Pat and Bay Buchanan 9-11-08

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" Do you feel any safer today seven years after 9/11."

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" If -- if that's. Pet a a guy can't buy a thrill as well bill which. Anyway Pat Buchanan is with us here appreciated come though every step it's got another appearance at Ed MSNBC. About 430 but he came over to join us in. You know -- ran for president couple times he is prolific author's most recent book it's Churchill. Hitler in the un necessary war and a pebble part of by the illegal immigration but first I want to ask you about -- Halen in this this new disease that. Fortunately I'm glad that it's not infectious because that might get a in my pick it up for you that's called anyone's arrangement syndrome PBS it seems to work seems to be particularly. Virulent. Hopefully coveted MSNBC and the real problem with -- I'll put up its -- already claimed to -- them and hasn't put up. Everybody's that -- everybody knew yesterday inoculated. They're. It really is some."

" That whole well -- left ring the Democratic Party and and of course a lot of our folks over at MSNBC -- ago worked -- the clocks are there after you know there that is the big issue I think she's driven home alone. The left on -- really rocked him off the tee off their heels well huge popularity. And her personality in the fact that that she's Karen in the cage -- up up up up up. He's going to carry grandpa over the finish line -- You know -- right they've been dragged you into this fight and be they they said that they said that she wore a 88 Buchanan campaign button and -- Bob -- the congressman purporting to -- from -- who's really from Maryland -- he went nuts on this when Nazis -- resolution in which she supported a Nazi -- Up -- well yeah there's -- our personal congressman -- at the end like theater -- votes down Palm Beach county which -- but she -- a horse person right she -- well I think -- what you did was. You know I won the Alaska caucuses in 96. That. But I never went to was still -- 96 but I did go out here in 99. When I was still a Republican and she came out happen had a big Buchanan. Pat button on Amber's mentioned in the AP Lemerre was so that was in the front row but -- I left the Republican Party in October. So she could have been forming in 2000 because -- well known about it there in 2000 it was in the reform party already. So while and and everything I've heard better for your smart people though are folks up there is it to. Is accused of phenomenal gallon may agree -- on some issues -- up. What about Eric I don't know what we can't we Kiev does seem to find out though if she's got in the is it any positions stated on the illegal immigration. No I haven't either and I haven't seen her position on trade you know or illegal immigration in particular. But I don't think look she's a populist conservatives -- This is not a neo con in this is not the I mean this is not an open borders -- I can't believe and I would be doubtful that first dude was open borders her husband and -- so I don't know but my guess is she's up there being briefed by McCain's people now that's going to be a tough question for her. What her views are on illegal aliens and think I think they'll probably never come down the line just like the Republican platform where for border security first and we'll deal with a problem. President came to deal -- that after we get the borders secure my guess is that's the kind of pro -- answered the going to give in this election. Which is unfortunate because I think if usually -- McCain yeah. I think he'll make some effort to the border but his heart really is an amnesty guy he's a global list but I think I -- what she could win this form if you go down to gene knows. In Philadelphia a good -- place and -- on those Philly cheese steak and we've been persecuted because at least it Gingrich. And they're torn to bits but the whole city and and she's a little -- selling those bumper stickers yeah us that it's I think it's the -- is legal costs and there's a -- you take a little bus -- Bartlett as mayor Barr -- as -- run and for that congressional seat yeah he was here he was here actually two years ago -- think of unless here and and Chris -- Chris Matthews who knows some that Pennsylvania said he thinks he's going to win. But he's a Republican candidate go up just embraced god the signal goes out of the country that will help you enormously in Pennsylvania and all populist conservatives in this country. This is a policing issue why they don't just grab it and say you'll be worked were tougher on borders and tougher on these things and then Obama I don't know but the bottom line maybe you're right how we didn't -- he's got mine coming back with the McCain now the McCain amnesty. He yeah I I would think so I mean I still think he's going to change might. How do you see if you if you had that if you had to call right now who would you say it was going to elect the president I think it's probably a he tossup right now but I think the Republican euphoria. Is really unjustified because in the state by state polls. Like I think chuck Todd who wish MSNBC and and he says if he breaks it all out and allocate all the states you come down to four that are true swing states. That are really up and that's Colorado Virginia Ohio and New Hampshire. The three biggest of those states are -- and the Republican thing she got to get them all. So McCain sort of got to draw to an inside straight and I think Obama's got to repair it McCain that draw Hewitt Obama wins. He he's he's. I'd still say he's the favorite I think I would say it's 6040 Obama right now. You know. Favorite right now but they're not handle it. And I had to -- loaded the bases and you're gonna debate she's no good -- any -- could really confused by this this Pailin and and he's not -- war -- huge debate. Which one Rick Warren that -- it to settle back sure all right oh yeah I -- right H chisel edge. And Obama's -- there wouldn't neglect begins as -- in urging. You know voices you know much above my pay grade and so all these answers he was seem like. You know he's he sounded to me like someone those guys and -- and -- second year when I was back in college seniors who didn't studio here. And they went into their oral exams and had read a book. And the look on her face when they were ask a question of arts and book they hadn't read that's exactly what Obama was here. Grizzled grandpa was Bruce Crispin had certitude and filters that ultimately doesn't want to really. Tell the American people what Israel. Feelings are a lot of these issues. He wants that to explain that vote in the Illinois State senate basically now in favor infanticide you have a newborn you know right newborn infant protection act and he opposes that right in his -- visual -- it's above my pay grade made out of and say what you know. If they don't want the -- why don't give him a chance to kill you tell us along with a fourth trimester abortion. -- affects. That's exactly right I do think -- would -- yourself -- he sets that's base that's exactly right that's that's mean there's a horn warning that protection act he said he opposed it was fighting it he said. Because he thought it would imperil roe V wade that they had this clause in there it is just doesn't affect roe V wade it's just about newborn in the post it again. And you notice -- it to a friend Tom was Fred Thompson one of them up there ripped him. It might even have been -- ripped -- that one but -- he's got a real problem in my column tomorrow it's about death last chance for life means is it yep. Four justices. Of the Supreme Court I think -- ready to overturn roe. And McCain if he's got the guts to just keep throwing one after another sort of Alito justice -- And don't settle for anything else there's a chance you could overturn roe V wade on the other hand. If they get -- if they Obama gets in there you know John Paul Stevens must be close to 100 guns. -- saying and he's ten tickets I don't I don't think you can and perform more there. Up up up up up up what I think he's going to -- nature's call retreat -- thing about the other thing about -- that the bill in the Illinois State senate is that's the scene bills passed what I 85 to 98 to zero -- west Barbara Boxer standing up and defending it in support. Supporting the deed restriction on that yeah. And demanding medical assistance. So he struggled left of people to go after every site that are in the it every liberal democratic senator in in Washington I think it passed unanimously in the house as well as the Senate that's exactly right. And you know even in this National Journal survey and it goes your point. He had a voting record that the National Journal system most left wing in the United States senate. You know and Bernie Sanders is a socialist. You know he's demanded a recount because your Obama out to the left him. So this is why the guy doesn't like you know we don't want to really explain what he means and I think he did say what. Men and."

" Felt he was talking there in San Francisco. Relax were bowlers folks at -- new element Bible until right -- Right up there are better and that's why they cling to their great -- was let's hope I was -- shuttle pad in a way that was a good break for him because it that no one released seriously accused him of being a Muslim after that could say about Muslims as they don't think they don't think people according to -- up up up up. After -- but perhaps he's not a Moslem religion and everybody what he said to George Stephanopoulos asked if -- noticed I -- stepped in and saved him. You think they've done that for -- if you drop that -- guys would just lit up. And then go on with that and -- right oh right exactly now we're -- case anybody -- children. 18774694322. What what about the the it would be we we're talking about the Colorado thing and it indeed visit visit the real atrocities that happened -- Colorado with -- involving an illegally we will talk more bout with the bottom with Tom Tancredo. But study it was the it was an illegal alien from Guatemala -- what 33 rested 2120. Times. Driving with a without a license without an inspection without insurance without even a license plate here -- This they didn't even bother to glut -- steel licensed like the book on the car. And and he he smashes into the some of America -- to American middle aged women and park. It's driving smashed their car into a Baskin Robbins where he where they they're dead the two women in the car it and then they their cars hurled into a Baskin Robbins ice cream shop in the kill three year old boy. An American citizen in this in that he runs away -- what was -- delighted to have a driver's license. Well parents Denver."

" And Colorado clearly there is gasket you got these tragedies long arrest records and can even deport them. No issue what we can't deport all twelve to twenty million that you can't deport people arrested like that when your hold nor do we do know they're not citizens. He got after she -- in front -- why can't you just put him in the cell. Until INS or somebody shows up and put some want a bus and cops and taken back to the border I guess just Qaeda to put on a voter playing. And -- back. And these countries don't take -- back and say look you don't exporting and United States and do you take these characters but if we find comin' back into this country we're gonna put tariffs on everything you show up here you know. It you have these."

" I can I can believe in California. That it at a guy like Gavin Newsom and me for for so many reasons the mayor of San Francisco but I he wants to run for governor I guess if Feinstein doesn't run he's tough he's probably the front runner drift to replace Schwarzenegger. This is a guy who's got this policy -- San Francisco you know about it with that who we have a that they they don't. They don't send juvenile criminals back so these people -- on that article on a crime wave that guy got killed by an illegal alien teenager. Killed three American citizens at a brokerage it's about a father and two of his sons used my name. That is he got it men now we're just read another story that they've they've started shipping them out to to San Bernardino in and so. And they they put him in this half White House and so guess what happens as soon as they turn off."

" The lights that halfway house during the next morning halfway house. But they had -- you know the the true numbers right dissident tragic the disgusting frontiers it is the American people are up in arms about that they rose up. And they knock down that amnesty to McCain. And Hillary and bush and Kennedy and Obama all supported. Comparison hottest issues. There is up up up up up. That and and now -- in and now no one's talking about it it could win the race for the Republican Party they would simply take the populist conservative position. You know how when -- admired my book -- before on day of reckoning and state of emergency. Means African Americans and one of them groups in this country. Who are most determined that the you know the borders be protected and we don't have another wave last week because these folks are living side by side and they experience a lot of crime. Problems related to problems and that people compete with them for jobs -- the Republican Party or someone doesn't do it I don't know that the third candidates are going after this Bob Barr no I don't think he's gonna show me this is why me why -- open this sovereignty. Frankly and and in the lost jobs. This is a great issue to populist issues and my guess is down deep as I say you know. The first dude I'm sure believes this stuff if even if there apparently and --"

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" I you go about it Jennifer BI gotta be all right that morning go. I thought that the belly I always -- guys just in the I'd get up every morning and that's what Keith Olbermann delete that debate -- up every -- the thick black. But a pile up I think I'd heard -- got -- that morning -- I got -- like pop up -- that debate got out Michael backed Tibet. I looked like so you must have a great job pops up. That I think the no. I'm retired. I'm Robert and I ever been -- but -- three -- I don't think I want to. The bottom of the -- but how good how. -- all the time. But I that in these agents suspected of delegates of the watched. -- like -- that Olbermann up toward their ratings are going not get all the people like that but what that these have been paying. I."

" It's amazing how many people say this path that there watching MSNBC just does what it's like a -- become a wrestling match. -- is -- our ratings were up but. Well we just got word it was going to be a little change after the convention -- I was called by the authorities say they used to have an occasional. The occasional change in command to -- code and you know a vivid in the system where the belong to a parking lot of Logan Airport to have to find out when -- ultra David Gregory is going to be -- in the -- the I guess the debates and things like now. -- David Gregory the -- that that we're not going after marcos' here it will we've just been accused of going after that's just not the media's that's I didn't sleep that statement now. Both Connecticut and I punch -- that I didn't she gave Greg because he's going to do it tonight frank these two in the 9/11 hosting I think I'm when I'm on. And he's altered your own road to the -- which someone earlier tonight early years and 187746941. Club to -- it's up in the morning to watch job telling did you eat what I. I tell people you know at at night -- love -- you know that but I can take -- I quit I quit and they're gone now I couldn't take -- you know my head was just like it was about -- flow -- would just. It. I I get my stuff for news busters got caught -- they they take all the tapes in the most outrageous statements that put up in the in the I don't have to go through all dressed up like I could just I can go there to -- my bike fixed. We're out of Bosnia it was a very exciting moment interpreter when. -- Okay that's the verdict -- thanks for the call -- what they've sort of and force for the still laugh and -- a -- and -- clips that they will have to but he still laughing at it communicative mr."

" BC mom is no I was wondering why was on good morning Joe when it was announced on and I know I've known of pale and very much. And they were all surprised and said it was the biggest rolled the dice in American presidential history. But it turned out to be just a startling success and incredible success you know it shows you how is look. A populist conservatism. Is not you know is not narrowly confined at all here's again everything you read about it. There without funding boost shoot it wolves and get the polar bears typically. Is for. Up -- athletic. He's an additional electricity unless there are below him a -- mom and -- up -- she did this thing on the north slope. But it Wilshire district would restore a great job describe another you know they bring it down -- could get the gas we built a pipeline. And then had a clip or being checked out on an M sixteen -- came -- all right and I think this is -- hot ticket and on the other hand you have Nancy Pelosi who's who was repeatedly telling what's it Tom Brokaw I believe that that. Natural gas was not a fossil fuel. I thought I mean is there is there a slight disconnect here between the the Washington San Francisco Democrats stepped up and the oil industry and they don't have to deal with this they don't have to -- I just braver. Get through the next day a week I mean you gotta give grips -- my you know on the big -- programs either -- McLean but I got to give him credit for making all this I'm -- I should -- should I -- petitions like you know -- got a -- It's like campfire and and showed -- two years old farm back to share options find these next sixteen. An F sixteen under the golden gate bridge up if it works headed."

" Well that's right I were. And look who's here -- just as -- said it was boneless -- and Dylan -- on the -- and now -- on the -- One point seven I think a couple more calls here for pat before he's got to leave Josh you're next with how we are going to judge and Kathy Gannon. Yes this is going to birdies guys Bernie Sanders guys okay."

" Mr. Buchanan. You know Republicans think that they're blocking not cheap labor so much depends convince the Republican White House to build a 700 mile span. I'm a 2000 mile border to try to thinking about that they're actually doing nothing but cheap labor. -- every time."

" Well it's you know I I agree -- to this extent that. That they're only doing what they have to do what they're driven to do with this seven or 800 mile fence. Big business corporate America no doubt once as much it's cheap and plentiful labor in the United States they can get. And the ability to move their factories out of the United States to China and places where labor is cheap there's no doubt about them but to churches -- in on it is well there's all -- Foundations -- Church I'm Catholic Church right now there cardinal -- they're great outdoor. And -- he is so bad and so many ways we wanted to get to the that the well you guys gotten. Okay you travel you -- cardinal lost you work -- that's not just the thought that thank that's what I'm saying. Always got a lot they answer -- he hasn't been basically. Britain -- private jet back to the Vatican where there's no statute of limitations now -- George Herbert. You know but that's true there's all manner forces. For whom this is a good thing the trouble is it's it's the into the country happily I mean I think the melting pot can work if you give it time. Education figures -- going to."

" 125 million more folks here about 2050. Do you July of that many what does it mean to the country. You got no at new cultural core to the country. --"

" We're waiting we're waiting we got some buttons to the take build that there are right there you'd pick a -- with you can you imagine no. Back in 92 when my Sister -- who will be on here in a minute recess. Run in my campaign I was in California. And I always argued for seventy miles of fence along the seven main crossing point just ten miles of each one so that folks at least have to go go around the road to the desert. And I was compared by Newt Gingrich to David duke. That now Hillary was for an 800 mile fence. Times change I just you know I still remember -- seven years ago today I think it myself this is horrible and we gotta do something by thought there if there's a silver lining people are finally wake up from illegal immigration because here it is seven years later and they fall back asleep again we're discussing of those nineteen or seventeen guys in the nineteen down said what sixty some drivers' licenses among them yet. I D to walk -- on those planes right. Right ask you might you what I couldn't get used to have to driver's licenses I can't get I can give us. Usually I'm stopped him and shaken down question but you can even understand it I -- help in America can."

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" And no one way to reject parents were very loudly speak -- in Japanese. That this airport Gelman where everybody should get them and stuff like that. To get on an aircraft I don't know our idea I don't know I don't know either I just -- just I think these elections wanted to you know. Of one of these years. The crazy Democrat whether its name core carrier or -- is going to win then there's going to be a real problem -- Well I think -- I think I do think of Obama wins. They will go for the quad. Two for moderate amnesty for sure but I do think this I think the country Ebola. Well let's start -- younger Republicans of the Pailin variety in 22 and I think through your real backlash early because I don't look. I mean Obama it's a nice guy personally and I don't dislike him at all but his feet is left is footage deep in the left. That's naturally where he was that he's trying to do good imitation of the mainstream Jack Kennedy Democrat. And it's not been very successful now it's above his."

" great. Exactly what Jack Kennedy a Democrat -- I know you gotta run here I really appreciate your being with us here in Washington that title I always enjoy college title -- new book is Churchill. Hitler and the unnecessary war -- from some -- agree. You guys haven't figured -- Maryland deputy entered the body Maryland where you live in this not the pop up. -- a -- quickly eroded to have me here. I don't title the I just hope he has to pay that they his tax rate now the same review I have to pay our property taxes four. You -- homestead exemption for blacks. -- 18774694322. Thanks a lot pat thank you right back with baby candidate just a moment we're broadcasting live from hold their feet to the fire here in Washington DC 18774694322. On how we are."

" We have every right. March peaceably. To got to get that government. Ought to ask me apart the American. 18774694322. We're down here at the annual. Conference about illegal aliens in the -- problem of the illegal immigration in the United States we're here we're broadcasting live from. Capitol Hill and DC. Will be down here all day we have you. -- lineup of guests and I think you know enjoy it and we'll take a lot of calls to 18774694322. The other title is hold their feet to the fire that's the name of the conference and national drive for immigration reform. Not supposedly big issue this year but I think it's almost boiling under the surface especially after. What kind of events have been happening in. Colorado and California and most recently but it has happens all the time every day every every state just about. Joining us now is of bay Buchanan she was the campaign manage is pat Buchanan's sister with just -- us. And I know I know you're going to be identified but he was just I never mind being identified with -- and I can't penalize you my other Brothers siblings. Had she was she was also the -- campaign manager for a Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo. Who was going to be joining us that this -- Your -- clear how bright world world -- to. And so it's it's good to have you here bay and I know you worked for a bit later on in that we had bet on yesterday and a great man yeah and didn't -- you know why I just gotta get the feeling talked to a yesterday on the show that that this. You know at this he's this destroyed his valet valedictory you know received just over for him president well it."

" you know you never know weeks many anyways just watch the politics of last year -- never say never in this business. I think there's no question he would have liked to been the vice president I think you've been very very strong vice presidential. A nominee for John McCain. But Sarah is now the national figure and and if assuming that she does well in this sound -- next couple months. She's going to be a national leader as they have Republican Party certainly the conservative wing. And that's an area that that -- is very strong and is well so we'll see what happened she may go back to Alaska and and they might be an opening here but down. Certainly. It's not didn't turn out like Mitt Romney hoped to win some of us who supported him when hoping he'd have a a more high a higher profile -- stage. The -- just."

" Coldest senator Bennett -- yourself no idea about a hundred I would expect. They're they're they're maybe there may be a set of opening in Utah I think that's about getting to."

" Israel and I really gonna Leone's so he doesn't arcs around the easiest target is the a Condo they show us north to -- and then he would win that walking away. You know that's good point I didn't even think about it I don't know that that's what he wants to do. But it but you know you never know what's going to happen of course and is Sarah becomes a vice president and states I think you'll see on the -- for eight years from now right but. But that doesn't necessarily have to happen here lots of things go wrong I think -- is is just. Q is terrific is the bottom line we asked conservatives. Haven't had. A lot from which to choose in the last 1520 years and now we've got two terrific people out there at least east. In that Romney entire panel so I'm delighted with his situation as it stands today."

" What happens and what happened to the anti immigration. The issue in the campaign this year I mean. You know people people will do care about this whenever and wherever I go you know people say keep talking about it -- don't don't don't give up. And yet that look look cool the two nominees are mean the Democrats can't expect much but John."

" he's he's half of the McCain it McCain Kennedy amnesty bill schori is but he backed into the nomination. He didn't win this by running as somebody who's strong and immigration he finished yet to flip on his position to some extent started making though they. Fence one of his issues that he would go back and and did he -- but the only way he won was by splitting the vote was this Huckabee and with some who also flipped on the issue. And Mitt Romney and so because he was able to split the conservatives he's able to slip through he did not win a majority in the Republican primary but I thought to that point. This issue cannot is not obviously nation in general election and because -- people atop the ticket or are our four -- have the same position in essence. But the key here is this look at the enormous frustration that was is clearly you can -- in this country immigration is one of the reasons that's happened. It's one of the causes for this anger across the electorate at Washington. And John McCain reaches out there to Alaska find somebody from the outside trying to reformer and there's this enormous excitement. Part of the reason for that is illegal immigration. It is what has stirred the pot to make people so angry with those in Washington that they would be so excited to at least have one of the four from outside."

" We don't know mortar position I -- that we pat and I were talking about this before he got there we don't know what her position is. Illegals -- mean you know he says first do his. Is obviously on our side effects but -- think the first dude they talked a deal there is."

" Fifth a fifth. Well you know. Egypt clearly her friends are friends we very much supporting her up there. It's not a main issue any ill in Alaska I've been up there coupled to conservative talk show host who raise it as an important issue."

" In an and I saw a poll showed 15% of the electorate considers him one of the top issues."

" But that's not it doesn't have the same kind of urgency as a dozen other states. Aunt Ann -- sold 48 for its stuff."

" But you know I think what you look at with Sarah is."

" She's very solid across the board this is an issue that hasn't been raised up there."

" I suspected her heart is with us but it should not say much in the general election as well she should not."

" 1877469432. To win here from the we're here at the national. Conference of radio talk show -- on the -- is subject of illegal immigration hold their feet to fire its call. Rob your next with Howie -- in bay Buchanan go ahead rob."

" I. Question comment here but I'd always get McCain Kennedy amnesty bill but it although he does -- pushes him you know. And I think my theory goes McCain did bush is bidding so that those behind this thing came to get Bush's support already. -- questions I think that's correct."

" Thank well you know McCain uses it was a champion for this bill he sat down and worked with Kennedy and allowed Kennedy to draft most of its staff to draft most of it I think. If you take a look at what half Condoleezza. Leon McCain is always been there this is nearly as many -- you -- need to cut a deal with George Bush -- exactly but -- tell you something. It seems to me if you look at. The situation out there McCain is no dominant. He knows he was flat next campaign was gone down the tubes very likely there was no energy excitement conservatives certainly we're not there form his base was not there. In what happened fringes Pailin a born please -- now. You can't tell me hasn't figured out that maybe this is the way to success maybe a little closer here. To what to grassroots want people who really are living day to day across the country -- represents the working men and women in this country. And if he does listener that I think you'll see in the first couple years at least he will not be pushing many amnesty just like. In learning from the mistakes of the clintons who went in there and went pushed all the liberal stuff that first year to almost got taken out. -- were just to a devastated in the off year elections and then went back and became much more conservative so just designed. If they learn anything from the Kennedy I think McCain may show up. In in start focusing on doing more conservative having much more conservative agenda in his first two years. 18774694322. Kevin you're next with how we card baby can go ahead Kevin."

" kind it just wanted to point out the North Carolina driver's license as a hologram. North America ought to. And environmental world net daily I was on the back of a driver's license."

" Guy I know that they've been one of the most liberal states idea that would. College down there you know and I had just I know they've been one of the most liberal states in the union even that Tennessee was liberal as well with Tennessee is cracked now since then they have so many problems with illegals being bused them. And that's you know what price you know it's it's it's indefensible but that they're that they know this some of these states know that they're giving drivers' licenses to illegal aliens here."

" He's clearly an essential to salvation and in those various that I think the people in the states can make a huge difference. I think they have led the charge of the once in a real heroes and heroines of this movement the last couple years and that's to going to have to do in North Carolina and elsewhere."

" Look what happened what Spitzer you know Spitzer got into the slowly warming up before before what happened here have I that's only illegal immigration but okay we get into trouble with the trooper gate thing you know with the S and the us senate Republicans -- I was lying in -- its recent G might basis fading away so I'm going to suck up to my base. Twice coming out free illegal lie aliens getting driver's licenses and that's what that was the first the first real dent in Hillary's armories when she got -- caught in the debate you know on the -- I'm gonna look at."

" Massachusetts would you give up there. A you know and they started talking about that instate tuition only that was. And in the legislatures but put it through and it was just hope when he could have I know his veto would be carried. But it didn't look good. You guys send -- I know you're champion out there and Massachusetts liberal Massachusetts the Democrats what an uproar over this in skinny Geist."

" And nothing about that now they have a liberal democratic governor and then you don't lopsided five to 16 to one majorities in the legislature they still what they're still -- taken up thank goodness -- absolutely forever but they are -- you know you know when you and pat we're talking of course very familiar with -- you go to break here yeah -- now it was all the other where would arbitrarily to stick around the whole time sure I have a long time only tonight okay. Thanks 18774694322. -- powered car."

" We as a people. As workers as migrant workers are needed for the economy of this in the sustainment of this site. Yeah."

" Not wryly if you look at the numbers should not really needed your morbid drain them than you are a NASA. We'll talk more about this Chris we got about that we have about a minute criticize how we car it with pat what did bay Buchanan excuse me. You -- Chris."

" We're going to prom with Chris Mike you're next with how we card bay Buchanan go ahead Mike."

" You know I'm no no I've kind of -- attack spare from these people's republic of doubt but your -- And I just wanted to tell everybody and remind everyone. There -- number governor describe nine elevenths. -- failure of understanding and a failure to communicate. Yeah on the verge of -- up -- that probably village just like his own backed government always got. I'm handicapped all -- a lot of -- Massachusetts."

" I don't know when it's over you know what this who wear. We're having some problems that's for sure. Happy see if you could find that might during the break where where the ball talks about 9/11 last year I'm Howie --"