Pols on the pay raise

" Last night we told you we're we're gonna open up the lines should not just to listeners you can call into what we want to talk to some legislators who gave up the money. Who are not taking the pay raise as you know. Under radio phony baloney skiing there was a set up about ten years ago by a guy named -- Finneran was now looking for a pardon from George Bush. The the the legislature gets automatic pay increases every two years this year there it's supposed to go from 5800237. To 61440. Dollars now lot of our lawmakers given the bad economic conditions. Have been not turning down the money were pleasantly surprised that the the numbers as large as it is. But I might -- today on the show on this morning in my column in the terabyte invited anyone who was who's who's not taking the pay raise. -- so launch cannot call and and I get get some free air time when we want to we want to congratulate the people or take in the money. It's a it's it's it's such a bad example their constituents are hurting and so with fewer accuracy if you're a legislator who's not taken the money. Give us a call at 18774694322. Will give you. We'll give you some months time on the year in again we want to get some calls and from first from our regular listeners as well to you don't have to be -- on the call we're talking about these Beyer raises. This is ridiculous that the they're giving out these. The thing is."

" I don't think Deval Patrick -- the about these pay raises he has easiest to use he he statistics to to determine the median household income in Massachusetts. For the last two years. Mideast sorted the numbers for 2008. Yet -- it was two of 2000 and ages did did what 889 days ago ridiculous. Joining us now on the line is I care and -- She's a Republican for true very short one of the first people to step out yesterday and say she's not gonna take -- pay raise -- good to have you are -- car show."

" Young and how wait for inviting your thought tonight I get someone of those aren't so -- that -- become. And I and I am certainly not looking at the you know -- filing coverage. Some might might wring out quite this good it's the right thing to do leader very serious time then. You know at a time when public opinion of politicians. In that it all time low right here in the commonwealth and probably carpet country. We need to step up their leader then. You know make. Take action by example."

" Well I saw you see you war you were born in the paper today is say in this room particularly bad time for you considering that does EMC corp. Which judge has a very big presence in Worcester County just laid off when he 400 people listen this week."

" That's right an -- have a good job people write in my backyard and I -- been hearing from people over the past thus 68 months."

" BM later with -- and come down to one you people really struggling every single baby are very very glad I didn't we in government I need to at least myself recognize that we need to recognize that it."

" Actions alone. Speaks volume and I think the fact that the humility even talking about. Talking about. Talking about came eight days at a time when we need to be looking at an articulation enough and -- I didn't I -- a little one in my. -- Indiana. Yeah a really good at the idea that anybody about any waited a -- Yahoo! by the hundreds mental health workers and going down this commonwealth it's just it's just not the right thing. -- begin video that."

" That I was an appalling juxtaposition of news stories yesterday you know that -- Can't bowling citizens in need are being laid off in the legislature is gay is he -- had a big pay raise to itself."

" Well you know why people are feeling -- kinda bad government committed -- they need sort of like a helping hand we have Sharon. Knowing that they can that cannot he would make good responsible thoughtful decisions. We've got people appeared Beacon Hill let it completely disconnected. To what's going on in the real world and you know it it really -- an act of courage for me with the right thing to do it I -- want to answer to express to your listeners that the going to be -- straight -- yeah. What a lot of ideas floated out the -- I think that we could do right this year and I would hope all. That we will pay some of those tough decisions reform some of the institutional. -- problems that we're having an act government whether it be helped cure while public employee changing the -- system. These good things that we need to do in the public sector that we are you -- in the private sector and demonstrate that there were written that we're wringing out every efficiency and savings we we can before asking that people get paid that I'm more weathered attacks bigger toll."

" Karen thanks for being with us we appreciate it and it's good day I know that tell your you know -- one last question your constituents are very concerned about the toll increases to. -- you think we can we meaning everybody and it on the neared or sure in the city of Boston and metro west and Worcester County do that we can stop these toll increases."

" I'm that the hearing the other night and whipped unfortunately I think that storm did so many people away with may be left and twenty people in the realm to. Testified before they met turnpike if -- thought that would pretty. You know you know not a strong shelling out about people getting out -- to expect that these toll but not the right -- serving."

" I am calling for emerging that the turnpike -- the highlight that doesn't have to happen. You know think about selling some of the apple like Akron Ohio talked about the years."

" If we can do them those things are. Then I think will be in good stead with the public but I think there -- heading right Troy gaffe after -- naked transportation -- and -- The direction that I'd like to -- out."

" Thanks -- boy you know get back to your kids. Okay thanks -- you know Republican from true berg she's not taken a pay raise. Everybody wants a call and caromed do so 187746943. To -- this isn't just for Seoul wants this evening though we want to talk about these pay raises what are. Before I even if euros -- just the I taxpayer what do you think that just a taxpayer even if you're a taxpayer. What do you think of these pay raises 18774694322. Joining us now is Don Thomas and he's a state reps from west feel. Don I saw you want TV you last night."

" Salary ought to look yeah. It did the camera adds a lot of extra -- I I know that personal auto Hardaway told our victory about a -- It didn't do much better alternative. Drummer. But are very low -- and that's why can't believe. That up you know we in the legislature -- walking the taxpayers left to right. Is your question one goes down the first thing we do we come back has talked about raising. He got stuck to themselves to actually an income tax again until. Good -- guys this is not the right doesn't do any of those things."

" they told us if you vote for question one your property taxes will go up want to vote for question one and guess what our property taxes are going up. They were ranked."

" They in the same thing happened to me I got my daughter -- still listed a lot of my constituents and MF -- problem -- Massachusetts that do it only goes one direction. It never get cheaper -- always gets more expensive and and we're pricing people out I'd have told my parents government they're good conservatives and and go to Beirut spiritual right wonderful I was but they said. Well actually looks leaves Massachusetts or go to Florida. Question Bob -- he can't even say they're building nobody left -- kind of -- boats but the other thing is the people who can afford to leave. Probably -- relapse certainly -- absolutely think and the people wouldn't get out of here are doing that political after the long sir coming here because. They're benefiting from government programs that are very very generous compared to our surrounding states. Are there are -- because in gay marriage. Earlier because of illegal immigrant benefits -- much. I unfortunately to some greater how are you gonna don't know that's -- that's not what Massachusetts is all about and that's not a direction machine --"

" You what drives me crazy ever present Thomason is when they almost talk about fixed costs. You know they we have fixed up what you know. Corporations don't have things called fixed cost they they make cuts you know they asked whether it's you know we increased a co pay or who doorway with a 41 K match her layoffs. There's no such thing is fixed cost and allegedly estate or municipality."

" Well pretty empty yesterday look at both unemployment rate numbers that came out today it's all going out because you know despite such as to what they have to do. To get back commercially and shedding jobs and and you know -- talked to governor -- crew in the past couple of nearly as term ever doubted. Thousands of you do employees still waltz right."

" Yet hiring freeze we saw the story in our paper allowed got a nice step. From -- from some employees -- Governor Patrick hired this guy this warrior the lives around the corner from -- I don't think the guy had a job and a couple of weeks after announcing the so called state hiring freeze they hired this neighbor of Deval Patrick's for a -- people. Control of all things a 120000. Dollars a year."

" Now. It's just not right it's send a terrible terrible signal that makes big you know my constituents and other people all across state look at every one of those politicians. Like we're the bad guy with. And that's public they're -- of Pluto just a few minutes ago yeah there's a group -- from Beacon -- that are trying to remind people that we need to be saying that we need to be. Over whether -- spending that we have to live within our means just like. We ask everybody ultimate state digital. And that's why you -- elected in 2002. Personally I ended up going to do when I came as a freshman. Was sent a letter to the chargers -- no longer accept pay -- so you know we keep having to do this kind of thing and the street isn't getting any healthier. So we are looking editors -- and architectures aren't a -- for more Republicans but it certainly would help a little bit and vote for conservative Democrats who respect the taxpayer."

" I I know I couldn't agree with more Don but it -- its very. It's very disk discouraging you know -- every year you guys seem to lose a few more -- to me you didn't know what was defeated in this past election you'll lost you lost three seats that war held by Republicans are retired and it's it's unfortunate. And some good some of the -- in my area there was one -- one Democrat was elected does saying that she like tolls. An image and a whole street and the and it turned district how can add me."

" We -- little other western Obama this files from Boston Drudge report you know we legislators get the per -- social and -- for our costs but what about. Our constituents were driving from the western part of this week a metro west into Boston. And they dedicated a range missiles and a bigger worry about an increased gushed I could not only effectively one -- the other going to be bald heads and we're going to price people -- the state. And that's a boarded -- so. You know try to do the right thing I'm gonna do it -- there -- to charity image in west fuel could honestly I think that we can spend the -- is -- that they cannot be you know."

" I told Scott brown was my I saw Jennifer cal him on a TV last night did -- I don't trust the state to spend the money wisely saw my keyboard and give it to somebody I thought it's okay for Republicans to say that but I don't think Democrats are. I thought there was almost the trust via the -- nanny state you know I mean they -- they can spend that money anti obesity programs among schoolchildren you know Jennifer. Long regarded governor -- government rhetorically. In your options thanks dog okay up -- I -- prelude to that's a representative Don homicide and he's a Republicans for Westfield again it's open night Andy any anybody who didn't take the pay raises a welcome to come on we have a couple of -- minutes here to speak. Joining us now is the motto possibly from -- Beverly. The not all."

" Good afternoon always you don't want to I -- well and -- I just wanted to chime in on this thought this was part of my platform when I ran. 25%. Pay cut across the board every elected official did you lose -- I -- I -- tried to talk a lot underwriters and."

" She did they in the movie of the the -- put down former rapidly said she's I don't know I don't remember this kind of auto bodily out off okay update cycle I'm sorry but I'm sorry you lost if you wanted to cut their pay -- will Republican or Democrat."

" I read the reform party candidate the first time that is an Independent yeah the other times. You know it's -- it's insane. Amount of money these people lovemaking but doing which you know is basically couldn't do nothing don't show what job."

" What I like I like the complete quote the globe today for months music. You know why you jerk he's you're -- wrap up Leinart or else might dismiss accept Frank's music. Like many others I have to pay college tuition loans and home loans and keep up with expenses gene that makes him different than everybody else in the world right there might pay is not so high compared to other government officials -- not compared to what an attorney could -- in the private sector. Wool if you think you could do better flank why should get another -- and you know we don't want a gun to always have I I didn't I don't think we have a Selective Service System. Could scripting --"

" I mean that's good. This senator told veterans day is just insane I know he's he's your favorite person in the world wouldn't need a perfect example of what is wrong is up but for what has drawn up -- else. You know I'm not gonna eat up too much on the other cause -- and -- wanted to chime in the Jenrette and let people know where -- stand on that."

" Okay thanks to an auto good luck in your next run 18774694322. Joining us now is our representative Jeff Perry. Republican from -- which judge Jeff you know and take the money either."

" Bob let let all my good friend from west Obama promised then and -- donated to charity in my district. I was thinking about it like came in 2002 like get representative on the then I decided that I wasn't going to take the raise rates at the letter to the treasurer. And what I stand for the past six years it every that this state government has that -- spending. Thought I'd take that 3000 bucks then cut 6500 dollar check to. People in my day strike should they organizations in my district tour helping veterans who are helping. The homeless who are helping people. It would have food pantries and make a little splash and spread the good cheer around my district rather than. Putting money back into the general fund which you will surely be wait."

" What do you say you go back next weekend people are gonna see your comedy going to hear your comments here tonight really going to see your comments in the paper -- weekend. -- going to say you know Jeff."

" Well you know it is he going to be can help for cutlery and some people go to -- held a tribal leveraged up. Political but it position they have filed by high paying jobs -- people go. Says Serbia state rep for the -- bill I Obama actually try to change bank give a boost small group -- looked up there. Republicans were trying to make things better I'm not going to be there must -- I'm not gonna be there forever. And while ma'am -- try to shake it up whether it's gonna illegal immigration are wasteful spending. Or that the abuses of the pension system. Like Don -- going to camp -- reform a widget trying to shake it up when -- professional politicians -- have made maybe some people are but that's pop up."

" Okay Jeff idea -- not take in the dorm Roger given an Award given it away and cost back with when you're when your bills come up on illegal immigration okay."

" Yeah I you should know that the bill that representative. From often have filed every year they give in state tuition he bent out an email a couple of days ago. Thank you brief -- actually very optimistic that it got past that there. -- allow anybody and you know it's it's it's the never ending battle plane -- sent all the time by. And other people while they're wild -- that -- some good conservatives out there -- good Republican that I'm -- by the end Bryant 2000 --"

" Okay thanks Jeff Perry that's representative Jeff Perry from -- which 1877469432218774694322. -- wasn't taken the money any reps can feel free to call -- and I get on the get on the one word -- some calls from a from our our listeners and just on the what do you think of this this pay race here. It's album makes a huge sell -- may see is he he he -- to accept the pay race. He made to debate is bill somebody's got they got people all coming after him from every direction. He said the issue has been removed from the political process play in 1999. Constitutional amendment that that constitutional amendment by the way was proposed by -- Finneran. Who is now why you -- gone to prison -- deterred from the punch ball. End he is say he he he is now seeking a pardon from. George Bush in the final days -- the Bush Administration Linda you're next with how we cargo I have Linda."

" How we how have. Therein I'm -- my brother works for the state of Massachusetts and he got a letter just the other day from governor tactic that says you pay raise this year than being zero for fast."

" Next you're good at 21%. Because -- stay and play."

" A lot of trouble so. Yeah site -- you know -- interesting that this state employees. But the state legislator. Not to hold different plateau."

" A -- you know the Macy the speaker had the audacity to send out this statement to the press last night. This year the legislature will receive a modest increase next year we have already been told to expect a pay cut. And so -- the reporters. -- Norad the reporters asked his this flock his spokesman. -- who told to expect a pay cut -- there'd be -- reporter did not respond to questions. Patrick's office also could not explain the reference to -- make up what do you think the odds are that the legislature is gonna get a pay cut -- years when to release zero."

" Many going to get a job with the steady so don't have to take a cut you know like. And how these other people."

" Amazing -- I'll tell you brother I'm -- Asia brother."

" Well you know IRA I just -- got a job but I know that's true what do you kind of."

" Thanks for the call had a 18774694322. Joining us now on the line is Mary Ellen Manning from Essex County the governor's counsels she was not affected by this pay -- But Mary Ellen you haven't taken pay raises in the in the past have you."

" That's right. I know I'm proud December lowest paid evidence counselor in the commonwealth."

" But but but but but it why don't you take your pay raises Mary --"

" Well first of all what is the governor's councilor it -- council done to deserve a favorite you know this really only two reasons to get a pay raise one is the merit. And the other one extra cost Olympics. We haven't done anything meritorious. The and the other -- in our cost of living -- the people who work fulltime and rely on. It's okay necessarily the list."

" W how -- part time job you can win there and some of those meetings on Wednesday afternoon last as much as 1520 minutes."

" Although didn't want to -- that but that's not the point need that now people say yeah but but he added at halftime show up. You know you can get a cost of living increase for part time position -- the start right. In other people that are living on 25000. Dollars the ES. And you know they deserve. They cost of living increase but we certainly don't."

" What he's stay out of these legislators making it sound like they're you know -- it's some sort of volunteers. That are not -- tears -- conscripts into the state legislature and that that you know why why aren't -- being paid a full time salary and by could be making a lot more elsewhere you know I was I was unaware that they were being compelled to serve in the legislature."

" Okay I'm indentured servants after all because -- so lucrative. Careers they'll clear that there had not the dissipating. We all know that no one of the things that wanted to point out to you is that there. I think is this under current. Representatives and senators who have claimed that they going to forego these. The increase and instead give it to charity so basically what vehicle what they say they're going to do. Is take your money and give it to charity and then take credit for whatever -- portable hospital. You know they've given money Chile haven't named after themselves and yard die in. And there's no way to prove that they actually gave the money away at all."

" Well hidden in it's Scott -- senator Brown's case a couple of years ago he actually sent me the canceled checks."

" It could -- learning. -- money."

" It is a it is my money but I'm -- mean again though you know Mary Ellen in this case beat the voters stupidly I will but I you know I hate to sound. You know like I'm speaking down to the moment of my fellow. Taxpayers but the -- stupidly approved this constitutional amendment ten years ago would -- gives them the right to get this automatic pay race. Point -- it -- point my point heavy aren't we went we followed that week. Not may but a majority of the voters voluntarily made this decision to relinquished their cash. Ash."

" So we -- iffy -- legislate toy. I really all that interest in making sure that did not wasting your money wonderful logical thing for them to jail. I'm still the law. And like they take get what steps that they take into until stiff reprehensible. Statute is our constitutional amendment in the midst of you know a huge. Budget crisis that we end up. What that the what Stephanie -- detect."

" They they have about as much chance of passing that legislation. As they do of passing legislation. Two. Require the election of judges. By the voters."

" Well how -- vote. Term limits the judges which we've been talking about offered some time."

" Or deter or getting term limits for judges past."

" They state they won't even silent. They they won't even draft it. They won't even waste the ink to draft that these people."

" All -- share. Five from Holyoke files files a you know the petition every two years to two was elect judges ended they'd never gets out of committee."

" But these -- of people there who in the first light years they would they are to be termed first told term they would -- the only bill that got past work. Individualized. Pension benefits. Extra time for people in particular school I don't think it's got a single bill -- had anything to do know. Which of these issues of the day they were all just. That's a -- gathering for our friends and family business that's a -- like to name what I read the newspapers but what do lying now and get my information from new."

" No you're you're getting you're you're getting the information that -- correct as you well know Mary -- Well listen -- Heidi I appreciate thank you for not taking the pay raise as well."

" I thank you and happy. Million."

" Happy new weird YouTube Mary -- about 8774694322. Wheelchair for more reps will put your calls in just a moment on the pay raise the Mac that's the war I think that automatic pay raise a Maui car."