Barack Obama has come under fire 4-14-08

" And now all -- stunned forma colleagues cars show."

" It's I was taken aback. By the demeaning remarks senator Obama made about people in small town America. Senator Obama's remarks -- to their out of touch."

" Medium what is your usual bit maybe here that I chose my words Bradley. It's not the first time -- won't be evil acts for hire my opponents both of whom spent decades in Washington saying I'm out of touch -- haven't got through with the rhetoric. Look at the reality the most expensive car on how -- our little orange draft. Running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsman -- is how few value of the second -- you -- like she's Annie Oakley. Haven't learned about you know elections. On the duck -- other Sunday but a fixture on. You know better now how long endurance. -- has been our goal mama Howard -- WR."

" radio network. 187746 four theory to do with -- is now using the bitter -- fundraising appeal. 18774694322 that's the toll free number of them -- harsher if elected during this year. The Sefton every weekday afternoon if you like to listen to the in higher show. Underline and -- show you always do so go to war our web site -- dot com and click on live audio streaming even if we're. Pre empted for baseball later in the day on some of our affiliate Chico was listen on the Internet goals listen in the Boston area on the VCR and EM thirty. -- talk. And in this central New England it may thirty degrees 18774694322. At how we cart dot com we also have a whole question every day. Whipple a few by Jeff -- insurance all the commissioner today at 8663 injured Jeff Carbone insurance call them today NC money. When Euro insurance 8663 insure. See -- Wednesday's poll question and one of the results thus far that -- can still an issue now. It okay. Jim case says Howard we live an exciting time she can't count count the Clinton tag team out just yet. The real question is what's next for Hillary will she be visiting the NRA for a tour of the firearms exhibit. I don't think she's in in the immediate danger of getting the endorsement of the National Rifle Association I could be wrong but that'll fix all similar. Maybe she can ask for an audience with the Pope this week to discuss -- deep seated religious convictions I would not put out when pestered him. Not at all. By the way have one and fax here from Jerry from Chelsea thank god the Pope is coming to Boston thing on the Pope is coming to Boston thank god the Pope is not comfortable. I must agree with the -- Talk about -- TV that we would have to put up what have they if they if the Pope were actually here can you imagine that all huh. It was bad I remember seven I'm dating myself are members 79 it was bad enough then the there what are you want to do you want to cover the Pope. No you know -- treat me I'll just sit here in the office and I won't go up the common -- I'll just take. I'll take the I think the reports from all of the reporters who were cute enough to go -- the competency. That's what I did skips from Dover says KG this picture Barack and Kerry going to going in to get us one of them are hunting license to. Bill from Concord, New Hampshire. Why just this afternoon I dragged my bitter small town itself out to must do clean begun prayed to god when looking for someone who does not look exactly like me. At least he left out that we also will -- love NASCAR and try to keep our spouses barefoot and pregnant what clown."

" But yeah I think I mean I know that we're artists very very conscious thing. Where people -- you really ticket squandered -- and you don't go beyond your hard earned."

" You know your quadrant where your city's six shooter is. You know war yet -- wind is over here in your six shooters and they the other direction and Hillary Clinton's over there in the quarter with her a shotgun. That you had a troubling of all what near Scranton. This is a Bol blogs bury him on the Internet. Barack sounds like an anthropologist explaining some primitive tribe for psychiatrist talking about people of a mental handicap. He sounds like a guy who lives in any of those people world. The values and opinions of others are flushed down the toilet of relevance by being written off as. Bitterness."

" Clinging to guns I guess he's talking about members of the National Rifle Association and the other near 50% of American homes which contain a fire arm. Those who believe the second amendment is in fact that civil right are not being reasonable or displaying a love for freedom they are merely being better just like the people go to church. Not three weeks after lecturing the country on how he -- a devout Christian and how -- racist pastor is really a lot like his quote typical white person on quote grandmother Barack dismisses the religious zeal of others as bitterness. It's not faith it's my conviction its bitterness. Can you think of a similarly dismissive claimed by any politician at any other time in your life. This joker doesn't even allow others the presumption of religious sincerity. They cling to their religion not because they believe in Jesus Christ because they love got to their fellow meandered because they are bitter over a lack of jobs. Again -- consisted people except. His religious sincerity and then condemns untold millions of others as religious closers what an incredible double standard what an astounding brand of legalism. -- any equated America's rural Americans religious faith with racial bigotry. He said antipathy to people who warrant like them was another fruit of this bitter history. It is another breathtaking assumption an indictment claiming vast stretches of the American population races. Does he really believe that America's religious views or moral social failings that can be mediated like racial bigotry. Then he dismisses the entire illegal alien debate is another fruit of this bitterness rule of law be damned. And throws and America's this quiet over trade with China. Just for good measure. What he did was take most of the issues of conservative America family and faith. The second amendment trade imbalance and illegal immigration with some defamatory racial bigotry thrown in for good measure. And dismissed them all by defining them as the fruits of bitterness well Iraq says Bob library your full of crap. 18774694322 you have bigotry to people who are like you know in this quote proves that these people are better Barack they are Americans. We gonna get a better Russ sound that we about the sound cut yet we don't have it yet. We're going to give you the full sound that we found a better thanks to what moved from wall that forgiveness say via a link to a better sound cut over his it's speech in San Francisco earlier this month. 1877469432218774694322 you know there were sale last week on the Internet that the Clinton people have another bomb they're going to drop on Barack I wonder if this is that. Where they've got something even better this is pretty good. I gotta say it would have been even better if Bill Clinton had -- stock as a foot in his mouth about puzzle again on the Thursday night belliard -- with how we cargo ahead --"

" I out now that is not a picnic that it was all work. On Fox News you know last week the week before I don't like -- but -- it was either the O'Reilly Factor or -- it was kind of Obama. The budget document in 1996."

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" Okay that's the -- and that he indicated that he's in the band bam. Sale and possession of all and done the -- Alabama now last week that we -- large in Russia are about Obama -- here at our offices -- possible political and the two the great one if you get yen and put it helped you plan in place. We will be productive what do we want now whether it is."

" I don't know about that bill but what Ellison you're Yuri -- long time Hillary -- are you worried are you now more frightened of Barack than you are of Hillary."

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" Well from which he can -- and other individualistic blood wanted to but again. All Americans."

" I I -- typical white person who's filled with bitterness -- I confess I can hear it in your voice -- Thanks for the call 18774694322 John your next this so -- this week it was passing they had bumper -- legacy by Saturday morning I'm not better. Reverend Barbara stick to the justice typical white person. Actually sandy. That might be a good one for Bob Bork. -- think about it typical white person put just what I'm not better on one side and typical white person on the other side that's all you need. Be very simple. 18774694322 -- next with how we cargo ahead job realist that Bob -- that we got one finally we finally came up with one. I'd go ahead John."

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" Typical white person. Did you make that up at yeah I didn't tell you tell your white person that's on you know you can't dance --"

" I'm I'm not -- hunting like for them only -- one idea I don't doubt Ali. What's and what's not suggest this is the guy who thought fishing was part of his second amendment rights."

" I forgot about that he said that's right someone asked him about the second amendment where was that it was that and I award New Hampshire was in the early going right."

" But everybody says in the east -- that sort asked about the second amendments that would want to stop people from Beijing."

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" 18774694322 is not the first time -- won't be the last. -- your next with how we cargo ahead Donna."

" I grew up and militancy of pain and why along big fisherman hunter and private first and -- they like national all. It was like the biggest change the opening day at our. Well I grew up stick and he just his parents were -- Real -- caller area data data in all of it was only --"

" Well there's another part of me that's another one of his problems right I mean my thirteen year old kid could -- better than a third of he's used and the little balls like we have here right what was then it's."

" That's right they have the big balls and and he went to well of course and state liberal when -- and I won't. But."

" Hey Joe Paterno is Joe Paterno was still holding down fourth though right and he refused to appear with Barack Obama I think -- a week or so ago."

" I don't hit out three houses from where a -- act I'm really old 75 each name my senior year high. -- and say it's an assistant coach in college he could -- little town but -- I can't believe it's well. All other well into the app but but I got a kick out of -- its huge. For him that well and why have one that I I read a book. It's sad that Hillary's father got acting like we're all prepared -- on your watch -- honestly. Eli he said he thought what -- scholarship and states and it's come out -- state in no scholarships in the thirty."

" Don't don't you think they'll Donovan everybody who was us who you know dressed for one game at -- become a major football program as the years go by. They've become first first a scholarship player then. A starter. Then all conference or whatever Penn State is that an all American -- they get dressed that's just the way it is I mean that's that's what happens with it's needed it. It's just the the natural progression of human bragging. Thanks for the call -- 1877469432 to build your next with how we cargo I have bell."

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" We need that also wants paycheck away from -- or not but they'd better. I think it was -- the government the entire time. To add any sort of money or any -- Beijing battered like that it absolutely it's so that's exactly what what that'll."

" Yeah just words. Who do you who do you think it's a bigger snob I'm saying that the Barack Obama is a bigger -- and John Kerry what do I."

" I'd say in the eight on now I don't see how he -- Like that the B equating up -- want quick they have never had its in my book title only when all the apartments -- well that's been shot not heard round."

" Not bad bill thanks for the call 18774694322 Steve your next with how we cargo ahead stave."

" I kept that I I I occurred is latest response Hillary. Sounds like you know as much about I think it does about falling. -- or to what this guy and beer and shot and beer bar BE Leo Laporte comfortable. Superior creature like consult with more comfortable as the winds --"

" I you know that might that reminds me Steve of the day that this over the globe spotlight team reported this was a long long time ago they were doing an expose -- on Somerville City Hall. So they decided to -- mingle with the white boy after they finish their work so they want across the street 22. A bar like she was at Indiana last night. -- this -- so one of the one of the guys there is wearing a bow tie ins and -- to this as well you have Mac. Because looks around. I have the Dubin today on Barbara talks. And the part of us he's perplexed he's baffled and finally goes and yells out. -- anybody know what -- but bill -- heads. And I feel that's what that's would have been like with -- you're right -- only instead -- to do -- they -- be ordering now -- Chardonnay right."

" Now I got one more thing to say. Rural although not so it's not stupid things in mind that I think they only expect it would just walk abroad the White House with nobody ordered -- derided by George Washington needed -- plus the belt."

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" My dad took me up behind the cottage that my grandfather built. I'm a little lake called lake granola -- outsiders friend. They probably had issued when I was a little --"

" Running around talking about this is an insult to -- how if you value the second amendment you thought like she's Annie Oakley. But my involvement in elections. On the duck blind every Sunday but a -- You know. The politics being played by Hillary Clinton."

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" Well he's -- if it's approved it is that -- with five minutes for -- improve them. Approve them we trust and he he just wanted to know what we thought should be on the front and the back to what color they should be very important decision I said black I should I said black lettering on white. White teacher it's not know racial connotation is just summers' comments and the white is cooler than the -- that's. That's all -- was so these -- what you should be on back I thought for a moment and I think I I think on the front it should be I'm not better. And then on the when quotation marks in the on the back typical wipers typical -- so that you could be identified by what you. If you where if you wear the shirt the teacher -- theories typical of no I don't think so I think we run -- the -- as -- Barack Obama says typical white person -- I don't think -- I don't think we want to get it too divisive racial politics here we partial world Bob hope and opportunity. -- but we're hoping for an opportunity really you know you know animal with little while ago. 187746 she did say griddle that was I was making a joke I thought that -- that -- properly which was sheet that's what it's like she's gently and no. And -- warned that easily granola. How beautiful people is that. I'm a little lake called -- granola all they Grenoble. Was it wind or something that anyway. You like to get out of there how we car pole today go to how we card dot com how we cart dot com how we -- was brought you by Jeff Carbone."

" Insurance called a commissioner today at 866 three insured Jeff Carbone insurance call them today and save money on your auto insurance 866 three insure. City what does VO poll question what do results thus far John McCain since -- lowering can -- when -- nominations do you agree. No I don't think so 89% after it. India -- or just it's that's not moving much at all. Last forty minutes by the way there's the there's another aspect to this new poll American research group poll that came out of -- Pennsylvania today which last week. According to ARG they were of the two Democrats in Pennsylvania were running neck and neck 4545. Now they begin polling on Friday night when the story was first breaking Friday -- that -- Friday Saturday and yesterday. Weekend in other words and I Hillary is now ahead 57 to thirty cent -- the seventh of 37 point a twenty point lead. And apparently it's not just this it's alive a lot of it has to do with his he is elitist comments in San Francisco but it also has to do with the fact you know even reading for months now about how he's out fundraising Hillary some months to one. And then McCain five or six to one. -- got so much money he doesn't know what to do what it so we just pouring in at the Pennsylvania open to war get the knockout blow with the keystone state. And apparently he is he is that so much advertising that the people have begun to turn -- When he 3% of the Leo respondents in this poll. In Pennsylvania Democrats said that they were less likely to vote for him because they were sick of seeing all of his TV spots and I guess one of the things that they present as. That's all the spots are about him. The not about you know what he's going to do for what he's going to do for rubbed the bitter people and the -- in the typical white person's. They're about -- about what a wonderful guy he is what a beautiful person years. And it's just just cutting the wrong way 1877. Tell me about it having as a former resident of Cambridge Massachusetts at Somerville Massachusetts. This is that this is the way Harvard law. Graduates and students and professors where you could take my word on this one this is something I know where -- speak. 18774694322 Janet your next with allowing cargo ahead Janet."

" Only if it's a typical white person does that mean -- the typical black."

" where he he if you lead to even think that Jim that you worked your nearly guilty of hate crimes."

" No it just equal legal thinking about what they're like artists you know we're really made blue collar people. Because they've made that connection between. Businesses leaving the country in illegals with no jobs I mean -- people that'd be better and."

" But -- what does that tell you about him that he's run around the country -- we've got to do something about all these jobs leaving the country that he goes to -- speaks -- in front of the group of people were benefiting from free trade and tells them but only idiots are worried about this. -- it's like it's like their religion thing he's a total hypocrite on the religious thing joke he geeky as as the or the guy on the Internet Bob Weisberg said. This is he's he does this three weeks after his big speech about how he's a devout Christian. And then he comes and says he all their people are only devout Christians because their better. He eggs that is the war G and it that is the word. Thank you 18774694322 -- your next with allowing cargo ahead Joanne."

" I'm calling from my would be interest -- and you know what -- senate did on April 2 this year yes they've voted on in LB act seventeen point four. Take -- in the inner state compact on the national popular vote. And this law will make yet so that electoral votes will be given to other states. And we will not have any control. Over any of electoral votes in the state of Maine. We've just lost everything."

" why do they want to tamper with the electoral college I mean it I know that sometimes people have one without a majority of the popular votes by the way to twice that happened with Bill Clinton who didn't get a majority of popular votes. But hasn't it served us pretty darn well over the last 200 plus years."

" Absolutely and it's industry absolute disrespect our constitution and it has not been publicized. How badly at all today was the first -- I didn't see anything and -- and it was in the Portland press herald. And I was I am man from Osaka when I'm greatly appreciate him putting the -- and."

" it. Facial called Joey and 18774694322 Kevin you're next with how we cargo ahead Kevin."

" Alec and -- question it has been brought a power struggle and Mark and -- you know. Okay I -- the ordinance that -- long time ago but don't. Right sports that are just completely backfire you know good it's never all over it does get it -- out how it. -- even going to put up with that because it it out too good for that now."

" It is. This problem that he's back Kevin isn't the reason we've missed I think it's morbidly I think it's more that he's an elitist. Again I can't imagine John Kerry and I never thought I would say this I can imagine John Kerry saying what Barack Obama's."

" Like it you know I can't stand Hilary or trying Cary -- I would rather sit trick or do a lot of over Crockett just don't Yelp just. Or to bite at that you're here or out like I'd vote or didn't like no it was. If you black and out but are what invite. A -- war you know that it shall be you know now like he used to cook for everybody in and who's gonna all of."

" Well I don't know I mean I think the -- battles that will be whether or some of the moon maps will be anyway but in the get he's got a he's got a 1015 point lead in North Carolina which I guess that's the the large percentage of the electorate than on the democratic side it's -- down there. But you know he seems to beef he seems to be fading in these kind of states that he's going to need -- to win I mean it Democrat does and if a Democrat loses Pennsylvania that are going to be liked it. That's -- it's as simple as."

" Right in your fingers you know like it occurred not as Republicans but you know that's all race starting so early. -- really work. You know words that edge because I think it going to be addict after back up and talk -- It east -- just as I think it's becoming more more transparent that you open open about did you eat eat eat."

" He's got he's got a lead Kevin he's got more delegates than she does right now he's got more popular votes that's very important she's gotta get the lead and popular votes. And end -- perhaps most importantly he's got a lot more money that she us."

" Well that's true but I I -- critical way to the convention and you know like either -- are -- tickets -- aid altogether --"

" Well it's interesting I mean you know McCain is kind of crazy but he understands politics obviously he's been in politics ever since he got Natalie opened. And he he thinks she's still -- and I think that's a very interest the -- also -- see -- an easier time against her. That he would against him I mean I I I thought that was the case awhile back but I'm beginning to think that Iraq is really turning it to be turning at the damaged goods here. Every -- right every time he opens his mouth thanks for the call Kevin. Paul you're next with our cargo at all."

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" Yeah well I don't I don't know that his words in San Francisco I think he thought he was among friends he was among the fellow beautiful people. These guys these people are all millionaires they're from northern California there are never sure. It they -- yeah I think it's pretty clear it was shooting from the war. But I -- order. Yeah he his six shooter was a little off that day apparently went with his rhetoric. Which you know -- is Paul I mean he should've known that again in this day with tape recorders as small as they are and Q and everybody cell phone cameras. Yes you you can't shoot from the hip anymore."

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" is an explanation. You know what did you really believe how does he see the people here in this neighborhood throughout Pennsylvania Indiana. North Carolina other places in our country and I think that's what people are looking for some explanation. And he has simply not provide the."

" You know again. She easily. Major league -- your cell companies these issues you know -- chi chi has had. The National Rifle Association but a picture. He's he's got a point there but I mean this you know it's good that -- the sarcasm -- good idea I was appreciated could. Come back like that but it it really doesn't answer the question and again -- the the obvious. Conclusion the only conclusion he could from what he said was. That he he thinks that the that he is it's somewhat superior. The people who live in small amounts war were better and are clinging to their religion in the in the fact that he. He -- vote for the border France and now he says part of their businesses is is is against illegally aliens. He says part of their businesses opposition to free trade yet he runs around country campaigning it's NAFTA. He says the part of their part of their bitterness is clinging to widget yet yet he he wants to be consider a devout Christian and animated made a speech to that effect in a few weeks ago. You know how well is that elitist hypocrite. 18774694322 Adam your next without art or at that and."

" Yeah our area along however you. They're great show you first of all I think imagine a lot of it will don't drink about borrow anymore but like I know a lot of people don't like -- I think popular."

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" and it ghosting is at least she took a shot like dot. You know risky I mean it's kind of our strength of the kind of thing people like -- there on the rocks or you know like Teddy."

" again Adam you know you talk about better Amaechi is out of she's better but she's definitely desperate. Don't you think I mean if she or if you -- ahead in delegates in cruising to the nomination do you think should be taken downing shots of crown royal I -- still standing. And I have I don't care I don't care the fact that she grew up in Chicago that's the first old style she ever had a guarantee that."

" definitely and I got a bone to pick with a caller couple calls back the -- called -- stage you rent parents and relatives as they like ten years ago and yeah. It's side will wear red as red can be I was a part of young Republicans their parents stayed in we get a lot of things throughout were Republican they're Pennsylvania."

" I used to be other radio -- state college. -- know that's. Probably what you're there I think those are pretty small AM station I -- I can understand why you didn't did never you never caught media anyway."

" Thanks had a good time I got to tell you want our first time and I and I get lower what you play those some you know crowds are Teddy Kennedy that is so typical white person I get --"

" Orwell we're gonna try to keep on comin' but it you don't white person Menino has a bit now about those much lately Cassie. But it's you wear it but we're going to keep our eyes open woke -- catch him every now and then. Thanks for the call I guess what I think we're getting too near the election that's the thing he's he's up again in 2009 in May be someone is told them. You know maybe it's not a good thing that people throughout the mainland and and beyond a laughing at you every night for two -- three minutes six away."

" I -- 100% oppose it. Any contract but does not include random -- drug and alcohol testing."

" Dug testing Scott your next with how -- cargo ahead Scott. It is god. Mark your next with how we cargo ahead Mark."

" Mike felt like now -- we are talking about two weeks ago you're out in the quite in the McCain now wrapped up the site that he and and you'd get agreement -- you know I don't have to wait a week and they just keep digging themselves."

" I know I mean it's you know at the quote yogi it's never over till it's over but -- and a thirteen point lead in Florida at this at this point in the campaign always."

" Maybe come by body from ninety who -- 2000 out of out in principle nobody ran OK -- by. How much help guard our pick -- people every day oh look bad crowd and -- a Democrat who got. -- Democrat -- that level of the government the Gramm although our. And you know Wimbledon simplistic Democrat about the working people Republicans like about the and the united. I'm development economic god you know. That I would want."

" Well I mean now markets seems to be I mean. Hillary didn't do this to rock the rock this is a self inflicted --"

" But because you would -- darkest -- the wire out and said that you know. Like use that you know you can YE a little bit yeah you can exactly what are. Well -- property -- Ayman. Question that is like electoral -- I mean I I thought the government what. I'm wondering we're gonna put that you know -- Albright was you know."

" All you have to do audio do markets is perk up your -- and listened for the sound of an ambulance. They just drive the cab with a direction of that that we're here that ambulance siren. That's where John Edwards is thanks for the call Mark 18774694322 Scott your next without -- point cargo -- got."

" the car I think it was construing Barack Obama I think it's a populist and I think he's right on target. I think the main street had been abandoned for the ruthless tactics -- Well Wall Street are people are hurting industry has dried up leadership."

" What is segment but Scott key he is saying that's why they're better he's making it sound like -- there -- overreacting that they're taking out their frustrations. On enough free trade -- and I am on the other hand he is saying on the campaign trail when he's not -- this fat cat supporters behind closed doors in Marie and counting yours inferences co. He says he he agrees that that free trade is glad."

" Well -- I'd want to just say that's. I understand what he's trying to say an empathetic and give."

" What does he tried tell me what he's trying to decide."

" He's trying the -- in my opinion that main street. Is really hurting because the industry has dried up. It got Gary Indiana Youngstown Ohio -- plates and a doctorate carbon steel they went out of -- and they are hurting. And -- everything up thirty billion dollars or whatever bill."

" don't you think though that the reason that people in in the small towns in Pennsylvania and other states are our religious. And and the reason they like guns is because of the jobs disappearing. Come odd they are always been religious in Pennsylvania they've always like guns hunting. They've been they've been hunting -- does is since before the American revolution."

" But I think that he brought up a good point. To show how -- about small town America like top small white how to -- it's hurting in this country."

" I don't think that's how we met -- was that he was dismissive of of white town as you call that America thanks for the call Scott typical white person. Jonathan your next with how we cargo ahead Jonathan."

" I don't. I'm awe aerial I'm out there and it lands -- is how remote it is again."

" Well first thought oh that's always the mainstream media is image out of but I mean it -- so far the answer appears to be unlimited number of my elegance."

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" Right he can't blame this one on the minister -- you can't blame it on his wife he said that you're right."

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" That's going to hurt of coming down the stretch if he wins the nomination I think people seem to have picked up at a picture. It's kinda like the it's kind of like that when he four point -- And get the -- like that here. 1877469432 did not mention any Ortiz. And now we --"