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Smokers7-1-08
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Smokers7-1-08

Published:Tue, 1 Jul 2008
Description:Smokers in Massachusetts now have to start digging a little deeper in their wallets. The Legislature has passed a $1 per pack increase in the cigarette tax. Governor Patrick has not signed it yet, but is expected to soon. Massachusetts State Rep. Vinny deMacedo about these capricious taxes.
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" I'm very sorry that this is distracted from the message of patriotism that does Senator Obama wants to put out but I want to make very clear that as a Democrat in this -- army officer. I fully respect Senator McCain and all others who serve."

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" Our banquet. 18774694322 that's what toll free number of the Howie -- show if you like to join us. I think also missing is someone that we thought might be our guest there wasn't -- set in stone at the kind of depend on whether the legislature was in session I wanted to I want to he may join us later Ron. Really the missing you know he's a Republican state representative from Plymouth and he also owns a convenience store so he is obviously rather -- closely following the developments on the new cigarette packs which was passed last night by the legislature and I I don't know -- it's been signed yet and two was in the law by the governor. But never fear folks they're going to make it retroactive. You ever noticed."

" Yeah ever notice now. They don't ever make a tax cut retro act that's only a tax increase its active. So today as of midnight yes. A they started charging an extra block. For cigarettes -- all smoke and by the way I think they also increase the cigarette tax in New Hampshire and Vermont. And it. What that's solid they wanted to rush because to get it it is to get the bill for the governor's desk with this retroactive provision that. Because they said well there's nowhere to run to you know New York raise -- taxes Q and a New York cheaper smokes. A New Hampshire you want to take New Hampshire and number and a month off the off the table but of course it's still. Much cheaper apparently -- so Republican rep was saying yesterday during the debate. That bit in in Massachusetts here. The New Hampshire figures for every 100 million dollars then that. Taxes are increased here here in Massachusetts New Hampshire benefits fifty million dollars because people just run away. And even -- New Hampshire bully was raised the cigarette packs 45 cents today."

" This Obama seen SO very. Very cool I think a lot of people find and sexy and I think even in today's America there's a sense -- there's something vaguely sexy about cigarettes you've got firing your hand."

" Is do we do seabees cool in the sense of K oh well well -- well. I don't think he's -- that's cool is cool cigarette cool is school of the the in menthol cigarette -- In the course the end regular filtered cigarette is still Marlboro 18 set city give us that the give us the numbers on the poll question before we go to a phone calls here well -- we have a little computer problems take a couple minutes are okay in her -- happens I understand 18774694322. Have you tried to buy a pack of smokes today what do you think of this and and you know that this is that this is the first day of the new fiscal year the that the cost of of parking illegally in the city of Boston has gone up in some cases to even double. Until this crap you know as saying well you know one you don't park in actual fire hydrant you know. Harkin in peony crosswalk UB OK but some of -- stuff. Drizzle more marginal but they're talking about like for instance the you know you know park with a full of the occur. Now what's it going to be like when they don't get around to shoveling Schmoll during the winter for 45 months. What's that what's it going to be like you get a ticket every day. But again -- if you want to talk about the the increase in the parking -- you can do so but rather part about the cigarettes increases have you have you run into this today. Did did you have any idea that this was coming you'd have your let's think it show. I mention that a few times and then won't we when the very exciting it's like pregame show knocked us off the air in Boston and complicate. We we talked about it for about a half hour. But if you were listening if you're listening OW CR and the Saturday -- plenty of talk about this tax coming up. Yes it's me calling us a little Betty just had to go vote okay -- so a rep emas auto will be with this very shortly. The the state -- kind of led the fight by the way. The you know a lot of the stuff breaks down on party line votes -- minutes all was crushing defeat and it it was somewhat -- party line vote yesterday but in the house it was 93 to 52. Nineteen Republicans voted against increasing the cigarette packs and -- they were joined by 33 Democrats but the most votes Leo the Republicans have got money at the tax measure and very very long time and I think some of those 33 your realized that. You know this is not a good thing to be doing just still a 20% of people in this commonwealth and across the nation smoked cigarettes for better -- for worse -- a lot of them want to quit all of us have quit. Millions of us of where we non profit is. But there's a vote coming up in -- November and it's to abolish the income tax in the state of Massachusetts and I would say that of they have the 20% of the population that smokes or members probably got worked over. Today and going forward that's -- that's a big that's a big hunk of the electorate that -- should be on the side of abolishing the income tax to teach these people last month Beacon Hill. 18774694322 -- your next with -- cargo ahead --"

" Picked up -- Eudora it. That while portrait -- are hot pot -- up the price way up urinating in the legislature left town what they'll kill between the -- The past dot org -- 73 million dollar tax -- sought sold out Connecticut this sort of a new name that."

" It -- kicked the ball kicked in today."

" Nobody Tai yet in what it's doing it is going just didn't have. -- of those are state miracle how why in the socialized that's."

" All that's what they say that's what the tax increases your forte you know to your -- when the pastor chuck they said. This way ever want to have to pay for their health insurance now let's say don't guess what we need it we need another 680000 today do you smokers -- what we just discovered that's the deadbeats here in the commonwealth you don't want to pay for everything."

" Yet the door dormant mania hours as a result they have got brains out they've got to repeal of the citizen. Petitions to put up the legislation -- by that helps but what about -- we're going to repeal would appear in Maine god I have got a body right about duster. But instead of about submitted -- Medigap policies are battling Netscape in the capital and the I'd."

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" When chuck I think the -- yeah -- again they ought to raise the gas tax abatement -- just blow away upon. -- you can bet that money will be earmarked doubled go to beautiful people that are over I'll go to just what they said it was and once the roads are all fixed that money that tax increase will be sunset that you could rely on it you can take that the good to the bank could put that your Social Security trust god it's all for that -- And it hits for the Kim your next with -- cargo ahead Kim."

" I -- and yet cigarette smoking is so bad for people I don't think CNN like Seagate DPP could be with you more Kim. I mean I don't have the -- I am seven years -- started smoking when I was sport cool. I have quit following year but that was my actually -- them that I raising the prices -- correct."

" We'll see this is the thing they they get to they they get to what tell you how data person you -- for smoking and that they're really trying to help you by picking your pocket. I mean it's a perfect thing for the beautiful people they get that they get to steal money from you and give you a lecture at the same time."

" And who appointed them attack."

" How much did you we don't smoke any more than you camp. Yes she quit yet."

" I quit after he at -- you know they work."

" Thanks for the call a cab 1877469432 duke who appointed him unfortunately we appointed him but he added this is the legislature of the best. And the governor the governor was only too eager to sign this bill and the law one -- it's funny though you know. They have this huge package of taxes. That they had in front of them in a conference committee the house version the Senate version they're trying to hash it out. You know who's going to which of the quorum or loopholes are going to be close which multinationals are going to be taken care of etc. et cetera. They they quit and come to a conclusion yesterday the only thing they could cut could come to a conclusion on -- that they want it to screw cigarette smokers. They'd by god wanted to get to cigarette and as I said last night. On the show. You're not pay it's not a one dollar. Increase -- a one dollar five cent increase because on top of the increase of one dollar in the state excise tax on a pack smoked when he cigarettes you're gonna have to pay. About 5% sales tax on the additional. One dollar. How Massachusetts is that folks -- paying a tax on attacks -- your next with how we cargo ahead doc."

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" Seven bucks a pack of smokes 35 cents per cigarette. Yes you know for smoke it's like --"

" What have a lost art that they get they get yet they get it governing now on will be --"

" Thanks Robert called doc 187746943 duke -- Paul you're next with our car what a bargain 7777 box. Wicker forties to be like 45 cents a North Carolina by a pack out of a machine. They were all over the student union. But -- yet the practically it's probably easier to get the medicinal marijuana in Chapel Hill that it is to get smokes. Paul your next but there was never that hard to get pot either you understand all your next with how we cargo at all."

" Yeah I did it can't replace moisture into the witness protection program of the holy -- show you know one recognize your voice now now."

" Let's go -- an -- sixty years old but thirty years that Hitler took rid it but -- threaten -- And I hate to be ought to -- semi trucks -- about seven years ago when they stopped couldn't spoken just brought this budget. And respect the camp I -- to destroy our friend. You know what they want for the -- 1232 -- let us for look at them are still has. He says I'm excited -- either don't look at I have to classic. Let's do it until -- like gun to Gorbachev -- and Rick -- really probably eight other data -- the difference. And then seven importance of them there we got all upset. Axis of spyware and other equipment -- And small lot."

" That's the way it always works is -- law and I'll bet he really felt right that night when he's when he realized it's what he thought he'd screwed you'd do that --"

" Up to reflect the Spirit of great point please call our office and the eat up that they were -- it's a bit side and noticed."

" Thanks thanks ball 18774694322. Everybody feels you know what it is and believe me there's of this more tax increase is -- when Barack Obama becomes president 18774694322 joining us now is our rep beneath the missy go. He's one of the Republicans who led the fight yesterday to what to stop this cigarette tax from going into effect. As -- the governor signed the bill yet -- of any."

" We don't know. We're not clear and apparently set the KNO I have to at Kelly just audit committee was in the paper today in the a whole bunch of people calling. To recharge it but don't we charge attacks and I've I've talked to the committee on taxation. We call department ready don't want happy answer and so and this is my point yesterday is how to we passed a bill. It's 7 o'clock last night that took effect at midnight tonight. And now the governor hasn't signed and no one knows it didn't affect not effective -- bring back an amendment would not shore and it's. This this is why you do this -- is he going to do it and obviously are supposed to anyway because we're going to lose thousands of but it was. Thousands -- business a million adult business that New Hampshire but -- he going to do it do it in a timely fashion so that the businesses know what to do."

" Yeah I know why I well from what I can tell everybody seems to have just going to have raised that they read the story in The Herald or they really have heard about it from near their home offices. If it if their change in they -- they they just automatically raise the prices today."

" And let -- maybe that may be the case but you know. With this uncertainty with the fact that it's going to be rich record the governor could be you know if if he had concern that you might decide to say. And you know what is because as a typical got to go to their -- with a ten you know just to give businesses the time to get deformed."

" From the war department -- 680000 dollars a no. The company -- how much how many illegal aliens could get -- instate tuition money. How many how many more handouts that we give to Biotech and you know I any nuggets could -- by that you forgot the Governor Patrick in the rest of his pal -- Ahmad beneath this like going to be the there's going to be any reprieve from the governor on this one."

" Well and again. I guess my question is then you know I'd I'd. Want to -- we know what should they do just that thousands of these small businesses don't get they want to comply with the law ever wants to comply would -- and -- happy with it. But they want to comply with the law and we need to directive and that was really the bigger point that was trying to make we can at the legislature can't. The gold followed you know passing laws that like we did three years ago that retroactively taxed people after -- all the laws. And then we retroactively tax them and people went crazy and then ultimately we changed the law back after the fact you realize how upset people our. And the of the same type of mentality it's -- I don't understand how we loose connection with these everyday in."

" How this in this is such a this is such a bad time to be -- the tax is because. I mean I I know what to cancel on the state but let's face it many people drive to new Hampshire at this time a year to get firecrackers. Right right. So they're gonna be -- they going to be won't go there anyway this is this is on the this is on the newscast this afternoon it's in the newspaper will not the globe but it's in The Herald. End it that's all over the radio and they just gonna say Jesus I'd better pick up some smokes while about their bide my fireworks -- my beer MI soft drinks with no one. No bottle bill deposit."

" And the and the difference in and taxes for uniforms from New Hampshire to Massachusetts -- its architect two dollar and fifty cent a pack difference. So even if he had 25 dollars a carton I mean there's going to be a lot of TV you're gonna. Out that immediate you know obviously you don't want to believe that but that's you know that is the case that the reality and -- syllables border communities you know. That are you know Lawrence and in. All the all along that than the northern border in the southern border are really going to get a purple small businesses that are trying to survive and as you know they gasoline business economic and anybody here it's own thing you know this talent in those cigarettes and now they gonna lose all that business is on the have a good capital Ali's little businesses --"

" What is it we're talking evading -- you know the -- rep for -- Plymouth and he he owns convenience store did you raise the did you raise the presence of smokes and your -- today."

" I haven't yet until I get direct vote counted my inventory so that I make sure that compound dec it would but I haven't written because I don't know what the governor is gonna do ultimately. I may end up having to eat whatever right that the -- sold but I don't you know I'm I'm people of raising them and then having to change and then having my Christmas -- well you know. I've bought X amount you charge me more in the -- to take effect."

" All this was another thing too they said the the it's at the cream the us senate chairman of taxation I guess she said during the debate in the Senate on the Senate side yesterday. That they were going to be charged the extra dollar on every bit of inventory that they have in the store and and I thought to myself. Wait a second -- have a hearing the state house on gasoline. And they should they were asking these -- in question with a big oil was Jack about the prices. And -- only they called -- price gouging and windfall profits when big oil when the accused big oil of doing it and they -- and big oil that -- going yet. And now they're admitting they do that they do it but there's and it's okay because it's for the children. What's the difference between getting getting screwed by big oil getting screwed by a big government."

" I know I'm an assist I'm surprised him and I -- I -- and I get into politics specifically because of frustration being a small business owner. And feeling like you know they didn't you know appreciate what these small businesses were doing trying to survive. And I this is just another example of you know. It -- to detection and again if state. Increase taxes they have you know they got the majority of votes. You gotta do it in a timely fashion so that people you know can prepare for this speak you know be up to date digital form from the department of revenue is no. It's that simple wobbly. What and I've been in business for quite awhile so I know I do it. They actually -- the -- before in the coded utility account and Hamid stick Richard had in stock times the dollar and then you have to send the check within twenty days. So they're very new businesses they'll do they have never done to stop this before. Who don't know what to do right now and their you know everybody's call what what you do when and I still don't have an answer have got an answer to the department of revenue from. Anyone here attack you know they committee on taxation nobody has the answer and it just."

" I guess you don't want me to give the address of your your convenience -- of people that get that this. -- price for the."

" You know especially effective if if I'm wrong and they do it that I'm going to have to come up to kick in the dollar difference on each pack so."

" But it's for the children -- of the mister Fazio you know you don't mind do what it's for commonwealth care this is another thing don't. I thought commonwealth care was all about everybody picked up their own tabs and now we find out there's not enough -- there's that there isn't any. There there there are people are pay of their own why."

" It is making you know it's it's adjusting its and the fact that cigarette in the -- smokers shouldn't feel bad because we just. We just gave 500 million dollar tax to businesses as well -- so we do want to lead you know just that cigarette smokers that you know of the commonwealth."

" By the way in a related development senator Jim zarroli has just been indicted for alleged sex assaults the week. Of the big news vote in the Senate they -- can you stay with us and take some calls -- aqua line. Okay we're going to take some calls for a first senator Arab representative -- he's the state rep -- plummet. And this is a bridge that it's the beginning of a brave new world for cigarette smokers in Massachusetts. You know it used to me yesterday at this time. We only had the seventeenth highest cigarette tax in America today. Certain number five and number five -- go to the top. It's may take awhile but we're going to be number wide. 1877469432 to -- now --"

" Join me on Friday July 11 as -- hit him. On the trolley. Could be a part of my campaign whistle stop like campaign for the radio Hall of Fame will be traveling around Boston."

" In any of the eastern standard 528 com having can more square we you can stay and watch the rest of my show. So join me on July 11 and help me get into the national radio Hall of Fame you can still vote online by going to the -- failed dot com remember you could trust me I'm not like the others and how -- car and I approve this message okay. 18774694322 by the we will talk more about this as we go along but marginally. Is now accused of -- a bug roping for women not true. That day."

" Then lol. It's the allegedly told his first victim the sex is sweet the -- you wanted and you want to go with me or she led him horror. Okay -- will have more on this as the afternoon progresses 187 more. But about a standing headlined city and state senator indicted. It's the ultimate that's the open that's the 18774694322 witnesses -- representative Eddie -- missy go he's the the the Republicans from Plymouth who war fought hard to try to stop this cigarette tax increase from going into effect at the last moment here. And we still don't know whether it's were pretty sure it's retroactive -- that the bill as passed with -- has a provision for being retroactive dozen --"

" Repeat question it the bill does have a provision and it is as was passed saying that it's retroactive to the new."

" It as a date certain which is July 1 yeah it to midnight on July July 1 so one would -- Expect that if you -- you know that would be the case but I would imagine that there are people same -- There you know to the governor that there is some real concern here that no one knows what to do -- should they tactician they're not taxed because he had confided that he have concerned about how quickly passed."

" Well he doesn't -- be concerned you know the answer to that question right is very optimist a hot. Witnesses rivers of -- the Placido if you -- questions about it if you had to pay the higher price if you plan to go to New Hampshire. Billiard next with Howie -- and represent the -- you know go ahead bill."

" Whoever got there yet are cute and go to convenience store are cucumber are. How would I want to come down on the back. I would still be opposed but I mean I all right the reality is is people -- hurt right now I mean across the border with its gasoline will cost. Home heating -- everything's possible -- siege can't keep going after people and making allies more more expensive and I think that's. I would have been some and I'm supportive of this regardless. And you know I I checked this is a broad based actually just because they don't commission as you know there's -- conflict commit its its its like if I pay income tax on the silly you know against an income tax. It's the same type of thing you know you know I did ME Church -- house counsel to make sure that does not you know that this is an initial conflict it's really a point highlights. The fact that we are doing something. On the DA at all. That takes effect at midnight doing an emergency preamble but it by law we have a ninety day window when a lot becomes to get past. Ford takes effect so the only we can circumvent that is to do an emergency preamble sort takes effect right away and."

" It's an emergency to raise the price to buy smokes by a block and then and then tack on the sales tax on top of that a -- five is what amounts to right."

" That's correct but of course you don't always an emergency US caught my attention the other night he's go to all the same all the fatal. I did I'd start something on Martha's Vineyard and happily Nantucket depict it in order to fund affordable housing and similar issues. They're going to start taxing real estate sale. I looked over a certain value that the proposal and it would have been wrong it would belong to -- state our -- that -- not a good idea that a."

" Bill you're lucky that -- you'll have a community that has already passed the CPA the community preservation act but a lot of places authority passed from -- open land right representative at prestigious foggy when bill's talking about a just a variation on that. Thanks for the call bill another bill you're next with Howie Carr and I row prisoner of Eddie Dee -- Plymouth go ahead bell."

" I -- I now one thing I want to point out these same idiot -- back smoking out of existence there don't mind label Ivan."

" Yeah that's funny thing about that visited bill that's actually a story from Holland that you could now they they and smoking in the cafes in it in Amsterdam. Unless you're spoken pot and I. Okay."

" Except that I mean that a lot of going to do brain damage and everything else. But boy you can't let up up all -- all."

" No you can't bill thanks for the call. 18774694322 Walt your -- with powered car Ed almost unique -- your next with Howie Carr. And representative -- Maceda go ahead Tonya."

" have yeah running to be indicted into the heart and I appreciate you wearing on the radio."

" on top of our own and run just that you don't let that out."

" Stay excuse me Tonya upstart. I'm sorry I didn't use one of the bad FCC."

" I have words valued at bat elaborate it is back okay. That I lose your vote yes."

" But I don't overlap into the boat and I asked my husband Peter about I don't know what I learned that the interface things like that."

" I'm very concerned when they raise taxes on -- Tonya I get very excited even if on the even if the taxes don't affect me directly."

" Well I just best fit Tonya or someone -- lightning bolt that beef from the sky. I just I just avoided thanks for the call Tanya while you're next with Howie Carr and a -- preserve that he be Maceda go ahead Walt."

" Look differently than other with a built legislature able 5% sales folks who would restore sales he told him to settle for that it's. I I I am not aware I'm I'm not aware specifically that it would just. We're -- now raising taxes corporation."

" Com while. But it's like he's best you know that they clearly just in this. You know trying to raise money from every every corner and it's just. I'm not I'm not surprised but it may be -- communication. That people understand that they figure it's actually it took -- Excise tax and that you pay tax on the excise tax that you pay 5% sales tax on the two adult if you won the exit."

" Until like when I was ten years ago they they they thought that that was school board that they did make Japan sales tax and it's the same with the blows you pay an IV and have the excise state excise tax so that's the reason you don't pay a sales tax. But I mean if if the charges sales tax on the cigarettes. The given that you know you know the the next generation of Jim margolies is gonna say one we have a sales tax on the on the boast of the excise tax on the Bose."

" It is very apply it was a very possible it's changing the argument here is is smoking education and I mean -- and that's that's the goal that's fine but this is really about revenue. Yeah that's that's he obviously misses about raising 170 million dollars and you know more or you know for more --"

" Hundred I I Q I couldn't believe when I saw those numbers last like 6680000 dollars a day that means that means that we sell in this commonwealth 680000 packs of cigarettes every day. Even even with you know it's down to 20% of the adult population are smokers down from what 50% forty years ago. It's amazing."

" It is it is obvious and again I'm not I'm not advocating smoking I think we almost smoking not but not good for you. I'm but -- the point at which you know how much you gonna go out you know continue after you know people. And and inspection is an economy that is is struggling the way it is has changed today you've read USA today. The stock market has dropped two point one trillion dollars just in the past quarter and one point four trillion dollar in just the month of June and keep people hurt."

" It was the first time the stock market has gone down and three successive quarters in thirty years."

" Did apparently that that -- was of the largest drop since the depression and it's just. And we've got to be doing all we can to encourage business but it discourages them it is to be here and try to help people people you know the sit across the board. Are strapped right now at every level and it's."

" They gotta be high five and themselves in New Hampshire to thank."

" Army because it is yeah. Quarter what is important is this is a huge won all four been."

" What should they they raise their taxes on cigarettes have a quarter today right didn't want -- your cohorts let's say that yesterday. I think they're raised a quarter right."

" You know I'm not sure that. I think his I think the argument was even if they did they would still be heroes because -- be so much so much cheaper and it would still make money and you know there's. Going to be you know to to suggest to people are gonna go crossed the fortitude to. To get those cigarettes. You know it on rational course there there are a lot of people can do that I'm I'm not advocating that I want to make it clear however that is that is going to be what ten."

" Marianne you're next with Howie Carr and I represent that he didn't see don't go ahead were --"

" I just con report on the spot and cultural right now. And I we have not yet in the carrier that upon each like area about."

" With the information about the raises the increase at the just. The other they say that the what are you're get one that your colleagues say that last night many that the pony express was -- pound -- If all okay that that's why you remember it. Thanks -- 18774694322 Joe you're next with Howie -- and many the mosquito state rep from Plymouth go ahead Joe."

" Bait our audience I don't -- won't like the -- of smokes that's what the prices already what is it. 688 back. That's more than a block away."

" Well to buck five you know the again they gotta pay a sales time how much was -- yesterday at thank."

" I don't know Wal-Mart a quarter are few days ago. I think what's probably happening is a lot of these businesses and especially large corporations that are going to make. You know I certain percentage markup on whatever the product is so if it goes up that percentage in of that extra adult and they go up. Whatever the percent not just the doll but whatever the percentages. And together so I I assume that that's possibly why that's happened I'm not you know I'm not defending it. And again it's analysts it is expensive lot of 688 I I would that you just say it's probably no more than five dollars in New Hampshire NAFTA concerned I'd I'd. Just think you got a little bit."

" Yet Joe what are you gonna go. What are you gonna do joke I -- you're gonna you --"

" I'm a golden most people my money again. Well -- know what and that's I have to tell if that's the case not a good that's a good result and the fact that it is going to make you quit I absolutely agree and that's part of which could it. Apple also about a -- important."

" Thanks for the call Joe 18 -- but what about the children DO. I forgot to ask you about the children they're counting on commonwealth care. Mark you're next with Howie Carr and the represent of -- Dee -- go ahead mark."

" arbiter of what the attorney. Did you -- aware of it of people -- how he wound up -- it's only people. He'd make it -- up here we are or aren't you bet Al -- I am immune Norwalk -- people."

" Me what you're saying is he's part of big tobacco. What he's may get more profit than -- it -- out. It thanks for the call mark -- your next logical after this when -- go ahead --"

" Probably I'll just calling you would reference that this secret -- Optical and how much gain and the net result. Always because it is intentions plain on going up that they are amount by about by the way have a retail -- in the Merrimack Valley. -- it's still going to be sixteen told it to seventy golf -- indifference the other thing it's."

" That's what difference is going to be fifteen to -- sort of buck fifty -- of the -- difference."

" that the right now there's so carton a marble I believe it's thirty adult part that you'll get that also -- have to forfeit if I don't. Now and it's going to be sixty dollars if he'd just could Jim small market and action to be sixty dollars. So it's 68 to 38 it's almost thirty Dole's attack."

" you raise your prices today are not."

" we get. All the yet -- on the other side or south of the border. We have an advantage should almost similar to two to any show where we get a lot of the a lot of our -- We -- we thought I was equaled about. -- academics -- that is -- think -- a -- a lot of -- To the interest are going to have really -- was up whether it's -- can you are a lot of go to between."

" I think senator to say in the EU on the debate in the other chambers said yesterday that -- they've done to sixty times I think the last ten years and and 49 or fifty of the cases where they've done that they've lost business so it's yeah you're right I mean that's the that's the historical precedent is -- the sales go down. And people cigarette smokers my great did their business to what -- a lower tax states will look what talk for about this is a goes like many we keep an. You don't have to come back on the Schobel would you let us know if you find out that the governor has signed that are it's going to be retroactive -- there's some kind of ruling from the department revenue."

" As soon as I as some of -- knows something and they -- we have a lot of people that are after my question is well so I sort of thing goes up and ultimately get it over to you -- to thank you."

" Right thanks log any 18774694322 up now car."

" Poland and poles and then I know. Yeah."

" they're trying to steal some more money from the 18774694322. They're going to give it to the commonwealth care and understand this from that point that you're raising the debate over and over again and shouldn't feel too bad it's."

" What is 6884 pack of smokes. At at Wal-Mart 688 billion only 20% of the people the adults in America smoking. 20% 60% of the adults in America. Our big fat bastards. -- batteries they want all around what are they what are we going to have the big Mac tax. You know when we're going to have the big Mac -- may be some -- but you look at the legislature looks like the the waiting room about liposuction clinic. Then I gonna be going after them selves they they know that be -- the pay that that 48 so to speak. It's it's ridiculous this this this bill has been passed the last minute. They they you know they don't know no one knows that the governor signed that no one knows of its retroactive. Everybody's airing except for if you were a mom and pop stores like the representatives everybody's hearing on the side of caution. And there are that they're passing on the -- price increase. It's a tax increase but again remember it's for the children and now car"

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