Do grades matter? No, it's about self esteem

Mondale had a great weekend five -- then -- -- 68 TW -- RKO. This time theories are very happy except me so I'm gonna defer. Do you guys who love the cold weather coming -- Ford -- Feinberg noted we tried to vote it's really cool breeze coming through his French doors is irritated there's a happy thing for you guys it makes you happy. So I'm sharing your joy. I'm not empathize. A links to share the joy till -- somebody walks bias is nice but I'm bearish. That's just -- C I guess that's his country OK so. Children succeed with what what's the most important thing is it is it the self esteem that they get in school. When. Somebody tells a good job -- when they do and a bad job is that we're self esteem comes from. A -- early in the United States this is the new trend that saw the steam comes from. Everybody gets a trophy and we can't use red pen to mark papers because that would be violent. Saudi violence in you know test scores don't build character time. Constant stream. Of accolades. That's what builds character in public schools these days. That has been in the the sort of PC perception of how to make kids happier and feel better about themselves to give them faint praise false praise. Phony praise praise for a job not done it all forget about done. Well there's a new book out how children succeed great curiosity. And they hidden power of character and makes the argument that I think some will find. To be a revelation like they've never heard of before but for us is always been the most obvious thing. And that is that the character is what it's all about and where does character come from. It doesn't come from all that phony praise. It comes from real experiences. Here's what the author of the book says -- thing about this Paul tough this is name ironically. For some people. The path to college is so we easy. That they can get themselves into adult life and they've never really been challenged before. They get into their twenties and thirties and they feel lost they feel like they never have those character building. Experiences as adolescence is kids that really make a difference. When they get into adulthood so what are those experiences in your mind Michelle that makes somebody. Feel accomplished enough when they get to adulthood that they feel old prepared to handle and good about themselves. I have long argued that recess was the real test of character building that's when he don't always get. Picked Burress that's when you get pushed around a little bit he might be bullied. And that's we've really builds character because you learn how to overcome obstacles and you learn how to defend yourself and you learn how to beat somebody. Who can face adversity had not instilled march -- So the argument would be that when you deny kids the struggle when you're trying to be so protective to them. Are so protective of them that you don't allow anything ever happened to them then they don't ever feel I can handle anything because they've never experience any real life. I can't completely concur that I mean now they can't he Justina. You've seen it with teenagers now they don't get grades anymore and some of these public schools you get charming. Footer rich you know getting asks are aids he diskette. Acceptable. War tremendous it's ridiculous it's like is like Wilbur the pig getting accolades from Charlotte and Charlotte's web everything is magnificent. I think that that's a great or it. So one of the symptoms of this would be -- to get depressed horror. Feel disorienting you know there's a lot of kids living home now because of the economy. But this law only make it worse right if the kid who never have any challenges and then he's -- at home. When he's 25 or thirty still have his mother do his laundry. When exactly does real life experience start kicking and. But the rest of real life experience and some of these schools because kids -- coddled and apparently just as bad I mean these helicopter moms that are everywhere and then little Johnny is perfect and they've never made a mistake I -- look at the reaction we got when those. Little terrorists those -- words. On that -- In upstate New York when many. I mean it that was beyond bullying that was. I would argue threats harassment and assault with those kids did to that bus monitor up in New Hampshire this woman who is who -- -- sixties. She's in her sixties say I knew it was horrify key to me the creeps the -- is if you played it right now I would be chilled to the ball. However every one of the parents of those kids came on said. Punished enough. That add any normal person and human being. -- be chilled to the ball and at what those kids did did a poor old lady. But every one of the parents defended everyone and pick the kids in you know the punishment was from the school your retirement in this case the bus monitor. They couldn't take the bus for a year what he guilt they should have all been locked up -- thrown out of school at least. But they couldn't take about Israel only hear what an inconvenience. So I think god this is something that everybody knows instinctively it's a complicated. Kids need struggle all human being -- struggle if you don't fall down Heidi a better way you don't. Yeah how do you improve if you're not feeling some times. That way you're attempting to do and whether it's us skiing or playing basketball horror horror. Whatever effort your putting in is if you're actually gonna improve your putting yourself out there far enough -- can fall down and get hurt. That's life. That is life. And -- -- not discipline the something that is absolutely atrocious. That how he possibly get you move forward in life without continuing. To commit atrocious acts against it fellow human beings I mean I guess I did think this constant coddling. As having a real dramatic. Negative effect on the way. Kids are growing up now so Paul tough is his name great last name for got to write a book how children succeed great curiosity and they hidden power character. He says you build character you gain character through. Dealing with real life struggle and it seems like everything. That's getting pushed and our children today. Is about how to make sure they don't ever encounter. Any realized struggle what's your take on this story -- 61726668. Succeeds is ring true to you. And what do we do about it it I get the impression. That what's driving this is the fact that. Parents are becoming parents until late in their thirties may be forty years old. They have may be one kid they have maybe two kids and that makes them feel much more protective. And paranoid about the well being of their offspring. But why I mean these people in that -- did you think that they would have while life skills they have all that come more challenges themselves. Why did they wanna protect their children from the very attributes that made them successful adults. Because they're not seen the cause -- they just know they gets icy or my grandchildren and there are four and seven and everything they're doing and I'm I'm nervous about. Because. You know I guess if I were 25 most people had kids. A generation ago and before that when they were 182022. They were young they were had a lot of kids they have time be worried about everything was gonna with the kids they'd say get out of here leave me alone I'll come back until the street liked about yeah it was a different time in the -- and the siblings took care each other. Absolutely and neighbors to care of each other and there was a sense of community all that is not. And then you send these kids to school there aren't getting -- they're not getting disciplined I mean it's a free for all they have absolutely no life skills and all of cannot. 6172666868. You can taxes is while -- 68680. Mark you're on with -- again McPhee WRKO hi mark. Morning I tell people what about it -- okay. I actually in the only one out of expressed that inject up to that -- the -- right now are not out of -- I want to make sure -- the situation -- -- Sorry how are how old are you mark. 3033. And how old do you wanna wait till you have kids. -- -- -- and -- so you have friends with kids do you see them do in any of these behaviors. And bringing their kids -- Burt -- -- remains school yet so they don't really have to deal I mean yeah they they are seeing him get black or white says. They don't know that he you know knows -- -- -- As far as I'm concerned but mark my point is. Well it the situation is talk about a -- quiet -- situation look no further and start at quarterback you're patriots. Drew Bledsoe as the coach's -- that the bomb plot or all through high school. And then he was told -- was a side -- -- polished automatic start doesn't allow guests to the NFL was a first round -- You know what the starter. And then once you actually had to fight to get his job back he did not in the -- and they wanna get traded out of -- he couldn't. He couldn't handle the competition from -- So they look it's our Brady Tom Brady wasn't a starter all through high school all in all let people get into what. You wouldn't although Brady watching our news and yet despite scrap. What -- -- all they -- not why do you think that it. While well I think it's because -- a great quarterback and Bledsoe wasn't. We're aware mobile -- banana I what I -- -- and what he said it's our own cell I disagree with the whole story was so that act like a baby when the sun and jobless taken from -- which according to mark sort of assessment of being told -- -- is through his entire life is what he probably should have -- instead he sent back and tell the younger Tom Brady Brady briefly and he he dedicated himself to the team. So that Tom Brady couldn't make himself better but it and Drew Bledsoe is a hall of Famer may not be a first ballot hall of Famer but he's a hall of Famer but he's well -- -- -- -- complete just try other things aren't totally irrelevant to our conversation and I can't help myself. Bledsoe took a ton of punishment he allows people who offensive line. And he got abused her then won the one time to let me get to get off topic the one Tommy had a -- decent line and a good team they went to the Super Bowl. So anyway but your larger point is totally true it's just not an example we agree with 6172666860. Hi frank you're an RKO. I don't want that what you thought looked on the radio this morning and like I -- -- halfway into the subject. I sure got our start you were talking about Obama. Do you see that a prime example of what happens and how you end up Ali better -- -- -- -- four years blame everybody else. And now it is up in my -- for the job -- -- and -- we can complete. You mean yeah that's -- apple want that it. -- -- a good thing that's that's how people treated you read it completely incomplete he gave himself pretty complete -- predict. Out of -- -- -- they push you beyond any -- that you thought you could do. And after that you have no fear of any bank coming -- you. And you know you can go further than you can think you can go. Because you really had no experience. Of grinding out that your limits are really not there. So it's I'm reading this book by the the navy seal you talk about the military experience yes and what they go through physically. Is in training is mind boggling. It is mind boggling to -- is sixty minutes interview last night. Well I -- I didn't see ya know I've got a map by the analysts on the way home was a good it was scared it was really good. 6172666860. Were talking about the whole hobbling going on our culture and isn't a bad thing for kids. To not have tough standards and to not experience lots of failure to find Bergen a C 680 -- He's got to find a new sound. I'm very Armstrong had -- 9/11. Right here on AMCC DW RKO.