six was lemons are 666868. Michelle scholar from Foxboro demonic Michelle."

" Good morning settlement and I agree on top artists want. Maybe they got it now I am. II port loved firefighters are plead not there I think there are being baptized -- Say no please stop the Serbs it's a close friend practically -- says. And he'd helped me up camping in the -- access and the police or -- Help me back Ricky how people want to call in sick a lot more than anyone else. We. Didn't like how did not get yeah. Well why not get. Any technique they want be. Oh with Colin. Angle and the though we -- in each deal would. How Long Beach you know police keep not bought you know debate DP this sort of all worked around -- same overtime -- yeah -- Are we go to court but without a -- traffic violation blob blob. -- and you explore our unlike -- And eat out need that. If you still up for roll call out -- call it -- it a -- should be paid four hours a clock. And."

" I -- where he gets pumps but the Big Ten minutes early for work you get four hours a -- time."

" If you'd show up for roll call eight east and round it -- you know start -- count what and don't want at a pretty east at. You'd get four."

" You -- send out a message when a penalize you screw around on the taxpayer's -- since I don't have any -- probably all this up when you're the speaker of the house returned in the none of this went on during your years and this is all just mushroomed since you left no I don't think so you really great cop -- rose I got along with the -- let's go to Scott I'm afraid let's go to Scot -- a drug -- they Scott demonic."

" Good morning guys hey you guys have been like yelled over each other hoping gimme a minute we've got 2.0 it's got. One vote probably times it was not so it's a way to get really -- me the Fella -- There's an article in the recent Forbes magazine called guilt -- pension. And it it talks about the pension plan as well -- time and how well combined together and help politicians that with no spine of elaborate build up. You are you make a -- mr. -- New -- at one example since 2000 the pension fund bill. Has driven from 600 million to five billion. And dollars and now what the point every article. It didn't go bankrupt what politics about 1015 years you know bankrupt because politicians -- it -- now let let the point is that."

" sexed -- they don't let it happen. They make and how does this is part of the partnership between Democrats and unions it that's why it's all Volcker. To see them talk about how they need to cut teachers or something. They they always go for the -- you know that a headline I don't know it got a second point and want to hear it because it's a compound about us or are you kidding me that's too bad okay because that was a good for -- point want to get to a -- break right now are prompted them backed calls in a moment -- 680 WRKO."

" Help before anyone else and I'll clear where everything you -- do though the store your -- it's. Better and I am putting the burden on Boston -- division I AM today W fort Kerio. -- Tom Finneran."

" Welcome back and good morning Todd fiber can't Tom -- here on AM six CD WI KO we have the trial of allied to wet that's because -- colony and it's 617. 2666860. It was talking about the report in the Boston newspapers over the weekend 63%. Of Boston's finest men in blue men and women -- Now earning more than 100000 media which I think is that one -- that they are going to make an underground -- feel I just think they shouldn't have to kill themselves to do what I like about your opinion here is you won its stock -- and it's an alternative approach to the system we have in two you don't seem to be grudge these men and women who are who are on the line. About a I was gonna throw in that death in the line of duty but the -- on the line and we move about daily business each and every day without any great great ideas."

" I think about whenever artsy one of them walking up to a car that they pulled over -- and I think what kind of not moron. Is in that car right and he has no idea what he's walking up to -- no I think they -- the world respect part of respecting cops. Would be to pay them a professional salary and -- and have that money be tied to excellence in performance on the job so -- sort of have an IP you know who the people like in the most money. Are the ones who were least able to do their jobs it would seem to me because of work and so many extra hours. That they've got themselves in a -- you don't want you don't want to created such situation. By contract or by cabinet tradition or -- analyst with a feel obliged to game try the angle -- alike you and I or even original to narrow that time as an angle -- or not -- a legitimate management -- so many hours. That your make into her grand a year how can you do your job while you're you're being incentivized to not be a professional. Two to you know it'd just kill yourself to make a lot of money well 6172666868. Rob column from Westwood demonic rob."

" The -- supporting the -- A couple of mine I like me. And -- I've seen what -- all right. Police eight eat a lot of all options work with a -- and off a lot. With the rapid airing out whole. I just wondered -- what we need. Eight police --"

" This obviously rather exciting stuff going on down and that can -- regularly -- because they love staring down that --"

" Exactly and you know delegate right. Not all that the old hot. But there if you bought the name -- apple they don't have wanting money that we -- out yeah. I mean it would they have. Well recorded at some billion wet wave at you know and the plot. And -- trouble they picked up as well. Or not."

" Yeah but you know that's a difference -- conversation but it it did feeds into this which is why do we treat them like that that that's what they have to do to make a living he can't blame the cops are doing the details that's what's -- made available -- them to up their pay -- you have to admire them being ambitious there ambition should be encouraged to go through positive channels on negative."

" It's a -- but I don't consider going to -- I don't wanted to die on the the the the track at least the for the rest this morning of the track of the details but the mayor himself has looked at this for many many years the -- is very open very articulate about very compelling says look. It probably gives me some -- between two and 300 offices her day. In the city of Boston. That otherwise I I just want to have the -- him because otherwise the tax base spins out of control so it is a -- It's a way it is not particularly -- direct point eight appoint beat it's a bank shot. But he says I would prefer to have the manpower because of the cost of -- isn't coming out of his budget directly that's right it goes to the incident civility is on the road -- it's built into -- of something in my state on it might be bill -- federal money whatever Hartley sitting -- let's see if we get to Ben and lol hey -- good morning -- they were -- on --"

" Hey you want guys about bad pay outside Iraq Iraq are well that was. Well it it can't have at all mean -- never worked and all are sought to keep right there on the -- to rust that built. If you got the better in this -- and you Apple's cool lollipops. Kids do not think. There's a consequence if you blast by a -- sixty mile route is nothing in fact. It's incentives so they typically chicken what would like guys working in the streets and robotic -- I wish I was uptight this topic when as the cops there on the street. The current slowdown that's the name of the game. You in the in the second one want to make duty to. You can speak not the cops say that rather pay -- more money that isn't saying you -- you -- but for the most part by and large it's the utilities. That -- the Japanese cops and make the extra."

" And who gives LA's the money do that then. Who gives the money to the utilities so they can pay that tax."

" Hi Todd you know PM while that the utilities are going to dual pentium the discount I'll grant that. UK these cops more money it's coming directly out of the taxpayer has pocketed your electric bill I can make you aware that isn't going down is that the only state in the union without its. Yes we will problem Massachusetts were the only state in the union that allowed gay marriage but we can't keep probably the only stable unit to Caremark crop."

" Why aren't other states are actually looking at this detailed program as a cost effective way now not a legitimate they're rushing into -- that there are several top -- is -- that's not -- data does yes it -- did the hidden facts -- him right now the costs exists we pay them. It doesn't make sense on a non busy street to have police doing the details come on -- interesting story by the way about inmates down in Bristol counting today aliens. And they're aliens the inmates live and the it's from -- I love it so what brought on the planet up that we'll find out when we come back and may have succeeded that we are -- person."

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