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The "B" Word
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The "B" Word

Published:Thu, 15 Nov 2007
Description:Tom and Wendy Murphy take your calls and debate whether someone using the "B" word to describe Hillary Clinton is a huge deal.
+Automatically Generated Transcript  (may not be 100% accurate)

" on the eve of the presidential debate tonight democratic presidential debate all eyes on Hillary because some of the some of the missteps of the last debate boom when will she make another misting Africanist up and people have focused on a for a variety reasons there's a historic dimension -- candidacy -- no question about that the first woman. Also -- her husband does we all know was in the White House for eight years so there -- different realms to this candidacy and I he'd like to examine. But it -- with women. How do -- feeling about Hillary is there some solidarity of the system put out the -- and so on and so forth but let's get back if we can't to the question we're examining without. Governor Keating and John McCain's response in yes sensed that McCain and fumbled this and that he should have handled it in a different way. Any -- we go back to that cut if he can't."

" Allegedly beat it. I don't. Okay."

" Okay translation laid back. That I've always done that excellent."

" It just hasn't. Yeah direct that's an excellent question it's an excellent question okay. It was a -- yesterday. Arrest -- all right it shows me. Three points ahead of senator Clinton named me head to head matchup. So we're -- refer to this act. Well look better be quiet respect anyone who gets the nomination of the Democratic Party."

" They ghali's he respects anybody gets the nomination let's let's reprint this Wendy if we can't as the the -- question we don't have to be gratuitously offensive you because you don't think it was in his right and a -- I'll -- just don't dwell in our -- are troubled by that question the essence of the question I'm troubled by the language. Right okay but it just so you -- said it another way and you say yes senator pellets what your strategy is how can we beat how could we defeat. Senator Clinton how we can we keep her from getting to the white was instead so they throw in the B word and it becomes news because it's sort of like it did in Atlanta."

" Reaction was laughter it's -- sick reaction at a and people should have been uncomfortable but clapping and laughing and he said can I heard an."

" Translation wedding are. Iran you were around CN -- BRI on fox here on this channel that channel you know I've talked on the radio here NI KO. About the coarseness about society devolved Garrett about society the degrading language the everyday language had -- civility -- exactly and so it's it goes beyond the big guys not get up on the train to give DS the seat to a woman. It's guys and gals talking on the train. With the you know every other word is the F bomb every other word is the be everybody of the -- as this in this and that if people did not used to talk about that's what I talk about that you look at 90s that -- actually in here at all -- be grumpy blah blah blah blah blah. It in the context of -- in what has become unfortunately to my year to my senses society. Every day conversational woman says that how to we beat not be. And you don't -- site that it -- you know what would you add. I would not of said what McCain's I would I would of said she'd is probably a bet on it in diet I don't think -- and it's with a 72 hour. Hindsight that I accused you've utilized I just would not want to structure residue it would just it would just it would distract me as odd inappropriate not necessary in in -- do think McCain could have. And I you know at -- I guess you could have done it differently probably should've should've done it differently. Recently some some supporters of his have taken out some but the call independent -- not running them through McCain's they're not all their raising money. And spending money to kind of was answered questions that they think are advantageous to him he's furious about it because it's a pot of campaign finance. Reform -- that -- opposed -- doing something -- opposed -- in terms -- mechanism of -- political -- actually -- of those friends -- to -- supporting -- trying to -- in the -- they disagree -- so they're -- continue to -- but he -- I don't agree -- I'm asking -- don't -- he -- probably said something similar to -- how -- the -- I think -- but -- to make --"

" Well yes I don't present outlets sell you I'd like is that this country wants leadership. They want to good solid trustworthy leadership leadership includes. Being mindful of the things that create instability language like that is -- let's look at I just think that one of the reasons gender is on the lower order of that. Acting hierarchy of isms if you will gender bias and gender -- insensitive language is at the bottom of the pecking order for so many reasons that make me crazy that I disagree with. But it also politically may not be on his radar screen to care very much because in the last election how to the gender -- divide 505050% of women voted Republican 50% voted Democrat nobody cares about women. As a voting block everything she's gonna get the girl vote could she is. Brass and all the women with breast going to vote for I'm not going to vote for anybody because their female but I even care about the leadership. That and then the person who understands the kinds of issues women struggle with including. Language that is offensive to last as a asked in spotted it and say this it's gonna make you crazy you're gonna probably slug me. Am I will slug back by the way -- tough it is it is not wrong to use the word bitch on the -- okay. It made that more comfortable putting the word without the -- In I was pretty complete we're -- use the word bitch gonna talk about the -- women everywhere Ireland in offensive but I can use the word vagina without you -- off your chin."

" Because I don't want to do -- it's my audio. -- no -- what -- say it was okay I just gave a comment about a lecture on civility vulgarity the lousy -- then let's sleep declared I went to you hear -- additional deplete the word -- every time it comes -- hit it you know what we're going to have to -- we won't have to bleep it if you and I just need to be where we're just had to be where I -- let's stop playing Edward and I. Already that other stuff good we were getting when between the main progress is going up the social I have slightly better and I Bradley of this is happening. -- RKO -- thank you very much 6172666860 that we got Wendy we got top let's get DR calls Richie is calling from Boston tomato rich."

" Hello everybody like two quick points regarding -- carpetbagger I would -- that them. Calculations and probably welcomes that term don't -- to a -- to generate sympathy about. And not against that just lucky indeed benefit to begin summit."

" You know what rich I don't care that she thinks it's good for -- politically yeah yeah. -- leadership should are about incendiary terminology marginalized."

" You know we're dealing -- calculating woman. I know I'm Wendy."

" But you but ridge announced suggesting that this was a whole hand did episode the hot hot hot DSL conspiratorial I gave up bought him months ago he's opal it's -- which you can volumes."

" I'm waiting to have been when he was upset by this particular lefties the liberal media -- looked to denounce al franken. Because in his book why -- finalized until dumped several occasions you've -- Colton would the B word. Can -- in the Senate."

" I can I condemn him -- yeah well you know Richie I'm glad you made the point I had not read al franken spoke I don't intent to I haven't read Wendy's but I do intend to so there's a difference there. But I -- I am now Wendy and I here in -- there's a solidarity here and it's a -- female solidarity with both condemning the use of the -- inappropriate -- again -- I'd like your point -- about it's about. Leadership in the as a way to express oneself without being you know -- he had goody two -- sister Mary -- I -- six you can you can still have an -- in a sense of humor in a little -- in the little creativity without getting into the vulgarity it's just not the way people have to -- Christian -- in heaven -- with teaching -- to our kids -- what leadership is about Kathy is calling -- welcome --"

" Hi good morning mister and good morning -- well you're just -- I'd like pressure on the when you really do -- Well I think -- we get to the truth eight -- You know one. Now maybe could be ward wasn't appropriate but let me I don't hear I don't hear her lightning lottery. Our actions cannot blame for what else did that guy is back at more than any kind of independent I -- and and maybe conservative but -- problems."

" Actually by brick -- the -- questions -- your not -- no solidarity the system but because because Hillary is a woman you are a woman you feel this did you job moment to hit the ascendancy."

" not blame my women accused get it because they're not the one I think -- I have been -- 31 years in the the Marine Corps have three onto it Serbs and the grandson signing the papers that's Monday don't let that one minute please for the sake of our military."

" I don't think I am not going to vote for or against anybody because of their gender so there's a sister -- there. But it's you feel how you want about who's responsible it matters how our leaders react on it mattered."

" Lightning do you like Hillary current food action in France."

" I don't blame Hillary for anything she did she deserves response to vote for her and not hold her accountable for -- insensitive things --"

" She responsible for what you get to know what to -- McCain is not responsible. Our --"

" yeah yeah yeah you have to listen closely to what Wendy's saying. When he is saying no McCain's not responsible for the woman who asked the question in use the word but McCain is responsible for his own. Response to that's that's where he has that's what he has control yeah."

" Eat all of these candidates I doubt it every -- because I want to hear what's being said he had a really try and -- you are I'm sorry. He would want to help these troops that Spybot and I don't spotted Irving and talk."

" All right now you. You heard us earlier today in the beginning part of the show we talked about somebody leaving a news on the T. And you know what if McCain thought that was a joke to -- to dry sense of humor it would hurt him. Politically I would care about his failed reaction his inappropriate reaction to the joke of."

" The most of let me let me jump in -- he had a wonderfully dry delivery about the would still like your -- was -- that was at that -- I think that's -- that's probably the best line of the whole campaign. Here's how funny he is another -- no it's not -- it's not -- The line between a -- candidate you know what's good tires that's his problem -- wish you good --"

" Hillary not remember saying any -- a great memory for president come time."

" It's a different I'm not -- and get a lot of my show when I get the final where it's -- as my final word. Thanks to you -- husband and his -- for this service thank you very very much let's go to -- from the -- and I mean I'm serious people who decide -- done is go -- and McCain son has over the mechanic puts his money where his about the educate us on our daughter over -- and -- and bullets exposed to that -- put -- in another league from the ones who don't have children over the -- is vibrant and pace at -- welcome your idea what Todd camp Wendy."

" You know all of you can't stay at -- I have to also good you I'm I'm amazed that our media has discovered gender bias against what politician we were -- into south acquittal of the so -- for president."

" Yeah yeah that's true good point."

" Number 28 only president the only presidential candidate who could really stop that -- it won't let me yeah is it -- Why he's got to the because John Kerry let it should be insulting language is straight talk express if you'd say. You're gonna Eddie -- out out in front property you'll get a book that would -- laughed coldly and get back the."

" It occurred is that our side and out of Evanston so that's on the before. If it was a moment there was a mobile when I was it to its Upton and -- a present trampoline and I it to its but the equipment -- And I we came so close to getting him to honor an expression that none of us would want to -- cells but we do frequently and he never has this close and I decided that was about that would have been the grandest legislative achievement in my career that I got. That I got meant to say the F -- ought to about southern that's baloney he did it till it to his credit he -- until but he was he was he was a millimeter away appreciate the call that the -- hideous Colin hey you did it he welcome your audio Wendy Murphy and Tom Finneran."

" Morning mr. speaker good morning -- all I just want to say that I've always been a Republican all my life. But I play it I was brought up differently and by the came not coming out. Or both basically having a better re action to that statement made I've always been a McCain supporter until yesterday I have -- Hillary Clinton's order"

" that's a 180 do you tackle 100 maybe go -- an easy to catch on on on the failure to do a pervert response he would extend -- But I am the only Anthony Alabi."

" Talk you know what slows -- man an administrator. When you're running for politics everybody's looked and like every. Little word every little movement every little INT and they believe me people want you never gonna get a perfect president. But they want to -- the perfect it you can get."

" okay. But and and so for you however on the basis of that Anthony to go from we have McCain is on. A whole variety things. Don't light the issues that tax issues the Iraq issue campaign Brian it's on and are you goes short black racket you're on the other side of the political spectrum and you fell in love with -- Hillary that it's."

" And this thing he says because there's no other Republican candidates including my friend Mitt Romney now what happens at all. I I have not even -- so I had nowhere else to go she was the best person after that remark -- thought that she was the first."

" Well I think there's room for rate Finneran repeat ticket now that about this stuff Wendy and I got to the -- and evidence gets an already a book by the time and -- 617266. You know I liked the fact that people tease you that I haven't read this all the time -- go into -- public airlines has has he didn't he read the book yet gonna -- make your -- a call I'm not mean of course you see the soft side of him like a big -- Miller -- scholar from Salem AGF welcome."

" Hey hey have a go at great morning. Just so much in -- I think -- strip where years ago Oprah did at our show on the word bitch and she had nothing but women see clothes on. One after another embracing the work -- not want to tip number two the more you. Protest something Wendy the more you're gonna get it. So -- these tough -- women quite. The -- for -- she can't take it you can't -- without tough for the net now I'm very first words. They won the band but after the when you've been trying to get the first we're going to be -- separate hang up."

" now -- you don't want and I. I am very thick -- I do care about the power of language program at school carpet judicial language project we worry about the language does affect and we feel and think about certain specialists is. But interest in this agreement. These are people who will argue that even the -- word should be openly spoken in in public all the time we should just use it does that decrease its power. Decrease starting you know when you -- offensive language since you helped to eat the -- people in society is in a professor at Harvard book. The board in makes the argument were always going to feel marginalized on his words of the bodies out okay and it that the aliens and that he held the captured by the it's weird because of its. It'll ask how much depends you if racism is real just like it only has the power to offend you. If sex is Israel so fine about the idea that at some point we should -- thousand of these words in theory these words do hurt and they --"

" And in Britain let me run countered that theory that in of the -- a professor who wrote the book and other book I haven't read. Not embarrassed to say that I don't plan on picking it up but it's great it's. If that's the theory that this all the languages liberating then you and I -- really in a minority who Wendy because we've agreed we're not going to use this -- American news network. In the course of Iraq conversation in it to change with the audience yet -- very consciously I'm not going to do what you can go to Howard -- you know what he's going to say you know what he's gonna do it's tied its -- it's not creative it's -- it's stupid and it -- lots of people you note offense my wife my daughters my mom so this enough for an audience right now."

" Of culturally weekly evolve to a point in time we might change your mind about the B word right and you might well you know Montana I didn't like the -- words change over time I'm adjusting variants in the meantime the civilized based on current cultural attitudes about the power of these types of arts. We respect the white collar civil old fashioned to score my like down -- scholar from Walpole lay -- your next your Rania with Wendy in Tom."

" Good morning people aren't rates are I'm offended by that that situation I think so see C. Language in general from especially the young population. I have thought this very very prestigious colleges become always. With -- the language is -- or whatever it more I have to QQ. Stop talking like you know oh yeah it's terrible if it really terrible you it it is I can't do that I cannot feel that Eric. And and -- next quite as. I'm more regular riders better. And I am quite -- not because of the comments made in this situation. I'm ready for Telerate. Because America skirt up the world for all on one side and guys let's Trier -- four years I think you will get denomination. I think she's going to be an expert edit and you know what I'll call for early in the am and -- I don't."

" much here. It's funny though -- you -- you're voting for her because it's a vote for change yet how awful lot of people say she is about the most entrenched disabled say now that's what I'm on our voices so the real changes project there which is -- what we're. I'm just sitting if she said girls going to do you had all his his what."

" All of his arrival his what's wrong with that I is this it's when you say when you make a point that G men have made really -- kind of help all of the world and screwed it all up gee let's let's roll the dice -- a woman because apparently the guys just don't have. Well that's not true because the Iraq men who who have made it that answer right and it may very well be women who will. Women have made it will make a difference -- buy EM Margaret -- this one that when -- about and and might be -- but let's do it on its end we had to if we -- that is pointless to on the basis of our -- Joe -- I would be surprised it was. Let's take a call from Tom a bridge want to hate -- up next on parents -- Wendy got top."

" great thank you. Carter had attacked parliament city which McCain it would be a bedecked the Hillary plant."

" Absolutely awesome right until senator would and I don't blow it only go 180 degrees on the basis of a guy and he said he got the past has -- appreciate -- he was on the -- bisons this calls he was on the Fed's Kamal Wheatley is. He was on the sauces what he was are you gotta be kidding me -- scholar from New Hampshire may be a welcome."

" Wendy I don't agree with you but I as well disappoint which which it response. And not all but up that they -- a situation that current. Think that out leadership -- should enable the bank. I brought the angry -- Sure it'll let that upon agreed not changed my mind when we're at the other alright I like they -- a question for you aren't you. Hillary call. Yeah a patient."

" What you talk about me."

" I -- is regarded as well I -- Remember his next partner knows this yet I see I care about gender issues I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton simply because she's a -- me that she about right. I don't want that job but the point is that I think women have to vote smart and you can't just -- like lemmings behind Hillary is she's a girl that makes a sound stupid I -- well and yeah. -- she is not good on women issues that I care about violence against women violence against children she has a bad record she -- and -- Clinton as a bad record that's covered in terms -- if you force -- to -- likely to be supportive of defendants' rights that women are victims rights that's why I don't like that's a lot of Ramsey Joe -- different I was a little bit more aggressive on victims issues -- I would not vote for her because just because she's a liberal doesn't mean she cares about violence against women children liberals often choose the rights of defendants over. The well being and safety of -- I don't care I know."

" That you'll trust me to carry on this conversation with you in -- very fear balanced way because when the American is about to head out to but she's got tips gonna go let's try to answer -- And before we obvious I'm stayed with this topic by going to get to every one of those I'll send me if I get Agassi its -- have to tell can't you promised independent of what I would do my best"

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