Grover Norquist talks Paul Ryan

Speaking of fixing problems one of the great activists and our country doing that. Is our next guest Grover nor Christy joins us regularly and for that we're appreciative he is from Americans for Tax Reform good morning you Grover. Morning good to do it. So while Paul Ryan is kind of an exciting didn't pick in that all of a sudden we have an issues based election that's how it looks to me. Are you sharing that perspective. I absolutely look we have a real challenge because Obama ran on hope and change. Without writing anything down when he got in there were 3000 pages so the regulations on health care you're not allowed to keep your health care because if you happen. All sorts of healthcare and Internet access to regulate it changes. -- They came in on slogans and then. -- thousand page. Stimulus packages -- 800 billion dollars. Two different Chicago. You didn't get what soccer at least you electric and you're offered a promise something you got to radically different. -- the Ryan plan on the budget. -- -- -- -- -- It takes -- though the one trick shot out of the question here interest welfare reform. Where they said okay we're gonna take into -- to her children are welfare program. Block grant that the state circuit stadium X amount of money that's which had last year about which you get now on but. No war or very few federal regulations. You make the decisions. Couple people got off well Perry got a lot of Wes Welker country. They saved a lot of learning. People are able to focus on people who actually really needed. Ryan says why don't we do that Medicaid and -- food stamps and -- yeah about -- leash -- 700. Different. Welfare -- go to programs like it -- let's. Do what we did for welfare way to acknowledge all of how many means our program. CBO says -- -- shut them. Other -- count more than a hundred I and interest they don't quite know but at least 77 yet. The federal government doesn't know how many programs it has to give people -- No process you know quite how many laws that our federal government the chewy -- it's I was told 2003 years it's now at least 4000. -- when your -- -- ignorance a lot no excuses but how good Arabic I didn't know how they live an advocate land somebody and you know government commits a fifty dollar fine from the side or the other the -- and the basic content your presents. Say the federal government is not sure about this thanks. And then the other part of what he does this is tax reform like Reagan did in 86. I'd taken the top rate to 25%. From businesses and individuals which by the way. Old remakes are competitive with the average country in Europe European average. Tax and -- this point 5% we're thirty. And -- wonder why we can't do well in international competition as -- lecture. We have higher Marshal actually from the average in Europe. Not not in the lowest taxed at your average. This -- just -- just aren't that averaged. And that of course reforming Medicare that go bankrupt the only thing that Obama did that Medicare restriction look at a billion dollars. Out of that to fund obamacare. But this structural reform it and the way that the Democrats and Republicans who greeted the shirts and so -- I guess actually and I didn't go Democrats. Republican vote came up with during the Clinton years -- Ryan's proposal still is they bring spending from. -- 4% of GDP down to 20% of men and began to pay off the national debt by restricting spending. While. The economy and gross. And Darren turned to surround them -- we're heading north slope and click here and in -- reform entitlements. We're in real trouble to rise up. -- Grover do or do orange proposals that they seem remarkably timid Timmy. In that it takes thirty years or so to balance the budget. But -- it it it felt that the budget in out years if you assume that taking. Reducing larger actually it's true 25%. Have no effect on economic growth and of course and budget scored by -- BL. Which also wish gorge cultural capital gains tax losing money. And all the things that Reagan Thomas actually the opposite happened. So that -- the thirty year projection is based on. A new no positive growth from fixing the tax code so it's lesser prospect. No I didn't grow from fiction -- outlook program and killed -- -- You know the mount -- level -- -- and and bankrupt pensions so that we're not -- they'll pay for. It's got its fixed port forwarding it -- how well things are going. In which consolation. Bishop -- couldn't do any more crazy stuff on our government gonna employee pensions. And pay. You don't have to cut the budget this week it -- the world understand that you really decided. To stop going creature of the election and -- Twenty years so it is a lot of extra for a don't slam the brakes on guard -- sixteen to zero wouldn't it blocked. But it sure or the real. And incident -- just as it -- process over Troy Obama okay. You can't run on OP change you pushed. Write something down -- -- -- write something. Yes it exposes his utter lack of leadership go on all these critical issues so he'll admit that we have do something about that about the budget. He won't do anything about it we're talking with a Grover Norquist he is the guy out there campaigning for. A lower taxes for us that's a good thing Americans for Tax Reform but -- how the politics of this are you hearing. This would rumbling of -- scare Republicans is that really what's going on or is that a liberal media. Creation. It's a liberal media creation and -- well that's after its plagiarized -- Let the liberal media and the Democrats are doing is plagiarizing. What what Democrats -- the liberal media -- in 1980 when Reagan got nominated. They get -- back and took all their quote oh boy now under Republican in trouble now that they've. Nominated a guy who is committed to the Kemp -- tax cuts to want to spend less money. Now we're gonna win big that was the Democrats got what they're saying -- same -- -- But more than that. Or more recently. Brian put forward a slender form entitlements and they go oh now there are targets. Well every year chance Medicare and Medicaid are created every -- and Social Security created. The Democrats -- run election saying Republicans are going to -- undercut such programs -- July but they changed from. When you write down your proposal actually were for Social Security as bush did in 2002004. That would go to the only true -- -- Democrats couldn't demagogue Social Security why couldn't stand imagining some old need. Budget cut they had true criticized the real reform that the bush pushed. Engineers saying they were undermined because they didn't have an alternative of their own so if you're not willing to go on the record. Then you can't criticize a specific proposal. Yes and here's here's what. Ryan that's usually -- -- 55. Not really strange little factual -- you organize your life around certain. -- government promised just -- Yeah but why don't they say that every time they open their mouths Grover Norquist is here Mike you're on W -- -- we're -- quick call for -- -- -- over. I'm Mike. A lot for your Padilla might want to vote yet but they effect a track trade our business -- united state nowhere near 35%. Many didn't they cost and you're attack. After their achievement accountant and so forth secure thing. Secondly the idea that. Getting what climate why its private insurers. Up compete over ensuring the most expensive population United States people sixty or not a track which can which insurers. Thirdly where you put people's money enterprise that. Investment. Just tell me what happens when you have something that happened 2007 to detonate the stock market building just a few percent of its value. What happened that morning like well what do people do without point. And it usually -- I'm -- as well well. I wanna hang on Michael so let's -- right there because that's a lot of questions let's get a response. Pick one out -- Sure. Look much LaRoche put forward doesn't effect anyone who makes -- over 65. And younger people Medicare cannot be there for them as it's presently structured it has to be looked -- You -- reforms actually very similar -- to try to regardless guys. A lot and and and bush private sector. People people are able to do with defined contribution. Pension programs you can look forward troops -- that you retirement accounts you know the idea that it is the current collapse this. That private investment doesn't work that the government just unchecked economy collapses the government doesn't have any money. And when the economy just poorly the funding for government programs -- dries up but they still. You know -- the world -- welcome. There are those totally totally inaccurate she would have been just wiped out just just a couple of -- -- -- -- We don't have speculated happen right now all people star Owen. However the government did it it it government -- -- what whether you like it or not and I don't like it anyway what do you do in principle by the way under sanction the government. Can't leverage the government cheat and still treasury -- the government it and by the way speak English so I compost and year old curse French by the way right now. People are buying triggered -- that you're 1%. Individual people -- Specially. Are nice so is he making the point to the government can combined provide a buffer let's let a -- responded that. Well when you're talking about pensions their cities in the country to have gone bankrupt -- it cannot pay their pension plans cities and states can't print money. Mission federal government can control let -- try to currency -- everybody in the country that you can't let that get under Carter. And we're in danger of going to have -- now we continue along with this stand. Policy that caller first -- thank. That I mentioned a -- -- actual form on this or shall I say just 35%. Average martial art trades in Europe is 25%. He -- -- Democrat Charlie student saying well the average isn't the -- the average how -- DiMarco factoring into the -- structure like the action on. Because they had some deductions. Actually take the UK people -- -- conducting an arch. Income that -- Europeans it's the marginal tax rates that matters -- extra dollar that you earned. If you're an American firm which 35%. If you -- European firm it's 25%. And that's an extra dollar to side hire another person in the next Ali you earned. An American firm mr. it's actually very 5% as European permits. Taxed at 25%. You can be injured eighteen percentage OK next door where talk about weird smoking countries and some that can't pronounce the Canadians are 17%. And that did the did training how the lower marginal actually and we get we cannot compete. Handicapping ourselves to -- Marginal tax rates and larger country chart if you earn an additional dollar how much of the to government come and grab out of your hand. 35%. People can prove railroad crossing a liberal and averaged -- two -- I can't -- and in a very uninteresting number. Grover Americans for tax your former jurors -- how to people find it online. Our web try to HER dot org and if you go to HER dot org. Slash card. You can get the new card that we're providing everybody the protection from having to pay any of Obama's -- increases. It has a left front Obama's promised September 12 2008. No Delhi making lesson trying to 50000 dollars a year we'll see any form of traction increased. You're Jewish showed little credit card shaped cars and your doctor or hospital would you go to restore. All alleged that the twenty Obama tracks -- to be put in pro Obama can just tell little wave them show the good -- it to wait quite a present a liar here getting my money back. That's awesome -- great idea grower and our Chris thank you sir always good to -- -- You guys are coming up Steve Sara -- -- talk about. Mobile payment networks is a new thing you pay when your cell phone. This is 680 WRKO. You can.