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We have Steve Bennett from Steve Bennett -- down -- Connecticut that was the reference that all the made -- all the from -- owns the doctor of gays that's right Steve Bennett this is Tom Finneran and Wendy Murphy on 9680 AM I can WI KO up in Boston thanks for joining -- eight and arrogant and great. Steve -- gentleman by the name of all the from Hamilton I know -- if that sounds like some kind of Hollywood script all the from Hamilton as a kind of an odd thing but I thought were great guy he he made -- very relevant point to us about listening audience on this gay marriage congress we have -- the is that you run a ministry in Connecticut that has had some it has made a difference apparently -- people who were living gay lifestyle but. For whatever reason chose to access your ministry and it had different outcome could you just.
Absolutely it's had not come on me I'll tell you had two days ago. My wife and I celebrated our 14 year wedding anniversary. And we have two beautiful little children and the fact is that I lived in Massachusetts that was the tax paying residents from provincetown Massachusetts who lived I was a homosexual -- Close to 11 years had well over a hundred partners nothing I'm proud of by any means but -- had a major change happen in my life back in the early 90s and let me tell you something that the woman of my dreams today wonderful family to Medicaid could take up.
bird and cash your not -- Steve what -- what was the change in the Euro 90 --
For me it was coming into coming into a relationship in my faith of personal walk with Jesus Christ. Just understanding what the Bible says about this issue. And then just really examining that might like but that wasn't the only thing -- I think that's why I it was they had this epiphany or such -- just nothing like. I I was sitting on the bed with my boyfriend one -- literally contemplating our lives and I remember him sit in their crying out looking at his name -- his name on the back of that a little scientists know I'm never going to have any kids. And I started thinking about that and I are thinking about my life in all the years everything that I went through. And and it really go to an eye opening moment for me and I started thinking to myself you know what I don't want to be lonely for the rest of my life that it is my story not -- mr. everybody. But from -- moment on a woman had showed up one daily the Bible shared crisis with me told me that Steve there's a way out and you know it took me two years to try to get with the program they'll tell -- 14 years later you know people are still trying to tell me you're --
I don't know Ryan -- you know I'm glad to hear that you're happy that's a wonderful personal story but I'm I'm kind of
I'm very intrigued by the idea that you actually minister to people in a way that six's gain nests in other people.
Well apparently put it this -- doesn't it I can't help individual what do you dig -- tell you do is supposed to know. I'm -- Annan says what do you do -- a lot of individuals out there -- and -- when he went individuals they're believe that in not who. Are not happy being gay considered gentleman comedy about a week and a half ago a lot of people unhappy being heterosexual took it that well.
Well I'd -- hey whatever floats your boat but the fact of the matter is is that we administered to individuals their family members and friends who are looking to change and listened diversity is a two way street and people need to realize this but let's focus -- hone in on what's going on Massachusetts. For years I'd been out Massachusetts publicly speaking. And all people wanted to what the people wanted a chance to vote on this issue. And it is turning into such a political nightmare it turned into a pandora's box I have gay and lesbian friends I love them very dearly they know my position I know their position and.
He held do you tell them that you think they're sick and someone -- not cook everything coming out there right. Where can I cut -- progress that -- you who are wonderful human being but what you can't -- I want to know when.
Look for your hands get an outright so let's pretend that either went becomes Don says I'm Wendy the lesbian -- say I'm -- a gay -- We're not really comfortable with would want you to address what going to let that.
Occupant a -- he's not comfortable -- you being pressured by society being pressured by your workplace by family church. Or is this something deep down inside -- you and let's give a perfect example here. Rosie O'Donnell said nationally and Primetime Live probably about 56 years ago if you ever had the choice of being gay he would not BJ I don't believe homosexuality is situation I don't believe -- person is born that way I believe -- develop.
She's just saying it's a hard lifestyle a lot of games aren't really that.
It is very very key point. Almost every single out Hollywood lesbian -- Wendy has been molested in their life
that's not true and that's a similar incident Melissa president -- Rosie O'Donnell -- Ellen degenerate check and Nash all had publicly come out. That they had been molested I would never molested a gift giving it little and I've ever been -- you know I.
Most gay people if you force them to answer that question which is a private question we'll tell you it has nothing to do with being molested to destroy -- wedeman went to but the Steve's point when he points out that for very high profile. Hollywood lesbians say I'll have that common thread. You have to acknowledge I don't know how you can dispute of -- zero words I was not a resident critic causal connection and his knowledge and not so let Steve finish that thought.
And let me see if there is finding out when that we new crop they went who has been calls and find out this I want to change. I want to know why do you want to change if it because something deep down inside he wants to change or are you being forced to change it I'll be right up front with yet. It's not it's not an easy thing to do but I'll tell you there are thousands of people like myself out there who've done it.
I don't dispute that you would have to agree there are an awful lot of very happy gay people who don't want a chain and dance and they were -- and that way and that is the essence of how they are as humans.
Absolutely but the point what we're talking about here is not about whether a person is happier we're talking about the whole idea of the institution of marriage. Massachusetts says deliberately. Played a political -- and denied that people the right to vote for years while that we've been asking for is to let the people's voice. Be heard on this matter get these big big leagues in Massachusetts who think they know better than everyone else have pulled the plug on medicine again and now -- it till 2012 into the come up again.
They a lot of time and it's going to be almost --
As far as I'm concerned -- I mean this disrespectfully bound to be bolder you guys and open up -- pandora not you personally but you open up a pandora's box in Massachusetts. You guys it's literally like Myers in Massachusetts people on the rest of the country Buick that -- There are so many things going on there because of this issue marriage is very clearly has always been always will be between a man. And a woman you can call it what every else you want I played out for many many years belt -- get. I've got the real thing like the old -- based on ain't nothing like the real thing baby I'm so.
Glad Steve I'm glad you -- good and we we do have a crazy -- here we -- sex offenders we don't care nearly enough about when I innocent citizens know what this is a crazy state with a bad reputation height of talks over the country I Samper Massachusetts people hiss. When it comes to questions about its doors right -- to make -- and -- getting -- get a -- it is embarrassing sometimes -- from Massachusetts I don't think this -- the key -- that makes -- state. But I give a lot of credit Steve for standing up for your life in your life changing your decisions but you have to be careful not to impose your personal experience and I don't go after people out.
Steve I gotta ask you a question I want to make sure before we go to other calls and I appreciate you taken the time to call in and be with us know I'm might go to -- I guess it was but thank you anyway to be an -- I'm not sure whether what you what you opposition is on whether people are born gay it's an immutable unavoidable situation all weather over a period time. It either develops it's a matter of should gradual choice what she -- sense of the immune ability up.
Well -- very clearly I was a homosexual and I was able to change it 20 years old and I I about three I was able to change I don't believe homosexuality is Chile's -- amassed a personal question arguing heterosexual woman -- mother's side okay you did not seem to be attracted toward men and marry your husband happen naturally for you did -- yeah sure okay. So -- God's natural plan or whatever you want to say I used to call god. And god -- kicked and natural nature kicked in and it happen naturally -- it. Sometimes through different circumstances that a child's life. Someone gets bumped down inside -- they would have never chosen it that erupted them throughout their childhood it continues to happen. When puberty kicked and next thing you know you're not -- like I'm not looking at at least look at tommies so.
I don't really UBU can't generalize you said it's sometimes and I really respect affect you use the -- sometimes for some people because it's danced mean like you were not homosexual -- a heterosexual in some kind of crazy life cycle that was to.
I learned a lot of -- US where everything you know hundred meant Wendy you're not letting you know you -- six I don't quite a heterosexual man engaging in sex with a hundred. Many -- this year.
Everybody they've -- a question what do you worry us boy coming through puberty and adolescence is a junior high school would have when you were in school for example where you'd cirrus and were you checking out the girls are -- checking out the guys.
You know I I was feeling alienated from the men because I grew up in theory different family environment where my father wasn't there it was really more -- my mother so I would I Munich very early could detect this very early on. And I don't want to know more about us just go to FB ministries dot org you -- read my whole story. Our positions what we believe the -- We need to respect love and appreciate our people our people. Are made in the image of god no one deserves to be treated disrespectfully and that again is -- two way street and again there are people out there who are looking for help meaning that they are not happy with their life. That you're not happy it's me a call let me hear your story will you we could just.
You'd appreciate very much with a target of Steve Bennett of Steve Bennett ministries on this gay questioned and the -- ability of that his experience his ability to convert hats change mines in the like. And I hate first of all happy anniversary second while happy father's day Steve theory. Thanks for joining us what we come back Thom and I by Joe and I I think it's my fault Jessica in my field John as the quality of calls we're going to get the ball Tom Finneran Wendy grippy -- but I am 6 AD WR KO. Boston soft spawned blossoms talks should -- actually east of you -- trio

