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PAUL CELLUCI
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PAUL CELLUCI

Published:Fri, 7 Sep 2007
Description:Former Massachusetts Governor and former U.S. Ambassador to Canada Paul Cellucci joined us to talk about taxes and why he has hit the campaign trail for former New York Mayor and possible presidential candiate Rudy Giuliani.
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" We've got at a very famous guy on Asia is -- I would add that for sure and -- which titled call this -- I was governor of the state of Massachusetts is ambassador. Sure -- moment garlic everybody else parties operate but he's also helping his -- mayor Giuliani who we talk to about ten days ago was up New Hampshire. So welcome governor ally."

" I'm Greg -- want to echo your here's your comments about the the fire version of the most difficult. They had had a doing my four is discover analyst who. The six as we lost it was so with the cold storage warehouse that the courage of these men and women which is amazing and we -- reverser."

" Yeah thanks to that and it. -- we're coming torched which title army generals you have"

" you can call -- all --"

" And -- I'm a gallon a year -- which which more what does public just what these -- governor or ambassador that's."

" usually in the US -- comic governor up in Canada com."

" you're you're got you like. Like we have Mary that was that was in national holy see but -- you can."

" Canada was good we got a big economic relationship with Kansas 600 billion here and trade would. Wolf oil from the Canadians that we get from Saudi Arabia most people don't."

" Real unique got to go to lorch -- general over we thank them well I don't go to -- Undated what you call it good allies particularly good on the terrorism front and."

" We have a little dispute with -- about the northwest passage because I agree with the Canadians they think it's. The sovereign land of Canada we've US citizen has historically that it should be. In international waterway but I think in the age of -- We wanted to because not a candidate as a global warming continues that becomes shipping -- I want the Canadians have been able volvos ownership so make sure that don't have weapons of mass destruction on"

" mama was gonna brother Jeb governor slash ambassadors slash. Helper what do Richard Tyler with to have the mayor which is final which doctor would run out -- Our senior adviser. Yeah is that like he gets to be he gets -- as -- be Vice President at least recognized law"

" I don't know about that I am just happy to to help Rudy I think he's an extraordinary leader. And I think that's what we need to leave the Republican Party and certainly -- to be in the life."

" I got us are -- this not a serious question but I gotta ask you in the league and who is she too short to be president. Of course -- jacket and his jacket. You -- after the all -- meant to -- I I actually interviewed him here is that these he was innocent reassurance -- you want to talk about taxes to believe governor do we."

" Yeah I mean governor Romney's than New Hampshire talking about his tax -- have -- I was with. Rudy Giuliani -- that is ago on Manchester it was talking about his taxcut program -- I think. Approaches the Republican candidates for president all have programs to reduce taxes on the American people in the democratic candidates you can bet will be. Raising taxes starting with letting the bush tax cuts expire so what Rudy Giuliani says he wants to. Mick the bush tax cuts permanent he wants it indexing Alternative Minimum Tax which originally was. Also effective 155 wealthiest people in the country and now it's. Millions of middle class families. He wants to end the death tax he -- a little corporate tax rates encourage our economy to be competitive these should be Europe the world we want to retirement savings accounts helped here insurance tax exemption hustled him. He's got a comprehensive program to cut taxes that I at all Mets Upton and today he's got a comprehensive program cut taxes but. The point I Wanamaker is that Rudy Giuliani has done it he was the mayor of New York City he wouldn't -- that was the crime capital of the country it's just had. It was spirit it was purity and had high welfare rolls -- actions of people kind of Drew their hands up and -- you know you really can't government. New York City it's too big Rudy Giuliani did not accept that any turned it into. Large city -- one of the safest cities in the country complained about the get rid a lot of well. Violent private bills whatever that any crime you know the squeegee guys -- it wouldn't stop at a red light."

" Mama governor Paul Cellucci an Austrian bastard easier talking about his body and and and maybe running mate maybe or maybe salute maybe going to be -- Giuliani's approach. Colorado -- Matt that's -- that's not art let me envelope push back but that's Cuba's at all. The -- the great governor -- an event or governments choose an ambassador. The great hockey player and across area in Canada also is full day to launch -- government that -- agree that it's nice 187746 43 to talk to governor. Which I think he -- what does -- on the money business with Richard guy with with me -- yeah he he comes in he's got he's he's got. Money the studio tonight is -- a deficit he does good but does the also lead to see little deficit we left."

" But -- so I think that the city in pretty good shape I mean basically when your budgeting for. The big city or state like Massachusetts when the original budget request command. They always -- what's available -- and during the the process by which you establish a budget you beat back to request and you may 12. Than 12 Korea balance budget it and the other pretty busy cut taxes when he retires and and the reason I I point this out -- these were broad based tax cuts income tax rate was cut 25% and we actually that benefited. The families in the businesses of -- you know mayor Romney was governor here in Massachusetts for 40 years and you know he had it feels tax policy and he. Adjusted the capital gains tax once without those will not broad based tax cuts the continue to benefit the people of the state in the businesses of -- that."

" It now and I eagle that that's that's fair is fair to graft or veto the the other former governor. Surrounded today I got a book and governors -- Paulson -- form a governing how you doing Ron how about this was does your guy Giuliani. Have any leg to stand on without 9/11. I pretend I can eat pretty you've got worry is not."

" I think it's certainly isn't helping them in terms two. People around the country knowing who is that is strong leader earth is now. What I liked about the debate the other night at the New Hampshire is that he was able talked about his record as mayor of you know I don't think people in. Texas and people in the telephone -- in other parts of the country. Recognize what incredibly. Tough situation he inherited in New York City -- what an amazing job he did. Turning things around that he change the culture and that's city he cut the welfare rolls cut. The primary cut taxes he impose fiscal discipline."

" You -- compelling candidate means no question governor -- got a -- salute you all the bastard but it which would talk about he gives call 877 point. 694 street -- talk about taxes obviously likes to and I we had to do -- What has the dynamic changed from the mayor for your guy. Now the final is six foot five actor senator named Thompson finally get in the race and the Jalen does that change for your --"

" I don't thanks I think. Rooted in the front runner I think he continues to be different -- I think. I think the problem Fred Thompson Aziz stayed out so long that the expectations and now hide them. And I don't think he's going to meet those expectations I mean we're happy he's in the race."

" Are you really more the merrier seriously you want another guy on the stage with a blue suit and -- to. I want another as a lot of."

" Other major candidate -- definitely got a lot of fringe candidates on the stage in the more major candidates are I think the better it is for Rudy Giuliani."

" It's distracting have now nine Tim what do the numbers aren't honest."

" Some of these fringe candidates will be in the drop populist my opposite that Willis that he. As they don't move much in in the national polls in the multi candidate race. Is good for -- Lives because. Everyone else's is kind of fighting could be the the most conservative of the conservatives Rudy who has a record of fiscal conservatism and cutting taxes and you actually is it is it is more in the middle on some other issues."

" Like like like guns abortion."

" He is there an everyone else's is to his is right on on these social issues that. Even the social conservatives a lot alike and Rudy because -- strongly that they -- is going to keep America on the offense against terror. The -- did prone Yasser Arafat that meeting they they they know cleaned up. We yeah hitting -- in the photography on 42 street they've always struggling -- gets results."

" Are you want it he's got you decide what which can't be too bad let it you additional calls governor or perhaps well we expect him. People any sometimes when I'm hogging at the air well -- J -- early -- on governance which correct time."

" Colonel welcome back -- welcome back yeah governor as. We respect to point of view about. I'm just simple disclosure right my text of one of those fringe candidates -- credo who has stood. For a -- behind immigration enforcement for years and years not at this late moment here's my problem through. And believe me there's a lot of folks like me who want. Very very badly does support him we've really want to."

" I'm Jim get your body."

" Look at it personality we need principle we need principle on his principles. Primarily our liberal for you just sit there and say he's he's respectable -- by conservatives in the party. That's just not."

" Break in the -- gym and in fairness he's got a lot of pulleys. The tournament but he's leading polls."

" I mean you can simply want that George -- said that his leadership of New York City was the best example of conservative. Governance in this country in over 50 years. So and look at what the club for growth said the boat his fiscal policy is look at what the Cato institute's -- record but he he. He is the fiscal conservative. Cut taxes he cut the welfare rolls with a lot four conservatives also likable."

" Jim thanks for the call and -- vigil until I lied it's going to be -- couldn't -- Benjamin -- you're on the day one. More importantly --"

" It's -- not a problem why not Ali Larter and finally died here paranoia I -- Its glory it's not a girl I apologized -- I."

" I would quarter rate and -- 40 years ago that the -- there there are always 30. But he did everything -- the conservative numbers of there he brought about the the economic operations the bought. I went back there when he was mayor. I -- something couldn't believe -- would hold onto their trash until he got away to order and throw it in the wastebasket. When I follow it up there people would crush something just brought on the air about the city."

" And I would have been -- that you know the nickel after the petty crime and is set an example on that culture reduced to serious violent crime."

" Well thanks thanks -- and I apologize for the staff and I tell me LO RI is a guy. Angie thanks like to call I'm off with governor slash ambassador slash. Helper possible secretary of state Vice President -- are maybe ever -- with him with great mayor of New York job. Mayor Giuliani gives you call 8774694322 not -- Angelo was a guy I'm just jacket. -- Angeli early Dave hunt and governor Sochi where"

" that was some shock from an actual area. I'm sure given similarly -- Chelsea went a -- of Boston him six what sort of a play and do you feel that bad the Republicans -- tournament -- the elimination commitment to penalize those police officers military. Schoolteacher in its -- All that work out all the allowed opponents assault security as well as stated dooms we're going to the public employer as well military people as well the -- that. That the next government as good as the Republican will be able to eliminate this unjust action on. What actually referring to -- yeah about the went for elimination provision which I'm qualifies all additional security earnings. For retirement."

" Yeah I mean I think if you elect a Republican they're going to have a you know have a much had a chance to straighten that out that if elected Democrat -- democratic house all the Democrats are all all four raising taxes. It lets not forget what Rudy did when he was mayor and we actually you know. The wolf 45 Democrats on the city council on the -- six Republicans if he gets 43 tax cuts through he got"

" CUC's did you decide the level. He is -- sought only 50 he's he's demonstrated that it doesn't just let them talk about it he gets to run out."

" Angela thanks you call Steve you're on the day fund and governor ambassadors -- with the mayor Giuliani grant Steve. You know Steve. Steve de -- Governor salute -- Dave ongoing Dave."

" Good morning accident back -- You'd have to -- Early morning -- our right our with our governor Giuliani is absolutely the best pieces star he's the leader line. Just look at I mean and I don't -- look as well look look but he didn't like it that look pretty it to 9/11 with but he -- that -- He's the only guy it's going to take on Hillary. And not -- technical"

" RB -- is -- your big thing."

" everybody else -- included. And by that we what do lately he has been only 250 foot around they're gonna play nice. They're going to be correct literacy Giuliani which had her in the debate."

" Governor governor can can brought -- earlier I'd be taking your guide the the presumptive Democrat what you one thing's going to be Clinton."

" Because this is a very good point I mean I do believe Hillary will be the democratic dominated I think Rudy Giuliani is probably the only Republican a computer. Many got to remember that with the with the war in Iraq and the dissatisfaction. That the Democrats has the edge of the what happened and in the last election."

" And they -- and I honestly party get more seats in both houses."

" Intimate there's going to be total countervailing forces in this election one is going to be. The desire of the American people that try to bring troops home from Iraq it looks like equipment and some progress on net but the countervailing force and -- that. That friend is going to help the Democrats but the countervailing forces at the American people are still very aware that we are a packet for the terrorist we saw what happened. In Germany just yeah."

" Benevolence two days earlier benevolent one day and then Germany."

" Took two days and erode the Paris they want to strike Americans so protecting the American people from this terrorist threat is going to be enough."

" Do you say -- you when -- utility as -- this is a -- I mean I don't mean it's a big deal."

" Rudy Giuliani will keep us on the offense there is no doubt about it."

" How -- Monday -- going to 14 day thank you call Rosemary I'm pretty sure this is a day. Because I got suckered with -- Rosemary -- bond and more importantly governors Lucci for our mayor Giuliani grid Rosemary."

" Flying out the -- and they have been probably been -- is thank -- I look like the governor we miss you and I human I think you're old Apple order if you want to see it being election and they sit and think I think company Giuliani. And -- Hillary Clinton will at least get people out to I'm -- and I'm doing much I'm voting bloc. But I'm gonna -- federal republic and -- going to be Julia and a lot"

" let it given how do you get in your if your help and -- More people to vote for president and voted for American Idol is not going to be problems getting the vote out."

" Well I think dramatic at a presidential election I think -- in the issues countries -- I think it's going to be the turnout election and I agree with Rosemary it's is probably going to be a subway series Rudy versus Hillary it's like having -- the nation. And I think there's going to be an awful lot of attention I think people are worried about. This terrorist threat I think they're worried about the economy whether two put food on the table and they do want troops that all of -- so so there's a lot of big issues out there that are on the minds in America."

" you guys a leader your guy that's that that's my doctor Miller time. What would have to break we'll get maybe you know look deep freezes you -- to craft called up with a time problem governor. Yet but yeah where we're -- animosity asked the governor if you want UN -- call I won't call you and all of them."

" I can stay for about 15 model that I -- stability airport."

" Okay great thanks will then we'll take a break we'll be right back with governor bad message -- take more calls. I'm -- finally car."

" Thanks Rocketboom. Not time junior. Thank you very much. The last EZR ones in the jungle and mining it days that I could."

" More importantly we got on with governor and former. Ambassador to Canada Paul salute -- who's helping the khmer. Mayor Giuliani -- an -- Giuliani's dellucci ticket I'm portion right now 1877469432 to jump line it's 6177793469. Emails and -- carded WRKO dot com. Got a few more minutes with the governor is coming up to stick around before it -- picks -- family members. At Logan Airport governor I should stick around by the way what's the difference. Layman's terms of region examining his major. I got to -- your garbage like instant. One between what Romney's pushing for tax cuts and what. Mayor Giuliani and one called let's make governing -- an air New York City mayor Giuliani's. I tax proposals."

" Well I think they both have substantial tax cut proposals as to just about everyone of the Republican candidate I don't think the differences in. The details I think to differences and -- you think can get it. You know when I was governor of Massachusetts income tax was five point 95% the temporary tax and Michael that Pakistan. Put any raise it from five to five point nine. The Democrats won one kind of they cut a lot of other taxes the world that I had 40. Tax -- but. They want cut this in complexity to give up the revenue and so I I took after the ballot I got the signatures and that the F with the putter on the ballot raise money for the TV ads in support of that I debated for a different democratic leaders on statewide."

" I don't think the mayor resistant. Well you know let us."

" Absolutely like I got that the voters approved by tax cut kidnappers -- 41% and a one. Five point 95 the five point three before the legislatures that that's over a billion dollars for the that people and the families of Massachusetts don't have to pay each and every it Romney was elected phenomena bring back the 5%. From five point three when he left the Texans still five point three Rudy Giuliani said he was going to cut taxes -- York City unique that it 23 -- point 5% reduction in the Indian excellence to have the determination to get it done in the leadership again"

" Can I think it's going to be if he's going to be difficult. With his two did you think he's going to work with the White House 31 Republican who went. It seems to be at both houses of the gold Democrat even more. I might that's might that it's going to take -- Republican president a tough time I also think we might be helpful for your guy anybody else we can't have bush Clinton bush Clinton. -- Clinton bush -- bush Everest I think that's going to stop particularly day fund and and governor and ambassadors -- would think Richard."

" All right guys first I want to -- for the country the other two point my first point is almost all of those are. I was started -- problem in New York City back about 199091 through about 2000. They I was very process with all the improvements as the video and it made Giuliani. So you know -- people's sleeping in the street -- people -- washed -- those. And music acquired so I think he actually putting some sort of Norton's the cavs couldn't. You know on unnecessarily."

" Rich you don't think -- is that the mayor needs training wheels he think he's ready to be president."

" Or yup my my my second point oh my my a one more important to our question was. For our governance dellucci is how do you feel. You feel that that mrs. Giuliani is going to do a better job of weathering the political and media storm and -- Teresa Heinz."

" It's gonna get ugly governor. Lies Arnold -- not over yet."

" I was working rupiah and his wife just the other day in the final look prep sessions -- the debate she's a very. Intelligence estimating and issues great support of or for her husband I think she's not a religious."

" That's Richard Floyd you know that Soviet government and when -- mean they're not they're not we've lost one. I agree on yourself."

" Pretty gritty get the question the other night about his personal -- a look at. I want you to look at what I as -- podcast series let's have accomplished what I've achieved and -- if it. And it while the other."

" Good lie at its its. There's battle he he's not he's not perfect AG GG just to god has served. He's an al all of us edition I'm from me I'm just Elliott -- I don't. It -- pinnacle animal we're -- his his stay here on the -- and governor Paul smooch we think we shall"

" and and that the -- Thank you Julian yes I think now that I'm and that the -- I think that. It's that time and ethnic."

" I asked I just to the governor balked at. You don't think that that makes a difference yet and yet he's very close to your guy governor in the polls aren't close."

" And so doesn't make a difference what I didn't think he becomes the major candidates now it is in the race some sand. It's not going to affect the the progress the front runner status of Rudy Giuliani nationally and I don't think it'll affect the front runner status. That -- on the system or."

" In the coming -- how easily attitudes haven't. He's out of work a little bit before India."

" He's number 2 yeah any -- any huge number two without even sign up now we signed up we don't think that's a big deal. I can't take this -- granite."

" I think he may well have -- Time will tell you are right on the."

" Well it is going to be going to invite president and the Vice President at area around yeah. He got. That's tops its jets and he liked this blog relatives want and governor slash a masters slash advisor helpful friend to --"

" It the united opportunity I don't very good how -- you very good. -- item in question I want to bring now."

" How are you going to get a few you get one call."

" that I don't think we're into the write any that yucky and all the rated why it is that because it is. You point are against the conservative traditional conservative view is that the Republican Party you out like --"

" Always supporting. Yeah -- all your good me -- is there any cheers and help this guy getting out of New Hampshire hello. -- okay well not. These what he's he's agreed to -- each have a lot of fun on television he taken out of Manchester what are you talking about. That -- every can it already got -- Frank you're -- on -- last album gonna go to cup the Stanley and thanks to governor frank on the day fun with football salute you for the last goggle eyed frank."

" Hello -- as a very good reasons also Lucci is is backing Giuliani like a bolt gun bandits. If -- Rudy Giuliani gets in as president he walks reassign these federal assault weapons ban."

" Sure I'll let let let's -- Governor we think about."

" Well I think the mayor has been pretty clear about this that he believes and states rights and these decisions federal system put the states and they he make certain decisions as the mayor and they actually because -- it was the crime capital of the country in the murder it was a country."

" Crowe is still sanctuary city to governor."

" He had to make it a safer city any any had a lot of the safest cities and the compass Nationalists yeah but the people who live there and for the people who work there for the people who visit pink Cadillac sort of been saved because of his has always seize our guns is believed that he believes in federalism this is an issue for the states."

" Frank thank you caller -- but I well good luck to you as Vice President. Sad Giuliani salute she didn't think I think it's got it admirals and you don't. And you gotta go to the airport thanks to stick around everything to -- thank you welcome and good. -- we got this show them. This issue of national blog likable college I mean to governor did good nice job for a job at supporting is no question I I do think that Thompson covenant is going to be dealt with that -- get. A pass and -- people stuck with him it still here on the Dave hunt I would not want to have to wait hugest Lakers would take a break. And compact and a few minutes tackle politics it's funny stories and then we go Michael's island at 4 O'Clock the moment -- like they were. -- like -- The moment this -- and -- car"

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