Dinesh D’Souza talks about Obama's America

Or waiting for. Dinesh D'Souza finish up you know when these authors go out on tour he's the author Obama's America. I'm making the American dream so one of book just launched. What they do is say they put the others in a room. And they just they book a ton of radio stations usually ten minute blocks or something like that and then they just pound through the mall. So we get -- -- out in about 45 seconds we'll see how accurate they are they're usually pretty strict. And -- and -- Susan has written. They a book claiming. That the decline. Of America is the intent. All of the Obama presidency that's his goal. He wants to saddle us with debt he wants to make us weaker he wants to basically dismantle America as the world's superpower. And we'll find out will get a dollar more vivid picture of that from Dinesh D'Souza and also an explanation for why that would be because I think. You -- for people who voted for Obama -- -- there are still supportive of him. The odd inquiry -- -- would be the natural response that or are shrug of the -- a single why in the world would he want that. He's the president of the country why would he want -- for us. When he has at all. He's the president the United States she's running AOL's powerful nation in the history of the world wide. Would it. He wanna see bad things happen to America why would he want us to consume less why would he want our standard of living to decline. Why would he want a steadily diminished footprint. In the world let's ask Dinesh D'Souza Dinesh welcome to WRKO thanks for being here. April brighter so -- -- -- you know right on the Friday you don't have to open its already stunning on making the American dream is that. This is sub title of Obama's America why would Barack Obama's -- to unmake the American during. Well Obama said in his inauguration speech he called on Americans to help them to quote the remake America you spoke about the remaking of America and in order to remake something you have to -- what they are ready and if we look at Obama -- what -- he's been doing he has been shrinking America's influence in the world. One by one our allies in the Middle East are falling into the hands of the radical Muslims. He's been flashing on nuclear arsenal. And according to the Federal Reserve Americans today up 40%. For our men they weren't 2007 we've seen a massive erosion of American wealth. But an Obama supporter would say the erosion of American wealth has to do with state. And economic tragedy that preceded his presidency. And that events in the Middle East have conspired. To in ways that he had no control over. Well the bit I think that's factually partly right in other words let's look at the Middle East for example Obama didn't cause the Arab Spring. Com by the way and it happened. Obama as the actions and it was very telling. Obama basically supported the Egyptian military -- pushing out Mubarak -- ally in the region and once the military came to power Obama switched on them and started supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in pushing -- the military the Obama administration has been warning the Egyptian military you -- better turn over power to the Muslim Brotherhood -- the united -- will cut off military -- so -- Obama didn't cause the Arab Spring he had been a remarkable -- in -- way inconceivable for a Bill Clinton or Kerry or Al -- He's accelerating the transition of power. -- the radical Muslims. Why do you think he wants us weaker why would you want the radical Muslims in charge in the Middle East. Well for Obama I think it will it is America that has been the bad guy so it when he talked about for example nuclear bombs Obama thinks. Hey look you kind of got -- nuclear bomb that try to go to lineup maybe five but who cares who has the most bonds in the Middle -- well Israel has a bunch of them and we America we have the biggest nuclear arsenal and -- the only country that has dropped nuclear bombs -- actually. So what has Obama been doing you've been making sort of almost symbolic gesture -- to pressure Iran. But what he's really been actively doing it's slashing America's nuclear arsenal so he had a 5000 warheads when he -- man at the start treaty takes us down to 15100 warheads. He's got the Pentagon that they got down to 300. Nuclear weapons so what we're seeing is a massive erosion of American nuclear superiority. And are you saying that this is part of a conscious deliberate plan to with an end goal of making America weaker or. Is it circumstantial that because his philosophy is this extreme liberal on. That says America has been a -- on the world stage and we have to find a way to make the world fairer. Is the repercussion of that a weaker America. Yeah Obama is deliberately trying to shrink American power now he's not doing it because he's he hates America he's doing it because you think it would be good for America to be a a smaller player on the world stage so far Obama it would be good for America not to be number one -- that would make us. Are ruthless and selfish and imperialistic and greedy he would rather the FB number 34 and number 68. In the world and again you see in if you went to Bill Clinton and authenticate Bill Clinton don't you think America should stay number one -- he would say absolutely. So. So why aren't traditional Democrat we know what -- why does say is there's some thing that's some macro thing that we can understand about why. Other extreme lefties. Can still -- an extreme lefties but not pursue these same sorts of lefty policies that Obama's pursuant. The key to this really is that the left by and large once they're redistribute. Wealth in America and you become more far left to the degree that you want to redistribute more. What makes Obama different is that he wants to realize in America in the world. So when Obama talks about the 1% to 99%. He's not just talking about in America. And that's very significant because remember that even middle class Americans well even more Americans are rich. By world standards yes but it's a primeval fed me well dog doesn't Obama realize that -- quality of diverting the middle class. But from Obama point of view even the middle class could well be Avaya global standard. It's really a a stunning thing to think about that. Did that you can so calmly and logically offered this analysis it's a kind of thing I yet you know I got out under the world and people say how can you say those things about the president. And I so I don't know I just I just look at what's going on and it seems obvious to me. So I -- Obama would like it like having a coach of the lakers was deliberately cause -- calling plays for the lakers to lose that he's doing it again not gonna -- hate the lakers he just think it's bad for the lakers to keep winning the war and a remarkable situation of having a president. Lot of the ideas about shrinking America how widespread you can find them in South America and Africa and Asia but never before have they been espoused by the man who is being chosen to leave it at -- Decades and America's interest out -- what's confusing I would like the lakers to win fewer games but -- what they would not a paradigm we debated high Univision donate so that's what's confusing about this whole thing the other thing that's confusing is safer if were to accept your premise. It requires. Something a little further and more insidious and that is that the president pass to understand that if we are not number one of we're number 34 number sixteen. Then somebody else's number one and how could Norway who's going to be number one that we're gonna feel like where it the world is better off. Yes see if we lived in the F 15100 and looked around the world we would be many up power that's right we'd see China on the Arab Islamic world India. There was of course you are up there with South America the are they at stake in the Inca empires. So I think Obama is trying to accelerate the transition from a unique polar world with America on the top of the pedestal. -- a multi polar world -- which no single nation has the dominant position here's the point Obama cannot say this still America. So he -- got the camouflage his agenda. And sort of fool the American people he did it brilliantly in 2008 I mean look how different that Obama be Obama who said there's no red America there's no blue America. Had a world one America that Obama has just gone and I'm convinced that Obama was always a fiction. Well but then all the obamas are fiction. Right the only the real Obama emerges from the second term right because and the second term he's untethered to public opinion he doesn't have to be reelected. I think get the 2016. If we -- -- -- in America. Obama will get a great reward not from the American people who will despise them but he doesn't care the reward will come from his own conscience basically saying to him -- Obama you have single handedly taken this great power. From being the world's number line to being a world also ran the and it will be sort of a well done -- -- sort of true and faithful servant coming from his own content. Dinesh D'Souza is our guest his book is Obama's America I'm making the American dream how do you come to the conclusion. Regarding motive because you could look at other presidents you could look at LBJ for example let's say geez what a plot to destroy America you do the Vietnam thing screw all up. Yeah outlet but I think that book and it was very obvious that LBJ and that's a good example of a Democrat who is you know a big spender in domestic policy but was a tough guy and wanted America to be number one that's what -- you think of LBJ he got in the Vietnam to be you know to beat what he saw as the Communists. Now with Obama at this there are some conservatives who say you know he intended result acts but he keeps getting -- why he's such a bundle our and so on how what I think you know he's not getting -- Opposite to what he and then the rather he intends the result he's getting if you only assume that you put on a new pair of spectacles. Everything Obama's doing what makes cents. How do you get yourself. To the point where. You reach a conclusion with the confidence that you're reaching at that so many would call cynical. Well what I really do that come up with a theory if they not to become the scientific ideas generated the area and in 2010 I published a book the roots of Obama's -- offered a theory and I said look I don't know if it's right. But I'll offer a three predictions at the end of it and we'll see what happens and I made three predictions and they all have come to pass. And it's what I find is that Obama keeps saying things than doing things that confirm that theory. So for example the core idea of anti colonialism Obama philosophy is that wealth is not earned -- stole him. Like how wide open wide of people in Britain and America have -- higher standard of living -- people and that's -- and the -- -- old bomb not India. The reason they do is because of that the west occupied in the invaded and looted those countries that's the anti colonial our view. Now look at Obama he goes to a business guy that he says listen you all that -- you have got your you've created what he's saying he -- you stole it society created the wealth collectively you're just skimming off the top and Obama in Adventist creating a license for the government to -- take it away and the government of the confiscating. Your wealth. From Obama what have you it's not yours in the first place -- how -- you came to my house and stole all my furniture well what's the proper tax rate for youth what I should be 100% because it's not your furniture. So in your mind me do the American people here understand their sons and if you need to go let me know I don't know if I tell you too long. Got a reply okay hey did you the American people understand this on an instinctive level and that gets expressed in. Concerns over his religion or. Are his country of origin and things like that. Now that's a very interesting point because I I think that there the whole -- thing which is I think mistaken but nevertheless the reason it has the currency it does. Is there is a sort of feeling that there is something foreign in Obama's ideology. As similarly Obama seemed that we are at least sympathetic to Muslim Jihad these black apprehended and foreign wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'd be able to where he must be a Muslim and I'd say no he's not a Muslim. But he thinks of those guys are anti colonial freedom fighters like Mandela like Gandhi like his own dad fighting to push out -- we get occupiers. Several months ago in the heat of the primary campaign. You were you -- your theories were being. Ascribed to Newt Gingrich. In the in statements he was -- about the president how did you feel about the way that was represented. And the repercussions of that the controversy that erupted. Well the thing is the you know Newt said they're incredibly Smart guy and I think he saw right away that there was a power to this theory about Obama and explanatory. Power. That it could account for things that no other theory could account for Obama flashing you know there in the space agency NASA he moves the Winston Churchill bust out of the White House now. Startled bipartisan hero Clinton would never think you're doing something like that so bad though the power of the anti colonial period that is because it can explain facts. But no other theory can explain -- and what I do in the new book Obama's America is I look forward and I say all right. What can we expect in taxes in debt all of America's nuclear position lookalike or -- our position in the Middle East look like. It's sort of Obama gets a second term and the real Obama can finally come out. Dinesh D'Souza gray Chevy here the new book is Obama's America. On making the American. Dream much appreciate it thank you. And we will wanna take a quick break and then talk about what to Nash has to say I think that -- his theory it. Finds they wonder why explanation. It to bomb. In units into the confusion the people feel about Barack Obama. I've never felt that there's anything racist. About people wondering about his religion. Or wondering about his belief system or wondering about where he was -- That he has created these confusions himself and Dinesh D'Souza is saying he wants. America. To be weaker he wants -- diminished. America because he thinks the world would be better if we -- number one. And therefore we would be better if it was about a war.