Sal DiMasi- Tom VS. Todd Round 1

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" to. Him. Good morning and welcome Todd primary against concert on Monday January 26 2009. The headlines see each Boston paper says at all to cute story huge huge story from the Statehouse. The globes has been recently dubbed the DiMasi debate -- the speaker of the house will resign and the Boston Herald. As they haven't the Republican race they say -- code divides the SI and -- demise the cinco de Monte. Speaker Sal DiMasi is which way while announcing it both ways -- About -- debates you know which one I I column I've always had -- some peoples and doesn't go vitamin C I. That you'll respond to in the one room does -- as is to have an island period of time you catch him on opt opt. Out. It when we're delighted to DiMasi say that again when call -- Sierra -- of -- funny they're absolutely forever funny typical dopey moron. It's so. I don't because you should you always talk about a constitutional -- okay but you have the right to. Defend it says that again he's just don't mention that name on my show okay one. I'm serious the gas bags and does not -- mentioned on my show you get your own show proxy commands and on it wants a daily why are we getting -- mark fields erected a -- audience and still applies in this so personal about -- presently very defensive first I was at a press -- And or other parents -- it's did the next couple -- going to be incredible apocalypse so I lay this -- in theater and let me lay it out and see if anybody's. Objects okay sure."

" 61726666. Is no objection so -- so far. What we get from this story is that Sal the Macy is a loyal public servant who has kept good divisions up between himself and anything that could be. Untoward influence but. He made the mistake of opposing casino gambling and that unleashed behind the scenes powerful forces who sought to destroy including the Boston Globe. Which has gone on a chair trying to destroy cells reputation. And has successfully forced him out of office."

" But he can create something out of nothing. And obviously there are relationships that as I mentioned earlier to go back many many years and some people of profited immensely. That raises legitimate questions those question to be in pursuit by the ethics commission. By a state grand jury that the Attorney General Martha Coakley has convened by a federal grand jury according to the newspaper reports over the last several weeks. And -- and in so while the era there's no question about it Iraq people powerful. Powerful people who would love to see -- ago. He card creates something out of nothing you can't you can I'd -- and so if there is there there -- then it's not relevant to whether powerful forces have seized that opportunity charges -- because there's legitimacy due to the after the anyways this legitimacy to the inquiry there is -- he's not a victim I would never I'd never said that it was just I'd ever said that you -- impression you might think that no no absolutely not at all I realized. From hot experience and from Scott tissue that I have today. That the office draws a focus that is really how to relate to anybody who hasn't. Hasn't been there before and almost becomes a sometimes of Bermuda triangle because this summer -- our is that our position it's it's it's not so much that is so much pollen there is so much. Well yeah I guess this this this power and influence with that is no question about. It becomes it becomes a hobby it has been a hobby in. Probably in American politics for many many of -- shoot at the top person -- to create. Create club has agreed to change the course of -- absolute right so cell is then. Guilty of having created the circumstances that led to his demise. Because he allowed this stuff to be on on with though it let's talk about the of the mortgage we don't -- you don't really know -- and this is this this is -- you would coaxing and so many others making huge mistake. The speaker does not know. Everything that everybody is doing. In his name I was advised when I became speaker by somebody who had and I think pretty good reason to know what what what could happen. Khatami will find out probably 11000. 11000. Of the level of activity. That is being. It's allegedly done in the unnamed people -- of -- Finneran for -- played football with him I've known for therapy is. I want to northeastern with a -- known for -- for years. They are using did dropping in name in conversation with. Business colleagues with prospect of clients with people that they know they try to make it sound like. Finneran -- clarity about to Macias opted to -- oh this is really about the speaker wants to happen. Half the time you don't even know the people who Woodruff I dropped."

" And this is not one of those cases it's not relevant because we're talking about a guy who loaned him a quarter million dollars for a third mortgage correct. Right so that legal must know him as as I could give you -- mortgage or you could give me -- which nothing illegal about it at all. He had been. Vitale was was -- EU's. To DiMasi's account for more than thirty exactly before the day's work and I'm trying to make what does this is not some random guy know this guy who he met with regularly spoke to all the time was very tight with any took money from at the same time. That Vitale was taking money from people in business before the state. The so that's not the scarier talking about. -- difference in -- and how would amaze you know what the tallies business interest. If you when -- broadcast together for five years and he is twenty years. I'm not -- know what -- business interest parents say to Todd what investments that you make these are -- work in -- we have these are no one's gone on in in the buildings so iffy if it what was happening here W or killed then you would be able to smell. What would declare -- as Fred cutting your client how he's -- America please how did you just make another non actual -- we don't have many factors -- it is a white American and I -- we have to raise doubt this we -- working in the building his lawyer is on record as have a -- never was and the state house. At all know what I'm -- at all if you got story lines that are going on you you're sick you're setting up an analogy of what somebody's 200 miles away chorus and -- I'm no -- could -- five miles away it's -- distant -- I can name and that you don't have another corners -- he was -- apparent you if you what you're saying is he's not able to manage even those closest to. Not able to keep track of what kind of dirty dealings they might be engaged and why -- why would he have knowledge information like even interest even interest in what Vitale. An active and successful businessman. Is doing the only thing wants to know from Vitale is -- and because they've played golf together members of the same golf club they we going to play golf -- I guess that -- he's against Saturn around the house and out there on business be devastated and and -- he would have an interest -- How Vitale is handling his stuff so yeah. What LDQ what your account stone. You know the next day with somebody else you don't you don't -- he's given me a court of million dollars to help out with -- mortgaged. So I can have some extra cash Andy's taken money from somebody who's got business before the state that -- modular concern I was really keep misstating things have to DiMasi knew that he was -- you do retail you just said he wouldn't have any interest. In knowing. He went and he would and it wouldn't care to know you're saying he wouldn't care that's. What if if if McNally is sending as the lobby it would have no interest he has the he has to register now have you been event follow on this I mean you get to spot too well read more about what -- I there was more to be -- I'm not -- it -- I think you're playing and I know I'm quite smart."

" Of -- plain -- and -- here's the deal Vitale and his lawyers say look I didn't do any we have Neil what the statute that requires for -- to register is a -- right when I was still was private I was given advice to people. Now you know some people find in this. A little bit of a stretch to imagine all of this happening including the attorney general who was indicted now the talent. Four misdemeanors but nonetheless these these transgressions of the law. It appears or at least according to the attorney general that Vitaly should have registered to tell his lawyer says you have via EG a smoke and something over there madam attorney general he's not even close to the statutory requirements so it's gonna have to go. And -- try going to a judge or jury is going to have to make a decision. On this. Obviously to DiMasi's says look I've had enough of the stuff I've been doing this for thirty years ago right I got my health care bill -- sprouted. He's just he's grown tired of the the struggle there's if there's a fatigue factor that sets in and obviously none of these mothers controversies world. Die down the you know the swirl is intensified this all the news and news story last week is no question about it there's no question about it the post world has intensified. You located try to say okay -- is one of the other challenges. I suppose if if he had set out. On when he was reelected as speaker in January you know the first week in January. Sent out an ambitious agenda he might want to be tied to that but you know he DEE -- really -- conceptually at that time so I think the evidence was -- to build that. He was really trying to think of what are what are want to do next a year paint a picture of him as victim again rather than as somebody who screwed it up speed it it it might in the end to -- to might be very well what you're suggesting that you know he screwed this up off friends French created this situation -- is which go back to this notion that and politically untenable situation what."

" You've been doing over Alaska armistice talking about the technicalities. Of the law and -- what do you. Weathered the behavior is overlapping with the technicalities a lot of effort to be illegal now it seems to me that the reason the people of Massachusetts and the people country are uncomfortable with their leadership yeah. Is because. We know people are their parson laws rather than be having honorable if you be have moderately and you do you start for you sit everybody down so you start -- you best friends you say lock. I'm in a position of power now show where everything you do could come back to hunt me. I don't want you haven't any business to do anything that has anything to with the state that could possibly -- circle back to me you know if I hear you are now if I hear you know those kinds of things I'm severing all -- on a non -- yup -- because now my job is to do the people's business right I can't do anything for myself anymore that's right only do the people's business that's right you'll have to do the same and and you know what he's a white a white take."

" You know should be listened to this conversational John Rogers and by the delayed because there enough three's Monroe. -- clarity Meehan seldom -- all of whom have these are left are after the fact of their leftist head to. You know clouds of ethical accusations criminal accusations -- like you have to you have to be. You have to be toughest on those with whom you closest announced that's how I would summing up I think what I."

" don't that I wrote I don't hear you don't I don't hear you squeeze and and I know these guys your friends and you don't want it on the air in -- it and embarrass them but. Isn't there -- I don't I'm not embarrassed by senator you have to be toughest. With those pop up on those with whom you are or not seen any of us and lesbian tougher than anybody well EC is a lot of you know swirling of money around tests."

" Those circles -- with -- respectively are when we're talking about to Leo and Rogers are -- amazing -- speaks for itself. These things these these clouds erupted a swirling around one wishes I could well I can step back from that speak very very I think objectively about it. And one wishes that. The carton house representatives. Were mall were perhaps more up front with the -- AJ have been approached and people understand I think we might never relationship and going to be lobbying aggressively for Cognos to get this contract I don't know what -- would do at that point he's aware but he is not awarding the contract on the ticket broker thing -- You know you'd probably better for everyone if a -- had registered. He didn't register as a lobbyist he did not register probably united say better for everybody. None of this is criminal activity attributed to the basic none of it taught me even even the most you know even the most. Tilted interpretations. His approach is criminal activity by on the -- debasing. What he appears to have done that might be most offensive to people at the globe is when globe reporters. Approached him and asked about it he said. I have nothing to do with that I don't know what he does I don't care what he does I have -- the I have no knowledge of that and maybe in it appears he may have had some knowledge it appears he may have -- Pushing back against the globe reporters not a crime I mean you push back against global Wii but we do it in here every day when markets -- can you imagine the stupid report but what these people."

" Let's get on let's get some callers and on this and I'm find out how they view the scenario if they take the federal approach which is this is what happens when your power. And you have to be more careful and have once you have that apple -- daily news I thought you might that I was yeah and clarity while you're an -- different that was a moments in front of -- judge when you let hubris get the best of right -- but that's different from India but. I -- outside it has an -- after a couple year investigation by the FBI. They I mean even the FBI the US attorney in the jet set. Honorable never question of honest. A legitimate had worked in public service and in my right thing was I pushed back against an accusation that I had -- engaged in racially motivated redistricting was absolutely untrue accusation and."

" I blew up. The larger problem that I see here is that people going into the Statehouse because of the nature of the legislative body and that you gain power by trading things and by making deals and building friendships and and building clicks of people who all move together in order to consolidate power. That you become somebody who is not doing the people's business anymore it's about what you can do to two -- achieve more power for yourself for sustained power for yourself. And this is systemic problem with that. That leads to these kinds of problems that the DiMasi's -- That what we see and maybe they are interpretations are being tilted -- corrupts a newspaper that just out to get cell. But what it looks like is time and time again whether it's Dianne Wilkerson and or whomever. He is and by the way she's raising a similar kind of defense no laws were violated you know she's claiming no laws were violated the because -- just taking donate ocean Doug don't even put the two in the sense tell us little defense pop but I'm pretty good -- she's using the same defense you're raising for south. What -- what I'm suggesting is that. The honorable way to conduct yourself in public office is nothing is for me -- all of my decisions are only made about what's best for the people Massachusetts -- I don't think anyone up there does that I think what they're all -- us."

" Now that that you -- is so badly overstate the case it's -- it really is it's ridiculous so sub -- his approach on healthcare a gay marriage you might disagree with them on gay marriage -- clearly did I clearly -- on the healthcare -- I think we both disagree -- think it's probably too much too fast unaffordable unsustainable so on and so -- but he are you saying that his motivations of those two signature issues. Was personal financial gain in --"

" Why I didn't our personal financial -- and I said. Personal gain. So that might be just gaining political power by selling out to the gay community for camera which is a very powerful movement in the city if you are doing something. In order to ingratiate yourself with a particular voting bloc that's wrong for the people of Massachusetts if you're denying the people -- the right to vote on gay marriage for example because. You'll gain power from a certain constituency -- that you're not doing the people's that would Buick."

" Knowledge that this is Syria and a significant segment of the Massachusetts public view and I am not part of this segment but would you acknowledge that they route via. The gay and lesbian community who actually think that'd -- he is and always has been a fundamental civil right and that it was nothing but homophobic bigotry that prevented them from doing what they're when I'd sue their groups of people that believe everything so what's the point is whether and how you define the public interest in by by him doing what he he believes is right. -- There is out there are a host of people out there who think you and I are homophobic bigots now with push back against that interpretation about motives and our outlook and alike but. I mean who is right on the issue. For you to -- OG he was doing it to ingratiate himself with the gay community in order to gain more political power I would say but in terms of political power cuts back against him as much as it helps and a coliseum got hurt -- well 6172666860. CN noble man -- the DiMasi. Being brought down by a in noble newspaper or did he do something on identity of the united targeting that that that's might be saying those candidates who -- a look at how is -- if -- not being -- by the -- Always being chased by the globe relentlessly because they want to get rid of -- as as bright as I said the -- kind of make it up out of nothing but cut maker I mean there're there're enough pieces around this thing that BS scrutiny and that's what's going -- there's lots of -- scrutiny let's go to -- he has -- from -- rob good morning around the electronic job."

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" How to weld help help me understand that how DB gain. He took he took a mortgage. -- as as -- could give me a mortgage -- you could give Todd a mortgage he took a mortgage from a guy that he had done business with for thirty years he's paid the mortgage backed. It -- all harmless."

" Yeah I got no means. That this Sony always taken pride in it you'd expect and welcome and."

" If that I have however the drop like I just tablet is say that casually as they push back against Todd. What -- Welker and is accused of doing is so far removed from. The that questions that have been raised about the -- in his relationship it's like night and day. It's absolutely like night I don't know why I think it's a fine line that separates I don't think -- a fine --"

" You know. Alt on the -- don't expect. Okay I'd be the yes that's the what what Bob said about why. It -- It really quiet and what they -- now. About it at the place the."

" Well -- However rob stay with -- for a second now I asked Todd the same thing. The legislature does not Award contracts. The governor whomever the governor is all the members of his administrative team so they go to the information technology division they reviewed the bids. They choose clogged -- to DiMasi is not. Need of that how do you say -- you can always on -- that people say who has run around the building telling everybody wanted Cognos to get this deal is he without influence in the black people people said he expressed an interest in having software that would provide date. Accurate data so that legislation could make timely and well and -- decisions. Everybody rob from Westwood Todd and -- at the three of us were up there we would say gee I'd like to get the data Rhonda gas tax collections on the meals -- collections wicket with thinking of this with thinking of that you'd need this system to collect -- while their relationship -- I don't know what -- let me break -- we all on board right now rubbed the representative from -- Tom. That type -- data would be helpful to what legislatures so far so good."

" Get its act. But it would all rights it would get accurate it would. Not after the people."

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