Barry Finegold

This is Tom Finneran you are listening to parents forum on eight M I 680 WR KO. Hey listen we had joined on the lines by a former colleague of -- representative Barry gold every Feingold what I say every -- representative -- Feingold Democrat from hand over warrants also a candidate to succeed Marty -- and congress special election coming up in early September and Barry is the author robbers then centrally involved in that. Baby safe. Haven act -- Feingold welcome back to parents forum.

I'm addicted to hear from me this morning it and that beyond. Thank you very much you -- what an quickly sketch for for the listening audience baby safe haven. Act what is this propose what is this legislation all about and tell us about the recent action on it all be.

For 2004 we have a rash PPP and -- on the side of history in any airport bathroom Beijing newborn babies were being discarded. And I felt that we need to do something and I heard the other states have put forth being called safe havens. Where why a mother could bring -- newborn to a police station fire station. Or emergency room with in the first seven days no questions asked and so we what we did back in in 2004 as we said okay we're going to give it to try. And we had many critics is set to -- well 88 united -- want -- not to work and be for anybody that he used gave you're going to lose their biological records. So we have what was called in the legislature on -- that by 2008 the law would go way map. We convinced the other members of the general court that the -- work. And we extended so what we recently did as he brought up an interesting information. That is three years that I only have we saved one -- we actually exceed six. And -- and -- that babies we were able to get all their biological record. So we totally proven the critics wrong. And recently we've passed the bill overwhelmingly in the house and overwhelming in this that it. And died yesterday governor Patrick and lots and now -- lost permanent that -- Massachusetts we we do you have a safe havens -- that. If you -- a tough situation if you don't know what to do. Don't do these irresponsible thing discarded baby somewhere bring this newborn to a police station emergency room or fire station. It will make sure that baby end up with a look Hamlet.

Barry I assume this is just kind of a general assumption on my iPod toes -- into the if you have good data to the contrary let me know. But that this probably not that it's used a lot but that is probably used most frequent late. By somebody who's young and pregnant very frightened in gives birth somewhere outside a normal. Delivery room situation.

Exactly mean most of the time it is it is it is late teens early 20s. And does that situation where you have some it was very confused. Someone who's very scared. And bit bit -- quietly designed to make people do what we consider to be responsible thing. Instead of acting irresponsible you know at some of the father myself I have a three year old wonder I don't know anybody could even consider giving up they're new form but there are circumstances out there -- popular to do that. And what we want to do in this state is give people choices and we feel that this is there a responsible choice and we believe that -- work.

Barry imagine that the data that you know when we when it was passed in 4 and it's then as you say sunset it up until yesterday when the governor signed it and now it's part of a permanent legislative permanent Laura Massachusetts -- would mention that they had been some via by a opponents. That the you'd lose all the medical information the biological and medical information associated with the baby but he said the data. That you've got back it has just proven that what it. Actually has the experience than does the mother after she surrenders the baby. Come back get another time voluntarily and.

What's been going on yet that has basically been able to track down mother and the mother's been very cooperative. So -- and there have been some cases where the mother has voluntarily I've given this information so six six Dewitt media that tracking the mother down all the -- giving up this information voluntarily it is -- work. And you know. We never thought I'd never I actually thought that we did that have -- that we would be a good portion of one's biological records. And that happened happened up in another thing don't want to point out too is that we also have a hotline for people with call we've had 35 different cases we've -- beauty of the council young women. To either consider going through the adoption -- or take other -- would consider responsible that. Instead of doing something that would you're responsible so not only have we saved thick black who also that we need help. You know at least 35 other cases where these young young woman have taken pro active steps to put that new warning to a safe place.

You know very inevitably this touches upon the most fundamental and profound questions how we view human life whether we value it. And cherish it -- not clearly UN I would. Cringe at the stories that we would read from time to time about and then Indian -- abandoned in a dumpster -- just left. Somewhere around on the back step to die issues -- exposure to the elements. And it it seems to me that you -- the other members of the legislature involved in this have. He bridged the divide that is very difficult to people they get across and it's kind of the the different points of view on pro life. Pro choice.

It is it one of the only piece of legislation that I've been involved with sample the pro -- community and the pro life community has endorsed. And you know I think sometimes in politics there's need to be a third way and and I do believe this is one of the third -- that can be a win win -- in the days wedding we have not mention we also now have six Italy's. In the commonwealth that might not have been able to have children. And now have a beautiful baby you know council we made that at least six families in the commonwealth. Get something that they might not have been able to do and I think that's also on another side bar on that use the great thing about -- law as well.

Yeah I mean again you know my job up I have a pro life Democrat unabashed an apologetic and very very. And a focused on on all those issues and I can't say anything but positive stuff about -- than that in the end says choose life embrace life value it in in this case your right six. Other web probably otherwise childless but we you know whether they had children there on -- not. We're ready willing and able to become adoptive parent adoptive families. And have done so now. Without the mother of the biological mother facing criminality without the baby being abandoned and left to die so it it seems to be as. As trivial as that might sound seems to be win win win situation all around the board

and it does that mean the way that we put forth this law in this state other states have copy New York Hawaii.

Just going to ask you about other states locally as well as nationally what is it is there a trend to whip people you know -- other states -- following the -- hopefully.

First start there there was about at least 23 states that at this. Play now -- it's about almost 98% of the country now the BBC even laws in place I'm not sure the other -- that they -- doesn't have a but it it's almost all of them. Of that that haven't. And because -- it's something that's working and it's something that that you you don't understand why anybody would do this you know I was. I was -- you know. Three year old -- almost turning for it is the greatest -- one at that she would tell me that this is going to turn -- that she can now wear make up about here within minutes signal that when you

welcome to that would help we are bad what I now yeah here it'd hit Darius the counseling just say no ha ha -- It -- father has to be that tough guy on this stuff on the make up the year ratings at all that probably.

Let you know if it is beautiful thing with with young children and you don't understand how anybody would ever do anything like this but I do believe it's about giving people options in society. You know that's what we've done. And that that's why I think you know this is that this bill has passed overwhelmingly that's what the governor decided that we didn't go to -- try to promote it. It's still going to try to get it out there young people especially you know those who work there are typical state.

Yeah I just let them know that there's an option curious Barry was there any debate or dissent done at this time around dog was the you know although was it was a unanimous in both branches.

It would it would very close to unanimous in both branches and you know I -- think that. You know the biological records with a big stumbling block for -- the question need. -- a but he could take advantage of it and the fact that it literally three years -- tactics cases that you not want any the biologically active. The effectiveness of hotlines 30 but I decide cases where people have used -- help. I think it's tough to argue that it now work you know I think that's why it was such overwhelming success collectible --

Barry let me switch quickly to electoral politics -- try to be fair here around -- going to reach out to the other candidates and perhaps even two way you know a candidate's night as we can think through those issues you're involved in a special election to succeed congressman Marty Meehan I think the primary is September 4 the sector route.

Yeah after labor day sure everybody's in the cook up anything good about --

Opt -- he'll hit 47 -- on laid on labor day Monday to try to just remind people any any issues any big issues emerging from you know you yup yup time spent out on the campaign trail Barry.

Well I mean I I think people are very much talked about the warning Iraq people want to see direction want to go to different direction. In what George Bush is proposing I think people are. Very concerned about you know health insurance the fact that there's -- people in this country that aren't short have been the final thing that people really thought about it environment and people are. Very concerned -- global warming up having to reconcile with the pain of the pomp and you know I you know people that are blue collar workers trying to make ends meet you know when you have to pay you know 3540 -- the pump. It's very difficult so I think this country need to find alternatives and that's -- an added -- would like to work.

Now I don't drive -- big -- it all I don't think anybody would consider to gas -- 48 bucks to fill it up yesterday yeah.

And that's just it it just topic you know everywhere getting squeezed every which way anyone but themselves with the college you wanna you know. You know do things that are prescription drug it is people getting squeezed every different ways and it's harder harder to be in middle class in the state and I think that's where a lot of my focus would be college group of people.

Marion we had I think it's Jim -- husky republic one of the Republican candidates are refresh my memory you'll get about six seven -- on the democratic side.

Yeah we actually have three state -- miceli might now. And that we have Eileen Donoghue and Niki Tsongas about five Democrat that. A whole host of independence and and a couple Republicans you know it it's been a very near spirited debate on the democratic side you know I'm feeling very good about things we party made over hundred own qualities we can't it is not over over 10000 doors. The grateful 8000 dollars and we don't feel very good about it it is in the accounts to make sure that people don't forget to vote out before.

Well again Barry appreciate anytime you can come on the air with us and you kind to -- call. Can I yelled let me -- if I -- Haiti and he can we could put Katharine -- on what -- Feingold -- let's take a call pat from -- is Colin and about the -- safe haven law. Pat welcome to parents for me alive on the what Tom Finneran and Barry Feingold.

Thanks appreciate it -- less attractive bad speaker. A baby shake it like a wonderful I think you'd think such as special I think. I wouldn't do I want a granddaughter look at her with makeup people the Yugoslav act so desperate they don't let people make up on racial and whatever. I guess -- that that is elected I have seen women in positions it's not an easy decision and I really think what he's preventing that which is immediate and done apparently. In the -- statement of how would you feel relevant and so I think you'll I would never do that but you know if you if you must but that.

Well I I I think it Barry's defense pat did that Barry was that guy really in my recollection is back in 2004 before Massachusetts have a consider this. Barry was the guy who was pushing pushing it precisely for the reasons you just stated. A while Welby and you -- Barry might not really be able to relate to or understand the circumstances that would open force somebody push somebody to giving up a newborn son or daughter. The Iraq people out the and we both. I'm a pro life Democrat he's approach is Democrat. Everyone becomes tired of reading the stories about a baby just abandon the dot star. We're just left to die in it to the elements exposed to the elements -- left to die because of the the fright the -- the panic whatever it might be in the NN in the -- I don't I I don't. I didn't latest comments to be negative in in any way of all less than sympathetic and empathetic to somebody who comes at a from that challenge --

And you know one of the things that I you know when I start first that a working on the -- is you know I was talking with gynecologist they would they would help me you know lot of these these these younger mothers would be denials into the seventh eighth month. And that is it's really a psychological thing so I totally sympathize and I you know even -- I I wouldn't do this myself. It's not because it's not that I don't sympathize. Where are trying to understand what people going through and that's -- we want you people option. Because if we don't give people options did their their potential corner and that force sometimes these things that they don't want to do. And that's why I think it's still -- has worked I think you'll see it work but they're allowed to do responsible thing

a Barry believe it -- not of might actually turn into a candidate's night you might be the only candidate I'm not going to make this a forum on on the election but with got a gentleman caller from east and Peter is on the line from east and he wants to ask you about drilling in and walk the -- Arctic refuge PD -- they hear what Tom Finneran and Barry Feingold.

I like act like the winds are. Yes okay are you order on Wanamaker independent now -- we going to be independent we wrote in on why are we in Rio in western. Our goals are without 30 years ago -- a year that -- led nowhere are these are not yet and not -- and.

That that that the province because 30 years ago president for the President Carter told country that we an energy crisis. And the question is what have we done. In 30 years. And I do believe from the new technologies are the future I do believe some data that we can be our Asian economies and instead of putting gap in your car you can put Asia. And the thing about it there are you know eventually over the next year he knew little Logan Airport you're going to ride on hydrogen but. We have the commitment to make -- these things happen that can't happen. You know that the house energy bill -- 12 billion dollars that we spent one month in Iraq. So I do believe this is the future I do believe that we have to find a alternative to get oil because we long term.

That there we read that we need to find out -- the question whether the that the government hagel will the government does not have a will right now not a problem. If people -- Asian -- That happened the weather the bulk we had not -- in the nation to be independent but had on people so. Not on sorting out. You know I like I couldn't disagree more because when president Kennedy two we got it it was -- we added.

Everywhere I went here a look at I can't let Barry answer the question I have got posed the question and interrupt the guy gets in that a year I didn't get it now because his because of his history -- that's relevant go ahead Barry

because that's exactly what did the long term thinking that we have Washington right now it too far away we can't do anything we don't have a political well. But what president getting that we need to enemy after the moon we have is that what 89 years whatever I want. And why can we have a -- type of commitment like it we put the dollars. To help these companies and and help to read certain Ford now look at it may be based on wind -- might not be but I think this is a commodity rate the moon. And we have to find alternative we can't take it is. Old school of thought well you know we can't we can't get -- for addiction to foreign oil in the country goes to a 140 billion gallons of -- We couldn't get the federal government to increase cafe standards we have to do better -- it is not acceptable.

Bill Clinton and a year ago he thought I'm going on while everyone whether it. Right now -- you know that would be taken out out of American while wife of -- we can now it's sort of sort of crisis they want it to the out. Strategic petroleum was on the lot where it went on what looks like ten -- in my you'll. And wouldn't it artists 67 bucks -- just like -- went up we have are that the -- It besides illegal they want to look what it all. Really want to put that -- not wouldn't be paid our respects but the talent and it's the and yet Democrats are.

Hey want to let it -- created all the other democratic -- jumping ahead because I got a letter that I assure you that reasonable people can agree or disagree I myself -- I'm not a candidate for operas but if I had to vote -- I would definitely adrenaline and -- absolutely. But I'd be comedy hypocrite I might hesitate if somebody said let's put some oil rigs off the coast of Massachusetts right on the continental shelf now -- maybe that's a hypocrite or maybe that's a wise protection of the fishery.

Final restart. Every single time we want to build refineries can't do that I don't I don't I don't have dropped open I don't I don't know.

The refineries either that's why you shouldn't ID before you jump up and down on all the Democrats in the light -- that this is that this is something that splits Republicans and Democrats people have different views this stuff what the priority the emphasis should be it's a good -- let's go to -- Are going to -- what Mark college I can't Barry pulse caller from handover to Barry Feingold and Tom Finneran.

I had married -- we're about I'd charge it I regret it I guess. I haven't had an opportunity haven't gotten it that cop as they're at the economy is an outlet there are wracked country separate occasions. I'm the most disturbing -- that is -- about fighting but the Iraqis that he would probably the ball. They act one that came into the opportunity op antley and and possibly. About whether or not we want our sorry dissects people like. Instead you'll go back and in Kansas and irony -- Iraq age. Well the democratic when Egypt about one man one bottle but over here in Massachusetts now they go back. How can justify that.

Well this is where -- have ever have a disagreement -- an honest disagreement I just don't believe you know that this belonged on the ballot. And that's the way I voted in the US I was right.

In India and Paula now Paul do you and I probably have it sounds the way you described it I was opposed to the notion of same sex marriage by judicial decree a Fiat a decision. And I do think it should have gone to devote his. E and ought to their elected representatives. But this one was fully debated and the members of the house and senate -- on -- constitutional convention no no president Massachusetts has a gripe with not knowing. How the estate representative us senate -- felt on the issue -- have the body of evidence it's not as if they docked to the vote they voted not to put it to the next level I was disappointed in the outcome but you know Barry and the others who were on the other side position from may. Spoke -- and and they won they won the debate they won going away on -- governor Dave Barry would you be addressed at a -- a couple of -- minutes we'll round -- the -- let's take a very very short -- as we -- a couple of -- permanent representative -- Feingold and Tom -- with us -- WR -- welcome back -- the -- representative -- Feingold has -- good enough to stay with -- a little -- For babies safe haven law -- good work on that when -- congratulations. Let's see if we can get a couple another -- to Marius column from hum Iraq to stop by my -- Barry I'm going to give you that kind of a cooks to a lot of Iraq is the same by -- Mary era they would Barry Feingold and Tom Finneran.

Yet how many -- And on a -- all of -- Euro making it very. -- they act Arab -- ot it Tibet and it. And Eric automobile locked out aren't getting a mile or or try things about Albert.

I was very surprised -- as you know congressman Markey was pushing very hard and that this that this was not included and it is it's not a a huge increase they were talking about. And it is very surprising. And selecting multi you he's made him car manufacturers are going to need leveled anyway so I just don't understand that I think that's what a treat people with Washington. Is when we all want to push for better fuel mileage the the auto industry. And that doesn't get I think that's what frustrates a lot of people but Washington.

Mary -- let me play let me play a little devil's advocate it and it. The quickest and most efficient way to get fuel mileage is to just reduce the weight of all the automobiles you reduce the weight to fiberglass instead of steel and the like all those things Barry that you and I look at as parents you know the the -- the crumbles own in the -- to protect the force of a collision. All that has to be given up in order just you know take to get sent to squeeze out some more mileage so isn't era classic trade off between operator in passenger safety and an an and and mileage standards.

Well from what I understand there's there's there's ways of of keeping state scene and at the same time increasing fuel mileage is stoppages that the will do that bother you right there could be caught -- but I think that something that he. The American public is linked to bear mean you know hybrid it. Air flight off the dealer Lockheed another little more expensive than I do think people one they have more fuel efficiency and I think they want to you know is something about the war but I think more importantly that. In my PA a short term plot. The -- the long term -- obviously you're paying you know close to three dollars at the pump for gap.

I -- in fact everyone in my -- is looking -- she's going through -- very -- in terms of the upfront -- but the question -- really you know very environmentally sensitive -- to -- proud of the young generation -- old folks like -- older folks like -- have -- all right thank -- Barry and -- still in good -- I'm not -- because -- hip replacement -- I'm doing -- on the -- the stuff -- talk about my physical yesterday -- all the pushing and -- and probing -- really -- talk radio on -- Gary you've been great to stay with us congratulations on babies safe haven law. And we'll be back in touch with -- all the candidates -- the era in the contest to succeed the one on on anybody -- All right Barry anytime six point 72666860 will be back with your calls and bought in a moment Donny and succeeding WR KO