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Defending 'Melissa's bill'

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Mon, 6 Aug 2012|

Les Gosule, whose daughter's murder was the impetus behind 'Melissa's bill', defneds the law against what he sees as unwarranted attacks.

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Wow you. Being against precisely how popular but I know they go a lot of fiscal conservative -- I just think there's some sense that needs to be part of this. People in the state of Massachusetts who have been -- -- cheerleading around less gospel. Even though you know this and you're pretending that the -- you -- now going to go away because -- Well but people do get shocked when they hear about somebody so that guy actually knew this guy. That was a voice of less -- before me. I'm sorry that the voice of Chris -- before made these are reporter with the Boston Phoenix and he's talking about his disdain. For this law Melissa's bill which will become law in the state of Massachusetts. And it will be a sort of attempt plate that forces. Judges in certain cases. To offer. Certain kinds of us sentences make sure those sentences are served. Rather than having people getting out of prison for heinous crimes after a couple -- less costs also father. Of a woman murdered thirteen years ago he's been fighting for this lot of be passed and it was passed just last week. By the Massachusetts legislature joining us now is less costs on WRKO good morning to you -- According to -- -- I'm very good say US has some stuff you -- to respond to the -- heard Chris Francais correct. Actually -- Surely you are forced to bursting into this bill or some bullets and build a colossal. -- it should build -- -- -- Chain that you can actually seriously hurt or over. Apple. Right so so somebody who served three years imprison at least a -- on a couple of occasions. Third time around what does it say about that person. -- -- -- -- -- This serious or so let's check out correcting a great -- already attempted murderer all the most serious describes. So what we're still -- that basically says sincerity and do I don't think sentence. Are -- -- established Massachusetts. That means or early parole and that should not subject to the judge's discretion or do so. So -- people are double what. General election should only -- Massachusetts. Or percent -- -- share stories we we don't sit point 8% of the -- And somebody says mission to. But it -- it. To -- -- the second time. An -- it would have yet her. To learn to be rehabilitated. In to check in and care of other people -- -- -- There's to assist IE people. Don't care about somebody -- Job in terms of government. -- -- machine -- sixty and that's so well. -- you know we're good at worst natural to go to second ass on the web -- you're ready. Actually no current. -- Well I don't and I I think in the case of Michael gentility who -- you heard me say that I knew on Cape Cod. -- did some work for me and you know I spent some time -- -- -- -- -- little bit he was a guy gonna drugs. And I don't know that when a guy gets into drugs that there's any. Hope that there are any guarantee that he won't slip back into it and start doing stupid things again. How do you protect people adequately. If sympathy and empathy trumps everything else. Well some. It frustrates me. Bishop estate assistant special passes OK. Or commitment to or child rape. That Russia Austro instead they -- -- a bit to -- as -- rate but the zone which recaps some. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I don't think number -- a bill passed the house -- -- -- -- so but mature. So -- Realized. Or responsibility for government just public's safety and you're welcome record -- oh yeah. All we're all get an all. Out there we're gonna. Along with LA via various ships. Some. People do it today. So is saying and he or. She lost Iowa right -- legitimate chance. To say I'm a bad news. So about it. In that so so there it is -- -- realize that. -- -- Pitching is so awesome quote geez I don't know that and so -- It's added -- on the site I want to masters also on site. A lot of spirit. A lot of spurs had done right people would I -- that it's -- to this -- actually double the disappear. -- Put -- this recess and oh I know the only catch up all for a I'd say so far right up -- But we are saying that we sure don't slope -- -- and start crime what is she teaching we're just re all old or. They don't. Learning if -- of course. To show us in this country got a lot of issues social issue why -- picture to be bad. I don't have audience of there's not a social issues. Our -- -- justice has to rule. The cast one to three times Euro deal ball game should be out subjecting people's lives. And -- such as well start. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- By term. You -- actually able to certain. -- -- -- Less told -- -- that we just wanna play this is less -- or talking to he's a guy who's. Push this Melissa's bill to become law here in the state of Massachusetts because Melissa was his daughter. Raped and murdered thirteen or so years ago. And it's a direct to response. To the fact that the killer was somebody who had. Had a couple strikes before and should have been out on the streets by all reasonable standards let's listen to Chris for own. Who was on the -- with me Friday he is a reporter with the Boston -- So there's a sentiment that with Soviet facing their third strike. That they're going to blast their way out of that situation. Okay so there's been a lot of talk about accountability. And who would be to blame if -- the governor did not sign that you know what the legislature did not sign that. There's not been a lot of talk about who's going to be held accountable when you know our police officer or and -- bystander. Is it shot by somebody who refused to go back to a prison. And so for a life sentence. He didn't he say is saying that one of the dangers. Of the automatic requirement. Is that you will incentivize people to go down in a fight rather than risk arrest what do you think about that last. You know so. Era I don't adequately upbeat as you know most nation -- our bureau there are some light sentences. In this bill borrowers and it's -- score runs her term limits in twelve years. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And you lose your debt. He soaked up there and that's what he has. Open I don't really really believe. It you know or. So I. Why are -- we recess rate from violent felons to -- -- -- -- of that audit dissent wrote that she was raped this step that. In. Person. This person it was simply. Export -- rights -- Obligation that first. Less why did it take so long. To get the legislature on your side on this. Well. There's a question. -- -- -- -- I think it's just a lottery. And so were probably so probably not very and all that good reason to set the bill. Is. It dissected. A million. Analyzed. Some complaints. -- assembly communities is that the -- is a rush to judgment that starts this bill that. They'll took place in 1999. So cheap if you look at that they'll. In 99. It's winners today is altogether. So. What is. Due diligence I have a lot of people. You know it DH did you sense that the -- apartment. Everybody -- program justice but. Yet. Everybody -- which are so. I think what I do for us. -- -- -- Waters up. Let's -- it was so. So it. I would say this I I think durable are there are so people the state house. Give or receive this really Castro lot of reasons and it just -- awhile to get to the right people. Which is true but. There is very singular. Push back against this against a tough on crime is there are. One movement there you know for example lawyers simply. Wanting to have more flexibility when there in court for their defendants there's a lot of lawyers up in the state house. Well -- or the -- there are a lot suggest that this. And I think you're being diners some lawyers our secure remote lawyers. You have swipes at repeat resistor rate than you are my hero should be. So -- -- I do believe that there are a bit. Architectural registry. I think it was. I do there was some liberals who feel to judge issues that -- discretion that they don't. And yeah I noticed that really true you get real as -- Which associate is associated sort of -- that eight but. Real business is there is -- it's extremely wrong person. At the judge -- down associate. Judges who -- through April. Who. A lot of people would repeat. Sentences to get to go free Hewitt and so. Excuse me last we have a bunch of people on a -- you'll Jackson calls. Less docile -- hear from Melissa's bill Anthony RW RKO. I entered the true. Did bell is kinda why they found that the actual. There right now let me -- got mad at whatever the senate bid there's no brawl on accepted that got an automatic -- -- -- duke spirit Bellamy. What makes this -- it spirits are. Good -- said that he he wanted to out. What is distract me accountable. So there's so well positioned a light what would say it is yet so so -- sentence and that's why it -- they'll at least I urged the. So it -- this bill is actually saying that the whatever sentence the judge comes up with is -- this bill is not forcing him into a certain sentence. It's saying that the guy can't be released. In -- he served a certain portion of that sentence. Well it's got extra assistance. -- by but the same rate was twelve years. Killed the right but I'm not sure what the island since the cattle -- -- This -- it was well. It is certain that all twelve years lower role in -- -- -- -- The light is not -- jail Russians attempted murder. But this it's not like jail in case without parole -- -- guideline sentence which is why this bill is not a -- strikes still. And it's this that and that would make people -- straight to elect tech history strikes and you're. In jail. Automatically. So so -- the judicial discretion isn't taken out here the judge will know that whatever sentence he's given. Will have to be served in in in its entire birdies so he'll have to be on the record. With his decision about what kind of sentence is appropriate -- ER RKO less fossil hi Paul. First off I'd like to applaud you less bird. Put you back. So this indignant. The pressure on that was necessary to get a true. Don't personally I would've liked to see an actual three strikes swallowed belt in California. And have these guys when they give us -- -- Wafer and never ever ever ever ever even in the sunlight again but. On the other thing I wanted to point out is that the fact that Chris came out so strongly against it it's almost the best endorsement that you could have had it -- I mean it's almost like cap and Obama come out against something. You know it's like -- peaceful people against it you know it can't be bad so it. Are you look like you it's not like that much. Calling into question I just -- -- yeah. Point thank you for doing a Paulus can responding -- Go ahead last. Oh. A sort of well straight -- it is these that -- yet. They want to say well. -- present in person or some sort of invisible story my parents -- I would tell me about the WB never existed -- And actually getting. Some very chilly out because -- the -- is going to do something. Shall crush some actual -- and that there's maybe get a real lights that are being hurt and be -- by. It by. Keep all the and and at Baylor don't work all they hurt freak out some outrage Alice that the color you know this is not racist video. Our. Senate post that -- people. Accurate record there by -- Suspicious of whites are hurt by -- That says -- -- but it does yeah. What is so that you love child Angela white girl -- that you want it -- Russia and let should be protected and it doesn't. We are what you are we want to take -- -- -- -- -- and appoint just this wish -- luck. The people here well what we should take criminal don't. Who knew who is out there risking their lives Karen your NWR -- less docile. Hi Karen. I I -- one big question. Indy and what -- doing a great job I'd could you have him on there. My question is why did these politicians. Arnold saw. In that state is. What we're eating. As opposed to what's happening out street crime. Why why you -- when we had been battered schools or too much sugar or too much so that. More important that the crime that it just all the taking this country. Good questions the last thing you can. -- pinky a yeah assists so -- stay ghostly. Bewildered that your we Gary. And process it is built. That was not enough time but so -- you're processor -- at the time. Name has issued this statement rescuers Serbia they fish was that we don't name it go on the year that -- air. And we -- sometimes -- have up barriers so little -- actually. -- so why they do the right charity as a a good point. I think sometimes we. ITunes. Don't I guess we lost lasts. And then -- are you good morning to you. I just by -- Well let's listen -- now gonna congratulate him on his efforts so I had called in the -- -- that that report it all from the Phoenix. And you can reply to your point I mean I don't know want about -- Saudi Arabia's. Draconian measures actually work as far as track it's as though. But what politicians are really good at is make things seem good -- that actually make an important whether it's at the state of the national level. Whether it's a military security level of the local security level that outside of -- at present that it just got stabbed in the neck. I department have been less is back what you wanna say to him. Left congratulations on a rapid and I was just saying that the politicians really. The -- getting looked good reason that they didn't really wanna support this is they don't want to actually concert Hispanic people cook with that -- -- -- yet. -- that they can't. That they had old concert all these people the system has already bursting at the scene and what just a sense. Like sure I'll Iowa they are in Arizona destruct the law out. Oh really get serious about the death penalty inside eliminating some of the people we cap the seat and all -- they don't they can't incarcerate him and it's not a guitar. So I really applaud your effort. Oh wait a -- -- it sounds like you're saying that we we shouldn't be putting people away for mandatory periods of time. Not saying we should but what I'm saying the reason that we're talking about why is an obvious that the politicians back in the year because on read history and the lights. What I understood that the shooting at a local police -- The irony is that guy in the Phoenix and it's all we can do that it might be a shoot out the so shooting of police sought to the kind of brought this bill back -- -- -- it's you know run -- a credible agent of Brady's gonna shoot to kill -- -- outside because of trading fire back five or -- of that that the just. You know continue to persist -- Irwin and all called the politicians accountable if you got to build more presently have to put at a warehouse collapsed the other. I don't you're saying they don't want to face up to that I don't wanna I wanna protect you want that's what they do best and thanks to the Cologne we just lossless again sorry -- We're gonna run to or breaks thanks for tuning -- and stay tuned all day -- 680 WRK. And driven friction. But talk of the day is always right here on Boston's talk station AMC TVW.