Israel-Hamas-Gaza

" Our guest would be the consul general offer Israel not to -- is joining us he alive funny and succeeding WRKO Todd -- in Tom Finneran. Good morning consul general how are you today. -- wrong. Thank you for joining us consul general where are all the way around lawlessness are aware from the news reports and newspaper stories. Of the rockets that'd be have been -- fight into Israel and Israel's recent response. Why don't we just to give it a -- dropped from your perspective tell us what the what the scene is a bit to -- It and what you expect the next few days will hole to."

" Well -- and actually I'm not going to be ready in two operative. You know a tactical details but that in essence is that they do we are no. Engagement operation. Oh which supposed to change the situation on the ground and read the book that the task. -- most of billions we -- would obtain the best situation for them for many years."

" Why is. IE you know I I understand the the response I don't understand how the response is going to work do you have some sense that. That this military actual somehow create a more peaceful situation."

" Look we are trying to achieve it that way and we will reach some kind of book of books it's by Eric. Arrangement it will be durable and sustainable which means that there are only that the rockets will -- But Hamas will not be able to smuggle all of those weapons into the go Streep and decide whatever they want. People aren't terrorizing our citizens. The center of the -- little bit operations. Equipment that are the capabilities and to eventually reach arrangements that would change that the security situation and the out of this world."

" Consul general Tom Finneran hero again a question for you. You know the the firing of rockets into Israel is fairly well known and I think well reported here in the United States. And yet I am not familiar with any. Expression of well who an expression of world opinion. That would've condemned. Hamas for doing that. And yet when Israel is finally responded as you have over these last few days with the air strikes and now with the ground invasion. World opinion seems to quickly mobilize and condemned Israel. For reaction for reacting to. The provocation what. How does how do you explain that I'm I'm I'm I'm literally bewildered by how quickly world opinion expresses you know says one thing. In response to one set of actions but is silent on another set of actions."

" Well I actually sure you're on your amendment. You know we we're trying to get the world to focus on this but there was no focal whatsoever. And our citizens and the are we -- for a long time because we have during that period and no word tolerance than. And they in Middle East actors will do something. To stop this. Eventually we couldn't restrain any more because we had to change this situation because of this through the first obligation of every government to protect its citizens. I -- may need to not when we started. All of a -- there in the sense of urgency. But I hope that it's that sense of urgency in the where do we lead. To a realization. That come out are no authority to write our. Citizens in this -- terrorizing their own people and using an -- of human shields in order to do it. You know components in the crippled on the war."

" Yeah they obviously -- care about their own people do today Hamas and I'm of the Hamas obviously doesn't care about its own people as a vote does some kind of -- politics for Iran or some other actors and."

" Greg come out in the procure -- run. There are parked -- this alliance would cream below and Iran and in some ways theory goes well. Under at least two brings a 22 -- of this -- Islamic radical ideology. In their entire Middle East and while doing that there are threatening not only broke that are -- disability. That's threatening the prospects of peace that we old yearn for in the Middle East. And eventually we have to do some things but we are not there. Confront the Palestinian people who have they're too far and how much strategy in a two step to come out foraging for terrorizing. Our citizens."

" Nevertheless consul general there there are Palestinians dying and the fact that. Hamas is not relieve the their representatives and the fighters of the Palestinian people but more proxy firm ran. Doesn't that lend some moral authority to those who would argue that Israel is using disproportionate response. And that this is too much violence to be even on people really have nothing to do with the attacks that are take place against Israel."

" For the world I want to make it very clear that our heart goes oh. For the Palestinians. Victims of this and we and we see those picture we are of the devastated as any human being. -- since suffering. Big question all of this proportionality. I think is not presented right because what people expect this to do when they try to keep posting billions. Should we do the same when Billy -- to -- kindergarten in. In OSCON on that lucky he was it was empty and that means that we have to grow up to a there -- kindergartens. What disproportionate. You're in that there are targeting our civilians and we are targeting their terrorist. And unfortunately. There -- being there are civilian population of human shields and that's -- companions are getting hurt but this is not our goal. Our goal is to bring an end to this and I hope that the period that all doctors in the middle it's -- some kind of influence over Hamas. We'll send them a clear message that looked -- are doing is not only against the Palestinian interests. Pretty against them the interests of older do peace loving country. And to -- than of the Middle East. "

" Our guest is consul general not up to -- we're talking about the situation in Gaza will take some calls on this at 6172666868. Consul general. Just take quick -- a quick question for you. If by hamas' decision all by some military success on the bottom of Israel the rockets stop being fired. I'm curious as to your opinion who would be acceptable as a nude body neutral -- a neutral and impartial refereed to try to make sure that Hamas does not. Begin to bring in you know smuggled in additional weaponry engage in the provocations which have already occurred."

" Well I think that's in premature there are different actors were trying to play a positive role. Egyptians. We're trying to mediate the continuation of the cease fire which must still rule -- dollar. Are we don't know yet who will be. To act or that will play that's -- we are working gauging in diplomacy. Behind the scenes. -- many actors and we hope that eventually -- that it we will find the right formula. That would -- only stop the rockets but create this mechanism to monitor. This ceasefire and to stop the smuggling of weapons but I don't know yet. I'm in you know I can tell you exactly who will do that."

" Lipstick -- a couple calls of we can and counsel general -- calling from Wakefield Ray -- with the consul general not up to me up."

" also general. Good morning where the morning that tried and good morning nemesis from Greg thank you call. Yeah I I just want said the consul general noted there are a lot of us here in the in the states their full support of Israel. And we believe that I firmly believe that Israel has an obligation take get rid of Hamas side of the Gaza. I don't know how difficult it is and I can assume it is very difficult. Which -- know you'd think you'd as far as I'm concerned you can find eat in peace agreement with these people but date but they don't follow the -- diplomatic role. They'll they'll break another cease fire -- I hope. I would hope Israel cleans house I really -- like -- they want to geyser and destroy. Hamas. I think that these organizations have nothing but contempt in -- eight for the world community. And we didn't have a little piece of these terrorist organizations. Our existence because they eat they consider Israel a little faith in the consent the United States the big say we're in this together."

" appreciate the -- let me ask consul general. Hamas was is the beneficiary are at least they claim to have been chosen. Under our what would pass over the -- election it might not beat the type of elections we ever in the United States but. There was you know there whether there was a vote and a Hamas was chosen consul general. How do you in the aftermath of that reality. Deal with a body that presents itself as having been duly elected by their own people."

" When -- the world there were elected for a the parliament they'd they'd be one. You know a much earlier production majority but there have been propped up in the parliament but the administration. It was still under administration. That we see the legitimate. Were preventable the Palestinians and that president. What about what are we do it is our partner. In peace negotiations. In order to achieve a two state solution. Hamas. Made up only. Are not. In accepting the root of democracy which in my book. If you don't accept the -- of democracy you could not play the game of democracy because we have to remember. That is that even our Hitler. But I know. You know what they elected to -- in the elections in Germany but you need. You know he just a -- democracy when he got there about what about the there actually created a quick bit -- against the moderate Palestinians in Gaza on took over and since then I don't Israel the international community. Area -- You have been leaders of the free world in Europe in the US and Canada. And even more great. Are not seeing come up some of them due to meet were presented of the Palestinian people."

" Our guest is no doubt no doubt -- he has a consul general for Israel and I was taken calls John calling from Hopkinton good morning John."

" good morning everybody who want to. It's not a point about suffering of the Palestinian people yes we think it -- you know taught they elected -- slim majority in in the past two years what have they seen. Nothing but despair and nothing but corruption brought on am by a -- What about the voices of the Palestinian people they hear that they you know and now we want I'll mop up rooted and take it away. And you know we may have to sacrifice. Some innocent lives which isn't that a sacrifice worth having for having. Some kind of peace and stability. And some type of hope for future that we certainly don't have now."

" You know an argument from me and I'm not I'm supportive of what the Israelis are doing I'm simply asking the questions that. Others are asking and and trying to get a full perspective here what's going you know to me I don't understand why Israel ever gave back they the land that they took in this 67 war and got themselves in the situation."

" It better question well you -- before July going to comment on -- feel free to comment on that consul general the you know the surrender Atlanta that you want legitimate if."

" Greg Brown because we do believe. That not only interminable. Agreeing you know what you know getting to peace but in terms of the future. All of Israel's that we have to separate this land between Jordan and the -- between. Palestinians and Israelis. In order to keep in Israel as ordinance for the Jewish people out of democracy we didn't believe god -- because we wanted to give peace a chance. They're but eventually will learn the -- that unilateral withdrawal will not work we have to. Five and another former where we -- empowering the moderates. Palestinians who accept a right to exist. I would like to -- in peace and security -- Israel alongside Israel. And that's what we're doing move right now I mean now the orient spoke to their efforts because of the -- Elections should be elections in Israel. That are coming in February 10 and that they am today and the problems in the put you know so between Hamas. And aid and with a bus but we are hoping eventually to keep all the within negotiate options to achieve. An agreement where we will be able to me in peace would never rate but it -- but it's quite clear. That he's not the we could not achieve that we come out because they don't accept our right to exist. They don't accept any useful Obama and we then it's very much -- zero sum game we have to wean. And that's what we're trying to do right now."

" Let's go to Mike calling from New Hampshire Mike you're on the with the consul general mr. nod up to --"

" Yes -- and yet I. I haven't -- support of Israel. Red -- just did this how uptight or via the people that already have my feet are no mood over there it is. Or Israel ordered it to Israel. Among. Any big you know it."

" Well I had a gallery questions -- they're fighting the war they're they're going in trying to force my hand of Hamas to stop sentinel rockets in."

" Haven't produced clustered in a -- because boxes idea it's idea that they hate people hate Israel did not accept. Be. That I'd give it in who has the right to access. And it's an idea it's not a reality and real definitely the right except. Boat load --"

" But -- this is this is Tom -- he'll let me jump -- it beyond an idea Israel is actually suffering the firing of hundreds -- of the rockets are out of new rockets that -- an idea."

" Well we'll address those -- because generate billions and what would we know that we eventually cannot. Winning against guide to news just by -- victory. Effort. We know that the only way that those and ideological. Attendance is. Are going to be eliminated in the body and -- Muster and motorists are the most moderate Palestinians. We are not trying to. You don't change encouraging. By military force because we know that this is not possible which we're trying to do. -- to get quiet and called for our citizens which would do whatever. You know all every country in the world would do. We hope that eventually the Palestinian the border but it can we get the message that -- in the difference between the West Bank. That is starting to bring where of their last Christmas celebrations in that place and we're the best and that problem going to try to. Because -- never but opinions we can read -- work to empower them to help the economy to give them political horizon and we hope that eventually. -- an -- themselves. -- illuminate those ideological. Radical extremists. And they will understand that their future is not would come out but with a moderate but opinion."

" 6176. -- 7266686. -- Israeli consul general not dock to Mir is with us on WRKO it's Tom and talk. Kevin who -- over and you're next good morning."

" Good morning or you consulate general. The very group good morning and think where were will be up to for the support the -- getting in America. -- that to hear you. You don't in my opinion. We're talking about the moderate people that will come to peace negotiation remember amassed wonders. Election in a democratic. Way for a quick wrecked. Well -- wrong."

" Majority in parliament but they did not but the -- force. They -- followers okay. Now we're talking -- martyrs that might wanna come to. Peace and what not but if you'll often -- and moderate -- his child blown up by what do you miss out. I think you just lost the moderate did you. Well I think that eventually you know people who understand. I'm it would during the fighting -- emotions are very high and people don't see that very rationally and I I I can understand that. But I think at the end of the day people and understand that it will -- it was not targeting civilians and that the dead civilians. Bill the blamed for the -- civilians do -- Hamas and eventually Palestinians will understand. That if we want to live in peace if they want the children to -- To go to education that you you know become our -- it would then they have to support the moderate but -- not coma. We are not targeting civilians and I do hope that that they end of the day and opinions would realize that."

" Our guest is the consul general for Israel mr. -- to media and he is taking your calls we are going to take a short reckons that with the consul general in Europe calls here and AM 680 WRKO."