Kevin Gannon, NY detective, talks about the serial killer in Boston.

Wow you. It's W. York Gil good morning five Oregon he brought to you by network capital funding corporation. Our future. So Michelle has been working on this fascinating. I'd have to tell you once again a lot of people -- asking is former US attorney frank. MacNamara who was filed a complaint with the Massachusetts board of bar overseers. To chase down the truth. On Elizabeth Warren in her failure to be a member of the state bar she's practiced on the state for about twenty years never joined the bar. And they've been covering it up but the board of bar -- so hopefully the fact that he sent a letter asking for an investigation. Will trigger some truth here we'll see what happens. I'm so Michelle you've been chase in the story down on these on these deaths that might be murders -- very intriguing. Started as a casual conversation between you and I last week wing Jonathan -- body was found under the do you yes. I said the change our daughter's life just it's -- He had chains on his leg was tied to a cinder block. There is some speculation that that was a suicide there was a note found my sources tell me. But nonetheless these deaths at these inexplicable. Disappearances. Of drunk college students that gang. You know with their fish out of the water days later raised an eyebrow and I mentioned casually it's very -- are trying to suggest is a serial killer but I will say that is there's certainly a -- When you look at the facts. When you look at the fact that people leave the bar and end up in the water dead it's a little line. It may be if that happened -- -- would say that -- been drunken slipped on -- or something you know that if the facts supported an accident but how do you have. This many people fall fall and has a relatively short period of time where the MO love of the situation. Appears to be the same. And then. Do you pick up the story from there. So we do we got a couple of text messages usually looking into the smiley face killer theory. So I immediately look at up in what do I find is that is two very well respected vaunted former NYPD homicide investigators. Who've worked with us and forensic experts. To develop this theory that has been dubbed the smiley face killer theory. So I need Healy called all my -- old friends and law enforcement in New York. I tracked down one of the detectives Kevin Gannon. And we are very grateful that Kevin could join us right here on Feinberg in McPhee good morning good morning Kevin. The war or how -- -- so so it at first right side in everybody thought I was not there is some sort of connection between all of these deaths. But I'm not so crazy six to tell us the very first case they guard you and your partner Anthony Duarte interest in this. Well I was and -- likely be the sergeant missing persons. Police headquarters. Was assigned to case -- little for the university who went missing coming out of form and wound up about fifty days later. You know drowned but -- -- Miles away. Because of the fact it was. -- this stuff closely typical residential street seaport and that has always been. I checked the water currents. Yeah like Lee Harvey and stuff and there's no body you wound up all the I mean I don't suspension inning we try to that we could. I was -- about. What what you believe -- -- is that it was. You know what homicide and but I did an excellent losses. We were fortunate they'll put him -- my captions. But he only. That was ruled -- homicide there actually isn't my catches. What is that system are talking about. But yeah well -- Why it happened from LA who there's a don't the FBI list of violent criminal apprehension program so it is my attitude is all kinds of -- -- -- themselves. So the fact it was in -- -- in this bill. Latin elements that you know the people and that it would never look at these cases suspicious because they had to suspicious. They should stand pat this kid's name is -- you know case pop up mrs. Clinton is kind of the opposite case suspicious -- similar mind. Initiative in the region in the corporate interest Italy called excel. What palatial well lately and it in what urgent but the bulk. So why did you start to notice a pattern. -- because now that pattern has -- in LA it's earned the moniker the smiley face murderers. Well probably split in 2000 to a sore. An article about what you can Wisconsin Minnesota that would listen for kids with them. I figured that it all of the track. Task force for helped. You know different universities and says that -- that just you know. That destroyed usual -- I tried. What are the similarities in these missing students when -- pulled out of the water on with our former NYPD detective Kevin Gannon. About the the so called smiley face murders. Well when you when you started out this patent is something forensic lead that sort of tipped you off. It was just like it is the same height same way you know -- of them. All Hialeah high academic. -- and they at least at all all the different you know varsity teams from. Of course I'm from. Fighting on whether it of course came about -- the US -- team football team. Salad that that was one that -- similar but and sometimes similarity some stage -- -- -- part. Since then obviously the -- similarities of any difference Barnes what was subsequently it has been a lot of engineers who missed and so we look at the transit. Yeah contagious engine it taking courses should be considered -- and all this specific locations and even though. We concede that obviously not a big -- Chicago for us penalties they. You know metropolitan cities. Stay patient would be certain locations and certain universe and specifically or. You know like in Michigan which you normally around Michigan State or should all the important university and then wind it was. And so the debate body a lot of cases in California so when you have. I didn't warn you of the Pacific Ocean and nobody you know going one coming out of war and afford to buy what they're all specific body toward all out specific questions. Now how many cases do you believe there are now. Well. -- what -- larger cases you know it was many years all the treatment patriots on the territory five to -- yet for the fourth chasers. We're that database that we. Just put together but that -- news they were connected it will it will religion the first indication as well as first true. Which cases were actual crimes or an accident or homicide and so on our site that would not be related to the to a lot of investigation. And then deadly as you do that saying you can. Try to find out if you know -- to -- and what -- should just try to wait what was. Smyth into that trap and we don't do that we've always. On the opposite way -- -- typical obviously for them. Proved -- -- -- in case. I -- Kevin excuse me a -- -- again and is a former detective with the new -- new York city police department when you. When when somebody is found in the water will we understand is that. There is a predisposition. Towards missing that there might have been a homicide is that true in your experience. While the FBI actually designates. That every suspicious death is deemed homicide. From the start you're back with except for -- Erekat and. -- actually exit predictable it was actually professor -- who wrote that by 2000. Which is -- you know and -- honestly case and investigate usually considers it. Homicide what was the -- -- says. We -- in the house probably in countries from them. From New York who just what Drew Peterson case that cap -- -- on the slight change from you know. Which -- drowning without trouble also he's he proved that it wasn't I wasn't part. In ninety people that everybody on the assumption that it's actually. -- probably. Odd that a wife and most people would that would be considered -- -- suspect it would consider. Luckily there was because. If you look at it and you missiles present evidence that might be too critical if you go treated homicide fires and violated it was well she did everything in this city and possible presence that you could -- -- security. How is so becomes very easy dismissed. A drunk college kid -- fish out of the water is having fallen men. But there and brings up the question how did this whole theory how to beat even the names smiley face -- come to -- -- A -- -- started months and then. Well socialite except for -- you know like and the other major cancer surgery and then I came back you later and I went off line and actually on my it was like about 3048 -- cost -- And just not quite a methodical and that is what this in the world. But it -- serve on important social occasion last year as a budget and most of them were predominately on that -- -- So that's what people call it the I 94 killer blah -- and then. Otherwise we thought we don't normally something we got -- to change its I think that might be related to notification and -- so. We started you know volatile season in check and we've found. -- assembled at the time and obviously wanted to what's the most generic level you know the field out. What Islamic tradition announcement that stations were as. Well here's a question that everybody is waiting -- dancer Kevin gay and former NYPD homicide investigator missing persons squad investigator. Are there victims in Boston do you believe they're victims of Boston. The -- -- I don't know because I haven't seen any of the cases obviously there's what he does have a a few cases. It also -- suspicious I -- You know first say my deepest sympathy. To the John Daly -- and I have no idea. Whether he's connected already notation that conducted in Washington. But if you ask you know suspicious yeah obviously you lost -- their suspension that. And a lot of the similarity Tuesday I you worked with a prominent. Professor and came up with a map of some of the Boston cases that I could not be connected. I know that day Garcia's family. Hired a private investigator and -- puts -- and did indeed. Find a smiley face according to my sources at the scene of Garcia's. Being -- Franco Garcia was last seen him -- hands on February 22 -- while he was recovered. On April 11 in that Chestnut Hill Reza bought that had been searched by state police numerous numerous times helicopter is sonar. Detection was used. Divers went in all turnover but then suddenly he was found four days after the search began. The big question is was a smiley face really part of the Garcia. How is it a crime scene was that put there by. Whoever put him in the wider war is it's I'm not who has heard their -- is killer at the -- decided to play -- smiley face at the scene. That's what remains unclear. Well that so you know that's sort of possibility you know. You know. Got that question I really can't answer that that they don't mounts in this suspicious was the fact that the access that area that opportunity but instead. What is there and they shelled out we had. Similarity a lot of different occasions including property that we if you like -- -- execute is missing one plate reception area and nothing there and then. Two days later it's awful ones. And instincts but it was. A surge by the parties -- before sitting like right out. You know step one I'm building. And the family and it was sort of it's sometimes you don't. It wasn't there so the idea was it somebody watching machines other than any evidence back and then on the analysts and see evidence of and the trail that it is. Like -- -- -- 180 degrees fifty degrees executed these opposite direction and you attended. Elections that the most adults responsible actually residents' property is obviously in the opposite direction that was. You know I was you know consistency that we had such allocations. How big cases that you have looked at by talking to Kevin. -- and he is. One of the creators of this smiley face murder theory that there is a network -- is that how you would describe it -- is it is a -- network or is it a gang -- what. Who are these people that are committing these scraps. When that what bella is good and you know -- -- network organization -- shelves. Almost like. You look at eloquently commitment to terrorism and these guys. Situated different city you know we we we've been -- to collect information we believe they obviously are talking to regional and locations. What make of what -- gates. Especially in a lot of regards -- -- Let all the cases quite concerned you know obviously it costs under the best you can. Case -- it was a it was he can't -- as she was kind of -- Just snapped up off the street it's awful it's you know spoken street right where news. Department talking to his -- and it was. -- early just so we can remind everyone was last seen at a Bruins game on October 8 2009. Has gotten exposed to pick them up. He was on the phone with there's amateur on the corner when she got there his cellphone smash on the ground he was dying and his body was fish out of the water. On October 14 2000. There was. But the thing about a particular message to the other day it was. If you want to look at similarities of their animals in old. You know what went -- -- the beauty school. Will be look at it you know coming of those. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- That's agreeing on -- -- go ahead. And does it well but -- -- think they're about that was. You know that could -- could be and maybe it would close by that's where the water column with -- but the similarity between police Willis probably. And unfortunately Jonathan Bailey was all three of those kids. Are young men want from actually North Carolina Charlotte, North Carolina so the connection. And obviously Willis and probably will vote on the day he had just moved up a few months ago. So the question is will quit with the connection -- Willis is probably going from may be what it is John Daly has bought. It dipped of course for the North Carolina where -- -- -- -- far as we have three other. To a the other victims that we believe connected -- olives and I have an area where. He's got sixtieth street between Boston and what we have from Austin and read it where you know Charlie it's on the insane. Where they -- you know what far as living -- now is that he and go to the same relate. Certainly our theory essentially is that these. They don't his dance into the night these people picked up by this network and then later put into the body of water in some way. Why isn't this being picked up by a medical examiner. You know that's enough that's an old story. But let's -- -- has of these we've actually take some fairly good drug tests on on a roll and and. -- -- -- -- -- Except for the specific you know drug which is featured in. But look at all what -- know that which is. He decided it really great constitute actual on the normal talk normal pop up later. It nine test bed using heroin cocaine now on level lot peacekeeping. And you don't get the the specific what -- -- something. Citigroup to twelve from the side of the fourteenth but still even as much as 1415 don't get these alleged U. -- test and obviously the river of course factor. While we're at thank you Kevin -- for sharing your expertise we're gonna continue to cover the story in the next couple days -- gonna find it. On our website on my website John -- dot com. And how we gonna continue to try to garner some information on -- very interesting theory this smiley face murder is. Former detective Kevin Gannon thank you to spend so much time on us. Oh thanks so much show got a good look at them and -- -- sort of fairly. Hopefully they'll come to some kind of conclusion without which really got into this so. Thanks Kevin stay with us -- -- again -- 680 WRKO. Keep up with the latest in the race at wrko.com. -- revolution 2012. On. Am sixty WR Takeo. -- win attitude.