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Tony Massarotti
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Tony Massarotti

Published:Fri, 16 Nov 2007
Description:The Boston Herald sports columnist talks with Tom about Barry Bonds being indicted.
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" We delighted to join a Boston Herald right up the good one. He's here today he's going to judge he's right here now on RKO as a matter fact then. And it's not the -- from the afternoon it is the one an only tall medium as a Roddy. Oft times guest on -- sister station may Tony mast welcome to RK oh I'm doing great thank you Tony read your column today in the -- on Harold. On the the big day of reckoning. For Barry Bonds -- this has been a long time coming I got a couple of questions on the courtside a couple of questions about Major League Baseball want to get. -- the the other the encyclopedia of information as far as -- considered so I'm opening the encyclopedia as we speak. You know the -- the accusation the allegation apparently the basis of that is the foundation is that this was a knowing use. By Barry Bonds of performance in hearings in enhancing steroids. Do you have any doubt in your mind that these that he -- the deal was knowing use is it possible that. This was inadvertent terrorist Randy Anderson didn't tellem everything about this stuff."

" at this -- that there's no doubt in my mind. That he knowingly used performance enhances and I suspect that this -- there's no doubt in the minds of the federal government because I don't think it would have gotten its Arctic at any doubt in obviously it's a matter of being able to build the case and I have to believe so given the difficulty what I understand certainly. Trying to indict someone and then ultimately can -- them on charges of perjury you have to have a pretty strong case because mine is -- very difficult thing to Peru like -- if they feel like finally at this stage they have enough to -- this guy Jens. -- that the way we need to write down -- at the crime here was not. That he took performance enhancing drugs that crime -- that he went before congress was asked about it we've given immunity. And lied or allegedly lied and again my personal feeling is that the result alleged that he absolutely. -- all -- there and you know now -- third day of reckoning has come you can't you just can't block Iran keep that connector bigger than it all of not."

" Are not out there reckoning shark yeah yeah taught Tony I'm going to put you on the jury for a minute which means you have to speedster you have to set aside that -- just that -- a just a little bit okay. In any -- here's the question I guess if the federal government comes into the courtroom and you are a juror on on Barry Bonds trial. And presents TU. Documents that show they do it you know blood blood analysis and urine analysis that shows the absolute -- question presence of steroids in his bloodstream. Is that enough for you was a juror it's a vote to convict or do you have to have. Personal testimony from somebody who said. I talked about this with -- I explain this to him I told him what these things were and what these things would allow him to do he do it he shot the stuffy and did do you need dad -- do you need the personal testimony -- is just a documentation a blood test going to be sufficient VO."

" Well I think you're going to need some sort of personal testimony in I don't know whether that have to be directly from someone who gave a total. Thorpe whether it. Another pro athlete who says -- this is what I do for a living I think we all take into account 100% what we're putting into our bodies and in my my point is I don't it Barry Bonds can continue to play dumb in this thing common market it it might be enough that ultimately he's not convicted again. This this gets. I get a little beyond make skis in this areas we -- like covers sport I don't over the legal world. But I have to believe that federal prosecutors have their ducks in a role they're going to bring negate a -- all time home run leader. To trial for perjury so that personally I would -- come testimony and I probably need a significant amount because. Somewhere along with the wind is going to be one person's word against another -- stacked and it if it's several people word against another I think have a much."

" much -- much stronger case if there's a teammate for example that says hey I shall -- Barry in the locker room day after day in the in the syringe was hanging off his left cheek than you know it's if you you've obviously got to -- to case. Tony helped me in the listeners understand the role Greg Anderson here the guy involved with Balco Barry's train. And sat in -- jail for months and months and months and I'm not testify about testifying he's my friend about testify and so they they kept him in jail for the life of the grand jury he's now out what to what's the what does scuttlebutt on the street. About what Greg Anderson is likely to do."

" Well again -- some land at any time there's been no indication yet that he is going to testify against on although the timing is obviously interest in the the he was released yesterday which it -- be defeated the indictment came down. So there is a lot of speculation that maybe there's some sort of deal in place but he Anderson has maintained throughout that that he's not going to turn up on. It is the long story short for people who don't know he's the guy had basically provided bonds with all of this performance enhances along with very detailed schedule how to take them went to take some all of which is is deeply openly the book became expected of shadows by the to report about it."

" On electronic. Seattle then all over this thing from the beginning you have if if there are people interest in this story will not read this specific part. Or except that -- relating to bond alleged steroid use they get they have -- that would legally. Debt and that I highly encourage you to do so book is like came out its its pretty fascinating read it to do it out he killed an -- site. A plan he hadn't played it to make himself what he."

" You know Tony -- write a letter let me remind the audience with talk of the Boston Herald baseball guru talk Tony -- Roddy Tony your writer and this has to strike you had many many ways it has all the hallmarks -- attributes of a Greek tragedy a effectively gifted person with a fatal flaw ought to. In the end the -- become submerged because of the flaws. No question about it at this -- a fabulous baseball play a free steroid any suspicion whatsoever this is a guy -- build -- even round in my right."

" Well that's right he he was up before all it took place it was a sure fire hall and replant three -- able player awards. He was in gold locket and he had tremendous he'd. It was Barry Bonds is quite arguably was one of the I pretend greatest probably ten greatest baseball players of all -- letter a included in the top five. But he was right there amber at once you get to private Canton if you're splitting."

" Sure what's the difference because I don't fabulous yeah."

" Exactly what whether. Willie Mays or Barry Bonds of Mickey mantle that the -- sort of the same class but I think we all agree on and because of the attention that was he upon. Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa when he started to pursue an ultimately break -- from the -- home run record. Blonde became jealous that that's really big the simplest answer -- he felt like. He wasn't getting enough credit that he was better than most players and I suspect he sat there instead -- on planet straight and those guys you're cheating and and those guys -- really. But no less guilty you can -- he said well I'm going to start taken in taken development and showing -- How much better player I really -- in these guys and many. When acquire and so they hit 60 home runs seasons of the McGwire hit 70 bonds -- any great so it was different all of our opening recognized as the greatest player who's ever set foot on -- baseball field and it's kind of fact it really makes you wonder."

" The sit this sadness of it I think you've captured a preferably the sadness of it is. The top five top -- you're right with splitting he has that second of all even in the best days Maguire it's ulcers is impressive as they were out in the -- way they went Barry Bonds out of their best -- could take the day get on the field with him."

" Not even close and it it it really does make you wonder why someone would feel the need to say to attempt such a chip on his shoulder -- such baggage that he had to say I'm not content with just being one of the best or five because. That's hated strictly about opinion anyway she does he he felt like he had to make it clear case says to. No no no don't ever think anybody could -- which really speak to some it terribly deep level of insecurity for whatever reason."

" Yes it it isn't that amazing -- gifted people literally. Underneath it all have this sense of inferiority our insecurity that drive the to do something so was I mean this is this is profoundly stupid. When you when you think of it tell me Tony what how does Major League Baseball handle this going forward specifically. With three guide to the erected. Balk what do you think how do you think Sele again in other you know the owners will will approach this whole issue."

" Well I think that if this thing plays out the way they want which is it which is with a conviction I can't see any way it will not put an after effect on the were in the record book I think if that's what they're hoping for. And it quite honestly think they were hoping talk that this thing all what do capital for blind people broke the record should it didn't turn out that way but in the league office today there are static and again I think the only disappointment they haven't that this didn't capital with a bit sooner but. They conducted -- on investigation they've been trying to nail this Skype for a long time. And they just weren't able to release pending the results of the Mitchell investigation which may or may not come out sometime around the New Year be available for a little -- there."

" You know you could see but -- guess he got closer and closer to the -- Lucas looked as if he was suffering from extreme constipation there was just a terrible. Terrible look on his face as he dreaded bonds getting into the new realm you know the new -- with all this stuff. Hanging out the -- Judy Judy laundry."

" Yes he you don't want to be there quite honestly I didn't want to really be a part of this thing either and I don't think anyone get I with the exception possibly of the fans. In San Francisco I'm not sure there was anyone in the rest of the country that felt like celebrating Barry Bonds."

" Do you think he ever plays again net Toni -- as."

" I thought it was a chance a very very small chance before all of us. I think this now completely blows it out of the water no one's gonna put -- this guy there might have been and a very small outside shot the couple -- roll the dice. And brought men be that the designated hitter in the American league with happy about that I don't think there's any shots now."

" Anderson in assuming -- right on that one tell me how you think the hall for the Hall of Fame plays out from again with talked about a -- is being one of the top ten baseball players of all time. And yet he has the shabby shabby ending to a superlative Korea how to baseball -- again of the people who vote on Hall of Fame entry how to they approach this."

" Well I think I think he'd been dealt a pretty -- global -- all this comment and the one over them further I would. Until this became as intense now as it added as it has become I. I honestly of the mindset that I was going to vote of and I have a vote -- of -- because they felt like keep all favorable -- all the home -- stop I I don't I don't regarded as a home -- by any stretch of the imagination but now when someone -- indicted on charges of perjury -- really does -- call into question. And everything they've ever done because if you are willing to sit before congress and let -- let's face -- it doesn't get more elegant or -- that. Granted immunity and still had thought that city. Collide its its really speaks no it doesn't speak -- the lack -- Carriker called into question everything you've ever done. So I can mean now that that's that that's really a significant significant well and I can't see any way now that he's going to get voted not all and I I just I can't see it happening. Plutonium as you've been great"

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