Bruce Freidrich 11-19-07

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" coveted look for guns in my place any day well maybe well by -- that we'll be I can come back tomorrow I don't know how come tomorrow and look for the -- eight. By the way they say that they're not if they find if they find a key of Coke bill bell prosecute you but if they found a bag of pot they'll just flush it down at least that's what they said the newspaper over weekend okay 18774694322. It is almost thanksgiving and thanksgiving is one of the great -- holidays of the year as we all know it's a Turkey time and you know I'm not a big Turkey -- him properly -- Turkey government be in Florida I'll go to the go to a restaurant than. Have some Turkey and probably a product -- for I prefer stake. For pork or steak. -- actually prefer chicken and Turkey that but all of a -- Turkey. Alex like like could stay and I like seafood bill bullish -- from shrimp -- the place I'm gonna go some place Jumbo shrimp. May be some oysters on the half shell all will be delicious. But would like to have someone join us every year the kind of rain on our our -- mediating parade that would be Bruce Friedrich from. People for the ethical treatment of animals keep. And of course -- stands for something else that is people eating. Tasty animals and a Bob berg from spur exports were -- Coretta main has a sent down some T shirts."

" We gave Bruce Bruce Lindsay is last year a teacher. Indeed it is at the top spot."

" Okay what we've got -- it could be the hit it -- softball game to if you if you get on the air at this hour you will be getting me eight Bob that teacher from -- sports weren't coroner made Wilson about. Official member -- people eating tasty animals. Okay now. Bruce free trade if you want to talk to Bruce in Pelham what you're planning to eat for thanksgiving or why you like to while white what you like the hot for it should not down on I think so much as he -- on. On agribusiness. But it almost is the start of hunting season in Massachusetts Bruce and in many of the states where we have broadcast it's been it's been hunting has been going on for several weeks now. Now why should why should I give up my Turkey on thanksgiving and please Bruce I'll tell me. A little live longer if I do because my father's a 102 I just had a checkup I've been perfect physical help I have the blood pressure or wrapped -- So -- I am very reptilian in more ways than one but I don't I can eat as much meat is I want and it's not going to hurt me groups."

" Is it what you could throw -- now it's very well -- their their scientific evidence that if your cholesterol level it's below 150 -- not have or Terry artery but would not have -- attack which is -- attacks I think about 120 or something like that. Okay that apparently you do have the genetics to do it yes the average cholesterol level -- the sausage please. It's about 185 that's for if media. -- pro level over 200 that's why. -- these. Killer or country for -- the average -- about that are for people who don't have worked she had entered the -- Like they let -- electoral -- if -- need to look at at --"

" I believe there's very little fact -- in that Turkey meat isn't there especially white Turkey meat."

" Well it over 30% in terms of calories. If you look at volume very low but it's actually very ironic it's over -- or term the saturated fat as well as well cholesterol. What -- bit higher in cholesterol calorie for calorie. Steak but but those are the best."

" Right I was gonna say you don't really care about that as much as you do you just don't like the thought of killing these these -- animals which have the basic IQ of an arch."

" Well no actually they're smarter than dogs cats -- do better on our actions and behaviors. -- which."

" May be why -- turkeys do but not the ones so we're gonna be eating. Now actually kind of wild Turkey to dance at a Starbucks -- what they're there all over the damn place the."

" They haven't they've they've bred these. Oh that there at the that they can't even walk but they're less intelligent than the wild counterpart. -- animal behavior research they could do the research with non domesticated turkeys they actually you used to it -- ordered to search. What they're I think that turkeys and chickens have a capacity or site. They work elevations and the bases they can learn from television they can't really watch your TV that he could actually watch but these studies in the educational videos section on Arco should not -- yeah. And they compare chickens and turkeys to --"

" So I told you this before I -- I used to own chickens okay. And they. They award. Com meet a flock ski -- that that chicken coop you know just reach yet and grabbed one of them edits are tearing it apart tearing its head apart and the other would would come -- watch so that they can then get their heads torn -- by the fox."

" I very hurt you the the I sought them. Apps would react to circumstances -- that I think I'll I'll I'll take your word for it but what we still it would be true on the basis of the behavior science. Is that there intelligent individual I don't know what it is that there is the only -- you know it's girl that caused the pavement."

" But did tastier than hopeful groups that may be true -- but the -- I can't believe he's admitted it. As the first time I've ever got him to acknowledge these the the fact of life"

" Alec -- repeated at at it would take it that the it would rule the animals and -- rode their upper -- all that. As quickly -- 50 years ago and there are living through chemistry other part of it. But there the Washington back. At a rate of -- active Turkey for thanksgiving. About the fact that Turkey naturally -- there oh upper body. And the literally are -- one week because while collapse heart failure or crippling the upper."

" Now we've we've talked about this -- art the turkeys the ones who was sometimes come out when in the rain and and it's they'll just put their. Put their opened geeks up in the air and -- sometimes they'll drowned because they just -- they can't figure out that they shouldn't be ingesting all this water."

" I hope that your listeners in HBO the -- at eight piano and actually learn about what happened. -- production which it is undercover investigation and -- slaughter we."

" Hey I love what else they're better than oven staffers."

" Well we did -- undercover investigation we state one of the -- and Robert what are available actuary. -- people can't resist HBO documentary airs tonight at 8 PM actually get needed Turkey and he'd be hideous to use that on. On the factory farms in the slaughterhouse. Turkey at the law to protect them but effort that involved could be prosecuted for felony cruelty and."

" I guess I guess you saw the Michael Vick reported to jail today I guess we'll have to agree on that right we will have to agree 18774694322 if you want to talk to Bruce Friedrich he has from the people for ethical treatment of animals -- we're giving away people eating tasty animal T shirts. Everyone who gets through this -- happy thanksgiving week to everybody Chris you're next with Howie Carr and Bruce Friedrich go ahead --"

" I got it spirited -- back -- thanks. Suddenly there's good news story it's -- peered prearranged Turkey's but he wouldn't be here helped fatten them up I don't want it take. It would feel more -- ago. I'm not familiar with. Story that."

" Let's make this up while you were sitting there is this true story that with a board of the produce says it's a true story. He's feeding the -- a sudden. Here all I thought he said dear hubs on our side are you ago the clean up -- years the what I had nowhere that would that sound effect came from."

" Yeah it's. Is that you know drunk but big coat Pepsi and it's closing down their fattening up you'd hear it."

" The turkeys and Juliet and dozens are not that sounds like it better than most rations that are that you expect -- back reform Turkey. -- that's what the particular objection the."

" Chris hold on you're getting a T shirt PD -- T shirt -- you're next with Howie -- and Bruce Friedrich go ahead dec."

" A -- welcome back in the tigris and just gotta say that I don't know about feeding them beer but it that you visit darn good you know recipe on -- them in here. And that. No wonder I wonder what that's."

" I'd rather based I'd rather based them with their own juices."

" Well yeah you're right our the best that -- is hardly a lot of water. Operative or people who would like -- experience starter at all -- it is that the Turkey appear we have a whole street line 888. They food 88 AE GF OOD read -- outlined at the -- work and eat eat eat that work. We -- video it will walk you exactly what Turkey production to -- industry looks like."

" Do you think I would be a a better person Bruce if it's that if I if I gave up Turkey. On Thursday and instead had a feel --"

" I think it's about six to want to happen is that the other Turkey verses -- Cutler."

" Know what veal -- what is worse than a Turkey."

" I would say that -- now equal on Japan is. The most abuses of the the -- industry -- that the industry that people he worked actually industry he worked that BA in the industry makes the industry -- back to Turkey industry about the nine. That the mr. street wants stepped up. And the analyst mysteries that you -- a rule the people went in about one you know all the first about the jacket and all the it."

" I think government have a filet mignon night smugly of going going straight -- it will be the last --"

" Lot better at any tickets -- I think he did you without these were all together"

" thanks for the call they called on you're getting a T shirt as well let our -- you're next with Howie Carr and Bruce Friedrich for people for the ethical treatment of animals go ahead rod."

" Take a -- second these -- that he will be here on out there -- at -- now aren't you that they're not. At that -- members. Is there is it impossible to convince the -- I mean not the need to count felony in my meals that don't take nearly as good -- not some sort of meat product involved. I mean even people what amber has been playing all these things."

" I agree totally and you know what the best pizza wall is raw meat lover's beats. Maroney sausage like suburbs."

" Yes I I grew up on the levers pizzas and McDonald and Eric opened. And it -- If you migrant other Oklahoma like a wallet right cross country and in Oklahoma school sports the food groups that are dairy queen and McDonald's big Mac -- but certainly understand. What you're pocket."

" You we don't want people we give up ice cream Bruce I mean come on that's going a little too far that's that's radical."

" And it for me the issue was not wanting to the work rule the day in doubles and recognizing that basic integrity demands. That if I don't want to slip it -- open I don't pay other people. With animals --"

" You don't know animals' throats get slid open to making a dairy queen hot fudge Sunday."

" Sure they -- as technical support there for fourth birthday and turned and hamburger that's that's why they're raised part of profit from Gary is that slaughtering them slaughtering their babies video industry and the beer industry the acting industry under percent of the com front -- it's the -- the it and that's obvious but it's just that severe are you even more severe."

" Rhonda thanks for calling and you're getting a teacher let's take a break we'll be right back with Bruce Friedrich. From people for the ethical treatment of animals -- 18774694322 on how are"

" 1877469432. Who is of course thanks."

" You weren't sure people will be coming to work each day this week until Thursday force and the highlight of thanksgiving usually the big feast on Thursday where -- dead."

" Byrd a large carcass of a Turkey. There on the in the middle of the table with all of bureau I love it and not -- relatives seating there. And that's why at this time every year we. Bring on Bruce Friedrich keys from the people. For the ethical treatment of animals Peta and he's here to what the try to make the pitch that you shouldn't eat meat on thanksgiving or any other day. And we have to -- T -- people eating tasty animal teacher it's from Bob berg sportswear -- sportswear and Coretta Maine to give away here. All of everyone gets through -- to was speak in this our 18774694322. A bruising issue saw the story today Heather mills launches probe vegan campaign with racy ads she's talking about substituting -- milk BC ABC this."

" The the point what's with the what is it with Smith this this joke. While it it it illustrates the that people are very old Jack people that the idea but he. You went out now so for example companies pregnant yet child appointments reference to drink milk an effort but he. Justifiably revolted and that we think that in the may increase secretions the other house."

" Somehow -- only had -- croatians you you seemed have a problem with milk."

" Well that's what it is an and it it is -- secretions then for the same reason that we wouldn't drink I'd still -- Others -- or cat or rap or human mother's milk. It's no less."

" Also what's -- sort of -- street. See that illustrate this sort of -- people are so crazy though Bruce you know in these these matters. You know like releasing minks into the into the farm raised minks into the wild to be immediately killed the run over. Miki you don't know where the jokes begin and where reality began its."

" Extra few years ago but -- that a truly think that was actors acted on here that it made it -- your shot -- A holiday prank but now a lot of serious"

" 18774694322 we have several people who would dispute -- in your statement that at that Turkey is more intelligent than a dog."

" While not I've just quoting the animal behavior science and that's what behaviors scientists do who actually studied the issue work with these and all my dog I would go to and he go to view of our main sanctuary what you find is that the -- Actually effort that it has varied in terms of personality as a lead -- and the they're individuals just what."

" But what are my dogs watch me put the other one outside today in this and that that I turn to put the second went out and she read she was smart enough to realize when I was going to do I was gonna put her out in the cold Medina. It she ran away -- I've ever never had that experience with a Turkey but I'm guessing that Turkey could figure it out."

" I think I think you would be surprised"

" let's see pat your next with how we card Bruce Friedrich brought this a different wrong that was that we that we just had a wrought in that spot. It's Iran try Ron Ron's gone I think pat your next with how we cargo ahead pat."

" Yeah our good performer then I met the doctor or what it was dark yourself let me segment like. And a group -- perennial favorite ever Bruce but I here. I got it cellular you gotta ask you about clamp knowledge that I you have to let genetic thing about them I don't know preferred to let them build what was start."

" I love you know -- IUI you know this side because I've spoken with your wife about this. I love -- bellies full bellied fried clams with tartar sauce."

" I -- had been loaned them home. I mean it we'll"

" it's it's obviously harder empathize with the Grail -- on the that it is empathize with the dog or cat or. Even -- of -- We go back what bio ethicist and professor at Princeton University doctor you respect that about Korea trip that other animals."

" Where bio emphasis yet he's a professor of bioethics at Princeton university and he wrote the book animal liberation act in 19 that the -- that. And it is the basis -- like an animal rights -- as much with. Ali he's been called -- the New York I'm as in -- for a live on -- is right there must be the New York Times. Well maybe yes maybe it. But it argument that all that we don't think that the it theology of -- we understand it theology has been patient mammals birds. Why not give them the benefit of the doubt why not err on the side auction."

" I tell you what why not give me the benefit of the doubt and I keep harvesting them so I can have them public view pat would you would you want to give clamps the benefit of the doubt or do you want to take the benefit of the doubt."

" Oh get the boot I'm available clams dig that the these are."

" Me Elliot you know it goes back to. Take and I originally adopted the when he years ago but the simple argument. But if I can make that choice to be kind or actually to be rule epidemic situation to be on -- And it it's a little the little lives here with regard to clams -- and other shellfish and crustacean I think that the choice to be kind for being the choice who live as merciful elect as possible. Means that I would give them the benefit of the."

" So I would be better off giving that would be better off just going with the appetizer at the -- gonna have thanksgiving dinner which you schlepped. A that would be they'll be a more moral decision that having Turkey stop stuffed with sausage sausage flavor does stopping."

" And I guess it depends if it -- and the capacity. Feel paying you not not an entire colony of them for the and salaries that the Turkey it's a tough call it he went with the vegetarian option however he -- he -- clear conscience -- they were you."

" But behind every 30 minutes later. Besides I was we've been through this before. Do you know how do you know that that they that that much fun that's made out a week and berries how do you know that that -- didn't have feelings."

" But we expect first of all physiologically biologically we that it doesn't have a brain Switzerland's. It doesn't have a -- it doesn't have a central nervous system that's in protectors but it illogical you'd anonymity did because -- telling us that -- the exit. The second thing they would -- that. -- did have a capacity to feel pain. It's an extra -- calories in the form the way or other work green currently known that went all you want -- pack now. That -- That we have a patient and by eating the crops directly still caught a lot less -- to be -- not likely --"

" Cool now you've come up with a new justification for reading your cranberry muffin in the morning."

" Wellemeyer populism was actually by a rich -- and when he years ago I read. Christianity and the right available and sort of like about him off action as well."

" Thanks for the call pat you're getting a T shirt that says people leaving tasty animals 1877469432 to jog your next with Howie Carr and Bruce Friedrich from people. For the ethical treatment of animals go ahead John."

" welcome back pocket. It -- really not -- from the wild it might -- plot. -- Turkey until about the ecology at the Princeton. Ordered national spelling me. Well there's the strong in the intelligence I've that might wait a kid that's I dictate."

" A whole bunch of walked in front of my car the other day John how smart they believe they keep going they doing this all over the place."

" I cannot Nat Ali -- my name and a survival instinct mode that they might think of awards let's they're not doing about problems -- after what are still may not Asia wrapped up for a world without great. And I'm sorry my friend I figured I'd just yet"

" you know what I adapted to be in nine years ago it was. Sort of worldly that Reid the now there are outraged and so be."

" Though believe them folks I've had some of his full meets."

" On summit some of them are better than others Alley but on Intel on the intelligence issue there a lot of human beings who are not doing. It -- algebra or winning spelling -- either my point was."

" If you appear important the average human being will get out of the road unlike the turkeys in the past and from my car."

" Well -- well are we at well dot well you know Everett the learned that they are smarter than three year old human beings and stop the exits result chickens and turkeys and --"

" big catch this year. -- the us."

" Now she's that it vegetarian for a number of years but because she realizes that there's no moral distinction between eating a -- A thought back to reach your -- out well with argument that it would be more moral -- the Arctic -- it."

" But -- it's now you're coming back to effect that you you don't even want in the any research that could that could that come up with cures for diseases and and prolong human life and save human life you'd you'd rather. You -- at the little white rats just stay in their cages in pet store somewhere."

" Well and -- for the same reasons that you what you're picked up those -- veterinarian does make sense to it used to abuse animal labs. With the idea that they do that on the cure for aids or cancer heart disease would have."

" Would you put -- we have to you have to test them on some sort of living creature right would you rather test these these knew was drugs that that that may may be lifesaving or may be deadly would you rather testimony human being her --"

" Well evidently and it also -- and make it through batteries available and yet nine out of drugs he'll have to be old. Back at ten days and --"

" I think it might have a ten everything is it turns out not to be worth worth anything."

" They have a 90% failure rate and doing at indeed -- at an -- Is actually allowing drugs that harm human beings to get on into the market. There's growing scientific basis that the British Medical Journal won't even publish animal research anymore but -- they don't think you can extrapolate. From other animals human beings it's not just that the science but it also counterproductive science. The reason that we have tobacco on the market the reason that that tobacco executives could testify before congress that they don't think tobacco causes lung cancer were addictive is that it did have those properties in any of that millions of animals."

" We're talking about tobacco we're talking about we're talking about potential cures for deadly diseases not not right that caused deadly diseases."

" You look at something like created that are for -- they shelled for more than six years but it all the animal experimentation and look at the polio vaccine. It was that that more than in years but that the while the animal experiments. And we now can he worked in there and -- animals with -- what -- different substances. But of course -- of this that -- work being. It's a but it is -- it's I. -- on now it's like you getting your hard drive to the and figure who -- that you -- you're getting closer but you're not getting closer than. The -- attempt to extrapolate."

" You're comparing apples to reveal or 1877469432 to David your -- with how we cargo ahead David."

" Welcome back all right there's AM a statement today indicate that the 20 pound pound Turkey hang around. Outside the arledge by the probably the process and the guards and attacking me I haven't chasing -- yes."

" A ball mr. Spago before this Turkey has brought did just that it's"

" I think it could that it against -- bird must be realists tell -- I have to agree with -- stuff that's."

" Thank you heard -- he's -- he -- kid the only thing to arms -- continues to attack them with impunity they -- all I'd get a T -- the admiral you're next with Howie -- And Bruce Friedrich from -- go ahead."

" It Ali thank you very much my god I've been waiting so long -- you back again and it's it's Elijah longtime long my mister. Her at -- night. Pros might question you. And then I am going to hang up then -- and Leo comment because I don't want sunk without being what you are moon that. What do you eat for -- bank is being an holidays every day."

" I prefer to hear about tofu here admiral"

" I thought I mean it like. You know or or on news Europe we're going to eat. We'll definitely enjoyed a movement of that move what ever it's what we need -- body."

" Okay Bruce what are you having for dinner on thanksgiving"

" and we haven't actually we have figured out what the -- and going to be that there are people who alternative to Turkey. -- scrutiny and and these things who would argue that it. Card you can use these right now a moment right eloquently available at -- but it it will only mediators -- the state."

" And wouldn't full me. And I'll bet -- would -- most of my listeners either you -- might be surprised -- and so you didn't fool me with that fake a lobster few years ago."

" I'm I'm sorry that we that you make up your Alley it no murky doesn't it -- it like Turkey that it predict that an. It's like -- Eisner of course as always in the huddle that people are used to be made the net for people who want. Recipe at work thanksgiving -- check out a cooking. Dot com that need to be to be one little inspiration. Watch the video -- not work. You don't want to work -- thanksgiving as well."

" Or if you want to work up a big appetite go by a barbecue joint in your neighborhood. Hold on will take what do one more segment with Bruce freed were when we return 187746943221 Howie --"

" 1877469432218774694322. Another one bites 21 butterball. An immense number Bruce what are some of the other -- brand names of Turkey's."

" That I know it too big one waterfall and Kenny oh. -- oh it Jenny I was actually even thicker than -- it but more balance principally out of Minnesota yeah. But you know as the president to pick one butterball hotline we have our vegetarian -- you know I give it out."

" Go ahead -- guess -- guess and even with this this amazingly effective plug your by the delivered it. That the butterball -- going to get more calls that you in the next hour."

" Maybe so but will give people free recipes information. Packet of free stuff basically if they culpable for it just 888 should lose in NA VEG the and people at the helm beat it may even at the dot or I do hope people -- HBO this evening for HBO produced documentary. The good and the bad things have our critics as well but hopefully parent balanced look at Peta. On HBO 98 PM."

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" I remember him screenings are very very very that islam it. That."

" If if you're holding your brother memorable lighting some crosses well I was wearing a sheet over his head. Barred direct. -- Steve your next with Howie -- and Bruce Friedrich from people for the ethical treatment of animals go ahead stave"

" it Bruce can make the choice to be kind I'm going to make the choice not to be Hungary. But overall it visit there every take out Serb. About the closest thing yet -- human -- built from the stop experiment did not exist mean that a lot of people building up their cholesterol as we -- a going to be a lot. Point used to the disease that. I would have bought yeah if it last time I checked scientists believe that he dinosaurs were the ancestors of toward bird. So they had some of the smallest marine ever quite a -- and take to assuage our guilt over killing these turkeys. We can force them to watch the president democratic presidential debates and that about 45 minutes and make album files we can and even with no --"

" Thank you Steve Paula you're gonna get T shirt 18774694322 do you dispute that he said that that they do research on pigs hearts. To what to learn about human arts Bruce."

" A movement -- do we can you research -- that's easy for you this it's absolutely the growing about it. I would encourage people group of Americans for medical their web -- under -- or. There it's -- is that it -- it -- this them off. Now it doesn't have anything -- and doctors knew that -- money in search on"

" Todd you're next with Howie Carr and Bruce Friedrich from people for the ethical treatment of animals go ahead Tom"

" welcome that she -- she urged full fool it but I don't know my original version Walsh more. Cheer and scream I urged -- bloody model."

" Are you gonna put up a memorial there at the nearest tree where you -- over the vegetable."

" I don't -- a -- well. I think Russia digression before it may have just bought chicken excuse me we have bought -- and now. There actually it's it's actually good you're beaten coroner really should -- announced otherwise it turned out what the Canada the -- in this."

" Cause give it may give him a teacher nonetheless that he sure next with Howie -- and Bruce Friedrich from people for the ethical treatment of animals going Denise."

" Papers I'd edit camped at pat and Mark one at less I've killed over 400 Turkey's. I hear the last 25 years."

" Shame chair arm."

" would give -- something. Then thanksgiving bird please go to juicy and good coming at a the other."

" The big ticket and -- he'll exponentially more active. Want to try to -- and poker Bryant AM see it now urquhart and the director of -- a great day but for the pork or Turkey you're killing each year you Lar of their executioner. And our challenges all of the people who would be no longer and it why would you read it should -- or hear any other -- for people who would quit animal spirits open. -- in it."

" I like dogs are okay legs like senator Byrd I like dogs I don't I like to eat turkeys I liked the pet my dog."

" Sort -- or is speaking morally speaking there are now. What you -- rooms and --"

" According to your morality right behind morality is different than your morality. My morality starts advice about."

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