Sen. John McCain

" He has mentioned Senator John McCain is joining us here on parents -- he's been with us before it's a delight to welcome back good morning senate up. Good morning how are you I'm doing great although it's so good to have you Sarah and I guess -- in New Hampshire today."

" Actually had headed out to -- in New York headed to Michigan and then back to New Hampshire for Saturday and Sunday. Looking forward to number town hall meetings and have a good time."

" Good trio will senator thanks let's get right to it if we can't settle what we've just talking a moment ago about the debate that was held that the PBS debate on him on black issues are African American issues some critical commentary and -- offered -- young criticism of it for the what I call the big -- that include GO John McCain Giuliani Fred Thompson Mitt Romney not being the I think priceless opportunity to really stand up and demonstrate the black America that the values you hold via. Are important that men would be meaningful to them in the affair was -- mister -- but."

" Well by the time that they had asked we already had very larger -- and -- I did it and I think you know I was the only one accepted the Univision one -- that Hispanic audience but the point is that. I can't -- every one area of I get probably 45 requests that we were different debates. I understand that this is very important and I understand that it's even been made more important sense you know since there was. Not attendance haven't I've we've told to have a smile as people that we would be glad to reschedule. We try and it'd another date and we have rescheduled other debates by the way from time to time one not enough people could show up so. How -- are administered I can't make every line and I would hope that it would judge me by my 2840 year record of relationship with the F and American community. Rather than whether I showed up at one debater."

" Any good just last question on this topic is I really want to talk to about Iraq and some of the other things that you've really been focused on take you know huge national interest any particular plan that you have to try do. Put forward an agenda that would be specific to -- responsive to what it characterized as a black American concerns is there anything that jumps out in your mind that you think would be compelling to the black American community."

" Education and economic opportunity I think two biggest state issues affecting American community. I pledged. Everything I can make sure that we -- education. Progress in education in this country and I think the business opportunities and small businesses in particular as well as. Better retention in its present jobs as well as. Frankly continue to encourage their participation in the arms services states which. I think it's produce among America's greatest efforts American heroes in fact the greatest American heroes."

" So Senator McCain in the democratic to beta but out of the other night Tim russert asked the question there was a hypothetical about torture I think hypothetical specifically was we get lucky we caption the number three guy at Al Qaeda. We learn that he has a credible evidence an information about a bomb that scheduled to go off somewhere in the United States. Within the next two or three days specific question -- of the candidates do you engage in torture in order to extract the information and save precious American lives -- no -- Clinton -- to answer and the like and they all gave an answer I'm sure you're familiar with what they said I'm curious John McCain. American servicemen prisoner of war a gentleman who's been tortured a gentleman served in the United States senate and given you hold Reza make what as president McCain. That hypothetical what does president McCain do under that circumstance."

" Under the -- into one chance I might considerate but does the fact is you don't gain reliable information from torture. We you know inflict pain on somebody they're going to tell you whatever they think you need they think he -- here and the fact is -- million to one chance. And what that issue should have been is would you countenance torture. Which is something that is reprehensible which is harmed America's image worse than anything recently that I know that we have done. -- I. I would have to be convinced and would be almost impossible to convince is certainly -- chance Tom that they're you know that that that you said and maybe take that responsibility on myself as president but that but the policy of the United States of America is never get torched torture a person. And it in our captivity and I just would tell -- that any information we might gain under normal circumstances could never be -- could never counterbalance the damage that it grows it. To our image. As a nation and that I am unalterably opposed I've fought against cruel inhumane and degrading treatment and I will continue to fight against."

" Senator when you were tortured and the north Vietnamese -- camps -- headgear -- of -- Iran arms and shoulders broken in the like -- what type of information where they try to extract and what type of information a response did you give."

" They were trying to get estimate war crimes sick and passions statements against our country initial Iranian military information that you have is rather limited. And that would be the initial interrogations but the long term -- that he. Propaganda statements war crimes confessions tapes it's treacherous so that they can use it you know and that winning the war the way they thought they were going to you know and in and there are in ministry of Washington's efforts Cisco -- And Chicago so. That was their major our effort in that way but I also want to tailor that one of the things said. It made me stronger was right knew that there they do that that -- our Vietnamese captors were our hands. That we would never do such a bank that -- they were -- one stretching my point."

" Oh absolutely no right I IC appoint an awful lot of people over into the Jack -- 24 kind of script and they think -- anything goes and like. You know we gotta Lotta calls yesterday -- I'm curious Canada because this has come up from time to time in the Senate. People talk about sleep deprivation. While subjecting to somebody to extreme changes in temperature very hot then down very cold or even water boarding in your opinion those. That techniques those activities is does that amount to torture opinion in in John McCain's view"

" he generally speaking yes I mean -- some. Aspects of that that may not be that when taken. Jury any -- it certainly is by the way water boarding was technique that's where it began Spanish inquisition. Are we as a nation ready to employ check interrogation techniques that were rounded up. And that Spanish inquisition a bank may be some analysts don't know that water boarding gives one sensational round. And it's horrible and I've never I never experienced by the way but I've been told. That it's horrible and for -- sector employee a Spanish inquisition. Interrogation technique I think it's reprehensible."

" Senator going to shift gears a little bit immigration was a hot topic a few months ago India you tried to appear -- of the comprehensive immigration reform bill it came up short in the Senate. What are you seeing and hearing on the campaign trail what do you how were you responding to the challenge that remains on immigration given the failure of the comprehensive bill."

" We failed because the American people have no traps and cop. It's so they hear Katrina failures in Iraq corruption and so when we told them we would secure the borders it and believe us. We're going to have to convince people that we will secure the borders I still supporting comprehensive approach thank I don't know I you'd. You know we've got to have temporary worker program in my view that works and you got to address issue of the 12 million people -- One of things I would do as president is that I would say that the border state governors have do certified -- their borders are secure and before we move on here other immigration reform Americans are frightened because they. Believe correctly with unsecured borders it's a threat to our actions security -- I regret the level of dialogue. And you know a lot of banks said in in the during that debate but we've got it it's -- got to do -- restoration of trust and confidence on the part the American people in the government which they have. Little or not now as you well."

" Senator read Joe Biden was author of a resolution that got 75 a 76 votes I guess it was may be on Tuesday. And I'm just wondering what you -- take was on that resolution my recollection calls for a very loose almost a federation. It looks like we -- Senator McCain well would do that's what happens when he's on the road we had a that was good that was good I wish we had him for another ten minutes because my god between the Biden resolution on the Iraq resolution that you and that will -- come back if he comes back but the senator it's clearly calling from an airport. And we don't know what the situation once. But 6172666868 is the number idea and Senator McCain is back excellent."

" Right time I'm in I'm an airport and I apologized I never volume when I when I'm doing this but I. And it acts college you know back on."

" Every single listener or got a thousand thousands of them here in Massachusetts and New Hampshire we're all god through it's an advocate calls from airports so we appreciate the extra effort. Sure quick question on the Biden resolution which seemed to suggest that a loose confederation neck Kurdish Sunni Shiah would be might be the way to go and us 75 a 76 votes on -- John McCain's take on the Biden resolution."

" It was censored this and it and that's and that that that says that shoot blanks and I have the greatest respect and and affection for Joe -- I think he's the most good hearted guy in the Senate and I respect. The expertise and talent he has -- national security issues like. I just don't know I you do it I certainly think there's going to be more autonomy is going to be more federalism but over 50% of the population Iraq resides in Kirkuk Mosul Baghdad it by. In live side by side in live in neighborhoods -- captives and massive -- church there at issue it is China partition kinds situation. And it would be incredibly difficult to achieve at the same time it's obvious that frustration that Joe and I and many others feel about the stay here this central government to function I would say 82 that our biggest obstacle right now and in my view is -- the government to function in an effective fashion the military side of the equation I think is on pretty well. But --"

" It does that I I don't does that observation of progress supply in European it to the Iraqi military forces as well as to the American forces the Iraq people -- the Iraq soldiers at least seem to be stepping up the era they're performance."

" They are and man they -- now in neighborhoods all over Baghdad and other parts of the country living in fighting side by side with American soldiers and holds the -- object of this strategy is to have the Iraqi military take over more and more the responsibilities as Americans withdraw to your and eventually would -- completely and we are starting to see that."

" Senator McCain Ahmadinejad was all over the news this week -- visit to Colombia or in his remarks did his speech the United Nations in his United Nations speech he seemed to suggest that as far as he was concerned. The case was closed about Iran and its nuclear -- its nuclear activities almost really a defiant tone to the United States. Great Britain France Germany alike as president what what options do you think of the best options for the United States to pursue."

" At the end of the day we can't allow Iran to have nuclear weapons -- Evans said that I think you're seeing movement right now particularly with orchestration of the new president of France. That we could impose meaningful financial trade diplomatic and other sanctions the Iranians which I think could have significant effect Iranian economy is lousy each other human rationing yes because they have. So little refining capacity but because they got a lousy government they got a lousy economy I think we could. Could have significant effect. If we would act together our big problem UN Security Council as you know as Russia and China are block everything so you get together what I call a league of democracies. That controls heck of a lot of the world's economy and and other sanctions and really act significantly which again we hear the president of France talking about seriously. I think you could have some effect but at the end of the day we still can't well they have their weapons."

" I just want to laugh armed talk show hosts not supposed to do this but I want to offer my my praise and compliments to -- in the your position on the move on dot org -- I speak is a Democrat senator I found it repulsive to say the least. Absolutely repulsive and I admire you swift attack on us as and I as being that and thank."

" It's time that I just mentioned real quick idea I -- this whipped vote ads that attacked Kerry and I also attacked those ads that attacked my friend max Cleveland fellow Vietnam veteran well. We should stop this kind of stuff."

" Before we let you go senator we know what what it is like in India put that I'm going to borrow okay a question from. -- rust at the other night he -- the different candidates what the F favorite passage was from scripture right wonder what John McCain turns to. When you know you have those lonely and you know. Serious moments what passage of scripture jumps out."

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" I I really think that that the phrase that that followed me it is. It is is really want to others issue would -- want -- that you know what you're really the golden -- when you get down to -- everything else --"

" Everything flows from that Senator McCain week we're grateful for the time you welcome here any time we got a big big audience in New Hampshire and Massachusetts and you know a huge 50000 watt signal. And you are patriot and a scholar and a good good guy and a great candidates -- stay with -- anytime -- you can call any time. Even from an import I -- Senator McCain -- thanks thanks to him and his team -- getting on here -- for a when we come back we're -- some -- calls on my comments on what Senator McCain has just -- with -- on -- for -- 680 WR KOO"