Cell phones 1-23-08

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" 8774694322 it was a busy day today -- whose wise. Burgess the stock market in the the big big settlement in the release of the way the audio tapes but there was also a the state house today. Something we talked about last week the bill that though was restrict that -- that would restrict cell phone use in cars. Came back today. And the state House of Representatives passed a bill that would ban drivers from text messaging in using hand held phones. -- using hand held phones is more important text messaging by a vote of a 107 to 47. The measure which still faces a vote in the Senate we're fine violators hundred to 500 dollars the use of hands free technology would be allowed so drivers could still talk on cellphones as long as they heavier pieces. About a dozen bills were filed on the issue last year but they failed to gain traction on Beacon Hill and say this again this was a reaction to some bill but some seventeen year old girl instead of from -- bridge was killed in October Charlton winner car one off the road hit a tree as she drove to school seventeen. A seventeen year old girl gets killed in the rest of us have to give up our you know I've it was a I mean I'm sorry for the parents -- condolences et cetera but. I don't think that the you know seventeen year old girl gets killed probably hasn't driven Buffy but a few thousand miles if that. And the reader reaction is the band hand held cell phones for millions upon millions of Massachusetts drivers. Police believe text messaging may have been the blame for the accident because she received a message at 722 way M three minutes before the crash again I -- no problems we want to doorway was -- the with text messaging that's fine I don't text message right so that's okay do away with that. Don't domain -- by some new technology go anyway. The vote was a 107 the 47 the Republicans pretty much voted I don't or 400% but it was pretty close to 100% of it wasn't. But they're only twenty of them so was twenty Republicans say in 27 Democrats. And that we have the roll call is posted on our website at how we cart dot com who want to check out -- your salon voted on joining us now is a representative Jeff Perry he's a former police officer or Republican from the cape he's also an attorney Jeff what this this is this a fait accompli is this a done deal now."

" Are out they get -- done the always Eric growers around -- today that they may have become resistant. In the Senate because the provisions which -- part about it you want their charges. Yes I think mobile and now -- a third chart it get him moving violation and active the privilege of the insurance we we know."

" Only too well what -- charges."

" And you know I got a couple questions for you first called you the big winner today and it representative -- so eloquently that. -- insurance company exactly. Yet and yet to be a bit cynical -- minute you do -- the biggest donors art to campaign on beacon Ellis."

" What it would per chance be the auto insurance companies."

" Well according to be and yet -- guess according to. Latest statistic which -- it -- being 2006 rather. At stake or auto insurance company gave out over 64 million dollars through lobbyists on a canal."

" 64 million."

" Yeah that's certainly I think it was I was looking at before I can't I think -- January 7 and there's an -- if I'd the date picked up the left and 2000 and expect a lobbyist activity and quite coincidentally perhaps. And you might remember when the governor had its big inaugural ball and at the corporate sponsors yes. Well for other companies buying companies -- the built for that and four of them happened to be auto insurance company. Volley don't they don't cynical maybe am that they angry Republican minority member of but."

" has been angry motorists. Well I'll get you a Republican -- lawmakers dissident I mean what do ledges bigger regular role motorist."

" I don't know I don't think people have a bit appreciation or. It they haven't got a speeding ticket or -- carriage which help out but that they happen and it happened do because they're. There on the on extra six areas and it yeah. The average insurance bills they paid a bill follow around well on our -- somebody who might live all day in the Beacon Hill action -- and they -- yet experience -- about 1213 hundred by -- Aren't sure -- but -- surcharge they're going to pay a 172 part. And on top of the fine a year I'm -- ears so. Yeah I don't current -- it -- that does not representative state -- integrate governor of Florida does on the issue. You know -- that it was christmas today out at the top but the voted but it was written -- in --"

" But representative -- they they're doing it for the children. How many how many how many people said they were doing it for the children today."

" They they really didn't get into that -- alliance we have some good amendment rep a candlelight at the -- conservative. -- an -- an amendment which would have narrowed the bill only dealing with text messaging and working operated."

" What's wrong with that I mean this said the poster girl who who died in the in the accident Charlton she's seventeen years old when she was text messaging this issue you know this has nothing to deal with adults talking on the phone. -- why do you why are we being punished fur for something that -- that a teenager who was text messaging which most adults don't build certainly don't do when their -- Are you -- this is that this is not a power or rock -- flight."

" And yet there are kind of on a -- good. Italy is it really felt good dog sure -- to be able all the new -- not by ethnic. -- get it back to the issue of our attempt to amend the bill would make it. A little less danger -- the -- We didn't we were able to get -- not the majority RE or whomever. I use their procedural vote and we were able to get a clean vote on either well I think it's -- operated. Or eliminate view lot -- They broke amended the amendment by rep apparently that and so hitting it straight up or down vote in the city. Although that it is of the process that you know we loyal Republicans keep talking about the only had nineteen members. And a lot the past and get in -- but our best effort."

" The US that you had you know. I again it wasn't nearly a majority but you have you must've had close to thirty Democrats who were what you when the fight in May -- and yet they yet they they over were they yet they refused to allow their own their own people. Two 22 offer any amendments that might of you know lessen the bitter taste of this thing."

" Well ager her own conclusions that -- my -- do what Strobl what they were eighteen or nineteen amendment. Wild and we're ready to go on and and Ali you look for the roll call -- the Marlins need to find out how many -- clean well. Think about it I think I think you've given the opportunity. -- some of the folks that I thought do Larry usually. They even minded moderate. Give -- opportunity to narrow the bill. You'd only be junior operated and only -- thing I think that they would have voted -- and -- and comfortable that they did something. But and they weren't given the opportunity that they felt like they wanted to go along the bill. All along with old bill and I -- the -- little. A little more apartment that's been you know narrowed the bill that we desperately take out the -- our product that."

" You don't have a surcharge and it what's the point for the insurance companies I think I think Fagan representative Jim Fagan for Democrat of plot was onto something here that. They the the main. The the main proponents behind this bill behind the scenes certainly again they put the they put the poster children up there are you know to say it's for the children but. The main proponents were the were the auto insurance companies."

" Yeah yeah you can fit any situation you know I can pick up but it spirit aren't find some tragedy. And decide that we need to make government bigger and more interest into our -- and make a lot it would be a never ending process. Unfortunately appear to be a never ending process and at the end of the -- we don't really the only thing I'll always get that bill. It will make it up all a lot of money for that but the insurance company is surcharges and we'll generate some revenue. Or the probable for the big -- and the dot clog up the -- more because you know people hire attorney like white -- not quite. A the -- the hundred dollar 500 dollar ticket particulate to protect it driving Iraq and fight the 178 Udall I expect there --"

" Right you know I think the statue limitations on some pretty serious crimes state crimes is five years. But yet even publishing a total of patience runs out on -- on a serious crime in five years. You still have to pay. For running a stop sign or in this case may be in the near future having a hand held cell phone you have to pay for an extra year six years. It's like the commonwealth considers this a bigger offense. Then that it is too wide that is to hit somebody over the had."

" Yet if it's ridiculous in the district court any day a look at some of the depositions that we have. You know a criminal offenses where we're thankful beacon in a lot of binding under adult book -- thank. And everybody -- or over and you know compare that happened forget that an avenue law get on -- need to elect on all. -- all fine. In need Bertrand apartment going to be very amusing -- I'll ever -- it was Kirby and it dot we have bought turret coming down. All parts of the country. Oh I don't know maybe it'll have to be clairvoyant the figure out and we kept the law com but they're going to be Berkeley -- Olof. In the valley's going to be very interesting indicate that the how many visitors we have who accidentally -- no intention of violating that you are are on their own because of their own --"

" What about dialing. What it there was there there that was one of the amendments that somebody was putting him that you could still bio about what that that amendment just who died in the can."

" All that they accepted. In the process but you can now dial or hit the on button or anything like that though not all not only -- not only deplete practically extreme vision the behavior on the on made it happen to be scratching your year. But now they're going to have to beside her. Whether or not you're on the phone are aimed at someone or if you did happen to be down on what you what you in street --"

" I mentioned to you Worrell is earlier and I I just keep it just keeps running through my head I mentioned again on the air today. I know there's a law on the books saying you can't use you can't use headphones if you're driving a car."

" you know there's there's over a thousand motor vehicle laws that. We import train tracks."

" Show so you couldn't so even if I have the air phone and I could still be excited and surcharge on on on this bill that was passed 2530 years ago. Right."

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" Can anybody give me a strict. That's going to -- give me a straight answer can be governor -- the attorney -- can somebody give me a straight answer."

" Well it better seat busy -- fingers props they're hoping that we don't have a private man but -- tied up on that. -- yell that's what they want thing about our our police officers. Therefore police stopped there and the having a lot of friends there -- in business. -- don't want that they don't want to be burdened with -- it garment Mary Joe's. -- I'm 35 miles an hour is. -- on the owner. Scratching your head or whatever it is they don't want -- whip up get a bit of law enforcement. Don't get into the motivational want in its fourth Eddie traffic laws that there in the that -- want to help people on is that the act there and in other than just another another half that we're associating with law enforcement that would sound and the now they have the ultimate problem like really are and it's a bad public all in the -- You know already able cynical about government not only decided that the some of the things that we do. And when we only apple and quite like that Ali it's at its credit the entire in these -- government on the it's no wonder you know we got all types of -- Right he basing the commonwealth -- for the last two weeks the only thing we've been doing it talking about whether or not want to give our view. And insurance companies the ability to make money -- people."

" I know you don't Jerry William -- had this session of the old -- about you know using Cox's wrote for -- revenue enhancement I mean in this but you know this isn't even like for the city's -- they get that they get they have the city in the state has displayed a hundred dollar fine right. Words insurance companies like you say are going to get fourteen -- box that's so basically basically your. I mean that -- to -- this you worked for if you were if you were okayed by the English crown. To raid the space on the Spanish -- you weren't pirate you or private here. Right so and so we we have pops operating as private tears for the insurance companies."

" And it that the police are party they part of the conspiracy air at all in the belt they're doin' it goblet. At that public false to dedicate our rightful fine for civil motivate on fact both it deterrent. I want committing we all get that but doesn't really make sense. They have the profit that goes to the insurance company be greater than the fine for the commonwealth. It's the logical but that's what the member legislature did currently outfit today. And I hope that it. At least we in the abet or or maybe they'll as many think happened maybe they'll be so much to -- between the body -- We can hope that the thing died in the opposite."

" I think I think your being optimistic though are represented again with that with with this much money at stake for the insurance companies I'm sure that. You know money talks as you know and BS walks."

" And whatever else that or do you want to know it really behind something in the legislature it happened view audience they -- on something. Interest saint app like that they all you have to do is look up in the gallery at a lobbyist because they're watching it. And not going to naming and air but the but just stay there if you folks from thumb. Auto insurance company -- out."

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" A I I didn't get to quote Danielle my I'd never want my picture taken with a."

" Well let's -- all of that let's figure call through here with -- Geoff Perry the House of Representatives has today eight. Approved the christmas the early christmas 2008 giveaway to the auto insurance companies. By by restricting cell phone use in cars. And it's for the children of course it's not for the insurance don't make millions and they'll still be kids killed you'd text messaging in using cellphones. But it's for the children. Okay this see this requires a suspension of disbelief but they've asked to have a suspension of disbelief before on Beacon Hill all of our children have this thank you thank you Attorney General Reilly and it's all about the children and about keeping our fingers crossed Bob your next with how we -- representative Jeff Perry go ahead Bob."

" How else I never did a lot like this. I mean I know I arrived on the history myself and I have problems it dialing well I have problems with that but the thing is is that the technology should get that. Build it wanted to trash -- that makes manufacturers put cellphones quite the track. Build it right into the council we don't have these problems but you don't have to hold it in the we don't have to make ridiculous -- up."

" We have -- true they have Bluetooth but Bluetooth costs a lot of money Bob."

" I'm on blue troops right now how and I got -- with my phone so it doesn't cost anything they didn't question any sort of -- The political is one button -- CeBIT technology covers. So we don't have to be brought up what nonsense this is going to change into the trickiest when they have GPS still and every -- an exceptional upon opening."

" This is another thing Jeff I mean to me GPS is a lot more distracting when you're trying to punch in that that address then that is to dial a number that you probably know pretty much by heart."

" Well I fully agree we talked about the -- a close those of the other distractions but. You know I I can pretty much stay with some confidence that -- as we have it tragic event because somebody happened to be using the -- Viet. That thumb while they're driving and they get an act and and perhaps or kill somebody will probably got a lot to do something about. You know it is it -- which just such an eight jerk reaction. If everything that happens it's almost that. -- legislative online local friends feel like they have the beauty its duty bound. React to every problem society as a every time and government takes care of something what you were -- you. How to handle a situation and take away your responsibility they're awful they await your personal --"

" I know it's I know it's a much bigger problem with a big big but yet on the other hand we have a problem where hundreds of people could be killed in in one fell swoop. It you know what's going to cry and it to edit the best it's gonna cost millions if not billions of dollars to keep pumping the water out of a big big. And it and on the very same day that they move against this this non problem of cell phones. They they they tell us we're going to have to keep our fingers crossed on the big day that's very -- the solution for the problem and again I. I don't know what Martha Coakley and Michael Solomon would though I don't it's a tough problem but it it doesn't seem like there's this really. That that that there's the same commitment to solving major real problems as there is to solving -- problems."

" Well pretty our default on the that they want pretty that the you know -- legislation of the few it is. And make everybody feel good -- go."

" But it doesn't just going to punish law abiding city it's just another way to punish people who basically abate the law."

" Well that's the -- most of my aptitude of all that are I was. At that at a public safety -- today and they were talking increasing the gun laws in Massachusetts because of perceived problem but not the end of the day after reading -- buildings airing out -- The only one that they're targeting a traitor very very people who are on the gun legally and not doing I think to the criminals. -- out they're committing crimes in the same people who want to. He looked down on a minute who want to make it harder for are abiding citizens to own guns and -- the same people or against minimum mandatory sentences for criminals though it. The the logical argument of the a political side of the political dialogue on that if you're done controller unit make sense."

" 18 can use -- for one more segment we'll let you go in the come back Jeff he's the thing okay hold public -- more calls on this 18774694322. If governor the weighty stuff will play the white stuff to probably in the final segment of the show tonight it will also play the stuff about the keeping your fingers crossed that when your in the big epic novel. That's a about kidney VMware would review the work at all that you've. You've missed well out our if you missed it but yeah I haven't heard it 18774694322 on how we are."

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" I feel like. Like the money and money in my barking up the wrong tree here -- my I'm the only person who writes about this in the papers in either either the papers. -- I don't know I don't know I don't. The other local shows I but neither is anybody talking about this doesn't bug bit -- he heard that there to win."

" I just I just don't understand they they you -- you -- and you have a problem. A kid a seventeen year old kid is killed but text messaging why are reading text messages. Soul assembly is so because seventeen year old kid is -- did -- kill yourself text messaging and again a tragedy for the family our condolences -- but. That now they now they want to outlaw handheld cell phones for 34 million drivers in Massachusetts. 989% of whom -- over the age of seventeen. I don't get it. What do we outlawed text messaging why don't we why don't we make. If if it comes down to it if it comes down to take away my hand held cell phone or increasing the drive and aged eighteen I get you know where I come down on that one. Now let's increased that if the if the driving age was eighteen import girl from -- bridge were over she was from would be alive today witnesses representative Jeff Perry he's a -- Cape -- Republican. The vote that he was one of the 47 the vote today in the house was a 1480747. And now the bill goes to the Senate and again they're going to try to stop in in the Senate some people are going to try to stop -- in this and I hope -- more -- than they had in the house today. And again a lot of them were three balls are revolves around a lot of that objections revolve around. Surcharges because this is going to mean millions and millions and millions of dollars for the -- ought to -- Auto insurance companies none of whom are currently operating in the red would be mighty I guess one -- in my right representative Bob parry."

" I am I think that the British they date in the they've that they can throw it. On the line -- romp through their allotted Bible operating threat."

" Let's take a few more calls for a representative -- we'll take a break and I we come back way at the -- final segment will play the Whitey Bulger audio -- one more time and that will place over the Martha Coakley Michael -- press conference about the Big -- When they talk about the catastrophic event. That is that. They're keeping their fingers crossed won't occur caught you're next with Howie Carr and a representative Jeff Perry go ahead --"

" That capital where exactly think the government going to have a special dispensation facility -- document that and."

" I've been wondering about the same thing about what do you think are representative -- we can't stop -- for many -- anything else I mean I guess they'll be allowed to use cellphones that the rest of us won't be allowed to use right."

" it doesn't rove matter a I'm sure are deeply thought well that's spam and find them but then they'll just changed their name or are. You know not show up the border there."

" God if you don't have as if you don't have any insurance a surcharge on your insurance is sort of an empty threat isn't it."

" Security not part it'll real problems we have and they'll probably -- months if not talking about a bill. That I filed increased the penalties for on repeat unlike the -- And it that the pretty big problem I think."

" I I agree it's and across the entire state to it's not just in certain areas anymore it's everywhere."

" Yeah that the different bit that I haven't been able to get that built the left out of the rules committee. I think he'd been -- the bottom line and I haven't been able to get it even our -- Well you know when -- when it. In the interest of my democratic friends who wanna make up little bit bigger. It's okay able trying to although real -- complicated problem increased penalties or may -- non politically correct subject different story."

" You know what they say can we kill a representative Perry's bill to make illegal aliens a pay their own way Cs that -- Yes we yes weekend kill that bill. Barry your next with how we car and a representative Jeff Perry go ahead Gary."

" greetings from western. Paper tomorrow -- hand held all the all the."

" enjoy it while you can Gary."

" And it and a second point. -- little platoons and all that crap gap form a pain in the ass parties out what you're driving at if you -- pick up a hand held dial all the."

" I you know -- headed in the my BMW that I had for awhile and idea I'm with you why turned off of the Bluetooth after awhile I. Deal and whether it."

" One other thing. What what about my hand held off copies. The the sports and no ballpark but we're in the awarding them and you know."

" I know how about your hand held ice cream about how much bigger hand held don't -- hand held anything."

" Lots more you get on it prob Bob -- afraid."

" Black berries are representative -- mean that there I'll they're a threat to lie to our very existence --"

" They've -- and blackberry as a covered under the legislation you will be violating a statute that map which it is that they'll it's your operating. Your blackberry."

" So -- flashlight in in in its. Is that a blackberry there pal."

" I have no idea how my. Probably thousands of them a threat to figure out what you're doing in your lap."

" Well boy thanks for the call Garry use up your next with Howie -- and our representative Jeff Perry for mother Kate go ahead Yousef."

" reps that are but there I'd go to New York and I have been pulled over twice and vocal what you want to call that I told operate -- pretty -- well."

" You know this is on the two way. In New York."

" The support of the bridge of the New York I want I want. And I mean I was bewildered as far as although it actually no idea why it was pulled over and the guy explain to me violently. Was that you can't be on the bottom out -- I don't know where you're from. And I mean I have a Red Sox stick I don't know about it that you do about it I -- us."

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" And so it didn't expect women they have a -- three times but it just that they got acknowledging I was it is bad I think -- The troopers got -- will happen over the open policy not an emergency. And it just is sitting on top of that. You know it's such an MR souls don't the red -- and put that right -- just do it myself what they really irks me."

" We're going to be accepted there -- I'm sure that part of the bill survived and representative Perry that exempts public safety employees for -- having to abide by the same rules as everybody else."

" It most certainly did it late there's been firefighters and other public -- if this shall. And are required --"

" This is way in this in this is a good example of that -- brought up -- of which we're talking about that it just kinda destroys everybody's confidence in the it in the fair and equitable -- application of a law."

" Absolutely and it. The auto there's not a way to interpret it we have people looking at I have an intern right now from Canada working our -- that he masters student at topic and she was. Flabbergasted that we were taking that bill up today that you know that I had been taught about all -- that the commonwealth overpaid and she literally that the best thing that you guys at the -- I mean then that this something that you know doesn't understand the map of the political being that he's going here at Owen. And I think that's how people are the look at government that the more that we didn't stop like -- the -- ignored the the bigger problems in the real problem."

" The governor the governor has put forward today basically a bogus budget. Are are what I mean it's based on revenue that's not going to be there."

" Well you know that's that's the beats you know Ali that's really not or you know that's because 300 million are from the casino proposal that -- law. Just because 300 million more it from the corporate tax will all bill that is -- line just because these borrowing or stealing -- taking 300 -- on the rainy cake out would not be at all up it becomes a billion dollars that because that's not. Accounted for our revenues wouldn't call all its."

" I I guess it's very mean spirited them."

" Yeah are part about it than a Bluetooth quality as a all of a little -- in the department wrote it wrong way about it. Out of that now look what the real -- gender it yet maybe it is an underlying it -- in the bulk. If that the put things in -- and look more fashionable let. It -- BA a boon for some people like in companies and -- taking these air speed of light -- of --"

" So like two people say well it's only 35 bucks -- four times three million -- ha -- that's a pretty good that's a pretty good score for somebody. Thanks for the call -- Walt you're next with how we Kerr and representative Jeff Perry go ahead Walt."

" Here's my situation I would carrier everybody and order doesn't a lot of businesses we know he's -- so. Such microphone acts like -- it was the telephone."

" Well under the bill it is on the we we talked about that today at the technology the -- radio devices that act on Britain out are included under the definition you can not if that happens the panic and find Patrick he -- not. Is that -- violating that."

" So you're not you're just gonna have to get a hit -- going to be a whole new phone and a whole new system it's gonna cost you well a lot more than 35 bucks. Is that while well now another -- they -- you again thanks for the call while miles your next with a point guard representative Jeff Perry go ahead miles."

" Hi I think the insurance companies are just a bunch of been periods these. But -- and and I think tech's messed text messaging as well worse than simply talking on cellphones my question for you how he is would view be outraged and wanted to seduce someone who was just talking on their cell phone. Who committed an accident and and killed one of your family members."

" I'd be angry but I'd be angry if they he has built a couple of coffee to why it's well I mean it was it's the same you know it. Anything can happen now on the highway I mean I -- once to drop the cigarette on mighty Michael."

" That's not the point would you want to see them reliability -- applicants."

" I'd probably I probably would yeah."

" So doesn't that make it clear that if this happens when you go into court the law it is automatically specific that the person should not have been on the cellphone."

" Other issue I double and at all while appointed but the issue is -- come -- and civil litigation. If there's a motor vehicle accident and the -- off their site. The one of the operated by that there on the telephone you can you can read -- sure that that -- going to come up in civil litigation."

" I added that there's a loophole or an alleged loophole which says that if there's an emergency you can use the hand held so of course everything will be an emergency right."

" Well I would think they have the group we were calling -- on record but I think my -- point is that. This this issue has some unattended consequences that perhaps not thinking about if someone beating and they get accidentally get that they. They -- a citation. -- that evidence of the -- coming in to prove that -- negligent in accident and the same theory is logically -- applied. Someone who -- the a it's like being on the belt -- going to be I would say it right the level of presumption but it certainly a piece of evidence that goes toward. Proving that that person was negligent operation though. Yeah -- need a lot of consequences that when the legislature acts such a quick fashion in response the -- that on the front page. That we haven't had time Tibet this issue here here from our constituents and the other interest groups after the going to the and it really get to our court -- quite a bit that flame on pick it up it'll be a lot more. They can appeal than their current field and get that I guess it's good bit of lawyers because what are more people looking you I lowered the fight --"

" Aren't you glad you've been going to law school all these years you've been they you know. -- it was my way and let our relievers that they -- very."

" We appreciate your -- Clarke -- again keep us informed on on this issue was that as the winds its way through the general court okay. They held me with -- that's representative Jeff Perry"