Ira Mehlman 10-22-07

" And now we will we're gonna talk about the dream act for a few minutes the dream act this -- is this attempt to. To chip away and get some legislation passed on illegal immigration by the illegal immigration. Supporters those who were in favor of illegal immigration. Are big on the dream act as a way to start. Doing their insidious evil -- and the remarkable thing about this illegal immigration fight is that they keep coming back for more. They get defeated they keep coming back for more. I think we have to look at this. And as Americans say to ourselves what propels them to do what so clearly. The American people don't want them to do what -- propels them to keep coming back over and over again. To try to help people who -- broken into the country to discuss the latest action. In Washington to try to pass the dream act Ira melman joints a spokesman for the federation for American immigration reform known as fair -- welcome to the Howie -- show Todd feinberg here. I don't can looks at first up tells quickly again what the dream -- this."

" But the dream act is an amnesty war allegedly kids who brought the as miners. And -- here it's like -- they have to be here in order to qualify and it they've met those requirements. What they get is that Colin it taxpayer subsidized college its case to. And the green card. Which is precisely why that and -- your first -- at. Illegal immigrant -- come. The answer invariably get what I want to -- my family. And that -- essentially rewards the parents of the children which is exactly what parents and moved further bad behavior. Yeah and it also know what we don't think about the fact that. It's the state universities are finite resource for middle class families that may be the only option get. It's all these days so we're giving away the very valuable seats and then we're asked from the very same family that haven't broken any laws actually subsidize the kids. Who Perez brought into the country illegally and are taking the eats meat they convert to their own commitment occupied."

" But I think Vietnam Democrats and pro illegals. Believe that this is this is a winnable sword fight and that's why now they're focusing on this because they can do the anecdotal the sob story. That works so well in American politics today."

" Our army and there's no question that many of these kids were affected by this work did not make the decision to break -- and nobody blames them but you know any time parents break the market but they're terribly difficult situations. And you know we've we've established principle that -- not let them be allowed to hide behind it. And if you put your kids in that typical situation it's your responsibility he -- they're going to get get it might how they're going to get politics. -- this is you know if you write the this is the strategy to try to make -- feel sorry for -- ignore the fact that this is an amnesty and that's only the first installment they haven't realized that they are not going to get. And sweeping amnesty that the American public what the proponents had decided to break applicable bite size pieces and hope that will swallowed that."

" And is this because they care about this particular policy or because this is a way to. -- to win political points with certain special interests"

" absolutely the latter they they want to win points with special interest they believe that this is the way to crack -- vote United States and in fact you know a lot of the -- say that this. Not what America. Hispanics want they want you know and everybody else wants good quality its case that -- they're not interest didn't amnesty to millions of illegal aliens but you have the cream act which keeps coming back coming every two weeks somebody's -- in the impact users an amendment or standalone bill. You have government that in New York decided that the -- Gee wouldn't it be nice to -- illegal aliens -- complex driver's license but it -- make them available but actually send out written invitation it's hard to fathom what these guys are thinking but you know somebody out there is pushing them to provide also benefits for illegal aliens and they think it's a winning formula."

" Ira melman -- for the federation for American immigration reform the dream act coming up in congress apparently this week you mentioned governor Spitzer New York. And this is an interest in case as we try to do it figure out exactly. Why they're trying to stick it to us he is proposing he's actually issued an executive order as I understand it. That would require the clerks say it in and those whom who control the paper flow in the State of New York. Not to block people from getting driver's license is simply because they don't live in the United States you know or you come in with -- NE -- D he wants to give your driver's license now. It's so Ludacris on an intuitive level to virtually any body that Democrats are now concerned this is going to hurt them in the State of New York. Why would he be doing this"

" you know I think it's pay opera some campaign promises that he made the right you know -- also that New York upwards of 70% of the voters are opposed to this and you know lot of Democrats recognize this is not going to sit well with that the folks back home and yet you know. York was state hardest hit by 9/11 and back -- the terrorists use driver's license. Get on the plane government but it seems Eric give drivers licenses the terrorists as long -- that -- park and that that seems to be inspecting."

" This demonstrates a -- level of malicious -- On the part of those who claimed to be the good government people -- caring people how can you be carrying if you are being malicious towards the best interest to your country this baffles me"

" it baffles me as well you know it is that nobody suffered more from. That these lax enforcement of laws in the country they and lack of attention to our secure right in the country then people in New York. And get up Spitzer. Coming forward and it is even just that he's making these lightened the belt -- governor Pataki. They actually took about a 150000 people they took their driver's licenses away because there was no record them being legal residents of the United States -- couldn't prove that -- well governor it's direction want to send letters that these folks. Saying hey you know we were just kidding come back apply again will be happy -- be. License back he's actually going have sent invitations to people but we're in the country illegally inviting them come take in New York privately."

" This is very scary stuff now you used to work for governor lamm of Colorado. Who has worked hard since he was governor on the illegal immigration thing in. And and develop some numbers I think for how devastating this is for the state of Colorado is that something you were involved with."

" Yes absolutely you know back in the 1980s Colorado economy was very much centered on oil that was an oil but back in the 1980s art think you know we have three dollars a gallon gasoline that -- back then but nevertheless the economy of the -- trouble he was dealing with limited budget. And while -- cutting services everybody else Colorado what he was noticing what that more more of the state budget was being expended on services to illegal aliens. And you know what they responsible public -- is that you know this is not what people Colorado elected. You know the the exercise of public policy is too. Make sure that public money is spent wisely and -- you know stepped -- like that you know can't continue with these kinds of policies. To do something I think that really was the first inclination on his part to get involved in the old debate and he's stuck with that habit."

" And he's developed estimates I forget the numbers of of what it costs for the state Colorado 22 pay the price of illegal immigration -- you know that off the top 300."

" I don't know for Colorado but I know that you know. We're talking about New York it's I'd billion dollars -- year California it's nearly 11 billion dollars a year I misses its significant money."

" No bid by ILA county I think last week said two billion dollars a year -- to pay the costs of illegal immigration as we look at education falling apart in the United States of America especially in urban areas where -- at the failure to educate his criminal. They nobody wants to mention that part of the big burden of educating in the inner city is affecting your dealing with Bob multilateralism."

" Yeah -- you know I I until recently I've lived in Los Angeles more than half of the kids entering the LA unified school district which is the second largest school district and -- more than half the kids don't speak English and not surprisingly more than half of the kids go -- the system never graduate high schools I think it ought to -- the fact that the second largest school system in the United States is turning out an entire generation. The kids we're not going to be prepared to meet the challenge of the 21 -- we think these it's a problem now just wait to return at an entire generation of kids who don't have the wherewithal to be able. Succeed in the 20% the economy we -- going to pay an enormous price not just in terms costs for welfare benefits and other benefit. But you know as we note when you have large numbers of people who don't or not qualified really -- think it's usually -- that's been making trouble and society pays you to -- when that happens."

" And then the social upheaval in the disorder that you create when you invite this sort of underclass is immeasurable I think. Ira melman appreciate your time Ira with the federation for American immigration reform what is you want people to do Lyra as the dream act as legislation once again. Is is come into the forefront in in Washington. That would hurt us an illegal immigration what do you need folks to do."

" Well you know. It may outright but you know we defeated. These sweeping amnesty -- earlier this year because people -- registered their voices with their elected members of congress and I know in the -- Massachusetts you're not going to have that -- and went -- Ted -- in San -- but you know yell and -- let them know let people of the state level because they're the ones -- gonna have to come up with the money that is an unfunded mandate that the state is going to -- come up with soda pop -- that the Governor Patrick -- talked with some of the people on the state legislature because they are the ones -- have -- enormous price -- just is that all the -- message -- well."

" thank you for your time appreciate it. Ira melman with -- Howie Carr show Todd feinberg filling in and there you have of the dream act that would act that is designed to reward families who brought their kids in the country illegally the kids have been in school long enough. And have are going to college or going to in the military. There what they're doing is they're picking away at our resolve by by trying to get something passed to promote illegal immigration. And they're picking something now that it's easier to develop sympathy for because they they import a sad story out there of people all excited. Look at this poor boy through no fault of his Sony was brought to this country. He's about a model citizen he's the kind of guy we want in our country sure that's all well and good who want to nearly. That's all"