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" 877469432218774694322. That's the toll free number feel like to join us here this afternoon 18774694322. If you would like to listen to the show even though. Many not many but that few of our stations will be leaving us early today for the Red Sox game it's which -- west coast. Game afternoon game. In day if you if you or your station departs and you want to keep listening to the show go on to the Internet how we cart dot com how we cart dot com. And click on the live audio streaming click on the live audio streaming you can listen to the entire show. On the Internet. And also what Howard cart dot com you can take part in our daily Internet poll question. The Howard -- was brought you by Jeff Carbone insurance called a commissioner today. 8663. Insured Jeff Carbone insurance call them today and save money on your auto insurance 866. Three insurer he's heard in the in the intro John Kerry describing something that that John that John McCain his good buddy that I wanted to run with amendment 2000 four's is vice presidential candidate. Saying that he tossed out huh. PB. Which you know doesn't doesn't offend me it's it's an old expression. But remember a couple of years ago when then governor Mitt Romney used the phrase tar baby. And he was pilloried for days. And for his racial. Insensitivity. Of using such is such a terrible tar."

" So I think John is trying to throw that big tar baby out there."

" This and just tar baby like Mitt Romney was talking about this here is a big tar baby."

" hard juvenile I guess you might say. You know an art. So. But you know what. Scoured the papers today and I did not see one single gallery of John Kerry liberal Democrat. The way. Mitt Romney conservative Republican was pilloried for using the same word. Without the modified air big. Isn't that a -- you know this is this is part of the real one of the recurring themes of the card show. Yeah viewer who are a liberal Democrat you can get away with stuff you could never going to -- with his Republican like visual era though lately about a before we go to the poll judged on another example. John Edwards in the love child did you see that story anywhere today other than in the national enquirer. Picked up by a couple of of Bob bloggers. Otherwise no mention whatsoever."

" This is the woman that he that he was supposedly supposedly knocked up she's given birth she's been living in chapel hill mob in the same type of neighborhood he's living in which I've never I don't even know what neighborhood that is -- and never move but the anything that. That mansion that size one I was living down there."

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" Much but listened. The thing is it appears that this is is Mickey cal said in slate magazine. Today. This is this may be the first story where there's a major scandal -- of takes -- would be presidential contender off the board. And because he's politically correct that the mainstream media is not even going to mention. If you rely on the New York Times ABC. CBS NBC. CNN the Boston Globe for you for your information you're never going to know about this or you'll never criminal. But but I digress. I digress from the John Edwards story with we're talking about the John Kerry using the media forays. -- baby. -- what is the poll question and one of the results thus far."

" Is the press giving John Kerry a sly. For using a term tar baby after -- trees in the same -- in 2006. Are the slide is putting it mildly. Yes obviously they're giving him -- slide. 93%. And seemed to detect a little bit of a double standard in media coverage sixties when Nicole yeah it's it's it's it's this the first time it's ever happened to. That is most ridiculous thing I ever heard. This star David you will Leo bargain. -- put to John Kerry quotes together they're trying very hard to make an issue where -- early as the ones. Okay now we have another story here to go to there's a huge you so."

" Some of the story in the papers this morning. About the this this woman there -- there was the there was a heart change yesterday in Boston in the afternoon sir real police chase. Involving two women locked in a high speed domestic dispute the passengers screaming for help up a car window is the driver. Perilously crisscross traffic on the southeast expressway. Nearly ended with the bullets flying too said one officer helps save the day. State police finally boxed in driver she and her house 421993. In Dorchester. This chase started in in Charleston out. And Drew their guns. Is she kept slamming her car into the issue -- had ever in an apparent bid to escape. That's when the passenger a quote on quote panic stricken 41 year old woman from East Boston who during the chase had been screaming for help now through -- sell her body across house. Calling how's her. Wife. It. It was only after windows it would troopers smashed out the windows of house par with their but -- and blast that are in the face with pepper spray that house surrendered her grip on the wheel and could safely be subdued. Police and witnesses said they -- picture in the paper -- great pictures -- mark perfectly great job for our newspaper -- and pictures there's a great picture of the cops with their guns drawn pointing at this this woman turns out to weigh 300 pounds and as and it doesn't 98 rap -- in -- a picture of the with a woman whose car she was she was -- and there's a cop on top of protecting and the woman is obviously terrified out of her mind. Now that's all preface to what happened in court today. That. Yes yes exactly so here so here is what happened. Today and -- guys in Italy have -- I don't think you about the story for me the the most recent story but the what what happened was. Then she goes into court today she her lawyer or court appointed lawyer is trying to get. Bail the judge refuses to give Bailey and holder on dangerousness hearing this 300 pound woman who -- who caused all this havoc on the expressway yesterday. In a lawyer. Gets up and says. Stop me if you've heard this one before the cops overreacted."

" She's Gordon even my eighty miles -- our. On the expressway. Eighty to ninety miles an hour the woman is screaming to be let out. She's landing she's she rammed at least one other car and the -- And the the the envelope her female court appointed attorney I EU -- higher pay in for. Says that says that the cops are overreacting. When I pick on you today. We're backing you up were tried to when he went 18774694322. Joining us now is -- she covered the story in The Herald today choose that the court this morning. Laura what what -- to give us exactly what the lawyers said the lawyer for the as a woman who who caused all this havoc yesterday."

" mentions something about it. You know that -- I understand there was some sort of change."

" And then some element chase it started on the it's added a woman's -- an album as they can bridge screaming for help hanging out the window right."

" Elicit any about the drive I 93 regularly now that's just any other day unsightly. But. Don't mind that I I mean I'd that I personally -- which is that the kids you know this would not only in birds may be."

" you know what I was thinking about that -- after read it on the on The Herald dot com this afternoon yeah what's the Lindbergh baby the killers of the Lindbergh baby only kill only were interest in killing the alerts kidnapping the Lindbergh baby this woman could've killed. I don't know how many people if she had the shock."

" It's truly frightening to think I mean if it's one she was once -- away from roll over and hitting out on how many innocent people really kudos to those cops. The -- in the way they --"

" Is that what what irritates me -- is that the now the cops are are being criticized I mean that you don't we all know cases where we think the cops over react that are you know an additional. You know they -- there always being second guessed but in this case they had no choice they had this they had to stop this woman before she she she really hurt somebody -- there. It did this this lawyer is is criticizing them."

" It's in -- the one of them that was on the scene -- described it to me was if the pepper spray had not worked. They were just gonna have to you know start firing they had no other choice because she was so intent on getting yourself out of that situation."

" Yes sure sure kept. The woman if you haven't seen the paper it's -- that was on the website to Boston Herald dot com. You can see that you could see the woman. Who was in the in the car in front over the -- the kept getting Graham she she -- the cops pulled her out of the car got a behind him bed that barricade. So that they you know in case something in case the bullets did start fly. And you know it's it's just I don't know it's just amazing."

" Well this and it gets even stranger because. The victim in this case to at an -- getting a little adequate thought to not quite a white yeah actually that's beyond that."

" She went on -- of this 300 pound woman who was -- basically kidnapped yesterday."

" Right -- that a couple for eight years. Apparently or allegedly started with an argument over money."

" Eight years how many how many -- how many pages is house rap sheet."

" that's actually one left and -- rap sheet that doesn't include the civil restraining orders."

" Nine a nine page rap sheet that's that's a lot of stuff three watch everything street walking on my our god."

" And now supposedly too according to the reports that the interpret filed. This rampage continued on after the brought it to the hospital said that they would strap her down she was screaming racial words -- Hospital staff. Saying things I. And based state Alec not repeat to earth and -- that -- But the started saying that the victim in this case was came to court today in the defending her. And you know hit a bandage on her once which -- visible marks all of our."

" Right -- you can't you see the blood in the in The Herald photos in the on the color photos on the website you can see there's there's that there were -- she has cuts all over RG cutter she's got her he her ahead their air in her hands and she's obviously weeping after she's been rescued from --"

" And they had to take her to the hospital so and I -- and it's on here we don't mark come problem. And she said from the police. And they asked -- she's accusing the police of brutalizing. Her girlfriend. According to her pistol whipping her."

" Pistol whipping all. Now. It's just I don't know how much you can do. Via blue and where the -- I assume that some of the cops were there at the right."

" I did not they might have been kind of plain clothes they did not see you any uniform."

" Yeah I didn't want to -- the cops think about what the cops thing now that they're being accused of overreacting. -- a popular media. I get a feeling quite confident in other situations and both."

" It's just irritating though it's irritating to me is a civilian government to have -- you know attacked like this have someone you don't think you that they could just play the play the police brutality card -- and get away with it."

" Well integrates sidelight to. To which you you know. We've all heard the on going argument about. With the which have police working details. Is a perfect example where you its state troopers nearby oddity in all. Right on scene left and were able to provide back up but who knows how that might help you know at the situation now."

" Police in Boston Police. Concerned citizen in Charlestown -- Boston Police about a -- from your story. This morning about a woman being battered in a moving car who appeared to be in danger and again you know. As as we were saying you know when -- when you're driving in he is in downtown Boston. You you don't call 911 for no reason I mean obviously this guy was whoever call was horrified by what he saw."

" No it in house attorney today she said that you know like. That -- they were having. It for whenever I can seek out someone might see that and thinks something else is going on there. I guess what this person. What is. Onion getting out of the car. Being hit by the car and how physically to branding her back into the car."

" Yeah that the older than me."

" Coming argument you've had over -- in your lifetime but does that seem to be an extreme."

" Boston Police want to house green 2000 Honda civic on this they can bridge heading southbound into the tip O'Neill tunnel and began to follow. State police were waiting on the other and joined by troopers who have been working construction detail on Columbia road. He got -- the officer continued house to house was going over eighty all lanes at one point she -- breaks Award to avoid hitting another car. She kicked up smoke from tires. And again. That oh no wasn't it wasn't that the Lundberg maybe it was just it was just a day at the beach you know I mean people got a people go into war you know take it easy this is just the domestic dispute. Point two nice people you know just one of Lomas in -- You know and and she's in now that accusing her of police brutality. Well associate the woman houses being held without bail right."

" Yet until have a dangerousness hearing on Monday to determine. I mean basically went -- it to return to the public. In the -- in in Internet and all of."

" Yahoo! I had over I think -- I think I could I -- made that decision today you'll you'll -- you're gonna stay in the behind. You know behind -- we don't have three strikes -- out Massachusetts but how about the about I don't know 607080. -- but that's OK so it's so the -- the cops are too worried about this but the the because the court appointed lawyer. Said that the cops -- basic."

" Her point was the cops overreacted. That's how -- Okay are -- British nautical expert it was not the yeah it was not Poland. That's a strange when the break up to after all these years you know that was that what was that like 75 years ago now. -- threat right. The day thank you -- of the Boston Herald for joining us one."

" 877469432218774694322. Puerto cops are getting nailed on this cut you just do you just -- so irritating you know when they do something right. You they should that they should get kudos and they and they you know in the did do something right that certainly permitted they prevented. Multiple fatalities probably for mobbed by stopping this woman about continuity. If and they take crap they take -- 418774694322. That the cops to the right thing or or should the -- just to set. All it's just a couple of nice nice women who were happen to be married to each other -- skull out of -- Oh yes I know it looked bad but. Or they're not married again they're in today inched. 18 says although the the other woman the other of the victim or the reputed victim now she's not a victim she -- she is taken now her fiance is name already that's kind of strangers -- one eights they've been partners 1877469432. Today your next without -- ahead Dave."

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" The one that's true yeah you're right I I don't think it's I don't think it's really easy to do 85 miles an hour come off as they -- bridge going into that tunnel anyway. That's what makes even more dangerous you know could you got that that steep drop. Least."

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" I know exactly Davis event that you come home that you come home that night you read -- you know eagle on the website you pick up the paper in the morning. That you see that the the personal ram -- Is her lawyer is now saying that the cops overreacted. But they -- that the patient particular out of the car will be just because she -- your vehicle a few -- tried to escape. Thanks for the call they've won 877469432. To hammer your next with -- cargo ahead hammer."

" We are -- for a moment -- it's okay. The fact that you're even dispatches that anyone even discussing the situation reckless driving recklessly impeachment. We're having -- else's product you. I'm -- new -- to New Hampshire. Down ineptitude and did you tolerate bad amongst yourself. There ain't fair come up this -- have a good time but -- don't bring it up here."

" Camera do you think I was planning to discuss this until I read this woman saying that say is that the female lawyer he is mad he hung up. I wasn't planning to talk about this until I read the lawyers say -- the cops overreacted basically I quit I could what was going to say except court most of the cops were defusing a dangerous situation. If it. -- a certificate --"

" It's work I think it's nice to talk about it to show that the cops really yet incredible job yet nobody got killed. Nobody even got hurt and they defused a dangerous person ramming cars money for it can bring it."

" this woman her name is Alexandra Craig she's the one who was whose car was -- yesterday she's from Quincy. In that she said that she had a guardian Angel was -- this -- canine unit cop. Who uphold her out of the car and then than in the make sure that she was safe got a behind the Jersey barriers so that. So that you wouldn't she she wouldn't be hit she would be menaced by this by this this monster anymore -- obtain there. Where. -- good question and while that's good."

" Well they they peppers later. But I you know that -- no it didn't would know they have that that's that's you see the picture. They pick up respirator in the that didn't work so they had their that's when they had the -- out because they know what they were going to go. 18774694322. There were try to get there for I guess first they took them but -- the village that everyone McCollum at the end that broke the windows out of that's why the windows are broken part in the pictures. And then -- that they peppers she still wouldn't get out she still wouldn't give up the keys turn off the ignition. So that that's when they pepper sprayed areas and that's still that work and and that's when they took out they're gods. But you know one thing. They -- yeah."

" Barbara your next with how -- cargo ahead Barbara. There Barbara. -- resort Allen you're next with how we cargo ahead Alan."

" How could she use -- I don't. Now are what are off the -- Out there. Yeah that. It was in any. And it. Yeah. I would and then all I."

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" And I -- Got a little -- hour period -- extraordinary if they've earlier but they've or right guy edit that populate -- up beer bottle nineteen year old Rodman hair. So good the other after the police would prosecute the guy whose art I had the beer -- Protect themselves are always taught that topple over which the obvious parallels to conceal. -- probably straining of these people here."

" Right -- there's a there's a case usually just happen in Boston yesterday this this guy was driving a car and -- estate optimistic option. I mean it's always driving a car you I think you've got a right to defend yourself right. So -- the grand jury declined to invite the cop but guess what they filed a civil lawsuit pursuing this -- millions of dollars in federal court in Boston."

" There's -- bill brought us I mean they're should be noted that they -- so first some of these things that means is that having. If you're just can't defend yourself -- or airplanes but haven't don't worry about a bunch of people coming out on or. These."

" All unit E -- I'll bet they you know all -- you don't now that you mention I had bought about this republic she does so. I'll bet she sues thanks for the call 1877. I mean the 300 pound woman. 18774694322. I don't want caller of the park because that you might sue me. I'm now -- car."

" Hey you weren't taken against yeah. It's. It's from the -- smashing the windows. Okay I realize I'm currently yeah."

" All I ask you do is look at the picture over."

" They get her out of the car --"

" She's pretty happy to be out of that car. Looks to me like. 18774694322. She's just sitting down shoes that are your face in her hands and -- there's blood all over arms. She's innocent. Sent the funny house said as she fled reporters after how's this the out of control woman -- in the Dorchester court she's a good person a good person. It's our story."

" Yeah rely on -- yet -- Pistol -- But that's not what house nine page history of arrests for violent crimes dating back 25 years suggests. In fact for a different -- of women collectively took out six restraining orders against between 1985. And 2003 records state. House public defender holly Clark today conceded her client and sent the funny house -- argued in a car in Charlestown. Right before house allegedly hit the highway where prosecutors estimated to be eighty and ninety miles an hour. And here's the key. Still Clark said the response. By Boston in steep police may have been too much for two women having a law offers spam act. This was not."

" Lindbergh baby Clark said. The majority high speed chases over the oh over the George Washington Bridge. Well they were pursuing -- kidnappers of the Lindbergh baby in New Jersey where their. The well high speed chase and again it's -- what did he had been any model teaser. Dusan -- get get or AM. While they were chasing the kidnappers to some cars got Alam yesterday. But at a high and high at a high rate of speed by this not another same cops overreacted. Mike you're next with how -- cargo ahead Mike."

" How it is two things to learn from this whole terrible terrible -- first thing never let you Y -- drive. That it and number through. When when that -- signed that agreement -- all the people -- from out of state to get married here yeah this is going to happen all the time just some of the going to change their mind on the way to the wedding chapel. And the other was going to try to jump the car and no one gonna say no you can't do this to me you can't do it estimate we're going."

" There's -- a lot more of this violence last I mean again I know what's -- mainly heterosexuals who do this kind of thing and -- and you know they're gay men that Dewitt who went. All of a sudden you have this -- yeah you had those that that horrible situation in South Boston where the a lesbian now burned down her lover's. Apartment the -- apartment burned on the three Decker kill with two kids now to have this I mean there's been a lot of strange stuff running in that in that community lately."

" How it just think if this was a male driving this car enough and they and they treat and he could he wasn't treating it like they treated. This wife this perpetrated there is that there women's groups would be outraged. It's going to be incident is seeing them come up what work now to protect this."

" It thank you know you know that's a good point to Mike and again -- this is a woman she is she's got a history. Dare I say it of domestic abuse. Right. Just because she's a woman. I hope she's treated equally as in the in the -- press and among the advocate groups."

" Based on the pitcher's -- I -- spots you would've been the husband."

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" How we had to get went -- looked upon this couple I mean I'd probably like the other day about way to be read which went -- I went job but it was just that the when I beat Clement that's. -- tomorrow --"

" We read your dragon your wife Baghdad as she was screaming -- today."

" Right. Better yet if you -- a -- it's it's achievable I guess -- do -- they are -- they got their relationship Matt Walsh."

" Because Patrice had a similar job she said oh how -- the 300 pound lady just as the this inhibition complex and brutalize."

" Because of course the distant ambition complex that's what the Arlington bats that's -- defending Jim mars LE. Right the state senator who wore who has now charged with a per -- seven women of course when he was arrested. In Lowell. -- the reply. When he was resident lol. Jim. Jim mars -- they says you know your name please and he said Martin Walsh. Who who by the way happens to be the state."

" Whoever is -- the state -- probably if not in the district very close to that very cool he represents the district very close to where the the actual -- pinch finally took place after the after they were able to watch subdue the 300 pound a terror. John your next with Howard."

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" They -- things that interest me about the story I mean obviously there is that -- ankle but they're registered at a -- register any."

" I shudder to think where those two would be registering for the effort for the wedding Wal-Mart. What though now wall how dare you say that about Wal-Mart I go to you I go I go to Wal-Mart Kamal had everybody goes to Wal-Mart. -- they gonna do much stranger place than Wal-Mart."

" 187746943. To do what do what irritates me about this is that the -- you have this woman I mean a complete set of -- mean a woman who. Who probably about judging by rap sheet should should have been behind bars -- long ago it in now. And now with the taxpayer. Paid lawyer. You higher pay we paid for the chase. We paid for hospital treatment. Now we're paying for a lawyer that will probably have to papers say to what to defend these cops differ from some. Frivolous civil lawsuit. It's ridiculous."

" The -- smashing the windows. They would try to stop a formal emptying the woman had slept over. Which we should have the value because your in the car. -- yourself tried to escape -- not yet again on a -- that means if you rams in a bridge you can possibly. What's. TV stardom on the bridge that just went down through the center there of the most congested part of the city in the in all the way through there entity is it to the congestion was coming to when and they were Dorchester. Yeah rely on our -- yeah."

" Michael your next with Howie -- go ahead Michael."

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" Yeah well I can't say -- for in favor police violence I can tell you Michael you know I look at some of the old pictures in The -- some days you know the the pictures from like the forties and fifties. And they will they'll arrest these guys in the in the old days. And then they'll they'll bring in the photographers like three hours later to take pictures album. If there at the station houses. In these guys are covered with blood they have they have black guys you know to us sometimes there you know there -- lips -- cut. And obviously the -- of work from all over again you don't that it I think it did have a -- I mean I'm again I'm Nazi and I'm in favor of it but it -- deterrent effect go to bank."

" Well able well I'm going to support the exit literary history in the -- and it worked out off the basics. -- could tell -- about."

" Thanks for the call Michael 187746943221. Hour car."